Comes now James K. Galbraith’s “No Return to Normal,” which might well be the most important primer for understanding how this nation should and should not be responding to the world economic crisis. Suffice it to say that Professor Galbraith—he holds the Lloyd M. Bentsen, Jr. Chair in Government at the University of Texas at Austin—is largely in agreement with the, by now, well-known views of Nobel economics prize laureate and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman. Both see the crisis as larger and more systemic—and in need of a vastly larger and more systematic response on the part of government (Think: New Deal II)—than is remotely suggested by anything Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has said in public so far. Indeed, judged by Galbraith’s really quite shocking reading of affairs, the current situation—not to say the greater, impending crisis—seems to be beyond the capacity of Geithner and his fellow Rubinites’ understanding.
On the one hand the Rubinites—and, apparently, Federal Reserve Chairman Bernanke—believe the trough of the “recession,” as they still deem it, could be forded by the end of 2009. Geithner, in particular, seems to think that if only we can bail out the banks by ridding them of their toxic waste, we can right the system. On the other hand, Galbraith—and Krugman as well—see this as an attempt to bail out the bankers themselves, while stiffing the public with billions—if not trillions—in obligations that will never remotely be worth what we have paid.
Meantime, it is as though, faced with a very long, hard and demanding swim up-current, we merely tread water, praying for some deus ex machina to suddenly appear and save us. This, I fear, is at the heart of the Geithner way.
Galbraith’s vision is frightening in its candor, all the more so since it suggests that the administration is in the gravest possible danger of being seen as the lapdog of Wall Street.
It does not have to be this way.
As I reminded readers in my Saturday post, Franklin D. Roosevelt did not come into office with the New Deal in hand. He was himself considered to be fairly conservative—a Hudson Valley aristocrat—and some of his early-day advisors were surely conservative. But neither was he unbending in his view of how to respond to the Depression. Roosevelt was, for better or worse, one of the most flexible of politicians. And he had the good sense to surround himself with clever White House aides like Harry Hopkins and a handful of very strong cabinet members, among them Harold Ickes, beginning at the Public Works Administration (the celebrated New Deal “alphabet soup” agency known as the WPA) and then at Interior, and Frances Perkins, the first female cabinet secretary, at Labor.
When Roosevelt’s initial choice for Treasury Secretary (a Republican) proved unsympathetic to the New Deal, ill health soon helped shepherd him off the cabinet. His replacement, Henry Morgenthau, lasted successfully into the Truman administration. In contrast, the conservative Texas banker-businessman Jesse Jones found himself seduced by the Roosevelt charm and, no doubt too, by proximity to power. Jones, despite his innate conservatism, presided ably over the vital Reconstruction Finance Corporation (RFC) throughout the Depression.
It helped that the Roosevelt administration had a fairly clear notion as to what the problems were and how they had arisen. Not so, apparently, the current administration.
President Obama seems determined not to “look backwards,” whether it be into the murky depths of the Terror Machinery of the Cheney years or into the origins of the current economic crisis, even though most of us are convinced that such an examination would unveil criminality of the first order in both cases. No, no: Better not to see. Better not to prosecute. Just get on with it.
Roosevelt had no such serious qualms, and even as the first New Deal Congress churned out reams of progressive legislation, it also did not fail to look backwards. Indeed, as Ron Chernow has detailed in his House of Morgan, the country had been transfixed during the last year of the Hoover administration by the so-called “Pecora Committee” hearings into how the Wall Street barons of the Twenties—not least among them one of the predecessors to today’s J.P. Morgan Chase, J.P. Morgan & Co.—had manipulated the markets.
But we forget that in 1893, another Democratic president, facing another grave economic crisis, behaved differently. That was President Grover Cleveland. Like Roosevelt and like Obama, Cleveland in effect inherited an economic crisis followed by a severe recession. When the Panic of 1893 struck and a depression followed, the former Buffalo mayor, New York governor and conservative Democratic president now into his non-consecutive second term (1893-1897) turned to Wall Street for counsel.
The voices on the Street advised Cleveland to hew hard to the gold standard, a move reminiscent of the later Hoover Days. In the end, Cleveland convinced a handful of Democrats to join with the Republicans to repeal free coinage of silver later that year.
The plan failed miserably. By 1895, the Treasury was virtually out of gold, and Cleveland turned supplicant to the Morgan forces. With no Federal Reserve in existence, Cleveland was forced to go hat in hand to J. Pierpont Morgan. The crusty banker, in turn, formed a private Wall Street syndicate that lent the Treasury $65 million in gold (or approximately $2 billion in today’s dollars). The terms of the loan—half of which came from European sources—soured the agrarian, liberal wing of the Democratic party on Cleveland and led to the nomination of William Jennings Bryan as the party’s 1896 candidate for president.
The Republicans, in turn, nominated for president the truly conservative Ohio governor and former Congressman William McKinley, whose campaign was bankrolled by Big Business and orchestrated by the plutocratic string-puller Mark Hanna. Like Warren Harding’s 1920 campaign and much like George W. Bush’s 2000 campaign, McKinley ran from his front porch, doling out business-friendly bromides. No wonder the pasty-faced McKinley and his oily campaign manager Hanna served as role models for Karl Rove.
But for an assassin’s bullet, it’s hard to imagine that there would ever have been a President Theodore Roosevelt—“that damned cowboy,” Hanna called him, the accidental last liberal Republican president—for McKinley was the emblem of Social Darwinism triumphant, the political face of the Gilded Age.
And thus it was that after Cleveland’s second term ended in 1897, the Democrats—tarred on the one hand by their conservative president’s response to the Panic and on the other by the Free Silver platform of Bryan—did not occupy the White House until 1913 and the coming of Woodrow Wilson.
Sixteen years is a long time in the wilderness.
Is this the historical analogy we really want to replicate?



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Dear Readers,
Please note that the post should have ended with the line:
Is this the historical analogy we really want to replicate?
My post was long, but not this long!
JA
Apologies! My mistake.
I can be hazardous with an edit button.
After getting mugged with the gooper S and L travesty, and watching them pillage the treasury of the US, turn Wall St into a rigged casino, I am firmly aligned with the “burn it down and jail ‘em all” school.
Moi aussi.
It’s one of the great hazards of the Digital Age.
Appreciate the history review, and nice to see you writing here again.
Many thanks. Honored to be joining you today.
Obama’s use of history is cynically selective. Lincoln has been extremely useful to Obama. MLK has also been used heavily. The more recent stuff, not so much.
When Obama doesn’t want to see, know, or hear about very recent history, he is just as stubborn, obstinate, and “intellectually incurious” as Bush was. His head-hiding is turning friends into non-friends.
I choose not to bow.
I’ve applied for a job, which pays far less than what I made before I was laid off. But, it’s full-time and has benefits. It’s at a bookstore, so the venue could be a lot worse.
If they offer me the position, I will accept and be grateful.
But, I will not bow.
I’m not ready to go that far. But I am troubled.
The lead editorial in the Times today got it right: We never presumed that Obama would do everything that we–his friends–imagined (rather, prayed) he would do, but we also “did not expect that Mr. Obama . . . would be sending such confused and mixed signals from the White House.” The Times was referring to “Mr. Obama and the Rule of Law,” but the reference could well be to his economic policies.
Is this the historical analogy we really want to replicate?
Can I point out, that at the time of his election, Hoover was going from strength to strength on the basis of Coolidge’s (then seen as) successful Presidency. The crisis occurred just a few months after he got inaugurated. and he exhorted the country to spend, the businessmen to invest and the states to move up their infrastructure projects. Didn’t work.
We could also invoke the shade of Martin van Buren, who was saddled with the results of Jackson’s anti-central bank policies, which resulted in the Panic of 1837 and the long (seven years!) agricultural depression that followed. (The Whig won in 1840.)
Right now, I am far more worried about the example of James Buchanan.
max
[’If you think about it, they had to sit still through four years of Buchanan; no wonder they had a war.’]
I agree with much of what both Krugman and Galbraith have been saying recently but many of us here have been saying similar things for at least as long and sometimes longer than they have.
This is not the Geithner way. Geithner basically believes that the financial system is structurally sound but just needs money to get itself going again and this is what he is doing. He is throwing huge sums of money at it. There is of course an inherent contradiction here. If financial institutions truly were sound they wouldn’t need such large amounts of money to survive. This is what Geithner isn’t seeing but then neither has Paulson, Summers, Bernanke, Obama, or Bush.
I listened a little to some of the Sunday talk shows today. If our political and media elites were talking about the NCAA basketball tournament in the same way they talk about our financial crisis, they would all be agreeing that the international teams have the advantage this year because they have shown an ability to score touchdowns in the final innings when they are really needed.
Things are somewhat different now than they were in the GD. Additionally, there are pulls in totally different directions. People are concerned about job losses and the declining economy yet when looking at wall street when a company announces huge layoffs their stock goes up in value because that is interpreted as leading to more profitability. Monthly announcements of job losses have little to no impact. This appears to me very symptomatic of class warfare not a country that is going to pull together to get out of this mess.
I’m really interested in the AIG backstory involving connections with the Intelligence Community™, offshore reinsurers that were not independent, gun running, and so on. It doesn’t seem to be your garden variety insurance agency. It has been under investigation for quite questionable practices for donkey years, it seems.
It all comes down to achieving the level of transparency that has been sought here till now.
Yes, poor dear Jim Buchanan. I used to think he was the worst. W has pushed him aside, at least in my book.
Fair point, Hugh. And well said vis a vis the inherent contradiction.
Tell us more about Buchanan please.
Hugh, you have mixed up your sports analogies. Touchdowns in late innings? International teams in the NCAA? This suggests to me that you don’t really understand sports that well.
“…they have shown an ability to score touchdowns with a TKO doing laps on the pommel horse in the final innings when they are really needed….”
Fixed it for you…
You could do no better than read the late Yale historian David M. Potter’s magnum opus–the summing up of a lifetime studying the “Coming of the Civil War.” It’s entitled, “The Impending Crisis,” and it is still, in my opinion, the best and fairest history of the period, 1848-1861.
In an earlier life, I was a student of Potter’s successor at Yale, the great historian of Populism and the “New South,” C. Vann Woodward. My first term paper for Woodward way back yonder in the fall of 1976 was on “The Coming of the Civil War,” and, god knows, I think I read everything there was to read on the subject, from Allen Nevins (who is, if memory serves me right, Jane Mayer’s grandfather), to Wesley Craven to Potter. But that’s an excursion for another day.
alank @ 14;
You can go over to a site called Komisar Scoop——LOTS of info–she’s been tracking AIG and BCCI for YEARS.The best ,imho.
Also,here’s a few others:
Envoy Richard Holbrooke Served On AIG’s Board Mar 19, 2009 … FTW exposed Greenberg’s and AIG’s long connection to CIA drug trafficking and covert operations in a two-part series that was interrupted …
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wi…..holbrooke/ – 186k – Cached – Similar pages
Jim Rogers: Let AIG Go Bankrupt, Not America – Business, Finance … I’ve always found this interesting too regarding AIG/CIA connections. It’s a bit lengthy but interesting SPECIAL REPORTS Last Updated: Sep …
http://www.city-data.com/forum/busine…..upt-4.html – 133k – Cached – Similar pages
Digg – AIG, CIA & Drug Running – Exposed in 2001 FTW has also conducted an extensive investigation into AIG and its predecessors, … These connections include documented CIA operatives connected to drug …
digg.com/politics/AIG_CIA_Drug_Running_Exposed_in_2001 – 38k – Cached – Similar pages
Daily Kos: Outraged over AIG bonuses? Wait Utill You Read This Mar 19, 2009 … All this outrage over AIG Bonuses seems a little petty to me. … These connections include documented CIA operatives connected to drug …
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/3/19/214758/779 – 23k – Cached – Similar pages
Democracy Now! | Excerpts and Analysis of Senate Hearing on … The U.S. public now owns 80 percent of AIG. The outrage is bipartisan. … Excerpts and Analysis of Senate Hearing on Possible CIA Connection with Cocaine …
http://www.democracynow.org/1996/11/2…..hearing_on – 36k – Cached – Similar pages
Seems ironic to me that all the wall streeters are jumping up and down in unison saying that their zillion dollar paychecks are sacrosanct because they are so important in the grand scheme of things and that the new guys in DC who earn a max of $400K should have fixed their mess in the past two months.
A safety net has to be created for the economic decade we are in. The “survival gear” that will enable our population to weather the economic storm.
That should be step one. Putting all our treasury capital on the gaming tables of wall street, without oversight transparancy, reregulation and accountability will not work.
Confidence cannot be restored unless the balance sheets of those institutions are made public…it is after all our kids money that Obama is donating. Charity for the rich and poverty for the poor is reganomics…that is what Geithner/Summers are supporting. It will create massive homelessness and hunger. Who cares in their club…we are the great unwashed.
just a quick driveby…. hugh’s comment @11 reminded me of a geithner speech i listened to last november. he gave it at the cfr in jan 2007. here are a couple of bits i posted from it then:
we really don’t have to guess about obama’s economics team – there is a rich historical record of their words and their actions. that record is filled with a blind fundamentalist belief in a failed ideology and worse, with the death and suffering of millions of people.
note: iirc, the doha round was supposed to include further financial services deregulation.
“That should be step one. Putting all our treasury capital on the gaming tables of wall street, without oversight transparancy, reregulation and accountability will
not workturn into an unmitigated disaster – in more ways than can now even be contemplated.”Fixed it for you.
It is too early for wine. So I had french toast.
More stable, more resilient. Right. Just exactly how it all panned out, eh?
I would vastly prefer saying something about how we’re being rather too hard on Geithner and Summers and their policies. I’d very much like to say: Give them time, let them find their sea legs. Give them a chance.
And, indeed, various friends, including friends here at FDL, have counseled patience. Two months isn’t much time in office. And, in anything like normal circumstances, I would agree.
But we are not in ordinary times.
Like Krugman, I greatly fear that Obama & Friends will soon have shot their arrows. In the hue and cry of a “populist” revolt over the bonuses and now the toxic waste bailout–though many of the loudest voices are by no means “populist” in any real sense–I fear that, having perhaps come to their senses, Obama & Friends won’t have the necessary votes in Congress to get a second stimulus passed.
If it turns out that they pissed away their support over bonuses and bailouts, they will have no one but themselves to blame.
The real problem is that, at that point, we’ll all have long since fallen into the Abyss.
If AIG = CIA, I wonder how much if Summers, etc, were more than encouraged to be President Obama’s team.
When using the words larger and systemic:
A. Are we talking about deregulation that created greed gone wild that then became systemic? Or;
B. Planned systemic approach from white collar greedy minds that pushed for the deregulation to hide their actions? and/or;
C.Criminal minds that have been fighting over the biggest piece of the pie to “take us ” such as a mob war?
D. ?Intel, mob, espionage thriller novel craziness come to life?
I see that the crisis is systemic. I see many connections, but I have yet to nail the foundational common current powering the “power play” of the systemic.
This is not a case of accidentally pushing the wrong button.
We somewhat need to know the depth/source(s) of criminality and the paths to it in order to make the “vastly larger and more systemic response,” work.
The elder cousin of an older friend of mine–he was an English gent in the “fine wine” business, the owner of a very famous chateau in Bordeaux–was once asked if it was true that he drank wine with breakfast. Well, yes.
But, breakfast!
For what possible good reason?
“To see what it has to say to me.”
Good choice!! i was conflicted, there.
You missed the snark tags?
For those who don’t have time to read that work on Buchanan, what would you like us to know about his presidency that relates to the current economic crisis?
That’s good! My wine says “plonk”
I have completely given up on Obama. This one issue, the one addressed in this post, puts him in the “beyond redemption” category. History presented him with an astounding opportunity to restructure the financial system in a way that promotes fairness, morality, and opportunity for all, and he has completely caved to Wall Street and the personal greed of the bankster class, at the expense of the dollar and all our futures.
The president and his good wishes aside, I think we need our own “Pecora Committee,” the sooner the better. I also think such a committee would be warmly welcomed by the American people.
My own guess is that a lot of this good will wishing has to do with Democratic culpability, both in the economic crisis and in the torture and surveillance line. Just as Geithner, Summers and their mutual mentor, Rubin, are all implicated to some extent or other in the current economic crisis, so too are those in the Democratic Congressional leadership who either explicitly agreed to or else nodded and looked away from the Cheney programs of torture and surveillance.
None of which made these Democratic leaders the real instigators–by any means–in either crisis, but it left them vulnerable. Which is, of course, something that Cheney, in particular, well understood.
klynn – ‘C’
That faced with the gravest single crisis in American history–Disunion–Uncle Buck, as he was also known, proved utterly impotent. He did little more than wish the crisis away. It might, indeed, have been the most passive president in our history.
Lincoln was active, first to last. He made mistakes too. Some of them rather big mistakes. (Having the corrupt and incompetent Simon Cameron as his first War Secretary, for example.) But he made mighty efforts to correct those mistakes. Sometimes, plural efforts. McClellan wouldn’t fight, so he gave way to Burnside, who fought and bungled; and so Burnside gave way to Hooker, who also fought and bungled. But then came Grant and Sherman, and with them Sheridan, who fought and won a war and kept the Union whole.
As a doctor friend of mine says, “Life is too short to drink bad wine!”
Bottoms up!
I translate “systemic” when I see it to “recognition that the banks are insolvent.” It seems to work in most contexts.
As for Geithner I wrote this about him in a comment yesterday:
I should point out that AIG and Lehman were happening at the same time.
No matter how I look at this current financial train wreck, I can’t help but to think that those like Summers and Geithner are the wrong people at the wrong time to handle it and as much as Obama would like to look forward, basic issues such as trust, regulation, oversight and what went wrong, when and under who’s authority was this allowed to happen.
The Fed is capable of only one thing now and that is to keep the printing presses rolling our ever worthless dollars. We will have no recovery until the system is reformed and brought back into a sustainable balance. To achieve this end, the banks must be returned to business of banking again, with the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall. The hedge funds must be restrained through fundamental regulatory reform.
A private agency like the Fed is not capable of performing these tasks. The Fed, for all the rhetoric that surrounds it, is a private enterprise owned by the banks. The effectiveness of self-regulation and the rational efficiency of markets are the great myths that have led us to our current crisis.
The Fed as the great regulator for multiple markets is an attractive choice for the government, because when it fails the government may point the finger of blame, and absolve itself of all responsibility for our ruin as they are attempting to do now.
Either make the Fed fully transparent ie: we want to know where all the money has gone and to whom, or have the US Treasury absorb it, so that if something does happen in the future, the American taxpayer will know where to look for answers rather than the multiple players we are dealing with now.
On one hand, I strongly agree with you on the idea of our own Pecora Committee (Commission). Where I hesitate, I am not sure I know who to select to make up such a commission and how the selection process can happen in a way to restore the trust of the citizenry?
Any suggestions?
Thank you so much for joining us here at the Lake and for the wealth of information from your post and comments.
Thanks to Jane, for arranging this superb guest post.
the need for patience i can, to a certain extent, see for obama – he is in a new place with new challenges, and i expect many of those challenges he did not expect.
but the same can not be said of summers and geithner. for them i have no patience whatsoever. none. especially summers – he has helped kill millions of people and shows no sign of remorse, self reflection or change. he should never have been let back into government and he needs to be fired. now. today.
and that gets back to the bit about patience for obama. why is obama relying on summers to run the economics policy? and why should i have patience for that choice? the fact of the matter is that i don’t.
if obama wants a second chance he can fire summers and replace him with stiglitz. until then i’m not going to have more compassion for obama than for the millions who will die and suffer because of the choices obama is now making.
In my haste, I just referred to Uncle Buck Buchanan as “it.” Rather, “He” was the most passive president in our history.
Anyone like to speculate on Worst Presidents Ever? I’d say W, followed by Buchanan, followed by Grant and Harding. Alas, there would be a Democrat amidst the otherwise Republican pack. Coolidge and Hoover probably deserve places somewhere in the Bottom Ten.
That he is so bright and showed so much promise, only to cave to that whole “business as usual” bullshit really makes me wonder…and I’m not even close to being the conspiracy type. What I see here is the makings of a failed presidency that, if not corrected immediately, will usher in an ultra-right wing, ultra-authoritarian presidency in 2012. And as Hugh pointed out a few days back (my apologies for paraphrasing), “that will be the end of the country”.
Yup.
With every passing hour and every new revelation the chances improve that we could have some sort of course correction. Heck it would be enough for ”the plan” to be crippled enough that it ”fails” before we are out of options. The situation is really fluid.
It would be spectacular if the banksters refused to play along becuase they are feel like they are being villified. And the more that is revealed the more Geithner et al will ”side” with the banksters in sympathy with their own.
This isn’t near finished being damaging to those who are supposed to be in control.
Even Obama’s latest charm tour will contribute to the tipping point as it fails. Taping a 60 Minutes interview in this fast-moving environment was a really stupid idea. CNN has an hourlong special on AIG et al playing all this weekend.
We have already seen them adjust based on polls. Just imagine what the next round of polling will look like!!
Oh, and Congress is toast. Their only hope was to tax the bonuses (as bad a plan as that is and as much as that is just a continuation of their failures) and the Senate is not going to go for it. Still what questions will Geithner face on Tuesday. If he shows up.
The public is seeing on a large scale beyond the financial mechanics that we study here that the current plan is to do nothing. And has been for months.
Next up: The return of Elliot Spitzer.
And, thank you too, Jane. But also thank you, klynn, for the kind words.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen John Anderson and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Thank you soooo much for the post Brother Anderson, this ol’ broken down Scandanavian has been sayin for a long toime now that this is indeed a “revolutionary” moment or opportunity to break up the existing oligarchy and their financial laundry which is the existing banking system. Obama is gunna hafta prove to be as smart as we have given him credit to this point, however, and use the AIG bruhaha to cut himself loose from the Clintomnista corporatists who are really workin for the old families of power.
The rock has met the hard spot in so far as the blackmail paid to the theives, we don’t have enough left in the once and future treasury to payoff the bankers to allow us to transition our economy away from financial services for the rich and into 21st century production. Obama’s gotta take over all the large financial holding companies, sell off their assets, cramdown mortgage relief for all mortgage holders who can qualify at reduced rates and current property valuations and institute a complete air-tight security and exchange regulatory structure. In addition, once these huge financial corporations and old rusting industrial corporations have been carved down to size, Obama must get the best and brightest legal minds OUTSIDE of corporate law firms to rewrite anti-trust laws to insure that this transfer of wealth and power never happens again.
I think that Obama has the intelligence to know what he needs to do but it remains to be seen if he has the courage to do it.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THIS IS THE LAST BATTLE FOR OUR DEMOCRACY!!
“I am not sure I know who to select to make up such a commission and how the selection process can happen in a way to restore the trust of the citizenry?”
I’d probably start with Elizabeth Warren. She’s already in the game and has proven herself to be competent, independent and fearless.
That is a solid suggestion. I do think we would need to get a ton of protection around such a person. Both physical protection and policy protection.
Has anyone considered that these people who “broke” the pottery have been placed right back in the china shop PRECISELY to finish off the remaining pottery?
Glenn Smith is upstairs with more on the economy, by way of Pinocchio.
Liz Warren is excellent, but I would like to hear from other voices in a public debate. Geithner, summers and Volcker along with Roubini, Steiglitz and Rogoff. Then let the people decide which way out of the forest would work best. As Ian said last evening all the powers to be are doing is socializing the losses of Wall Street.
Well, Obama certainly has the intelligence–and the eloquence to go with it. Let’s hope.
Believe me: I am not among those who have already given up hope. I supported the man, I voted for him, and I still have great hopes for him.
But the dire nature of the economic crisis–and the response of the Rubinites to the crisis (More money! More money! More money for the poor, dear bankers!)–has me flummoxed.
Obama was such a sure politician on the stump that I keep shaking my head and asking myself and my friends: Whatever is he thinking?
There were so many other, exceptionally smart Democratic economists Obama could have turned to for, if nothing else, corrective advice: James Galbraith, Joseph Stiglitz, Paul Krugman, etc etc etc. Why these guys? And with all the bad, bad baggage they all three are carrying?
It does try the soul.
Welcome John Anderson ! -
Bingo on Pecora Commission -
Ferdinand Pecora wrote of his experiences in
Wall Street Under Oath: The Story of Our Modern Money-Changers – (h/t Lambert/corrente)
scroll down and
read his Preface here
Liz Warren is splendid. I quite agree on that score and on the next. Where is the debate within the administration? Is there one? Has Paul Volcker been frozen out?
He was an interesting guy, Pecora.
Definitely. I worry about her right now, actually. Just last night, I listened again to her 03/09/09 interview with Terry Gross. The piece has its moments, for sure.
http://www.npr.org/templates/s…..=101611260
I’ll be very curious to read her next progress report. I’m assuming it will be released in April.
In this, I retain hope Obama will justify the comparisons to Lincoln.
The import of making sure members of a Pecora type Commission/Committee are surrounded by protection (physical/policy-wise) lies in the reality that anyone who makes a challenge on such protections immediately opens themselves up to scrutiny as a player in the mess created.
Warren would have the brains and courage to bring these sorts of individuals to the table. What we’re seeing right now is a bunch of hacks and insiders who are completely invested in maintaining the status quo. Radical problems require radical intervention…and we ain’t gonna get it with the crew running the show right now. What’s more worrying is that if and/or when this plan fails, that will be it. At that point we’re essentially out of options. Right now, there’s still a decent shot.
Just having someone other than the Senators or the House members doing the questioning would be a big help. Some are simply ignorant. Others I get the impression they are cycling into the hearing for a few minutes to ask their questions. So either they haven’t heard that other members have already asked that question 6 times or they don’t care and just want their soundbite showing them asking it.
The current system also allows witnesses to show up completely unprepared. Liddy didn’t know squat about AIGFP. He didn’t know if it had been paying off on naked CDSs. He didn’t say, because no one asked, why AIGFP was paying off in full on them. He didn’t know who was in the unit. He did know that they were the best people because they knew these derivatives but then he said that the people who had been involved in the CDSs had all left. No one brought up all of the connections to Goldman including Liddy’s own. Liddy did mention briefly the $1.6 trillion that AIGFP still had in derivatives but no one asked him much about them.
This last was especially frustrating because masaccio did a related oxdown diary on AIG 10-K report and gave me some of the links to it. And it turned out that the information on those derivative positions was all there. Liddy could have given a 2-5 minute presentation that would have told the committee and the public exactly what was going on at AIGFP but he simply didn’t bother.
BTW TPM has the links to a good history of AIGFP here:
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi…..s_unit.php
It is informative although it sort of leaves out a lot of the warning signs that AIGFP should have picked up on but didn’t.
It would seem that way John. No doubt we need fresh faces and new ideas rather than using the Japanese model and turning our banks into zombie operations on the backs of the tax payer. Obama’s deficit predictions are already falling far short of reality and if the Fed continues in trying to print its way out of this, we will be headed for a hyper inflationary depression. Which brings me to another point. If gold has been considered the only real money mankind has ever stuck with, why does Congress which controls weights and measures state that all of our gold holdings are only worth $42.50 an ounce when the rest of the world says it’s worth nearly $1,000? If the world tomorrow said gold was worth $50,000 and ounce, a lot of debt could be wiped out in the blink of an eye, but it would seem that Congress is bought and paid for by the banks and corporations which would rather maintain the status quo.
you bring up a point commenter Cujo made in the Galbraith thread -
(paraphrasing here) his willingness to hear differing points of view from his advisers was a campaign and post inaugural talking point – now, in this vitally important issue, not so much.
I would even be willing to give him a pass if I thought disagreement was being tamped down for the sake of optics – but the point about Volcker makes that unlikely
Great Post
While FDR had a lot of advantages we do not have–a robust manufacturing sector, a positive trade balance of payments, enough domestic oil to power the country, etc.–WE have one especially huge advantage, FDR. We don’t have to re-invent the wheel. We can see what worked and what did not.
As for who got it right, I wrote my economic magnum opus published in 1992 that barely needs modifications 17 years later. You can check it out here:
http://elegant-technology.com/ETdefBASE.html
I am not a genius–I just didn’t drink the supply-side Kool-Aid.
Yes, Hugh.
And Marcy’s done some of her, as usual, amazing deconstruction work on AIGFP.
Right. Which is another reason I keep scratching my head about the administration’s response.
We do have a model. And we know what worked–and what didn’t work–back then.
We know, very well, for example, that Roosevelt made a terrible mistake in tightening the economic screws too soon, early in second term.
Another history lesson: FDR paid for it too. Big time. In 1938, he lost his super-majorities in the both houses of Congress.
Time for a break.
But not being the owner of a famous Bordeaux chateau–or even a nice little domaine en Bourgogne–I will have to content myself with soup, salad–and coffee.
Thanks for attending the lecture, Pups! You were, as always, a wonderful audience. Cheers!
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Jane,
I know you had the suggestion box up yesterday. I am going to make a suggestion here.
All the guest posts on the economy have been some of the best salons I have read (along with the comments). Could you put up a box on the right (like EW’s timeline reference box) that lists the archives of these posts for all of us to visit and send friends to read? A print option of them would be great too.
In the last two weeks, I have sent more people here since the FISA debate. The resources here have been the filter to the MSM on the economic reality and have played a big role in building a grassroots movement IRT the economy.
I won over a crowd last weekend (all Repugs who watch the typical talking heads) at a local hardware store – just by chance. (It’s a fun story.) I got asked to meet them at the hardware store again today to talk solid economic empowerment of the people.
So, many will come here today to read this post.
Keep up the empowering efforts FDL!
They know what they are up against because “they” engineered the system which has gone out of control. But they also don’t want to panic the public and run the banks. That is their worst nightmare – a banking system which no one trusts anymore.
Hence they are sliding into this not revealing the truth, because they fear the consequences and are trying to incrementally fix the mess.
McKinley was much like George Bush, starting early. He “voluntarily” left his undergraduate college because he had walked a cow to the top of its administration building’s carillon tower. Cows famously refuse to walk down stairs and its fate mirrored the white horse’s in Animal House. A fitting analogy for Mr. Bush, for whom being frat president was his greatest positive accomplishment.
I dearly hope that Mr. Obama has his sights set on finer accomplishments. If so, as Lincoln did with McClellan, he will have to let Mr. Summers and Mr. Geithner go. Or the economy will be his Gettysburg, not his Appomattox.
Sometimes, I think if snark tags are needed, I’m in the wrong place.
This suggests you don’t understand satire well.
AIG is just the latest outbreak of global economic dystrophy, Hugh.
When the masters of the universe can claim plausible deniability, and their minions can plead that they were only following orders, we get a system where accuracy and fact based analysis are enemies of the state.
This toxic form of accountability will persist until enough people declare ENOUGH. No amount of PR about restoring consumer confidence will cure this malaise.
For now, Elizabeth Warren is the only official that I trust in D.C. She’s our voice from the wilderness inside the temple. Watching Frontline’s 2004 expose of the credit card industry, which featured Warren, the next shoe to drop in 2009 was described in excruciating detail. Nothing has changed since then except enactment of the Orwellian Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005.
Obama has a very small window before the next election cycle crashes into the $3 billion a day deficit.
I don’t understand satire? Mister, I
wrotereadtheabookmagazine articleblurbprecis onsatyrssatireor something.Sometimes, life has no laughtrack. You just have to figure it out for yourself.
Yesterday, Frank Rich described this window as Obama’s Katrina Moment.
Just a thought: Gettysburg was a horrific battle on the long road to Appomatox. In the face of today’s systemic threats, can we make the same journey without commensurate economic and social carnage?