Comments on: Dear Jane: Time to Look Forward, Not Backward in Anger and Retribution http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:38:09 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: ekunin http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1885051 ekunin Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:55:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1885051 <p>Hope may not be a strategy but it is necessary if we are to think in terms of alternatives. Do you have any strategies? I have a few which I’ve obliquely suggested but got no takers.</p> Hope may not be a strategy but it is necessary if we are to think in terms of alternatives. Do you have any strategies? I have a few which I’ve obliquely suggested but got no takers.

]]> By: DeadLast http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884959 DeadLast Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:11:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884959 <p>Just think of all those areospace jobs that will be lost if we are not trying to blow up the <strike>caged rats</strike> world. Jane has to watch out for her constituents: Boeing/McDonnell/Douglas/Lockheed/Military. I mean, lets be serious: our congress people believe that they have to do whatever they must to bring as many dollars as possible to their district, regardless of how any funds are actually distributed. Jane needed Bush and Cheney as much as they needed her.</p> <p>I wonder who will actually come to her defense. I bet Karl Rove is chuckling right now.</p> Just think of all those areospace jobs that will be lost if we are not trying to blow up the caged rats world. Jane has to watch out for her constituents: Boeing/McDonnell/Douglas/Lockheed/Military. I mean, lets be serious: our congress people believe that they have to do whatever they must to bring as many dollars as possible to their district, regardless of how any funds are actually distributed. Jane needed Bush and Cheney as much as they needed her.

I wonder who will actually come to her defense. I bet Karl Rove is chuckling right now.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884951 MarkH Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:58:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884951 <p>I guess you didn’t know she planned to retire and then changed her mind. Maybe after this she will change it again and retire for good.</p> I guess you didn’t know she planned to retire and then changed her mind. Maybe after this she will change it again and retire for good.

]]> By: MarkH http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884947 MarkH Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:52:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884947 <p>That numbers is surely unlisted. Just keep walking.</p> That numbers is surely unlisted. Just keep walking.

]]> By: Larue http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884815 Larue Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:31:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884815 <p>Now THIS is subversive information to be acted on . . . .</p> <p>The Repubs bein the subversive one’s.</p> <p>Blockin the com channels, once again. </p> <p>The one’s they don’t own, yet.</p> <p>Hence, look for any and all legislations to control the toobz.</p> <p><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=93966" rel="nofollow">Oh, You Know, Like, THIS Shit From Jay Rockefeller</a></p> <p>Just sayin . . . (spits)</p> Now THIS is subversive information to be acted on . . . .

The Repubs bein the subversive one’s.

Blockin the com channels, once again.

The one’s they don’t own, yet.

Hence, look for any and all legislations to control the toobz.

Oh, You Know, Like, THIS Shit From Jay Rockefeller

Just sayin . . . (spits)

]]> By: Larue http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884814 Larue Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:27:16 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884814 <p>Yep.</p> <p>When’s everyone gonna start focusing on the fact that the 1% own it all, that both houses of Congress ARE the 1% and are doing the 1%’s biddngs?</p> <p>A flush of this entrenched system would require an effort greater than Hercules diverting the river to flush the stables.</p> <p>It’s entrenched, they are all guilty, and they will all stand together as they always have. Obama, The Senate, The House, Obama’s admin, DOJ, DOD, all the Cabinets, etc. ad nauseum.</p> <p>Does anyone really see a way out of this short of some huge upheaval? Like, mama nature, or such?</p> <p>Do any of you folks really think Obama is the way out of this mess, and all that’s required is that we MAKE him do it? You think the system will LET him, or anyone else, or us, change it? </p> <p>I’m lookin for hope here . . . anyone? Bueller? </p> <p>Solid answers only please, is there a chance in hell of getting any changes to benefit the masses given what we’re dealing with?</p> Yep.

When’s everyone gonna start focusing on the fact that the 1% own it all, that both houses of Congress ARE the 1% and are doing the 1%’s biddngs?

A flush of this entrenched system would require an effort greater than Hercules diverting the river to flush the stables.

It’s entrenched, they are all guilty, and they will all stand together as they always have. Obama, The Senate, The House, Obama’s admin, DOJ, DOD, all the Cabinets, etc. ad nauseum.

Does anyone really see a way out of this short of some huge upheaval? Like, mama nature, or such?

Do any of you folks really think Obama is the way out of this mess, and all that’s required is that we MAKE him do it? You think the system will LET him, or anyone else, or us, change it?

I’m lookin for hope here . . . anyone? Bueller?

Solid answers only please, is there a chance in hell of getting any changes to benefit the masses given what we’re dealing with?

]]> By: pdaly http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884813 pdaly Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:18:29 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884813 <p>and no Habeas corpus either!</p> and no Habeas corpus either!

]]> By: Otay http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884812 Otay Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:02:57 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884812 <p>It’s really hard to think of these craven, spineless, unprincipled dolts as any better than the Republicans. Seriously, why do we Dems elect these POS’s as “representatives”?</p> It’s really hard to think of these craven, spineless, unprincipled dolts as any better than the Republicans. Seriously, why do we Dems elect these POS’s as “representatives”?

]]> By: pdaly http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884811 pdaly Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:01:32 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884811 <p>Silly Harman! Listen to her –wanting the government to treat her fair and square. Why can’t she just hang tight and trust the government? If it tells us Harman is guilty, then she’s guilty guilty guilty!</p> <p>No habeus. No judicial review. No chance to rebut secret proof of her guilt. Just trust the government, Jane!</p> <p>Over the last 8 years our Congress have taught us to trust the Unitary Executive. Only He knows how to protect we the little people. Isn’t it true the Bill of Rights was just a draft? a mere policy paper to be debated and rewritten without 2/3 majority vote? </p> <p>If it comes to it, I hope our new Dear Leader Obama thinks to steer her case out of the courts, steer it clear of any and all judicial review. Yes, we’re at war. We’re at War with an Evil Enemy, so we don’t have time for guilty people to spin their tales in court and waste our resources.</p> <p>Plus, what if Israel helped with the wiretaps? We don’t need a public airing of this fact in court. That is inappropriate, because it would reveal sensitive sources & methods and harm business and/or sensitive diplomatic relationships. State secrets, I say.</p> Silly Harman! Listen to her –wanting the government to treat her fair and square. Why can’t she just hang tight and trust the government? If it tells us Harman is guilty, then she’s guilty guilty guilty!

No habeus. No judicial review. No chance to rebut secret proof of her guilt. Just trust the government, Jane!

Over the last 8 years our Congress have taught us to trust the Unitary Executive. Only He knows how to protect we the little people. Isn’t it true the Bill of Rights was just a draft? a mere policy paper to be debated and rewritten without 2/3 majority vote?

If it comes to it, I hope our new Dear Leader Obama thinks to steer her case out of the courts, steer it clear of any and all judicial review. Yes, we’re at war. We’re at War with an Evil Enemy, so we don’t have time for guilty people to spin their tales in court and waste our resources.

Plus, what if Israel helped with the wiretaps? We don’t need a public airing of this fact in court. That is inappropriate, because it would reveal sensitive sources & methods and harm business and/or sensitive diplomatic relationships. State secrets, I say.

]]> By: Margot http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884804 Margot Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:28:23 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/21/dear-jane-time-to-look-forward-not-backward-in-anger-and-retribution/#comment-1884804 <p>Same here. Thanks, Jane!</p> Same here. Thanks, Jane!

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