Several years ago, in response to the formation of "Pajamas Media," I coined the phrase wingnut welfare. Though it became applied more broadly over time, I was trying to succinctly describe the transactional relationship between the conservative infrastructure and right wing bloggers, who were basically being paid regardless of merit to spread propaganda:
They are not there to make a profit. There is no "business model" involved. And every criticism they all laid at the feet of every East German factory worker after the toppling of the Berlin wall — they have no ability to work in a competitive environment, they know they will never be fired — comes into play. They’re fools, but they’re subsidized fools. They never have to worry about traffic, they never have to be even a little bit clever or creative or think or even spell right.
All they have to do is continue to repeat what they’re told.
Those who profited from this — "right wing robber barons trying to preserve their privilege of feeding at the taxpayer trough" — could easily afford this minimal expense because they made boatloads of money gaming the system. From bank deregulation to bankruptcy laws to no-bid defense department contracts, the profits were huge. A new study says that lobbyist money spent in 2004 for a single tax break earned a 22,000% return on investment. The money that trickled down into the right wing blogosphere was relatively insignificant. Over time it probably stunted its growth as the audience interested in listening to "George Bush, right or wrong" ultimately dwindled, but that isn’t something their GOP patrons cared about.
The tea baggers taking to the streets may seem remarkably incoherent to us, because their "fiscal responsibility" only kicked in after Barack Obama took the oath of office. I didn’t really understand it and dismissed it as pathological authoritarianism until I read a post by James Joyner about a month ago:
Jules Crittenden is shocked that lefty firebrands Jane Hamsher and Glenn Greenwald have continued ranting and raving about injustice now that their guy is in charge over at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
One possible explanation for this is that, rather than having simply been partisan hacks fomenting faux outrage at the Bush Administration, they’re intellectually honest ideologues who are genuinely motivated by principle and actually outraged when their government violates said principles.
During the Bush years, the right wing was playing a zero sum game, and they thought we were, too. Support "your guy" when he’s in the White House, oppose "their guy" when he’s not. To be sure, there are many in the Democratic camp willing to forgive things in the Obama Administration they excoriated George Bush for, though I’m not sure I’d call them the "left." Regardless, go over to Daily Kos right now — those aren’t the dominant voices on the liberal side of the blogosphere.
After I read that, the teabaggers made more sense. The thing they’re pissed about is that it’s not their turn to steal. They assume that extending voting rights or social services or health care or food stamps or immigration rights is not done out of a sense of principle, but because Democrats are simply trying to grow (or "pay off") their voter base. Where we see a single mother getting food stamps, they see Richard Mellon Scaife.
So, when Greg Sargent wrote yesterday about liberals bloggers upset because liberal interest groups weren’t factoring us in their advertising budgets or thinking about participating in financially sustainable models, right wing bloggers thought it was an acknowledgment that we were printing propaganda and wanted to be paid for it. Because that’s very much how they operate. (Though it should be noted that only the smaller blogs wrote about the piece — most of the biggies didn’t want to address the fact that they themselves are heavily subsidized through a variety of means.)
Let’s try this again. Liberal blogs operate in a capitalist system. Our success depends on traffic, and we aren’t paid to print White House talking points. We get paid for advertising. Eugene Volkh, whose career as an academic he acknowledges gives him limited experience in this realm, worries about a lack of "transparency." Here’s the transparency — you look and see the ads running on a particular site, just as you would the New York Times or the Wall Street Journal.
If you’re Christian Dior and you want your clothes in Vogue, you have an interest in making sure Vogue is there tomorrow and the next day, so you buy advertising. If the New York Times Book Review section is an important part of your plan to sell books, there is a symbiotic interest in making sure your products are on display there, it isn’t an attempt to purchase a positive review. So when the AARP announces a million dollar ad campaign to promote health care, and then sends us a press release assuming they’ll get free exposure on the blogs, what’s wrong with this picture?
I guess you’d have to understand how capitalism and the free market work to get it.



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Hell hath no fury as a progressive censored!
John Avaro$i$ over at AmeriKablog will censor your posts if you call them out for whining about not getting their share of Progressive fund raising money. You can swear if you want. You can bash gays if you want. Don’t dare question their patriotism for wanting their share of the money. Show me the money, that’s what it’s all about, isn’t it?
Peace?
Great post, Jane. You’re on your game this morning. The point about the rate of return to successful lobbying has got to be made more often and louder. People don’t understand that even a small revision in terms of the difference in net revenue it generates to the firm paying the lobbyist can translate into a huge sum when capitalized. That’s what drives the business, and that’s why the richest counties in the United States are the counties that ring Washington DC.
We tend to look at this as corruption, which it is. But it is business first of all and follows the business model: put your money in the place with the highest return. This is econ 101 (but not taught there). Anway, good morning from Paris, where the cherry and apple trees are bursting out. I’m off to a Vernissage in an hour opening a new exhibit at the Rodin Museum. Can’t wait. Love these soirees mondaines.
True, they really don’t understand capitalism. That takes education and experience and some small amount of reflection. The idea of equality of information and freedom is quite foreign to them. When they (wingnuts) accuse the left of global warming (voter rights, gun control, health care, pick an issue) as a power grab, that’s because it’s what they would do.
We are not like them.
Yep, totally agree. As to lefties and Obama, I’d like to make the following points:
1) We had an awesome choice this year, but it was still somewhat the lesser of two weevils…
2) I appreciate the amazing job done by the current administration in less than 100 days. I’m in awe at the energy and the determination to do what they see as the right thing and reverse most of the worst of the Bush Fiasco. The difference between the two main candidates was more than night and day; more like Pluto and Mercury.
3) There remain many ugly things from the Bush years that must be addressed and are either being missed or actively supported. We need to stop this.
4) I totally appreciate your attempts to hold their feet to the fire, and hope more folx will follow that example. Since the Republicans refuse to be the party of loyal opposition to help rebuild our country, I think it falls on our sholders.
Now, we see in stark relief the contrast between the Rethug Neocons (and their enablers) and the Progressives: To the Neocons, Politics is a game with winner-take-all and power as the prize, and they can’t see any other point of view. To Progressives, Politics is about governing to the best of your ability. Naturally, there are exceptions. However, I believe this is one explanation of the complete paranoid breakdown of the Right: Now that it’s OUR turn, we’re going to do to them what THEY tried to do to US.
I describe my own frustrations with the density of the wingnut ‘mind’, and it’s effect as relates to ‘debate’, as talking to bowling balls.
the media
was supposed to COMFORT THE AFFLICTED and AFFLICT the comfortable
of course the MULTI MILLONAIRES,AND AIRESSES,ofthe WHORE MEDIA,really enjoy comforting their own millionaire/billionaire class
while bashing the poor or afflicted Yea Lou Dobbs you cretin
Jane Austen is listening CARRY ON JANE…the other Jane approves
“One possible explanation for this is that, rather than having simply been partisan hacks fomenting faux outrage at the Bush Administration, they’re intellectually honest ideologues who are genuinely motivated by principle and actually outraged when their government violates said principles.”
Hoocoodanode?
The Blue Dogs are also going to discover this eventually, and it will scare them – a lot. People paying attention are not what the lame incumbents want to see. Or Harry Reid, for that matter.
Thanks, Jane.
Jane, thank you for your very clear expression of what is going on. And for having a place where the principles are equally clear and there is enforcement of what it takes to have a peaceable world while encouraging a broad range of input on issues.
The shit is piled high, there is so much work to do.
That’s the pitchfork’s day job.
great book
Malignant Narcissim
its always ALL ABOUT THEM
Jane, thanks for linking to buhdydharma’s diary at dKos. The Docudharma site has become something of a refugee site for those who have had their fill of the, at times, profligate “tiger beat” pro-Obama diaries at dK.
Bullseye Jane, as per usual.
These kooks confuse the LAWS of supply and demand with croneyism.
They’re fools, but they’re subsidized fools.
such fools = tools
Good Morning Jane,
your Wingnut Welfare post was a personal Rosetta Stone for all things wingnutty – unlocking so much – aiyeee !
I cannot count the times my comments of obama have been hidden by testy Obamabots who live at kos, and like frandor55 @11, I am also grateful for the link to buhdydharma’s diary.
i am also astounded by the ignaorant comments at Greg Sargeant’s article, and by the nonsens from commentor number 1 here at the lake:
Aravosis has every right to complain that he’s not getting his share of progressive ad dollars, and so does every other progressive blogger who puts in personal time, effort, and yes MONEY to publish a good blog. i WISH I had the ad revenue that would give me the ability to quit my day-job and cover city hall in Philly, or live-blog the Scooter Libby trial like FDL did.
Further, Aravosis has every right to censor his commentors: after all, it’s HIS blog. that’s why FDL (and daily kos and digby and numerous newspaper-based blogs) has moderators, who patrol comments to root out those that are abusive and unacceptable. tell you what, if i was aravosis, I’d delete comments from anyone who called me Aravo$i$ too.
looks like Holder’s sovereign immunity gambit was a bridge too far for so many of the tigerbeat crowd – thank dog.
of course it was some foul-mouthed femblogger who reminded us all during poo flinging season, that it should be about the progressive cause and not candidates – smart gal, wonder whatever happened to her :D
It is amazing how the conservative movement claims to champion capitalism, but fundamentally doesn’t understand it. Their whole view of capitalism comes from the captains of industry who all wish to create monopolies, using unfair trade practices and leveraging government to intervene to give them an advantage in the marketplace and escape liability. The messengers of this philosophy come from the wealthy elite in this nation (or at the very least the comfortable middle class), who think you start at the top and that “hard work” means getting others to raise your throne higher. Finally, the rank and file are the working class who don’t understand the goals, but are taken in by the populist messaging that comes out of twisting language.
Seconded.
Wow…watch out for that firebrand Glenn Greenwald…Yep, what an insane loudmouth..if that’s what you want to call a very thoughtful, smart, articulate scholar and commentator attorney. Someone better hand them a dictionary.
They assume that extending voting rights or social services or health care or food stamps or immigration rights is not done out of a sense of principle, but because Democrats are simply trying to grow (or “pay off”) their voter base.
So true. One example. i remember seeing somebody (Tom Delay? Haley Blubber?) on MTP many moons ago screaming that Clinton’s (attempt at) allowing openly gay people to serve in the military was just a “political payoff.” And I thought “Right. He’s gotta payoff those gays. I mean, without them he never would have won.” I hope, of course, that does not piss off gay people. Just saying, that in bottom line political terms it’s not really a constituency that warrants a “payoff.” Clinton did what he did – and other Democrtas continue to try to make things better for gays – because it’s right. Not to pay them off.
You know, you pulled this crap over at my blog this morning, but I didn’t get home to see it until late. So I’m going to re-post my response over here since it equally applies to Jane’s substantive and spot-on post.
We don’t get our share of the same funding that Aravosis is griping about either — and this blog doesn’t exactly run for free, given server and other costs as well as programming needs that we don’t get for free. The reason John is bitching is because he and we are constantly being asked to give shit away for free without a commensurate interest being paid in funding grassroots and online messaging outlets. A lack of long-term planning that is both short-sighted and stupid.
And progressive institutions ought to know that. So should readers of blogs.
You think I can feed my family or buy my child clothing or pay for my doctor’s appointments for free just because I devote my time away from my family to pushing for liberal causes? Nope. Strangely doctors and grocery stores and other vendors don’t give a crap how lovely my motives might be when my wallet is empty.
The thought that progressive bloggers who have been carrying a lot of the load for messaging on issues that matter can keep going when the ads are thin like they are now in this down economy just on grins and prayers is ludicrous.
Why is it that the right wing seems to understand the need for infrastructure, but people on the left think anyone who is doing work on issues that matter to us ought to be starving and grateful for being poor? Honestly, if Mr. ReddHedd didn’t have a good job, I’d never be able to afford to work the hours I do on this blog and on the issues that matter to me and survive. And it’s worse for local blogs whose work on local races and political issues is vital in a lot of cases.
Instead of turning your bile at Aravosis, why not ask yourself if you’ve donated to a progressive blog lately? Because far too many of them have had to go dark the last few months due to financial constraints. And if we all end up having to do that, who exactly is going to fight back for better legal appointments? Or economic messaging that progressive?
Stop and think about that for a moment.
As a micro-small self-subsidized blogger, Jane, I just want to say Amen, sister!
Jane you are great and the point of your post cannot be stressed or mentioned often enough.
And stratocruiser and JoeBuddha also got it right. We are not like them.
Jane, thanks for all you do.
Great Post!!
Wait?! You’re a capitalist, Jane?!?!
And all this time I thought the Lake was a progressive socialist liberal fascist website.
I suppose next you’ll be defending the Constitution or something.
Jane, did you know you got called a hypocrite about this very topic by some right wing goof?
http://patterico.com/2009/04/0…..py-ending/
Or holding media feet to the fire…
or writing to contextualize what local examples can teach about the meta of how this country operates…or fails to…
Amen to you, too, Christy!
Forgive? No, I don’t think that is what I am up to. Rather, on some things, I am willing to be more patient than others.
There is so much that needs to be done that Obama has to prioritize. So far, I have agreed with his decisions in this regard.
Now, having said that, I am glad there are people on the left pointing out mistakes they perceive he has made and calling attention to things they believe he hasn’t adequately addressed. The last thing we want to do is become the “Amen” chorus.
“They never have to worry about traffic, they never have to be even a little bit clever or creative or think or even spell right.”
Oh, I’m totaly wounded by this. I know I can’t spel, but being accused of nto thinkin & bieng uncreative. Oh thut hurtz.
Oh, and Jane — the fact that the whole point of capitalism appears to escape any of these people just floors me. Difference between having to scrape by running your own business and meeting overhead (which I did month to month when I was running my own firm back in the day) and having wingnut welfare handed to you from the moment you join the cause and never having to worry about making a monthly nut because that was factored in to your package.
“they’re intellectually honest ideologues who are genuinely motivated by principle and actually outraged when their government violates said principles”
Do you understand that make such people the most dangerous? Honest people with ideals – truly a dangerous group. Off to Gitmo with them.
deleted, because of PJ’s apology at 35
Respectfully I disagree with your comment
“To Progressives, Politics is about governing to the best of your ability. Naturally, there are exceptions”
I believe it’s Government of the People, by the people, for the people.
Jane,
It is sad our society has degraded to a point where you even have to take the time to write this post.
Years ago, I was once told by a guest from another country, that the beauty of democratic capitalism was the ability to engage in out loud, critical, problem solving, thinking in regards to how society needs to operate within the framework of freedom and our constitutional rights, without being thrown in jail or shunned. Furthermore, he noted such engagement creates healthy economic competition.
I wish I could have lunch with that guest today and hear their “this is now,” comment about our democracy today.
JoeBuddha – nicely written
Christy, thanks for your response. I know where John got his rant from. It referenced Jane’s post. I read her post. It was sincere. I agree. I agree with John. I do not agree with censoring someone for posting about whining. That is just as bad as anything the Bush regime did because “we” are supposed to be better than that. It just appears that the Who were right. Meet the new boss!
I apologize if I offend.
Peace!
kindred spirit in the small business office-running context here. You’re exactly right, Christy. Individually, they don’t get it…whether it’s the bad boy banksters who’ve been flying high or the wingnuts bloggers.
Piracy is not capitalism. Vampire economics is not capitalism. From top to bottom Reaganomics/Bushienomics has bled productivity and capital from the economy to support a bunch of vulgarians who could not function in a real economy.
Warmed my heart to hear a radio commentary this morning about po’ po’ pitiful hedge fund managers reduced to running hot dog carts for survival. Need a few more of the vulgarians to face that fate.
was equally gobsmaked by the same you-don’t-know-what-you’re-talking-about!!! response to Ian Welsh and Krugman over at HuffPo a few weeks back – but hey, the chardonnay was crisp and the brie was yummy:D
FWIW, this place doesn’t run on air. The only way you get talented writers to make complex, fast moving stuff accessible to the hoi polloi is to pay them. I have no idea how Jane and the stable of fine writers she has assembled survive given the quantity and quality they generate 24X7X365.
I kick in at least $10/month. I’m trying to up that to $20. I wish I could do a lot more. In terms of the cost benefit ratio, I feel as though I’m just stealing from them.
…speaking of which, I got laid off a couple of months ago and all my charity giving or monetary political activism has dropped to very lo levels. But, I did go out and buy myself a pound of coffee the other day, and I do still stop at the local (is there one that isn’t?) Starbucks from time to time.
I can certainly kick in a couple of bucks to the FDL maintenance fund.
Best
These excellent examples of mis-communication are good illustrations of the issues raised by Myers-Briggs/Jungian types/temperaments. Dr. Katz (Comedy Central one) featured a highly uninformative but equally entertaining episode about this topic, I should add.
Oh please don’t feel like you have to if you are laid off. Truly. If you need it, please use it for your family. I love you for offering — it’s incredibly generous of you — but I wouldn’t want to take something out of your family’s needs if you all need it. Thank you so very, very much for the offer.
I said I agree about the advertising. I don’t agree to censoring because of a dissenting viewpoint. There was no Avaro$i$ in the original post. There was no offensive language. There was only objection to John’s whiny editorial. I’m sure he and others have commented upon other editorial writers “tone”. I did not take Jane’s post as “whiny”. I do object to censorship solely upon dissenting views. So there! That’s my whiny-ass view.
Oh, and I haven’t worked in over a year. I’m pissed off too.
OH, and Christy, I don’t pull crap!
My apologies.
We are too few to throw stones about the little stuff.
Good luck with that.
I had suggested over at Americablog to work with the these groups on their development plans to include blog advertising in them. Perhaps work with SEIU to demonstrate the success of how we can work together. Create a model that others could follow.
Are there development professionals in the networks to work out a pitch or plan to present to these folks?
Or have the donors to these groups demand that part of their donations go to blog advertising. Sorta like the check box on the tax returns for Presidential elections.
Some suggestions from someone on the way out the door.
Listen Christy if I can still buy a tall coffee at Starbucks I can still support my FDL jones. I read your stuff everyday and get most of my “real” news about what’s going on from here. I need you guys to stick around.
jane, this is one of my favorite posts, it’s what I’ve been preaching to the gop’s for 8 long years
An excellent post, When Belief in the System Fades, over at http://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html adds context to Jane’s observations.
When Jane notes she dismissed the teabaggers as individuals deluded by “pathological authoritarianism” but then (after thoughtful research) added further context to their behavior, she was engaging in something foreign to standard wingnuttery.
It’s called nuance, and is the same reason lefty humourists are genuinely funny and insightful while righty comedians come off as dopey and even amateurish. They just don’t get the gray area…
Compassionate intelligence develops in the gray area between belief systems. A certain amount of fearlessness is necessary to explore this ambivalent psychology.
In the authoritarian brain, posturing is the Real Thing. Context is usually of lesser value and unexamined… as in beliefs trumping facts.
I happen to believe wingnuts are fantasists, awfully close in meaning to “fanatic”.
Fanatics are governed rather by imagination than by
judgment. –Stowe.
AARP has all the attributes of a sixteen-pound sledgehammer without the hammer, just the shaft. It has enormous potential in numbers, in distribution of its members, and in money to spend.
It sits at the apex of today’s hot button issues – universal health care, retirement safety, the education of children and grandchildren – but seems to find that power as comfortable as riding a bicycle with no seat. It blunts its message by selling out to the first heavy-handed lobbyist or CongressCritter that comes calling. Neither is a rarity in Washington.
AARP has a fiduciary’s obligation to do better, but it relies on what it hopes is the temerity of its aging membership and just goes along. As Jane might say, “Leading is hard, isn’t it?” I prefer the Thomas Paine quote Ted Turner had on his desk: “Lead, follow, or get out of the way.”
Jane,
I have to disagree with one implication of your post.
You certainly seem to be at least suggesting that the criticism that Obama has received from the left blogosphere is proof of its far greater commitment to principle than one might find in the right blogosphere, because the right blogosphere, in contrast, was so uniform in its support of Bush.
But this fails to acknowledge a crucial point: on policies, Bush represented a far more consistent representation of the right wing ideal than Obama has of the left wing ideal. Obama’s policies might far more accurately be described as Center, or even Center-right, than Bush’s might ever be as Center, or Center-left. Had Bush been more like his father, and more accurately depicted as more Centrist, then the parallels drawn would have been far more apt. In fact, of course, Bush’s father did receive scathing criticism at the hands of the right; indeed it may have been that criticism that played the major responsibility for his loss in his re-election campaign.
What is remarkable about Obama’s treatment in the blogosphere is how little criticism he has received despite his having betrayed basic progressive principles. How can any true progressive look at his embrace of Wall Street at the expense of the taxpayers and not be appalled, or his continuation of the horrid Bush policies with regard to state secrets and the enabling of espionage on our own citizens? I certainly can’t think of Bush policies that were so flagrantly contemptuous of what the right wing held near and dear.
In fact, Bush was pretty much as perfect an embodiment of what the right wing sought as might be possible in our politics, and the right wing was very much right to embrace him largely uncritically as one of their own. (Of course, it is very convenient now, in the wake of his disgrace, for them to pretend that he wasn’t a good representative of their ideal.)
Would that Obama might himself have been as perfect an embodiment of the progressive ideal, rather than what he is.
Dear Jane,
The term you’re seeking is “reaction formation”. It’s a psychological term that means a pathology that acts out in opposition to deeply held desires.
It’s pretty simple: they oppose the gay, because they are gay; they’re mad when they think we’re stealing, because (as you point out) they want to steal it all for themselves; and they think Barack Obama is a fascist because George Bush was a fascist.
When the rhetoric (law&order, fiscal responsibility, family, etc..) is so deeply at odds with that which they support (George Bush, anti-Obama, etc..), it’s a pretty clean bet that that which they oppose is, in fact, their deepest desires.
Not only does Glenn Beck fear FEMA concentration camps… even more, he fears missing out on being one of the soldiers loading YOU unto the trains.
So, no, wingnuts don’t know how capitalism works. They don’t want to. In their deepest heart of hearts, they wish they were welfare queens driving around in cadillacs, never having to do another days work again…
Let’s be honest. We knew Obama was no more progressive than Hillary Clinton. Obama did have quite a few things going for him over John McCain. For instance, Obama didn’t sing songs about bombing Iran to the tune of the beach boys and think it was funny. We didn’t expect progressive, but we did expect adults. I don’t think many thought we’d be able to sit back and stop pushing on issues like stopping torture and closing Gitmo. And then of course there’s congress. Crittendon is dumbheaded.
Intellectual honesty, what a concept. It means that you’re open to persuasion if your opponent has a good argument, it means you’re willing to admit mistakes when you’re wrong. It means you have some chance of learning from your mistakes. And you’re always looking at the real world to see what is happening.
It also means that you have to be willing to do honest work, though. And it is frustrating, because you’re at the disadvantage of being constrained by what you perceive of as reality.
I’m probably one of the few who remember this incident, but my first impression of the Obama campaign was formed by its treatment of the guy who ran the MyObama MySpace page. Rather than pay the guy $40k for a year and a half of work, they stiffed him. I’m sure that the campaign spent more than that on copy machines. Those were their priorities then, and I’m guessing that little has changed. The old-line Democratic Party and liberal institutions figure we can, and will, do this for free.
While that’s true to an extent, sometimes you get what you pay for. Doing this takes time and effort. If those of us who do it can’t afford to, then we’ll do something else.