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	<title>Comments on: Pleasure Island Lesson: Don&#8217;t Play With the Bad Guys</title>
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		<title>By: DrZen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/pleasure-island-lesson-dont-play-with-the-bad-guys/#comment-1863365</link>
		<dc:creator>DrZen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It all becomes a lot clearer when you get it straight that Obama is one of the bad guys, not the messiah you hoped he would be.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all becomes a lot clearer when you get it straight that Obama is one of the bad guys, not the messiah you hoped he would be.</p>
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		<title>By: acquarius74</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/pleasure-island-lesson-dont-play-with-the-bad-guys/#comment-1863131</link>
		<dc:creator>acquarius74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here is the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/magazine/chi-mxa0322magazineobamapg6mar22,0,449910.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link to online ChicagoTribuneMagazine article about Obama, the Univ of Chicago,&lt;/a&gt; its grads in his cabinet, and the Chicago School of Economics (de-regulation per Milton Freidman).  I’ve only read 2 pages (some of which disturbs me) but will reserve judgment until I finish it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/features/magazine/chi-mxa0322magazineobamapg6mar22,0,449910.story" rel="nofollow">link to online ChicagoTribuneMagazine article about Obama, the Univ of Chicago,</a> its grads in his cabinet, and the Chicago School of Economics (de-regulation per Milton Freidman).  I’ve only read 2 pages (some of which disturbs me) but will reserve judgment until I finish it.</p>
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		<title>By: acquarius74</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/pleasure-island-lesson-dont-play-with-the-bad-guys/#comment-1863119</link>
		<dc:creator>acquarius74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you for your very disturbing post.  Back when Obama was campaigning I noted the U of Chicago bit but paid no particular attention.  Then when he began picking his cabinet, I noticed that many had been of the U of C crowd or the Chicago political crowd.  Then I noticed that Paulson had spent some time in the Chicago unit of Goldman Sachs.  I must pursue this thread and see where it leads…..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m old enough to remember the Al Capone stories, but was naive enough to think those mobster days were of the past.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ll search your ref and see if I can provide the link.  (learned how myself only a short time ago, thanks to 2 fine people who walked me thru it)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your very disturbing post.  Back when Obama was campaigning I noted the U of Chicago bit but paid no particular attention.  Then when he began picking his cabinet, I noticed that many had been of the U of C crowd or the Chicago political crowd.  Then I noticed that Paulson had spent some time in the Chicago unit of Goldman Sachs.  I must pursue this thread and see where it leads…..</p>
<p>I’m old enough to remember the Al Capone stories, but was naive enough to think those mobster days were of the past.  </p>
<p>I’ll search your ref and see if I can provide the link.  (learned how myself only a short time ago, thanks to 2 fine people who walked me thru it)</p>
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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/pleasure-island-lesson-dont-play-with-the-bad-guys/#comment-1863063</link>
		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It has always struck me as a kind of cosmic irony,on a stupendous scale, that those in positions of power to determine the economic destiny of others, have never been destitute themsleves.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has always struck me as a kind of cosmic irony,on a stupendous scale, that those in positions of power to determine the economic destiny of others, have never been destitute themsleves.</p>
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		<title>By: raven333</title>
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		<dc:creator>raven333</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;As for the rational actor part, even our best economists have only awakened to that error in the last several years.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then why did Keynes talk about “animal spirits?”  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cutting taxes and saving is “common sense” for a good fraction of the US population.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;My point is not to ignore the brilliant advice of the Krugman’s of the world, it is to separate needed expertise from a controlling interest in democracy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wish you’d said that in the first place.  There’s plenty of demagogues willing to step up and tell us why they know best, and they’re dangerous.  Rush Limbaugh is a moderate among these.  In electing Obama, we seem to have more-or-less rejected an authoritarian solution to our problems, but if Obama doesn’t deliver, the authoritarians will be back, and matters could get very bad indeed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>As for the rational actor part, even our best economists have only awakened to that error in the last several years.</p>
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<p>Then why did Keynes talk about “animal spirits?”  </p>
<p>Cutting taxes and saving is “common sense” for a good fraction of the US population.</p>
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<p>My point is not to ignore the brilliant advice of the Krugman’s of the world, it is to separate needed expertise from a controlling interest in democracy.</p>
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<p>I wish you’d said that in the first place.  There’s plenty of demagogues willing to step up and tell us why they know best, and they’re dangerous.  Rush Limbaugh is a moderate among these.  In electing Obama, we seem to have more-or-less rejected an authoritarian solution to our problems, but if Obama doesn’t deliver, the authoritarians will be back, and matters could get very bad indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: DaveBecker</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaveBecker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“I have never believed it takes experts to run an economy.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My heart soared upon reading that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I have never believed it takes experts to run an economy.”</p>
<p>My heart soared upon reading that.</p>
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		<title>By: acquarius74</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/pleasure-island-lesson-dont-play-with-the-bad-guys/#comment-1862994</link>
		<dc:creator>acquarius74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here is link to a 53 minute &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNgfIH5pyxg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;YouTube interview with John K Galbraith,&lt;/a&gt; economist, statesman, writer of more than 20 books and father of James K. Galbraith.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is link to a 53 minute <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNgfIH5pyxg" rel="nofollow">YouTube interview with John K Galbraith,</a> economist, statesman, writer of more than 20 books and father of James K. Galbraith.</p>
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		<title>By: tehcatlady</title>
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		<dc:creator>tehcatlady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 20:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am aware of the two schools of economics; I spent a short time at the University of Chicago school of economics but I could not stomach it.  You should see today’s Chicago Tribune magazine (I would post a link but I am functionally illiterate on the computer) detailing Obama’s ties to the University of Chicago.  I could not read the article, I confess.  The cover shows a drawing of Obama with his UC buddies, Austan Goolsbee and Cass Sunstein.  His University of Chicago connection was enough to raise my suspicions about the Obama candidacy.  Plus, I like the way the media portray him as this distinguished law professor when he was only a part time lecturer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am aware of the two schools of economics; I spent a short time at the University of Chicago school of economics but I could not stomach it.  You should see today’s Chicago Tribune magazine (I would post a link but I am functionally illiterate on the computer) detailing Obama’s ties to the University of Chicago.  I could not read the article, I confess.  The cover shows a drawing of Obama with his UC buddies, Austan Goolsbee and Cass Sunstein.  His University of Chicago connection was enough to raise my suspicions about the Obama candidacy.  Plus, I like the way the media portray him as this distinguished law professor when he was only a part time lecturer.</p>
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		<title>By: Gitcheegumee</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/pleasure-island-lesson-dont-play-with-the-bad-guys/#comment-1862973</link>
		<dc:creator>Gitcheegumee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, but I have nothing to offer on Peolsi. One I SHOULD have gotten around to FIRST,actually. Mea culpa.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My sympathies to you re : Cornyn.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I fear that “real” anything is approaching quixotic as a goal, at this point.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The revelations about the Diebolt machines self-deleting,and the extensive info on Bradblog and Velvet Revolution aboutelectronic vote manipulation {man-in-the-middle]does not bode well,sadly,imho.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I have nothing to offer on Peolsi. One I SHOULD have gotten around to FIRST,actually. Mea culpa.</p>
<p>My sympathies to you re : Cornyn.</p>
<p>I fear that “real” anything is approaching quixotic as a goal, at this point.</p>
<p>The revelations about the Diebolt machines self-deleting,and the extensive info on Bradblog and Velvet Revolution aboutelectronic vote manipulation {man-in-the-middle]does not bode well,sadly,imho.</p>
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		<title>By: acquarius74</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/22/pleasure-island-lesson-dont-play-with-the-bad-guys/#comment-1862964</link>
		<dc:creator>acquarius74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you, Gitcheegumee.  It will take me some time to study your links.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pelosi’s husband is a real estate wheeler-dealer, right?  How did he make out during the Big Bubble?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Been doing some studying of my (ugh) senator Cornyn and his backers.  First among them is CONTRAN, owned by Harold Simmons who dreamed up leveraged buy-outs and is openly termed one of the big corporate raiders.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We need &lt;strong&gt;real&lt;/strong&gt; campaign finance reform in the worst way.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Gitcheegumee.  It will take me some time to study your links.</p>
<p>Pelosi’s husband is a real estate wheeler-dealer, right?  How did he make out during the Big Bubble?  </p>
<p>Been doing some studying of my (ugh) senator Cornyn and his backers.  First among them is CONTRAN, owned by Harold Simmons who dreamed up leveraged buy-outs and is openly termed one of the big corporate raiders.</p>
<p>We need <strong>real</strong> campaign finance reform in the worst way.</p>
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