Comments on: Propaganda Not Required for Employees to Make “Fully Informed Choice” http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 07:28:48 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Gitcheegumee http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863865 Gitcheegumee Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:47:20 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863865 <p>Here is a link for the most intensive info on EFCA that I have come across. Literally,encyclopedic info,continuously updated.</p> <p>One of the most interesting aspects is the section entitled anti-union network.This is worth a click to the site’s link, alone. WOW! Did I learn a lot about the collusion of Big Business and the likes of union buster Richard Berman. </p> <p>For anyone,of any political persuasion, this ARAW site is the real deal.</p> <p>American Rights at Work - Home American Rights at Work is a nonprofit advocacy organization whose mission is to support workers’ rights to a free choice and a fair chance to join a union.<br /><a href="http://www.americanrightsatwork.org/" rel="nofollow">www.americanrightsatwork.org/</a> - 23k - Cached - Similar pages<br /> Employee Free Choice Act<br /> Contact Us<br /> Our Staff<br /> About Us Employment<br /> Press Releases<br /> Anti-Union Network<br /> Quick Facts<br /> More results from americanrightsatwork.org » </p> <p>American Rights at Work - Employee Free Choice Act American Rights at Work is a nonprofit advocacy organization whose mission is to support workers’ rights to a free choice and a fair chance to join a union. …<br /><a href="http://www.americanrightsatwork.org/employee-free-choice-act/" rel="nofollow">www.americanrightsatwork.org/e.....hoice-act/</a> - 28k - Cached - Similar pages</p> <p>American Rights at Work - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Dec 5, 2008 … American Rights at Work (ARAW) is a U.S. self-described nonpartisan, nonprofit organization that advocates for workers and their right to …<br /> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Rights_at_Work - 24k - Cached - Similar pages</p> Here is a link for the most intensive info on EFCA that I have come across. Literally,encyclopedic info,continuously updated.

One of the most interesting aspects is the section entitled anti-union network.This is worth a click to the site’s link, alone. WOW! Did I learn a lot about the collusion of Big Business and the likes of union buster Richard Berman.

For anyone,of any political persuasion, this ARAW site is the real deal.

American Rights at Work – Home American Rights at Work is a nonprofit advocacy organization whose mission is to support workers’ rights to a free choice and a fair chance to join a union.
http://www.americanrightsatwork.org/ – 23k – Cached – Similar pages
Employee Free Choice Act
Contact Us
Our Staff
About Us Employment
Press Releases
Anti-Union Network
Quick Facts
More results from americanrightsatwork.org »

American Rights at Work – Employee Free Choice Act American Rights at Work is a nonprofit advocacy organization whose mission is to support workers’ rights to a free choice and a fair chance to join a union. …
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American Rights at Work – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Dec 5, 2008 … American Rights at Work (ARAW) is a U.S. self-described nonpartisan, nonprofit organization that advocates for workers and their right to …
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]]> By: PierceNichols http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863830 PierceNichols Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:16:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863830 <p>The secret ballot wasn’t the rule in the US until the end of the 19th century, and its introduction was hotly debated. Therefore, the claim that it’s fundamental to American democracy is suspect. I don’t see how a union organizing commitee could conduct a card-check drive without the employer knowing about it (unless they’re really, really out of it) — they’ll have plenty of time to talk to workers about the topic before the organizers gather enough cards.</p> The secret ballot wasn’t the rule in the US until the end of the 19th century, and its introduction was hotly debated. Therefore, the claim that it’s fundamental to American democracy is suspect. I don’t see how a union organizing commitee could conduct a card-check drive without the employer knowing about it (unless they’re really, really out of it) — they’ll have plenty of time to talk to workers about the topic before the organizers gather enough cards.

]]> By: Gitcheegumee http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863486 Gitcheegumee Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:21:52 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863486 <p>Good Morning:</p> <p>I don’t know if anyone hear watched Rachel Maddow this past Friday evening,but in the tradition of Friday newsdumps,the WSJ,who has beating the tom-toms for it’s corporate masters -FALSELY decrying that EFCA removed the secret ballot(not tru)-did a 180 degree about face,on its editorial page,npo less.</p> <p>This is HUGE,imho, bcause that has been the mantra of the anti-unionista led be CoC and Rick Berman.</p> <p>I’m curious to hear their spin on that 180,for sure!</p> Good Morning:

I don’t know if anyone hear watched Rachel Maddow this past Friday evening,but in the tradition of Friday newsdumps,the WSJ,who has beating the tom-toms for it’s corporate masters -FALSELY decrying that EFCA removed the secret ballot(not tru)-did a 180 degree about face,on its editorial page,npo less.

This is HUGE,imho, bcause that has been the mantra of the anti-unionista led be CoC and Rick Berman.

I’m curious to hear their spin on that 180,for sure!

]]> By: karenjj2 http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863147 karenjj2 Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:25:45 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863147 <p>The Employee Free Choice Act restores the <strong>option</strong> of using a secret ballot <strong>or</strong> using card check for employees that are considering a union. Period.</p> The Employee Free Choice Act restores the option of using a secret ballot or using card check for employees that are considering a union. Period.

]]> By: Eureka Springs http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863141 Eureka Springs Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:14:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863141 <p>I’m sure all these low paid, low or no benefit workers, who never heard of vacation, or usually have to work through it just to survive… are against unions for the good of the company. They just need more corporate information. /s</p> <p>And I am sure flat or falling workers wages while productivity jumps over the last thirty years as unions decline is not a coincidence at all.</p> I’m sure all these low paid, low or no benefit workers, who never heard of vacation, or usually have to work through it just to survive… are against unions for the good of the company. They just need more corporate information. /s

And I am sure flat or falling workers wages while productivity jumps over the last thirty years as unions decline is not a coincidence at all.

]]> By: PJEvans http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863139 PJEvans Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:12:13 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863139 <p>‘elimination of a secret ballot’?<br /> You’re watching too much GOP/business propaganda.<br /> It <strong>doesn’t do that</strong>. Everyone who has read the bill knows that, and has said so, and yet the news guys still haven’t gotten it straight.</p> ‘elimination of a secret ballot’?
You’re watching too much GOP/business propaganda.
It doesn’t do that. Everyone who has read the bill knows that, and has said so, and yet the news guys still haven’t gotten it straight.

]]> By: PJEvans http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863137 PJEvans Mon, 23 Mar 2009 01:09:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863137 <p>The other route on ‘fully informed choice’ is to make sure you have <strong>too much</strong> information, so you can’t tell what’s good and what’s bad. Like trying to figure out the information for choosing health insurance ….</p> The other route on ‘fully informed choice’ is to make sure you have too much information, so you can’t tell what’s good and what’s bad. Like trying to figure out the information for choosing health insurance ….

]]> By: Oilfieldguy http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863132 Oilfieldguy Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:59:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863132 <p>Like in a Caucus for example? The EFCA does not eliminate private ballots, a complete bullshit canard. What is not bullshit is Republicans wanting to maintain a Dictatorship by allowing company owners to dictate wages and benefits and completely opposing the Democratic idea of collective bargaining through unionization.</p> Like in a Caucus for example? The EFCA does not eliminate private ballots, a complete bullshit canard. What is not bullshit is Republicans wanting to maintain a Dictatorship by allowing company owners to dictate wages and benefits and completely opposing the Democratic idea of collective bargaining through unionization.

]]> By: VORE http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863130 VORE Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:54:07 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863130 <blockquote><p>Eh…ignore.</p></blockquote> <p>Oh I see… if someone has an opposing view or isn’t drinking the kool-aid just ignore them. Impressive.</p>

Eh…ignore.

Oh I see… if someone has an opposing view or isn’t drinking the kool-aid just ignore them. Impressive.

]]> By: VORE http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863128 VORE Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:52:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/propaganda-not-required-for-employees-to-make-fully-informed-choice/#comment-1863128 <p>Well it’s obvious you were spouting bullshit… but to your question, my workplace has been voted by its employees as one the best places to work in the state for three consecutive years. Terminating an employee is a serious situation and no one should ever lost their job for advocating unionization.</p> Well it’s obvious you were spouting bullshit… but to your question, my workplace has been voted by its employees as one the best places to work in the state for three consecutive years. Terminating an employee is a serious situation and no one should ever lost their job for advocating unionization.

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