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	<title>Comments on: Caroline Kennedy Can be My Ambassador Any Day</title>
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		<title>By: Minnesotachuck</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/10/caroline-kennedy-can-be-my-ambassador-any-day/#comment-1877471</link>
		<dc:creator>Minnesotachuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If she is nominated it will be interesting to see the Vatican response.  I’ll also be curious to read what is gleaned by &lt;a href=&quot;http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/1337848?eng=y&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Vaticanologists such as Sandro Magister.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she is nominated it will be interesting to see the Vatican response.  I’ll also be curious to read what is gleaned by <a href="http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/1337848?eng=y" rel="nofollow">Vaticanologists such as Sandro Magister.</a></p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 12:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t buy all the negative press about Caroline Kennedy. She was new to politics and was slow to defend herself, and never really went on the offensive. Lots of politicians are born on third base, but the fact that they did not hit a triple is rarely used again as strongly as it was with Caroline Kennedy. Look at “W”, look at all the other and second and third generation politicians all over America. Where’s the outrage?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Senate appointment is over. It went to the daughter of a powerful NY lobbyist, a longtime friend of another powerful NY lobbyist Al D’Amato. That’s not to say that her father (who by the way has done a lot of good over the years) was the only reason. Sen. Gillibrand also has a long professional relationship with Al D’Amato. She was even an intern in his office back when she was a Republican. Both Sen. Gillibrand’s father and D’Amato are big supporters of Gov. Patterson.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/nyregion/05damato.html?_r=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;“Mr. D’Amato surprised many TV viewers, especially liberal Democrats, when he appeared alongside Mr. Paterson two weeks ago as the governor announced his selection for United States senator, Kirsten E. Gillibrand. The 71-year-old Mr. D’Amato, for whom Ms. Gillibrand had interned, beamed like the father of the bride, positioning himself on the dais more prominently than sitting members of Congress, legislative leaders, and even the senator who had ousted him, Charles E. Schumer.”&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For what it’s worth, on Friday Rev. Federico Lombardithe (an official Vatican spokesman) said there was no truth to reports that the Vatican had rejected her as a candidate.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iv48aLtfxJowoUPxg_wBWF_cBpbgD97FMEGG0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Link&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t buy all the negative press about Caroline Kennedy. She was new to politics and was slow to defend herself, and never really went on the offensive. Lots of politicians are born on third base, but the fact that they did not hit a triple is rarely used again as strongly as it was with Caroline Kennedy. Look at “W”, look at all the other and second and third generation politicians all over America. Where’s the outrage?</p>
<p>The Senate appointment is over. It went to the daughter of a powerful NY lobbyist, a longtime friend of another powerful NY lobbyist Al D’Amato. That’s not to say that her father (who by the way has done a lot of good over the years) was the only reason. Sen. Gillibrand also has a long professional relationship with Al D’Amato. She was even an intern in his office back when she was a Republican. Both Sen. Gillibrand’s father and D’Amato are big supporters of Gov. Patterson.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/nyregion/05damato.html?_r=1" rel="nofollow">“Mr. D’Amato surprised many TV viewers, especially liberal Democrats, when he appeared alongside Mr. Paterson two weeks ago as the governor announced his selection for United States senator, Kirsten E. Gillibrand. The 71-year-old Mr. D’Amato, for whom Ms. Gillibrand had interned, beamed like the father of the bride, positioning himself on the dais more prominently than sitting members of Congress, legislative leaders, and even the senator who had ousted him, Charles E. Schumer.”</a></p>
<p>For what it’s worth, on Friday Rev. Federico Lombardithe (an official Vatican spokesman) said there was no truth to reports that the Vatican had rejected her as a candidate.<br /><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iv48aLtfxJowoUPxg_wBWF_cBpbgD97FMEGG0" rel="nofollow">Link</a></p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/10/caroline-kennedy-can-be-my-ambassador-any-day/#comment-1877405</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 05:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Traditionally, every host country has the right to accept or reject any nominee as ambassador to their country.  If the ambassador has been nominated in good faith, rejections are ordinarily rare.  For starters, they are, well, undiplomatic.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If the Vatican has already rejected three nominees because they don’t like the ambassador’s sex, pedigree or credentials, it raises the question of who is ambassador for whom.  The Vatican would be playing hardball, while losing popularity and support. It’s not a high-confidence move, but a desperate one.  The Vatican is seeing how hard it can push the new kid.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Someone like Ms. Kennedy would be a compromise.  On the one hand, the Vatican would prefer a more conservative man, who agrees with its views on the subordinate role of women and on abortion.  On the other hand, someone like Ms. Kennedy gives Obama the representation he wants - someone who is pro-choice and a moderate advocate for women’s rights, but someone who comes from the Catholic aristocracy in America.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mr. Obama should keep nominating people who represent the face of the America he sees, not the one the Vatican wants to see.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Traditionally, every host country has the right to accept or reject any nominee as ambassador to their country.  If the ambassador has been nominated in good faith, rejections are ordinarily rare.  For starters, they are, well, undiplomatic.  </p>
<p>If the Vatican has already rejected three nominees because they don’t like the ambassador’s sex, pedigree or credentials, it raises the question of who is ambassador for whom.  The Vatican would be playing hardball, while losing popularity and support. It’s not a high-confidence move, but a desperate one.  The Vatican is seeing how hard it can push the new kid.</p>
<p>Someone like Ms. Kennedy would be a compromise.  On the one hand, the Vatican would prefer a more conservative man, who agrees with its views on the subordinate role of women and on abortion.  On the other hand, someone like Ms. Kennedy gives Obama the representation he wants &#8211; someone who is pro-choice and a moderate advocate for women’s rights, but someone who comes from the Catholic aristocracy in America.  </p>
<p>Mr. Obama should keep nominating people who represent the face of the America he sees, not the one the Vatican wants to see.</p>
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		<title>By: gkerby</title>
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		<dc:creator>gkerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 05:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;Gee, last I saw, the Kennedys have been ambassadors, senators, presidents, congressmen, founded numerous social programs and organizations, including Head Start, VISTA, Job Corps, Community Action, Upward Bound, Foster Grandparents, Special Olympics, the National Center on Poverty Law, Legal Services, Indian and Migrant Opportunities and Neighborhood Health Services, and directed the Peace Corps. Others’ professional lives have spanned law and politics and dedication to educational and charitable work as well as co-authored books on civil liberties and Constitutional law.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh yeah, and two of them have been assassinated for their public service.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;… and a third was killed in action defending our freedom (for &lt;em&gt;real&lt;/em&gt;) during WWII.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Gee, last I saw, the Kennedys have been ambassadors, senators, presidents, congressmen, founded numerous social programs and organizations, including Head Start, VISTA, Job Corps, Community Action, Upward Bound, Foster Grandparents, Special Olympics, the National Center on Poverty Law, Legal Services, Indian and Migrant Opportunities and Neighborhood Health Services, and directed the Peace Corps. Others’ professional lives have spanned law and politics and dedication to educational and charitable work as well as co-authored books on civil liberties and Constitutional law.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and two of them have been assassinated for their public service.
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<p>… and a third was killed in action defending our freedom (for <em>real</em>) during WWII.</p>
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		<title>By: Minnesotachuck</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/10/caroline-kennedy-can-be-my-ambassador-any-day/#comment-1877373</link>
		<dc:creator>Minnesotachuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 04:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/4/8/111039/4392&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rob Boston at the anti-theocracy site Talk2Action&lt;/a&gt;, the Vatican has already rejected at least three candidates for the ambassadorship that the Obama administration has put forward because they don’t toe the church’s mandatory line on the issues:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The Washington Times reported yesterday that the Holy See has rejected at least three candidates put forth by President Barack Obama to be U.S. ambassador. The prospects were apparently blackballed because they hold pro-choice views on abortion.  .  .  The Times, citing an Italian journalist, reported, “Papal advisers told Mr. Obama’s aides privately that the candidates failed to meet the Vatican’s most basic qualification on the abortion issue.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  Under these circumstances I don’t think Caroline Kennedy or anyone else should be appointed to this post; it should be left vacant.  No foreign entity should be permitted to have a veto over the selection of diplomats based on their personal views on contentious domestic policy issues.  In fact this would be a good time to end the practice of formal relations with the Vatican, as other commenters have suggested above.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to <a href="http://www.talk2action.org/story/2009/4/8/111039/4392" rel="nofollow">Rob Boston at the anti-theocracy site Talk2Action</a>, the Vatican has already rejected at least three candidates for the ambassadorship that the Obama administration has put forward because they don’t toe the church’s mandatory line on the issues:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Washington Times reported yesterday that the Holy See has rejected at least three candidates put forth by President Barack Obama to be U.S. ambassador. The prospects were apparently blackballed because they hold pro-choice views on abortion.  .  .  The Times, citing an Italian journalist, reported, “Papal advisers told Mr. Obama’s aides privately that the candidates failed to meet the Vatican’s most basic qualification on the abortion issue.”</p></blockquote>
<p>  Under these circumstances I don’t think Caroline Kennedy or anyone else should be appointed to this post; it should be left vacant.  No foreign entity should be permitted to have a veto over the selection of diplomats based on their personal views on contentious domestic policy issues.  In fact this would be a good time to end the practice of formal relations with the Vatican, as other commenters have suggested above.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s not going to be D’Amato, and here’s why: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1) He enjoys being a lobbyist waaay too much&lt;br /&gt;
2) He got a divorce from his first wife but I don’t think he ever got the annulment he wanted from the Church.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s not going to be D’Amato, and here’s why: </p>
<p>1) He enjoys being a lobbyist waaay too much<br />
2) He got a divorce from his first wife but I don’t think he ever got the annulment he wanted from the Church.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think that appointing someone like her is Obama’s way of telling Ratzinger and the Opus Dei clique that they can now STFU about Notre Dame.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that appointing someone like her is Obama’s way of telling Ratzinger and the Opus Dei clique that they can now STFU about Notre Dame.</p>
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		<title>By: Apphouse50</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apphouse50</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What happened to that lunkhead Ray Flynn?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What happened to that lunkhead Ray Flynn?</p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>SomeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 03:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If she is not picked, they will just pick somebody that is no better and is more conservative. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/nyregion/05damato.html?_r=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02......html?_r=1&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she is not picked, they will just pick somebody that is no better and is more conservative. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/nyregion/05damato.html?_r=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02&#8230;&#8230;html?_r=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/10/caroline-kennedy-can-be-my-ambassador-any-day/#comment-1877325</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 02:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Isn’t he in favor of blowing the top floor off of every car he parks? Sort of a weird prejudice in favor of convertibles I guess.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn’t he in favor of blowing the top floor off of every car he parks? Sort of a weird prejudice in favor of convertibles I guess.</p>
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