I chatted with Elijah Cummings briefly yesterday in the hallway at the AIG hearings. He had been the first member in the hearing room, and as others drifted in and out, he was there almost the entire time. I followed him out shortly after Kanjorski dropped the bomb about having known about the AIG bonuses over a month ago, and Liddy confirmed that Ben Bernanke both knew about the bonuses and had approved them. I asked him if Mr. Kanjorski had made him or members of the subcommittee aware of the bonuses at the time.
"I’m not on the subcommittee, I’m a guest today" he said.
I went back and sure enough, he’s not on the subcommittee — he’s not even on the Financial Services committee. Cummings is House Oversight, and I assumed he must have a burning question to ask. As it turns out, he did:
The media has been focused on the $165 million installment of the $450 million retention program for AIG Financial Products Division. However, for months, you and I have been going back and forth overall about the one billion dollars retention program that covers thousands of employees throughout AIG.
Then, as Marcy notes this morning, he blows holes in Liddy’s story that he was only given the "distasteful" task of paying out contracts he would never have approved. From Liddy’s Dec. 5 letter to Cummings:
On September 18, 2008 AIG’s compensation committee of the Board of Directors approved retention payments for 168 employees.
Cummings says that he met with Liddy on January 15, and at that time Liddy admitted that under his tenure, he had expanded the retention bonus program to cover 2100 employees. Cummings asked how many retention bonuses Liddy had approved, and he estimated 4500 to 4700. However, that number didn’t include bonuses agreed to by managers of other divisions. He asked how much money the company had paid in bonuses in 2008 and how much was scheduled to be paid out in 2009, and Liddy said he didn’t know.
Let’s underscore that — Edward Liddy comes to a subcommittee hearing and answers questions by every single member of the subcommittee for hours, called expressly to answer questions about the AIG bonus program, and he’s not prepared to answer a question about how much money they’ve paid out, or how much they will pay out. It is at the very end of the day when Cummings finally gets to ask his questions, and I admit I had to take off and interview Senator Merkley so I wasn’t even there at the time, but as far as I could tell it was the first time that day that anybody had asked that question.
I wrote yesterday about how thoroughly useless and uninformed the committee members and their faux rage were — well, at least those who weren’t giving Liddy a foot massage for being a great patriot working in the service of this country.
But the bottom line is — Massimo Calabresi’s "scoop" in Time Magazine is a sham. The story floated by "an administration official" to Jeff Mason of Reuters, that Geithner didn’t know anything until March 10 was a crock too. (Congratulations Jeff, you’re a reporter who willingly prints lies unless you expose your "anonymous" source). Now Calebresi says that there’s a rift between the Treasury and the Fed, and the Fed is letting us have the goods — Geithner Treasury knew about the bonuses on February 28 (but nobody told poor hapless Geithner).
How convenient. Geithner was lobbying heavily at the time of the stimulus bill conference for the insertion of language that made sure the AIG bonuses got paid out in full, on February 11. Which means that if he was doing so with knowledge of the existence of the bonus contracts, he was trying to make sure they got paid. The "outrage" that caused him to reduce the total by $4.8 million before he approved them was a less than Oscar-worthy performance.
But voila! Now we hear that Geithner Treasury KNEW NOTHING until February 28, which puts him outside the danger zone. Did Calabresi not have a calendar, or did that not seem worthy of mention?
Nor did he include the fact that Elijah Cummings says he knew about the bonuses for "months." Of course, neither do David Cho and Michael D. Shear of the Washington Post, who print the official administration-dictated pushback:
Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner, a central figure in the decision to bail out AIG last fall as president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, said in an interview yesterday that he had not been aware of the size of the bonuses and the timing of the payments.
"I was stunned when I learned how bad this was on Tuesday [March 10]," Geithner said. "I shouldn’t have been in that position, but it’s my responsibility and I accept that."
It’s all just crap, of course. Elijah Cummings knew the details, Paul Kanjorski knew the details, Ben Bernanke knew (and approved) the details. Geithner is either a complete idiot who doesn’t know what’s going on or he’s lying through his teeth.
And no journalist should be writing about this stuff unless they’re willing to sit there and listen to what was said at these hearings. You could fire a cannon through the holes in the story of Calabresi, Cho and Shear. The quality of journalism on display here is truly shameful.
Related posts:
- Dylan Ratigan Upbraids Geithner on AIG Emails, Fannie/Freddie Uncapping
- NY Post Floats JPMorgan Chase’s Dimon to Replace Treasury Sec. Geithner
- Reps. Lynch, Kaptur Rip Geithner on AIG Counter-Party Payments
- Why is Timothy Geithner Rejecting Legislative Policy?
- Geithner, Paulson, Barovsky Headline Today’s AIG Hearings



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Wow, Jane, you have the investigator’s nose!! We need to set you up as congressional reporter full time.
LIARS POKER
his was the only letter?
And no journalist should be writing about this stuff unless they’re willing to sit there and listen to what was said at these hearings. You could fire a cannon through the holes in the story of Calabresi, Cho and Shear. The quality of journalism on display here is truly shameful.
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what else is new
Timmeh knows nothzing! NOTHZING!
Blow that whistle, girl! You are in the right place(s) at the right time(s) to flush out the sh*t, so to speak. Booyah!!
Jane, awesome. I am starting to think that the beltway is not so inaccessible as we have imagined. Get those citizens in there asking some questions, and VOILA! Citizen reporting, citizen oversight, and some transparency in getting the word out.
Keep it coming to us, keep asking the questions. Let’s see who is paying attention, eh?
“I think it was in the range of nine billion dollars.” Liddy’s final answer to Cummings question on the clip shown. (Total bonuses paid in 2008) Too big to arrest, I guess./s
Lying to congress is loyalty to Wall street.
Omitting facts is perjury when under oath. Were they sworn? They need to be.
So it seems we are still waiting for a whistleblower, someone who knows what is and was going on and who’s nose is out of joint because his/her bonus was too small, or wasn’t paid.
From the ever expanding cost of the
cover-up,bail-out, I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that AIG mail-room employees are due $million bonuses.unless its purely informational
EVERYBODY WHO TESTIFYS TO CONGRESS…..needs to be under oath period
Everyone testifying yesterday was sworn in for what it is worth.
Good point
sadlyyes, OT, have you seen the youtube “cat house on the kings?”
Well folks lets spotlight this to KO.
Thanks Jane.
Well done.
Question, do you have bio information on Cassano? I cannot find much.
They were sworn.
no could you post url,muchos grac
What is it worth?
Sorry, but link linkee no workee for me, evah. Just go to youtube and search ‘cat house on the kings.’ will pop up. very cool.
Not much unless you are a baseball player
You could fire a cannon through the holes in the story of Calabresi, Cho and Shear and never hit a fact.
Fixed.
Let’s digg Jane’s great work here.
A.I.G. Uproar Is a Defining Moment for Geithner
By JACKIE CALMES
Questions about why Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner failed to stop the A.I.G. bonuses could threaten President Obama’s economic agenda.
Why is the MSM so far behind you in this huge story? Were they called off like the bogus weapons of mass destruction that gpt us into Iraq War?
The secretary of homeland security said this financial crisis was a much greater threat. Behind this story is a much bigger story of world destabilization and Americans lost half of our wealth and power becuase of the financial bubble these perps are still working. Where is the change in securities law to prevevt further market erosion?
This has cost over $50 trillion in assests.
Love the Cat House, and give ‘em a donation every once in a while. Here’s the direct link:
http://www.cathouseonthekings.com/
last week in their AIG coverage, TPM noted they were using the only publicly available photo of him (and he’s hiding behind a corner in it)
sorry to beat a dead horse, but the fact that he worked for Milken at Drexel should have been everyone’s first clue
I hear you. I just want his history prior to Miliken @ Drexel…
Obama has indicated that they are working on new regulations. Additionally, there are many other countries that want much stronger regulations since, with a global economy, banks in their countries can be threatened. This is supposed to be a major topic at the G-20 meetings coming up.
Giethner is guilty of lying to the POTUS and US Congress. He did not tell Obama who has utmosy confidence in him. Gotta go young man and take the rest of the wrecking crew with you.
Lune, in a guest post at naked capitalism, talks about moves afoot in Congress to override Administration druthers and specifically Geithner’s bailout plans.
The Taxman Cometh, and a Brewing Revolt by Congress?
Rangel has released the text of his proposed [tax the bastards] bill.
Drecel…junk bonds…Orange County bankruptcy….Keating Five…were back in the USSR…the bubble con is on with the bailout trillions. Where are the grownups when you need them?
How convenient for Geithner & Co. that Cummings was shunted to the very end of the day when everyone has turned off the hearing.
Real, proactive reform is never going to happen – the financial industry owns Congress completely.
speaking of knowing ‘nothing’, has anyone considered that the AIGFP bonuses are hush money?
google “Cassano – Deep Capture” and see if anything comes up – only recently discovered them and don’t have time to check it this am
Sounds very bipartisan…That Obama…he got a rally out of Congress.
Congress coming up with all of this before Geithner, gives Obama the open door to wave bye to Geithner.
It would be irresponsible not to speculate. ;)
It just keeps getting worse: 13 firms getting bailout funds owe back taxes, even though they were required to certify that they were paid up.
Brava, Brava Jane !
wow. WaPo twirps write of Geitner/NY Fed in their first line and yet submit this sh* ?!?!?- busy redefining cluelessness they are
Don’t know a heckuvalot about him, but this isn’t the first time I’ve been impressed with Cummings.
Thanks for those important facts…got to watch these slippery dudes…they slipped the AIG bonuses in after the discussion.
By the way, the bonused people were running boiler rooms selling the shitpile to suckers. They are high priced carnies. Only accpuntability with severe penalties will stop this scam. The hedge funds are calling the bets and getting paid with our money that would have otherwise fueled Obama’s economic agenda.
And the bankster lobbyists are pushing back, trying to stop any legislation that would tax their own ill-gotten gains. Aren’t they special!
when someone says they accept responsibility, what does that mean to them. Apparently, it means “I said I am resonsible, so now we can drop the matter”. Then they do absolutely nothing to reconcile their mess. So, when Mr. Geithner says he is responsible for not knowing about the bonuses at an “appropriate” time, he thinks that is enough. Well, it isn’t. If he is responsible for this mess, he needs to resign. This is a mess of momentous proportions and he is responsible, he needs to resign. I think that we should begin a petition to insist that President Obama seek the resignation of both Sec. Geithner and E. advisor Summers. They are deeply involved in this mess, have not been truthful and forthcoming, and they are responsible. They should both resign.
The missing word is “integrity”…never mind transparency. We can’t get the same answer twice from any two people. Universities should grant degrees in finger-pointing. We have gone from, “Who shot John?”, to “Who the hell is John?” Congresional buffoons want us to believe they are really smart until they ask us to accept it when they play dumb. Duplicitous scapegoating.
Outrageous. But I’m not sure that it takes us anywhere. As you and others have pointed out, the bonus issue is a symptom, not an illness in itself.
Instead of lamenting the fact that the bloated body that is AIG (or any of our financial titans) is emitting impolite noises and foul odors during the “resuscitation” process, we need to focus on the fact that the body is, in fact, dead. We need to stop pumping air and fluids through it and bury it decently. Until we do, bad smells and rude noises are the least of our problems.
The ex AIG head in roundtable on Charlie Rose…if you have the time. He siad the trouble started when AIG lost triple A rating and had to cover bets big cash demand that came out if our treasury.
I think Hugh was commenting on that show yesterday also, it really is worth the viewing.
Wow..the hits just keep on coming…tax evasion by the rescued banks? Can it be…Neivity is pervasive with the new administration? Or do we have more back othopedic spine problems?
Yes it’s up at Huffpo, seems they had to sign off on no taxes due, and very possibly legal angles on that. ~ 1/2 those surveyed had back taxes.
The really big financial news of the week are these two items.
First, AIG has $1.6 trillion in derivatives still on its books and it is not clear what these are or how toxic they might be.
The second is that the Fed is injecting another trillion dollars into the financial system:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03…..=1&em
The first of these looks like it is a way to shore up the price of mortgage backed securities in a way that might (but probably won’t) help the value of banks’ crap assets.
The second is being taken in an attempt to free up credit. Because the Fed has already blown its ability to affect short term interest rates (this happens when they go to zero), the only place it has left in this area is to move into longer term rates. I doubt this move will have much of an effect except to further reduce the number of tools the Fed has at its disposal.
The bonus thing is really awful but we need to keep our eyes on the real money – the almost $200 billion that has gone into AIG to accomplish what exactly? As far as I can tell they are no more stable than they were before the bailouts – we have just postponed the disaster.
In terms of the tax evasion – I don’t think that can be laid at the feet of the Obama administration. I believe tax evasion is just par for the course in big business because the likelihood of getting caught is so minimal and the penalties are not big enough. The problem is that the IRS has been gutted over the last thirty years and hasn’t had the resources or the will to audit big companies.
“Congress coming up with all of this before Geithner, gives Obama the open door to wave bye to Geithner.”
And while the door is open, he should accept the resignations of Summers and the rest of the crew. Make a clean sweep.
If BO doesn’t take this shot…well, it’s a mistake, potentially a very big one.
So many of our “public servants” didn’t/don’t know what the oligarchs are up to.
Maybe because, when they leave the public sector, they hope a job will be waiting for them in the oligarch sector.
Every time I turn around, you guys (FDL) are stunning me with how transparent the lies are in this!
Haven’t these clowns ever heard. of plausible deniability?!
This shit isn’t even plausible!
The system is pretty f-n diseased, alright…
I went ahead and sugar-coated it.
Spectacular Jane. Spectacular!
I like Cummings a lot every time I see him. I had no idea he’s working that hard though! He pushed to be there and gave a full day’s work on it.
It’s really good that you can be there and we can be here taking personal notice of what people like Cummings are doing. Asking the questions is the first step. If they don’t get asked NOTHING will ever happen, as we well know.
The bonuses at AIGFP are definitely hush money. Hush, boys.
Day 5 on CNN and they are not giving this up. Axelrod wants this to go away ~ it won’t. The bonuses are just the latest symptom of how wrong all this is. It’s all wrong. It’s all lies. I suspect AIG may not even be ”too big to fail” in the end. We surely won’t recover by being beholden to these crooks. That’s becoming clear.
So, bonuses at Fannie are coming too now. Pandit’s renos. Pandit’s lies about his salary. And 13 TARP recipients lied that they didn’t have unpaid taxes. Wall Street working hard to bypass any restrictions on salaries/bonuses. And 78% of France is against Sarkozy’s sweet deals for the banks there. AIGFP already had an accountant whistleblower. AIG is being investigated now after being investigated in 2005. And it sounds to me like AIG will be insolvent NO MATTER WHAT we do. And we aren’t being told. How much more do we need to see to know this thing is rotten to the core. AIG is not worthy of our money. They are conning us.
And it looks like this is going to stick to Dodd so will he push back? Who is Chris Dodd? I don’t know anymore.
CNN: ”These companies lied about back taxes owing in order to get the TARP money. If you or I did this we would be prosecuted. Why are they not being prosecuted? That money is long gone and they want more. … It’s about time people do get prosecuted for lying, stealing, and maybe then they’ll stop.”
Indeed.
I don’t see how slapping new taxes on these people is going to make this go away. They will just raise the bonuses!!!!!! We know that.
Now they are reporting that remedies cannot be retroactive: that would be ”unconstitutional.” So when do the double standards stop?
There is but one remedy: STOP the bailouts. Time for a new plan.
You’re right, it is systemic.
These sort of contracts and bonuses have been SOP for so long, that those in power did not give it a second thought.
And NOW CNN is asking AIG Executives to contact them ”with your story.” A chance to get some attention for doing the right thing?
Ah smell the irony.
Jane’s new post upstairs!
Is Anyone Planning on Doing Anything About $1 Billion More in AIG Bonuses?
Geithner is politically dead. He has no credibility. Obama must fire him. He was billed as a mafia boss who knew where the bodies were buried. I think he is a double agent.
It’s not journalism, it’s stenography.
Or fellatio.
Make time. Just did.
My eyes are now wide-open.
Thank you so much for that link. More should go to it. The Movie is the best to follow.
Rangel,
While you have the public rage behind you make the entire IRS returns of those involved (fun defining “those involved” public record and retroactively for 7 years.
Aaaah, so that’s what it’s about…destroying Obama’s agenda!
Well, that shouldn’t surprise anyone, should it? And, knowing all these bonuses are a very small fraction of the bailout money doesn’t prevent the hyenas from pecking away and building a mountain out of a molehill.
That given, I have to wonder about a few things: were the people receiving these bonuses the same who built the pile of crap or replacements who shouldn’t be faulted AND if Republicans damage Obama’s team will it actually damage their ability to fix things (what the Rs want to blame on him) AND just how well is Geithner really doing in fixing the crisis(?).
It’s hard to know what’s going on because it’s complicated and they aren’t going to explain a lot for fear of sounding insane.
Maybe Geithner is doing TOO GOOD of a job and that’s why Repubs want to take him down. Who knows!
I guess Repubs would like to see AIG and the economy fail. After all they would blame it all on Dems and claim they can solve all our problems with “simple” solutions (as Michele Bachmann said today).
The problem for the public is that the problem is hard to see, quantify and understand, so they’re getting nervous and lashing out at anything that looks bad. The problem for Obama is the former and that the Republicans are playing politics and pointing fingers in every direction (at Dems of course).
We need some concrete action the public can see and be comforted by!
They’ve wound down a lot of AIG’s risky business. That’s not chopped liver.
“As far as you can tell” doesn’t mean anything. You’re not in a position to know what’s going on!
Postponing the disaster is good. Postponing it forever is a little better.
Repubs seem to want the disaster to happen. Why is that?
I ain’t no Beelzebublican. But failure is coming if we do not sieze and dissolve most of the banks and financial firms in this country quickly. Federalize the Fed and let the Treasury make loans directly to the citizenry. The sooner we realize that, the less bad this is going to be.
And I don’t think the problem is all that complicated. You have an insolvent company, AIG, that is being used as a conduit/clearing house that funnels money from witting or unwitting collaborators in the Treasury to hedge funds that are manipulating the markets and cashing in on naked CDSes written by other insolvent companies that they control. This is basically like taking insurance on the neighbors’ house prior to burning it down. Oh, and part of AIG runs a parallel insurance scam that lets you funnel your profits to offshore accounts without paying taxes.
That wasn’t all that complicated, was it? An “innovative financial instrument” works pretty much the same way, whether it is AIG’s default swap or Willie Sutton’s .45. Not complicated at all. AIG is just less honest, less hard-working, and more ambitious.
AIG is bankrupt–dead and stinking. Pull the plug, bury the stiff, and roll up the estate before we get sicker than we already are.
I think that why the Republicans want disaster is simple and easy to answer too. Quite aside from their inherently depraved and reprobate natures, Beelzebublicans are drooling over disaster because that is the next phase in the crash-and-depression game, as played in the ’20s and ’30s. Only now they have come up with some really neat new variations.
Phase 1: use the imaginary economy (the financial sector) to buy insurance against enormous imaginary losses resulting from defaults on other people’s contracts–live large! Take out more than the world’s total GDP!
Phase 2: use your hedge fund to maximize defaults on other people’s contracts.
Phase 3: manipulate the political and regulatory establishment to be sure that the insurers can pay the enormous imaginary amounts with real money, courtesy of tax payers. That 50-1 leverage is only bad in a down turn if you are holding the wrong end of the lever–and they aren’t.
Phase 4: funnel all that real money offshore before your friends in government can think too hard about where it went. Leave them to face the pitch forks and the Committees of Public Safety, if it comes to that.
Phase 5 (what the Beelzebubblies are drooling for): bring that money back in as “foreign” investment and buy up the real economy at distress-sale prices.
The last phase is already starting, in my opinion. Heard about any tech sector mergers lately? anything going on in Big Pharma?
So do you REALLY want to wait and see if pouring money into the AIG/Citi/Goldman/Morgan/Deutsche-Bank/UBS Ponzi pit will eventually provide you and me with a pay day, as Messrs. Geithner and Summers insist? I don’t. That’s not how this game works. Those that wait find out that the phones have been disconnected, no forwarding address. Except, of course, that someone soon comes along to take your house and lock you out of your business as well.