A few hours before he was sworn in, he gave an interview to Jeffrey Goldberg of The Atlantic and gave Obama an ultimatum:
The American president, he said, must stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons—and quickly—or an imperiled Israel may be forced to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities itself.
(snip)
In unusually blunt language, Netanyahu said of the Iranian leadership, “You don’t want a messianic apocalyptic cult controlling atomic bombs. When the wide-eyed believer gets hold of the reins of power and the weapons of mass death, then the entire world should start worrying, and that is what is happening in Iran.”
(snip)
Neither Netanyahu nor his principal military advisers would suggest a deadline for American progress on the Iran nuclear program, though one aide said pointedly that Israeli time lines are now drawn in months, “not years.” These same military advisers told me that they believe Iran’s defenses remain penetrable, and that Israel would not necessarily need American approval to launch an attack. “The problem is not military capability, the problem is whether you have the stomach, the political will, to take action,” one of his advisers, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told me.
As Cernig warns in his post Netan-Yahoo: “An Israeli strike on Iran would either be contested by American air defenses or seen as carried out with American complicity if it was allowed to proceed unchallenged.”
Now I have no idea what is being said behind the scenes – and I certainly hope someone in this administration is paying attention to the reliable reports from both our own NIE and the IAEA that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon – but public statements like those of Petraeus yesterday at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing, which repeat the unfounded claims that Iran is building one, are, at best, not helpful, and, at worst, a nod and a wink to the Israelis that we will not intervene to stop them.
Obama has both called Netanyahu and congratulated him on his swearing-in, pledging full support for the security of Israel. At the same time, he issued a statement with Medvedev which is possibly a subtle rebuff to Bibi’s threats:
"While we recognize that under the NPT [Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons] Iran has the right to a civilian nuclear program, Iran needs to restore confidence in its exclusively peaceful nature," U.S. President Barack Obama and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev announced in a joint statement ahead of their first sit-down.
But as Kaveh L Afrasiabi writes in the Asia Times:
The new diplomatic tempo generated by Obama’s "game-changing" tactics toward Iran could be torpedoed by Israel’s military rhetoric against Iran.
The Israeli leadership claims to support Obama’s initiative, but appears unwilling to forego its sabre-rattling broadsides – salvos that simply fuel the argument of Tehran’s hardliners that Iran should not be content with simply having nuclear capability, and must actually build bombs. Fortunately, this is not an argument to which the present leadership in Iran is listening.
Israeli officials and media often refer to "the time factor" – how close Iran is getting to the bombs. Yet it may be Israel’s own threats that have been accelerating the process. In fact, the more Israel repeats the official line that "once all the options are exhausted, there will be no choice but the military option", the more it prevents successful negotiations.
M.J. Rosenberg over at TPM has the best advice for Obama:
President Obama needs to get on the phone and let Netanyahu know that Israel can take no action vis a vis Iran without full consultation with Washington. …
That is a message Obama needs to deliver not diplomatically but directly and unambiguously.
Let’s hope someone on the Obama foreign policy team is doing precisely that.



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Completely OT: More from the Palins…Todd this time. It is a day when we need alittle humor and to question again: Will they ever be quiet? Or, gone? Sorry. Im having a not very good morning. Thanks.
This guy sounds like a GOP wingnut!
Obama’s gonna have his hands full with this guy
This is where we ought to cut the Israelis completely off (no money, no hardware, no support), or yank their chain very hard.
They really don’t understand the possible results of what they’re pushing: nothing that would be good for them.
I think the only thing that’s keeping the U.S. from bombing Iran itself is the U.S. military, which is worried about troops in neighboring countries. The Air Force, however, would love the job, as they are as apocolyptic as Bibi.
BTW, I read a couple of weeks ago that Israel’s attack on Osirik was a waste of time, since it was a light water reactor and fuel from those can’t be recycled into bombs. This was in the midst of a somewhat different topic, so there was no explanation. I have no idea if any of it is true. Does anyone here know?
Biden said he’d be tested like this within his first 6 months , I don’t think he meant by an ally !
But we all know Net-Yahoo’s spots….
When the whole party is sliding down the ice on the high mountains, it’s time to cut the ties that bind.
Somewhere there is a cartoon featuring a spoiled rich kid (labeled Taiwan) in the back of a limo driven by a disgruntled Uncle Sam taunting the tough guys on the playground (China) from his safe haven.
It’s time to allow Israel, the most powerful military and economy in the Middle East, and the only one with nuclear weaponry, to stand on its own bluster and stop running our foreign policy for its own purposes. I am sick of the Israel Lobby which whips cowardly and corrupt Congress into whimpering support for every aggressive move against Palestenians. There were five, count ‘em five, Senators with the guts to vote against a suckup statement of roses and laurel wreaths for the “victors” of the Gaza invasion. The Knesset has more loyal opposition.
The means of stopping a nuclear attack is with diplomacy and not more of the same bluster which brought it about in the first place. Likud will crack the whip and its army of lobbyists we call Senators and Congressmen will make their firey speeches to inflict war to end war once more in the desert.
And yet, as Queen Noor told Rachel last night, the only country in the Middle East not a signatory of the Non-Proliferation treaty is Israel. Is it presumed that only israel is competent to have and to hold such weaponry?
It is NOT 1938 and Iran is Germany. What a dangerous man he is. Combined with Avigdor Lieberman’s rejection of Annapolis for more apartheid, it is a multiply dangerous time.
A lasting legacy of the holocaust: Israel seeks revenge and pity of everyone else allows them to get away with it.
To the Israelis and the neocons, every foreign threat is Germany and the year is 1938.
Ummm – we had this with George W. Bush, and still have it with all those fine Dobson-ized graduates of Rocky Mountain Bible College, f/k/a the United States Air Force Academy, in charge of one of the two largest nuclear ballistic missile and bomber fleets in the world.
Look in a mirror, Benny.
Watched an American Experience repeat of their Jim Jones piece the other night. Israel is beginning to look more and more like Jonestown.
Is Israel’s economy influenced by the global meltdown?
I had heard Ms. Noor earlier, and I think she was also talking about the US in not very favorable terms. Was that part of the Rachel conversation?
not israelis. just some of them (far far too many of them).
and some israelis are working for peace, usually at great personal risk.
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What’s he indicted for?
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Correction noted. I know that, but a country is known by its leaders, as we in the U.S. are familiar with.
France, Germany, the UK, China, Russia, Japan, North and South Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Brazil, all the Arab nations and even Canada have all had leaders who speak out and say “THIS IS OUR COUNTRY A88-HOLES – AND NO-ONE TELLS US WHAT TO DO!
I sincerely hope our Moderate President Obama speaks back to Israel’s threats as swiftly and as surely as it does to AlQaeda’s.
Clearly the Obama administration is trying to restrain Netanyahu. Given the upcoming Iranian election — in which a sane alternative to Ahmadinejad is possible (and he isn’t the most powerful person in Iran anyway) — this would be the worst time for such an attack. Of course, there is no good time; the only recent war Iran has fought was against Iraq (whom we supported in that war). Talk about irresponsible, self-defeating actions. . . . Netanyahu is capable of such madness; but if he really is concerned about Israel’s future, he would be crazy to order a preemtive strike.
Israel cannot get to Iran without crossing the airspace of countries that would not be inclined to allow this to happen. Additionally, Israel would need US aerial tankers to refuel their aircraft as I do not think they have the range for a round trip. Also Iran does have some sophisticated air defense systems.
Oh please. Some?? Well ’some’ just elected him as the leader of Israel.
Not to mention the American Congress backing Israel’s every desire, which included supporting Netanyahu.
As Joe Lieberman or Steny Hoyer how happy they are that he’s #1.
lol, it’s 8 years of bush that have sensitized me to it – even on behalf of others.
hated to hear people say “americans” when they meant bush or the bush administration, or even the usa gov.
Sorry to hear about your morning. Is there anything I can do to help?
Link?
New Jane post up: “GOP Messaging: Mission Fail”
usually at great personal risk.
Yep, anyone in Israel who works for peace does so at great personal risk. Just ask the family and friends of Rachel Corrie, Tom Hurndall, Tristan Anderson, etc.
http://www.independent.co.uk/n…..52604.html
a nation is a complex system of individuals and groups. no need to anthropormorphize.
WashingtonDC allowed Israel to become the West Asian monster it now is. It is plainly evident how lopsided entire realm of Israeli conduct has become from the brutal,illegal occupation/settlement policies,Gaza,Lebanon and this fact abusive Israeli Likudnik/zealot warmongering towards Iran.
There are more than a few fuses to be found across Asia that once lit lead surely to some very explosive outcomes. Israeli desires to light any fuse leading to Iran being attacked via IAF means is first class Summer of 1914 stuff.
No doubt there are enough crazed types spread across WashingtonDC,the Pentagon and in Israel who would rather ignore facts and go with decades long demonization posturing towards Iran.
Surprising indeed Bush The Idiot and Cheney Lord Vader did not succeed in getting into a shooting war with Iran. Israeli PM Netanyahu surely must rue having come back as Israeli PM
too late to partake of those two American leaders warmongery and bellicosity.
Predicting President Obama regarding Israeli conduct at this point a fairly murky undertaking. President Obama surley has not condemned Israel’s attack on Gaza in any big way. SoS Clinton likely is quite comfortable with letting Israel blow up whatever it feels like as she is quite pronounced in her pro-Israeli views. She is “unhelpful” in all this.
Attacking Iran is a much worse idea than attacking Iraq ever was to be sure. Summer of 1914 was a fuse once lit that led to very explosive outcomes. Letting Israel do the same now with Iran really is a bad idea.
exactly – israelis have also volunteered with ISM (the group the people you mentioned were volunteering with) and there other groups like jeff halper’s, physcians for human rights, etc.
Don’t be silly. Here, read this. Everyone who is interested sufficiently to read this far should consult the text. There is a full-length book on the subject by the same authors with the same title. Any commentor on the subject should read at least the article (published, not surprisingly, beyond our borders).
You will learn the heroic and plucky small country beset by a huge gang of powerful neighbors is a myth created by Leon Uris for a movie which became the understanding of the Middle East, American style.
This is my land;
God gave this land to me.
These real-sounding threats have been going on for a long time. Secretary of State Colin Powell answered a reporter’s question when he was at an airport or base somewhere in Africa (and wearing a flak jacket) by repeating the question: “Should Israel attack Iran [if Iran doesn’t allow inspections]?” Powell said Iran has to come clean, or something like that. No link, sorry, and there wasn’t YouTube in 04/05.
Today, Mr. Netanyahu is trying to ‘affect’ the ‘new’ (i.e., public) US overtures about opening talks with Iran after 30 years of FM?-FY!
I thought the Americans had cut some sort of deal with Iran to allow the US to run supply lines for the troops in Afghanistan through Iran.
This kind of talk/action from the Israelis is not going to be helpful.
Netanyahu has realized the dream of every politician: a good place in the middle. In his new government he can play off the fascists on the right against the socialists on the left, Liberman”s secularists against the orthodox of Shas.
But whence the Americans?
Netanyahu associates say their team has created a list of issues to be dealt with before his U.S. visit May 3rd. Foreign policy for the new government, especially on the Iranian and Palestinian fronts, tops the list.
The sources said the idea is for Netanyahu to arrive in Washington with a clear agenda for dealing with the Palestinian Authority and Hamas, as well as with talking points (dictates) on the U.S. dialogue with Iran and on forestalling that country’s nuclear program. Another issue the team will be pressing to resolve is the Israeli budget. (The Israeli state budget for 2009 has not yet been approved, but as the US’ top recipient of foreign aid, “banks” on US support)
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/o…..No=1072217
Without question, a solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict would be a central factor in the struggle against Islamic fundamentalists and world jihad.
Could Israel go it against Iran alone? Perhaps:
http://www.csis.org/media/csis…..keiran.pdf
But any Israeli strike on Iran, nuclear or conventional, would have the effect of dragging the US into the ensuing conflict, which the US can little afford. (but perhaps Israel is also banking upon?)
Viable threats or canny negotiation? Only time will tell.
It is so interesting that no one seems to recall the only nation which has ever used nuclear weapons for mass killing is among those most obsessive in their non-proliferation.
Oh, the Israelis will promise not to bomb that part of Iran. /s
Israel using nukes against Iran? Guess they’re relying on the prevailing winds to blow the other way.
U.S. is not obsessed about proliferation per se. It’s obsessed with being the only nation that has ‘em.
Take a boo at the report link I posted – it’s interesting reading.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09……html?_r=1
“Mr. Powell withheld judgment on news reports from Jerusalem quoting Israeli officials as saying they reserved the right to attack Iranian nuclear weapons sites. ‘I am not aware of any plans to attack Iran,’ Mr. Powell said. ‘Every nation has all options available to it’.”
Hey, now this thread is talking about Israel’s using nukes? Huh?
Hey, well, yes. Your kind words. Thanks…Good morning to you.
The topic was nuclear weapons, and her first statement celebrated the bold and unprecedented breakthrough on the subject by Medvedev and Obama in London just yesterday.
See it for yourself in only a few minutes.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#30002781
Now that Bibi and his pals are the government, we need to abandon Israel to their fate. The people of Israel voted for enough right wing nuts to put them in power and strangle the peace process. How can we support a nation willing to commit war crimes under it’s previous leader, and then installed a new government farther to the right that claims they will need to proceed with more war to protect them. Then threatening to blow up Iran if we don’t?
Nuts.
Thank you….I had been wondering if we may hear the soft, persistent voices of the peacemakers.
and someone has used nuclear weapons for something other than mass killing?
American politicians generally do what the Israel Lobby tells them to do.
Go ahead Netanyahoo…see where it gets you..frikkin’ maniacs.
They make wonderful gifts or when your Union collapses and you might need a couple of extra kopeks …
DIGG IS OPEN
All who possess the big bomb, most recently India, North Korea, Pakistan, who blow them off to win friends and frighten enemies. There is much more brandishing than busting caps in this world, thank the gods. Yet even Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a display for the benefit of the Russians staged by another in a series of simple southern politicians.
Fixed it.
There might have been another reason or two for the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings.
Nice bit of work on your part, sneaking Petraeus into bed with Netanyahu.
Gotta wonder how Petraeus finds the time, with a war or two to manage.
Add that to his plot to overthrow the government that Gareth Porter was pushing,and that you were seconding, a couple of weeks ago and he must be a busy fellow.
Any follow-up on Petraeus’ treasonous activities, Siun? .
I guess we should have just invaded Japan with U.S. casualties estimated at up to 1,000,000 and civilian casualties in the tens of millions instead.
I just posted about a video done by Rick Steves on his travels to Iran.
View the video before you think about dropping bombs.
Shamanaqua
Having seen Rick Steves Iran hour long travel/tourism film on PBS a few weeks back I encourage anyone interested in seeing a different view of Iran other than the one Israel seeks to spread about to seek it out and give it an open minded viewing. Doing so will have been time well spent.
I saw the program and it was informative.Just goes to show that the majority of civilized people anywhere are good people.The ambitious bastards at the top along with the 1 percenters have to screw it up for everyone else.
No, Osirak was a test reactor, capable of producing plutonium.