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		<title>By: brantl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/08/not-even-trying-anymore/#comment-1876001</link>
		<dc:creator>brantl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, knucklehead, saying that he would pursue non-partisan support and then doing so, then being let down by the “We’ll just say no!” Republicans doesn’t mean that he doesn’t measure up, it means THEY don’t. But thanks for playing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, knucklehead, saying that he would pursue non-partisan support and then doing so, then being let down by the “We’ll just say no!” Republicans doesn’t mean that he doesn’t measure up, it means THEY don’t. But thanks for playing.</p>
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		<title>By: freepatriot</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/08/not-even-trying-anymore/#comment-1875909</link>
		<dc:creator>freepatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 18:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;do the repuglitards have any fucking clue that we can SEE THE GUY BEHIND THE CURTAIN ???&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the Wizard of Oz couldn’t fool Dorthy, and we ain’t Dorthy&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and the repuglitards ain’t exactly “wizards” either&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do the repuglitards have any fucking clue that we can SEE THE GUY BEHIND THE CURTAIN ???</p>
<p>the Wizard of Oz couldn’t fool Dorthy, and we ain’t Dorthy</p>
<p>and the repuglitards ain’t exactly “wizards” either</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/08/not-even-trying-anymore/#comment-1875844</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And actually Frank…you ignore the fact that Democrats DID get on board with Bush’s policies…until about the time he started pushing to put Social Security into the stockmarket into accounts managed by Lehman Brothers, Chase, BankAmerica, Merrill Lynch. and Wachovia. How many times did the Democrats actually filibuster anything in the first six years of Bush? How many times did Bush have to veto a bill because some Republicans jumped the aisle? That only occurred late in Bush’s second term with SCHIP.&lt;br /&gt;
The Democrats voting entirely against any Democratically pushed proposal didn’t happen in the first months of Bush’s becoming President. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So I think that there is more than a little “historical revisionism” here.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And Bush also made the claim throughout his campaigns that he would be bipartisan. At least he suggested that he was going to use half the Clinton $4 trillion surplus to “fund SSI” while giving only 25% back in tax cuts (the rest to be spent away on “special programs” rather than to reduce the deficit). Don’t believe me? Go read the Bush-Gore 2000 debates…along with all the bulldada about not using the military for “nation building”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Even in the second campaign…but immediately changed that when he won by a sliver and claimed that “I have a mandate” to eviscerate SSI, Medicare, to cut taxes even further, and to reduce social spending.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And actually Frank…you ignore the fact that Democrats DID get on board with Bush’s policies…until about the time he started pushing to put Social Security into the stockmarket into accounts managed by Lehman Brothers, Chase, BankAmerica, Merrill Lynch. and Wachovia. How many times did the Democrats actually filibuster anything in the first six years of Bush? How many times did Bush have to veto a bill because some Republicans jumped the aisle? That only occurred late in Bush’s second term with SCHIP.<br />
The Democrats voting entirely against any Democratically pushed proposal didn’t happen in the first months of Bush’s becoming President. </p>
<p>So I think that there is more than a little “historical revisionism” here.</p>
<p>And Bush also made the claim throughout his campaigns that he would be bipartisan. At least he suggested that he was going to use half the Clinton $4 trillion surplus to “fund SSI” while giving only 25% back in tax cuts (the rest to be spent away on “special programs” rather than to reduce the deficit). Don’t believe me? Go read the Bush-Gore 2000 debates…along with all the bulldada about not using the military for “nation building”.</p>
<p>Even in the second campaign…but immediately changed that when he won by a sliver and claimed that “I have a mandate” to eviscerate SSI, Medicare, to cut taxes even further, and to reduce social spending.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/08/not-even-trying-anymore/#comment-1875841</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Frankly…didn’t you read this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The polarization problem seems to be on one-side of the aisle, and it isn’t the Party that starts with a “D”. Plus, Obama is far more popular with Independents, than say…any Republican. And even better Mikey, let’s look at those popularity ratings among the only growing voting bloc, the young. Obama’s favorability with voters ages 18-29, 81 percent; Democrats, 59 percent; Republicans, 9 percent — Nine!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One expects partisan support for a President within his own party. If it declines to…say about 60% as it did with Bush…that’s a big issue. But the Independents seem to be as “mindless” in their support as the Democrats. And you fail to see that registration numbers are WAY down for the GOP everywhere but the Appalachian states. So low support amongst a decreasing number of Republicans actually means that “former Republicans” are probably leaning in support of the President.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly…didn’t you read this.</p>
<p>“The polarization problem seems to be on one-side of the aisle, and it isn’t the Party that starts with a “D”. Plus, Obama is far more popular with Independents, than say…any Republican. And even better Mikey, let’s look at those popularity ratings among the only growing voting bloc, the young. Obama’s favorability with voters ages 18-29, 81 percent; Democrats, 59 percent; Republicans, 9 percent — Nine!”</p>
<p>One expects partisan support for a President within his own party. If it declines to…say about 60% as it did with Bush…that’s a big issue. But the Independents seem to be as “mindless” in their support as the Democrats. And you fail to see that registration numbers are WAY down for the GOP everywhere but the Appalachian states. So low support amongst a decreasing number of Republicans actually means that “former Republicans” are probably leaning in support of the President.</p>
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		<title>By: Knut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt; So anti-discrimination laws were not needed, I take it? And women deserved less pay for the same work? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think she’s projecting, because she actually gets paid for the crap she peddles, and knows it’s crap.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> So anti-discrimination laws were not needed, I take it? And women deserved less pay for the same work? </p>
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<p>I think she’s projecting, because she actually gets paid for the crap she peddles, and knows it’s crap.</p>
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		<title>By: frankly0</title>
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		<dc:creator>frankly0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Look, the fact is that it was Obama who claimed that he somehow had the magic political skills to help heal the partisan divide, right? That was supposed to be his unique contribution to our politics, something only he, unlike the other candidates, could achieve. If he has failed to do so, it is most definitely his failure to deliver on his own promise. The Republicans are being simply what the Republicans have always been — what they were, pretty much exactly, when Obama made his campaign promise. Yet that was the promise he chose to make.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And isn’t there something wrong in any case about blaming the Republicans only for the current partisan divide inspired by Obama? If 88% of Democrats now approve of Obama, why is that not at least as mindlessly partisan as the 73% of Republicans who don’t approve of Obama? Isn’t it all the more so since so much of what Obama has done is NOT progressive, suggesting that it is only the worst kind of unthinking partisanship that would inspire so much loyalty? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Really, the accusation that it is only the Republicans who are being partisan here exactly mimics the bizarre claim during Bush’s tenure. He and his people would more or less assert that he was being bipartisan, of course, but those damn Democrats wouldn’t get on board with his policies, so they were to blame for all the vile partisanship. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Really, for once in your life, try to put the shoe on the other foot. Try to see the beam in your own eye.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, the fact is that it was Obama who claimed that he somehow had the magic political skills to help heal the partisan divide, right? That was supposed to be his unique contribution to our politics, something only he, unlike the other candidates, could achieve. If he has failed to do so, it is most definitely his failure to deliver on his own promise. The Republicans are being simply what the Republicans have always been — what they were, pretty much exactly, when Obama made his campaign promise. Yet that was the promise he chose to make.</p>
<p>And isn’t there something wrong in any case about blaming the Republicans only for the current partisan divide inspired by Obama? If 88% of Democrats now approve of Obama, why is that not at least as mindlessly partisan as the 73% of Republicans who don’t approve of Obama? Isn’t it all the more so since so much of what Obama has done is NOT progressive, suggesting that it is only the worst kind of unthinking partisanship that would inspire so much loyalty? </p>
<p>Really, the accusation that it is only the Republicans who are being partisan here exactly mimics the bizarre claim during Bush’s tenure. He and his people would more or less assert that he was being bipartisan, of course, but those damn Democrats wouldn’t get on board with his policies, so they were to blame for all the vile partisanship. </p>
<p>Really, for once in your life, try to put the shoe on the other foot. Try to see the beam in your own eye.</p>
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		<title>By: WVAPA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/08/not-even-trying-anymore/#comment-1875824</link>
		<dc:creator>WVAPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 13:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Mack! Did you see Morning Joe this am? Joe, Mika, Mike, and Willie were touting Gerson’s column like he was Moses bringing truth down from the mountain. And Harold Ford (is he really a Democrat?) didn’t have the stones to call the braintrust out on the divisiveness claim. Just look at the prez’s numbers. He’s made some small inroads into the Repub base in terms of popularity and public confidence. Couldn’t somebody have pointed out that Gerson is hardly the voice of post-partisanship? That he wrote speeches for the worst president this country has ever had? I never knew Moses, but I’m pretty sure Gerson ain’t him.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mack! Did you see Morning Joe this am? Joe, Mika, Mike, and Willie were touting Gerson’s column like he was Moses bringing truth down from the mountain. And Harold Ford (is he really a Democrat?) didn’t have the stones to call the braintrust out on the divisiveness claim. Just look at the prez’s numbers. He’s made some small inroads into the Repub base in terms of popularity and public confidence. Couldn’t somebody have pointed out that Gerson is hardly the voice of post-partisanship? That he wrote speeches for the worst president this country has ever had? I never knew Moses, but I’m pretty sure Gerson ain’t him.</p>
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		<title>By: Beerfart Liberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/08/not-even-trying-anymore/#comment-1875805</link>
		<dc:creator>Beerfart Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Really.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really.</p>
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		<title>By: Beerfart Liberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/08/not-even-trying-anymore/#comment-1875804</link>
		<dc:creator>Beerfart Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;God.  She’s even loonier than I thought. So anti-discrimination laws were not needed, I take it?  And women deserved less pay for the same work? Jeez, if she said that today I’d tell her “hey hon, iron my shirt.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God.  She’s even loonier than I thought. So anti-discrimination laws were not needed, I take it?  And women deserved less pay for the same work? Jeez, if she said that today I’d tell her “hey hon, iron my shirt.”</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/04/08/not-even-trying-anymore/#comment-1875803</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 12:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;not a problem for him.  his image doesn’t show up in a mirror.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not a problem for him.  his image doesn’t show up in a mirror.</p>
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