Let me start by saying that I approve of Obama’s decision to force the hands of GM bond holders. They have been refusing to settle with GM, hoping that the government will back down and pay them off at a higher value. If GM goes bankrupt, they get nothing.
History: they don’t want to settle because of the precedent set with Pimco and GMAC.
When Bill Gross snaps his fingers, the Fed jumps. He’s the head of Pimco, the world’s largest and most influential bond investment house. Gross made money betting that the government would come in and rescue GMAC. When other bond holders were willing to swap debt for equity at 60 cents on the dollar, which allowed GMAC to become a bank and qualify for TARP money, Pimco pulled out. Pimco’s holdings rose as much as 83 percent, to 80.5 cents on the dollar. The other bond holders were quite righteously pissed.
Gross also made money betting that Fannie and Freddie would get bailed out. He basically went on CNBC and threatened the government:
On Sept. 7, three days after Gross’s CNBC appearance, the government placed Fannie and Freddie under conservatorship. That move trashed Fannie and Freddie’s common and preferred equity but provided a huge boost to their bonds – and to Pimco. The Total Return fund jumped 1.3%, or $1.7 billion.
Well, money managers often make statements that would help their investments. But a number of critics contend that Gross was giving the government an ultimatum. "He convinced the Treasury to keep his bonds from going to zero, or else he would stop lending money to distressed companies that were important to the economy," Cohan says. The U.S. government will need to raise lots of capital to fuel efforts to end the recession. That will mean issuing lots of bonds. Since Pimco is one of the few buyers capable of absorbing such vast amounts, Washington "can’t afford to let him walk away," says Cohan. "The government should recognize that just as some institutions are too big to fail, Pimco is too big to talk its book," says Rosner. He thinks that the government should have clipped bondholders as well as shareholders when it took over Fannie and Freddie.
Gross resigned from the GM bondholder negotiating committee in January, after Pimco reneged on their agreement to join the GMAC debt swap. GM bondholers are now saying that they want the government to secure the securities that bondholders get in the debt swap.
It’s notable that Alan Greenspan went to work as a consultant for Pimco after he left the Fed. Pimco recently said that the government needed to double its balance sheet in order to replace the amount of wealth destroyed in global financial crisis. Tell it to the Chinese, who are "worried" that in doing so, the US will drive down the value of its Treasury notes.
GM’s bonds tumbled this morning, and their credit default swaps were up. But there’s a giant game of chicken going on now between the government and bondholders, who are betting that the fallout of a bankruptcy would be worse for the government than paying them off.
It’s great to see the administration getting tough with auto industry, forcing Rick Waggonner from GM’s helm and demanding that they break their contracts with bond holders. We can only hope that this new forcefulness will manifest itself when dealing with the "too big to fail banks" now taking enormous risks with taxpayer money because there is no downside.
Good to know that we are evidently no longer hung up on being "a nation of laws" (Larry Summers) who can’t run a business from Washington DC.
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It’s only a car company. It’s not like they’re important like Citibank. They just make stuff, how boring.
By taking this route with GM, Obama is setting himself up for much more heat vis a vis his kid glove treatment of the Big Bankers.
If he doesn’t apply an even and equitable hand to the banks as he did with GM, then I predict his approval ratings will start to plummet. He is now officially on thin ice and the Michigan Congress persons are calling him out on it.
Bullsye, as per usual.
You’re writing the stump speeches for liberal progressive candidates gearing up for primaries.
Agree.
On a related note…at Naked Capitalism was a comment from one “Swedish Lex” that wondered if there wasn’t an ulterior motive behind the Obama bailout of big finance. Basically, what he posited was that by not liquidating the banks, Obama keeps them HUGE and powerful, but also directly or indirectly under his control. The point of this being to hold big finance as a “tool” to continue having big US influence around the world.
If the big banks are tanked and reduced in size, then they cannot serve as a “weapon” or tool to exert influence.
In any case, though it was an interesting thought, I am opposed and would rather lose the influence and gain the fairness and full-on democracy back. Whether or not the plan is flat-out cronyism (as it appears) or a plan to hold onto some economic weapons of influence, it sucks rocks hard and sets up a defacto obvious oligarchy in place of a government of, for, and by the people.
It’s the age of the political non sequitur.
The financial masters of the universe won’t be happy until we have covered every penny of their shitty investments while we sing for our supper.
It seems like a special kind of corruption and business as usual with these folks. Even when making public statements they appear to be speaking in a code, thinly veiled threat or not, but code. The governor of MI comes out calling her big contributor a “scapegoat” and that seems an unambiguous answer to the coded message.
Mike Moore is right about Detroit and by extension, Michigan. The state appears to be owned by the auto companies. Obama seems willing to crush all the life out of Michigan by closing GM instead of taking it over, and forcing Chrysler to accept FIAT’s offer. He sells a state to the highest remaining bidders, and seems not to do a thing to the institutions that create paper that seems to have magical power, now found to be worthless.
When do you cut and run and protect the people instead of the interests? Banks are not lending money. What happened to that great solution? It appears to be a joke to which we are the subject, and things turn out bad in the final analysis.
Does it make any sense for liberals/progressives to try and “claw back” some of Pimco’s gains for the taxpayers?
Yeah, that whole “nation of laws” with “unbreakable contracts” last, what, two weeks? I wish I had a job like Larry Summers, where I could be wrong all the time.
I really want the administration to make the auto industry a linchpin in its brave green future — in Jane’s world, we announce a plan to get off of oil in 10 years and switch our priorities from spending on defense to spending on innovation. We stop looking at automobile manufacturers to make a “profit” because they never truly can except by false measures — the cost of running a nation on oil has never been reflected in the price of a vehicle.
And maybe they will manage to do this after they make a settlement with bond holders. I haven’t seen that kind of precedent standing up to the GOP, since it would mean defying the right wing frame of “financially viable” that they’ve been cowtowing to. But who knows, maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprise.
PIMCO’s parent is Allianz-Germany’s largest insurer and another company used to snapping it’s fingers and having it’s Govt jump.
Besides pushing for much greener cars, they should also be pushed to re-configure to be able to actually manufacture light rail and high-speed rail engines and passenger cars. Right now, you have to obtain all that out of country. There is no domestic makers of such things.
Their investments are worthless if we a squeezed so hard that we cannot pay interest.
All their behavior does if they are too ruthless is to kill the Goose. Once we are singing (or begging), they have no more leverage.
It’s fear of loss that keeps the great majority in line. I decided a few years ago that I don’t care if I live under a subway bridge, because I’ll have much company. Making the decision about the ultimate loss is liberating. Now I don’t live in fear.
If it all falls apart I’ll go live on the beach im Mozambique. Warm, has water & food, and can teach english for food.
The only tool I know of among the dramatis personae is the U.S. government.
Obama calls for concessions from all parties, including UAW workers. So tens of thousands of blue collar workers get hurt. Meanwhile, Geithner fought to keep bonuses for the AIG “employees” who destroyed the company.
I guess if you make stuff in this country you get screwed. But if you’re a risky gambler you get to keep your millions of dollars in “bonus” money.
I still hate these people.
New post up top…
That’s a bit weak isn’t it? “I still hate these people”?
Me? I absolutely loath them, top to bottom, side to side. I wish nothing but ill for them.
They have, literally, wrecked the entire world and they are being rewarded for doing so by the Obama Administration.
The bond issue is a lot stronger than the bonus issue (which, incentives aside, is numerically insignificant).
I have to say, that if Obama wanted to play chicken with the bondholders…. Isn’t it a little late?
Ding.
The things they so fear to lose are just that, things. Many would throw a family member under the bus rather than give up some “treasured” possession. Yeah, I know, cynical much?
Jane @ 12. Well said.
Back to the cesspool.
Namaste
The rich get richer and the rest of us, the actual worker bees, get fucked. The United Corporate States of America. What is good for the rich is good for the country. So sayth the rethuglicians.
The rethugs, the potty of NO, continue to be totally on the side of the rich. To them the working poor are just a bunch of lazy bastards because they only work 2 or 3 full time jobs at minimum wage-which the rethugs wish was back at $1 per hour.
What is left of the middle class, after 8 years of rethuglicism and bush, is rapidly going into the toilet because so many bought into the rethug corporate idea that we could borrow our way into riches.
The donald(trump) filing for bankruptcy once more, is a good example. Goes bankrupt with other peoples money while keeping his own money safe. Typical of rethug congresspersons thinking. Take bribes that they made legal, spend other peoples money, borrow like crazy to support 2 wars and massive tax cuts, and then when they are kicked to the curb, out of power, blame the dems for everything. And the MSM goes along with it. And yet the entire MSM still does not understand why they are losing money and viewers/readers.
Hopefully the people are starting to wake up and realize just what the rethugs actually did while in power and will never allow those crooks to gain power again. 1994-2006 rethug congress majority. 2001 to 2009, rethug prez. The neocons gain power and do their best to destroy the constitution. Have we learned the lesson? 1-rethug pols can not be trusted to act for the country, they act only for themselves.
2-legal bribery in congress is the fault of both parties, but the rethugs know how to use it more than the hapless dems
3-K street lobbyists-hereafter known as bagmen-continue to flourish, the dems are just as ready to stuff money in their pockets as the rethugs were.
4-we the people would much rather sit on our duffs and do nothing then bitch because the govt did nothing to bail us out of our own mistakes
5-the 21st century will be the century of China/India. Americas time in the sun, from 1940-2000 is over. Sure, we will attempt to say that we are still #1 but we are only #1 in military toys and in being a bully.
6-we are the most wasteful people on the planet.
We are also damn near the most arrogent people on the planet. Saying that we must continue to watch over the wogs(arabs) because they are as children and need adult supervision.
7-We are now attempting to replace England of the 19th century as the worlds overlord. Won’t happen, but due to our military, we will try.
Finally 8-Some of our generals seem to want a long war. A low grade war in which our high tech toys(see the military industrial complex) are useless and the “American way of War” can not and will not work.
What is the “American way of war” you ask? 1-use our manufacturing base to out produce war toys, 2-use an anvil when a hammer will do and use a hammer when a kind word will do. 3-always recon by fire. 4-call in A/C bomber strikes and artillery at the first sign of resistance. 5-insure that the combat tail is over 25 to 1. That is that it takes at least 25 support troops to keep one combat infantry troop in the field. 6-attempt to substitute high tech war toys for thinking and planning. 7-when caught in a morass due to bad policy by the civ leadership always blame everything on the generals. 8-allow the generals to lick the boots of the civ leadership and never ever state their opinion 9-when a rethug prez starts a war, always blame everything on the dem prez who has to clean up the mess. Thus endeth the rant
Since he has been in office, Obama has really not done more than a very few things that I felt were worthwhile. He is really turning into wIII and I fear that by the time he is finished his first four years, the neocons will see that he really is one of theirs and we will be running down the road to below 3rd world status. He speaks well, but every time it is decision time the little guy has to take it on the chin. The changes in the tax laws haven’t happened yet, and I don’t expect much from them.
“and we will be running down the road to below 3rd world status.” ; we’re already there.
Thanks.
So wall street executives get hundreds of millions in tax payer funded bonuses — because we cannot break a contract — but UAW workers have to give up wages, benefits, and pensions — because those contracts are impeding recovery. That’s some serious bullshit.
When are people going to stop living in “Denial”? Obi One and the democrats are not going to change anything. the unions will still continue to lose membership, the bill to make it easier to vote for a union will be defeated and the Democrats will blame the obstuctionist Repugs, nothing will happen to prosecute the Bush/Cheney cabal and meanwhile the biggest heist in history will continue. The “Elitists” will win and we will be back to the Fuedal systerm once more. Oh, they will say all the correct things, like get more education, get retrained, we are going to save the American auto industr, while at the same time they are closing all the plants and laying off hundreds of thousands. My friends these jobs are not coming back. Who will be able to afford a college education anymore? The only people who can afford a college education now are the Elitists.
anyone here, or anywhere notice that spain has initiated criminal proceedings against some top american bush administration officials?
considering that people have been screaming for this for years, it’s wierd how silent they are when someone does it.
Part of the plan Obama has. Remember, we have to be mad, and MAKE HIM DO IT!
This certainly, makes us mad. Don’t it. ;-)
I’d guess that this has been posted, but to revisit it, here’s Bill Moyers with William Greider from Friday:
Unholy Alliances, All.
Not that the linky is related DIRECTLY to GM thread topics, but, it’s related to a good man doing good interviews even if the guest IS shilling a book.
Linky is also related to Greider’s opinions of how corrupt, and how deep the corruption goes, WRT our econ sitch.
I mean, if we the sheeple didn’t get it between Milken/Drexler and now, will we EVER get it?
/preachingtochoir
Change sure as shit is slow, ain’t it . . . we have to MAKE him do it, just like the people did with FDR.
That IS clear, to all, by now, yes? So we need more of the sheeple to speak, and we all need to speak louder.
And. Make. Him. Do. It.
May I Suggest A New Way Forward?
Thank you for marking your calendars.
That concludes this harumph. ;-)
Well said. The oligarchy not as a competing element, but as THE element.
And that’s a bad bet for Obama to make.
We wield influence by our ability to be a part of it all, not by sending in troops, or controlling the money supply.
Well, we DO influence with weapons and troops, and we DO influence by controlling or manipulating the money supply (IMF, World Bank), but it’s not a GOOD influence.
Is Obama continuing the old ways? Propping up the oligarchs? Or is he stabilizing things in order to bring about change? Is he igniting the masses on purpose, by denying the desire for change in the systems?
Who the flock knows? Stay tuned, it ain’t over yet, and it’s too early to call.
Worry over, yes, but too early to call . . . is Obama the new FDR, or the Old Reagan?
Too soon to call, never too early to worry and speak up loud.
Thanks to FDL and all who do use ‘teh voices’.
Here’s hoping.
Jane, thanks for pulling together the Pimco material. With the profusion of current events in general plus their tendency to remain quiet unless making a move, it’s possible to forget that they’re such critical and self-motivated players.