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	<title>Comments on: Social Security: More Sound and Fury; Still Signifying Nothing</title>
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		<title>By: WWWoDEMOCRATZoORG</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/31/social-security-more-sound-and-fury-still-signifying-nothing/#comment-1869860</link>
		<dc:creator>WWWoDEMOCRATZoORG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 02:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Kassandra. I have a plan to ruin the Republiklan party.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kassandra. I have a plan to ruin the Republiklan party.</p>
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		<title>By: SomeGuy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/31/social-security-more-sound-and-fury-still-signifying-nothing/#comment-1869824</link>
		<dc:creator>SomeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for this great quote Phoenix Woman:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“For example: Economic growth over the period of 1929 to 2004 — years that include the Great Depression — averaged 3.6%. It only takes a 2.7% average to keep SS fully funded forever. Yet the trustees, in order to achieve their sky-is-falling bullshit numbers, consistently project long-term growth rates of around 1.8%, which means they’re predicting Depression Forever — in which case we’d have much, much bigger things to worry about than SS. Such as total societal collapse and cannibalism.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I just which more people were exposed to the truth. Lots of people hear the same lies so many times on TV they never even question what they are hearing. Somehow this message has got reach people who are not already in the choir.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this great quote Phoenix Woman:</p>
<p>“For example: Economic growth over the period of 1929 to 2004 — years that include the Great Depression — averaged 3.6%. It only takes a 2.7% average to keep SS fully funded forever. Yet the trustees, in order to achieve their sky-is-falling bullshit numbers, consistently project long-term growth rates of around 1.8%, which means they’re predicting Depression Forever — in which case we’d have much, much bigger things to worry about than SS. Such as total societal collapse and cannibalism.”</p>
<p>I just which more people were exposed to the truth. Lots of people hear the same lies so many times on TV they never even question what they are hearing. Somehow this message has got reach people who are not already in the choir.</p>
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		<title>By: Kassandra</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/31/social-security-more-sound-and-fury-still-signifying-nothing/#comment-1869820</link>
		<dc:creator>Kassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh they’ve learned alot…it just doesn’t benefit US. They’ve learned how to fleece the America public really well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I expect to be starving in my home if I lose my SSI which the Repubs hate the very most; all us disabled persons who are good for nothing and prolly don’t even NEED the help; fraudulent people!………sorta like the banks that took TARP when they didn’t need it , ya know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe I could give lessons on how to live on $600.00 a month while paying a mortgage…….hmmmmmmmmmm&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh they’ve learned alot…it just doesn’t benefit US. They’ve learned how to fleece the America public really well.</p>
<p>I expect to be starving in my home if I lose my SSI which the Repubs hate the very most; all us disabled persons who are good for nothing and prolly don’t even NEED the help; fraudulent people!………sorta like the banks that took TARP when they didn’t need it , ya know.</p>
<p>Maybe I could give lessons on how to live on $600.00 a month while paying a mortgage…….hmmmmmmmmmm</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/31/social-security-more-sound-and-fury-still-signifying-nothing/#comment-1869807</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;AEI and Heritage prolly have entire divisions just for trashing SS.  The msm actually drug one of these think tank “economists” out of the shadows to blather on about the economy a week or so ago.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sure wish F1 was webstreamed.  I’d even pay for that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AEI and Heritage prolly have entire divisions just for trashing SS.  The msm actually drug one of these think tank “economists” out of the shadows to blather on about the economy a week or so ago.</p>
<p>Sure wish F1 was webstreamed.  I’d even pay for that.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/31/social-security-more-sound-and-fury-still-signifying-nothing/#comment-1869806</link>
		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Spending isn’t the problem so much as how little we get back for it, from return-less bail-outs to big banks, to overpriced, no questions asked defense contracts and outsourcing with abandon.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Government is a player; it deserves an effective voice.  Republicans want to treat it as a personal piggy bank, Democrats like a jobs bank for those on Capitol Hill.  Neither works well or meets the needs of constituents outside the Beltway or Wall Street.  Please, Mr. Obama, run your government as effectively as you speak.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spending isn’t the problem so much as how little we get back for it, from return-less bail-outs to big banks, to overpriced, no questions asked defense contracts and outsourcing with abandon.  </p>
<p>Government is a player; it deserves an effective voice.  Republicans want to treat it as a personal piggy bank, Democrats like a jobs bank for those on Capitol Hill.  Neither works well or meets the needs of constituents outside the Beltway or Wall Street.  Please, Mr. Obama, run your government as effectively as you speak.</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/31/social-security-more-sound-and-fury-still-signifying-nothing/#comment-1869801</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think the GOP has a dream of what would happen to stocks people like them own now if Social Security was invested in the market.&lt;br /&gt;
    All that new cash flooding in would goose the market for awhile the GOP loves bubble surfing.&lt;br /&gt;
Tech Bubble, Housing Bubble and now the proposed Social Security bubble &lt;strong&gt;they have learned nothing.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the GOP has a dream of what would happen to stocks people like them own now if Social Security was invested in the market.<br />
    All that new cash flooding in would goose the market for awhile the GOP loves bubble surfing.<br />
Tech Bubble, Housing Bubble and now the proposed Social Security bubble <strong>they have learned nothing.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/31/social-security-more-sound-and-fury-still-signifying-nothing/#comment-1869798</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes but are those numbers factored in to this study is the question?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes but are those numbers factored in to this study is the question?</p>
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		<title>By: ThingsComeUndone</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/31/social-security-more-sound-and-fury-still-signifying-nothing/#comment-1869797</link>
		<dc:creator>ThingsComeUndone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fine lets accept what they say is true. Then lets ask the American people if they want to spend their money on fighting 2 wars or Social Security?&lt;br /&gt;
     Do they want Military Spending on Star Wars or for Grand Dad with the adult Diapers to leave the home and move in with them?&lt;br /&gt;
      Every cut in Social Security makes the idea of Complete 100% coverage National Healthcare stronger after all if we cut Social Security in the economy just how will old folks afford the stuff not covered.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine lets accept what they say is true. Then lets ask the American people if they want to spend their money on fighting 2 wars or Social Security?<br />
     Do they want Military Spending on Star Wars or for Grand Dad with the adult Diapers to leave the home and move in with them?<br />
      Every cut in Social Security makes the idea of Complete 100% coverage National Healthcare stronger after all if we cut Social Security in the economy just how will old folks afford the stuff not covered.</p>
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		<title>By: Badwater</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/31/social-security-more-sound-and-fury-still-signifying-nothing/#comment-1869796</link>
		<dc:creator>Badwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For Republics, Cheney’s statement about Reagan and deficits only holds true so long as a Republic is President.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Republics, Cheney’s statement about Reagan and deficits only holds true so long as a Republic is President.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily68</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/31/social-security-more-sound-and-fury-still-signifying-nothing/#comment-1869795</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 21:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With the stock market meltdown and many people’s homes declining in value, surely there are some workers who are postponing retirement. Doesn’t this help the Social Security trust fund?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the stock market meltdown and many people’s homes declining in value, surely there are some workers who are postponing retirement. Doesn’t this help the Social Security trust fund?</p>
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