Mark Danner penned an Op Ed Sunday’s New York Times, and a longer piece in the New York Review of Books, both drawing upon the recent Red Cross report based on interviews with detainees transferred from CIA black sites to Gitmo:
October 6 to 11 and then from December 4 to 14, 2006, officials of the International Committee of the Red Cross—among whose official and legally recognized duties is to monitor compliance with the Geneva Conventions and to supervise treatment of prisoners of war—traveled to Guantánamo and began interviewing "each of these persons in private" in order to produce a report that would "provide a description of the treatment and material conditions of detention of the fourteen during the period they were held in the CIA detention program," periods ranging "from 16 months to almost four and a half years."
As the ICRC interviewers informed the detainees, their report was not intended to be released to the public but, "to the extent that each detainee agreed for it to be transmitted to the authorities," to be given in strictest secrecy to officials of the government agency that had been in charge of holding them—in this case the Central Intelligence Agency, to whose acting general counsel, John Rizzo, the report was sent on February 14, 2007. Indeed, though almost all of the information in the report has names attached, and though annexes contain extended narratives drawn from interviews with three of the detainees, whose names are used, we do find a number of times in the document variations of this formula: "One of the detainees who did not wish his name to be transmitted to the authorities alleged…"—suggesting that at least one and perhaps more than one of the fourteen, who are, after all, still "held in a high-security facility at Guantánamo," worried about repercussions that might come from what he had said.
In virtually all such cases, the allegations made are echoed by other, named detainees; indeed, since the detainees were kept "in continuous solitary confinement and incommunicado detention" throughout their time in "the black sites," and were kept strictly separated as well when they reached Guantánamo, the striking similarity in their stories, even down to small details, would seem to make fabrication extremely unlikely, if not impossible. "The ICRC wishes to underscore," as the writers tell us in the introduction, "that the consistency of the detailed allegations provided separately by each of the fourteen adds particular weight to the information provided below."
So, let’s get this straight: 14 individuals who have been kept isolated from others–and most importantly EACH OTHER–all tell the same story of what happened to them while in US custody.
Even though it was supposed to be confidential, Mr. Danner managed to get his hands on a copy of the ICRC Report on the Treatment of 14 "High Value Detainees" in CIA Custody by the International Committee of the Red Cross, completed February 2007. It’s only 43 pages long but seems to pack a wallop on every page. Mr. Danner provides the table of contents to the report which itself is a chilling litany of tortures:
Suffocation by water, Prolonged Stress Standing, Beatings by use of a collar, Beating and kicking, Confinement in a box, Prolonged nudity, Sleep deprivation and use of loud music, Exposure to cold temperature/cold water, Prolonged use of handcuffs and shackles, Threats, Forced shaving, Deprivation/restricted provision of solid food.
The conclusion reached by the Red Cross, the body legally charged with determining compliance with the Geneva Conventions?
The allegations of ill-treatment of the detainees indicate that, in many cases, the ill-treatment to which they were subjected while held in the CIA program, either singly or in combination, constituted torture. In addition, many other elements of the ill-treatment, either singly or in combination, constituted cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.
[emphasis added]
At a press conference about the black site program
Mr. Bush said, “the C.I.A. used an alternative set of procedures.” He added: “These procedures were designed to be safe, to comply with our laws, our Constitution and our treaty obligations. The Department of Justice reviewed the authorized methods extensively and determined them to be lawful.”
It is impossible for any rational being to have made an honest determination that this program was lawful. Don’t give me any crap arguments about how this was a matter of a difference of opinion. The law it elastic but it does have boundaries beyond which it cannot be stretched by even the most creative argument. John Yoo/David Addington’s arguments were never creative, merely cruelly farcical and in you face absurd. To paraphrase Jim Comey "no good lawyer would ever rely on them," I’ll take you one further, no rational person, lawyer or not, could possibly have harbored a good faith belief that this was lawful, moral, just or permissible under any theory.
My respect for the rules of copyright and fair use do not permit to block quote the horror stories contained in Mr. Danner’s two excellent pieces. Click both links above, go read for yourselves. Make sure you have the economy size box of Kleenex, because you will cry.
Bush, Cheney, Addington, Yoo, and others have turned us into a nation of monsters. We have much work to do to atone for these crimes, beginning with bringing those who commanded these crimes to be committed in our name to the bar of justice.
Twenty-ninth in a series on torture and the law.
[Editor's note: The photo by takomabibelot features a banner created and designed by Firedoglake reader BonnieT of Austin, Texas, where she operates OpposeTorture.org.]



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CNN must stop giving the Main Monster a platform for continuing to spew his lies.
The shame of our nation continues.
I agree, but on the other hand, is there an uglier face of government sponsored torture to put forth? Dick Cheney isn’t doing himself or his favorite issue and pastime, torture, any favors by showing his repugnant face on national television.
The problem is that they let him say what he wants virtually unchallenged.
Or else ask some honest questions, and have someone on to dispute his lies. Turley would be fine with me.
WHy does Cheney always go solo?
This is I believe the same report that Jane Mayer referred to in her book the Dark Side. From my scandals list:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07…..38;ei=5087
So?
It’s all just too much.
Torture
Grand Theft like no other
Lies into a war…a million murders
Spying on the citizen
Yes, I know, and dumb as dirt John King is the champion of the no-challenge interviews. I’m not giving CNN a pass at all. They are as shameful as the Murdock foundation of news propaganda. The followup and challenge needs to happen, and happen big-time. This latest ICRC report should help that to come to pass. But if Dick Cheney wants to keep showing his face in the face of it all coming to light, that’s not going to help him or his cause. In fact his own words just might, in the end, contribute to his landing himself in prison.
Anyone know/willing to speculate why the ICRC kept the report secret for two years?
They heard of Cheney’s Assasination Squads.
Be careful what Yoo wish for, Yoo might get it.
Thank you loosehead.
Digg is open
Clinton was impeached for a blowjob.
And these war criminals, these human scum, these living obscenities are walikng among us free, teaching at Berkeley, giving interviews as if they are elder statesmen, waking up and breathing free each morning.
I pray that our country has the courage to correct this injustice.
planes fall from the sky
one of the excerpts published in the Post said that prisoners were forced to stand, with their arms suspended over their heads, by shackles, for days, and given water only by having it sprayed into their faces. In other words, medieval torture, abolished in England early in the 18th century because of its extraordinary cruelty (standing with the arms suspended was one of three forms of torture, along with racking, that required Privy Council authorization – in other words, a torture warrant – beginning the in the late 16th century).. we’re way past borderline torture here, into some of the most stereotyped and barbaric implementations of the crime.
well, the icrc, by definition, doesn’t publish their reports so as to stay a neutral party and be able to continue having access.
this was leaked deliberately. which we can all be grateful about. my own thought when i first saw it was that it was put out now to push obama who is so far still not ending the united states of america torturing people, many of whom had nothing to do with trying to harm us in any way.
ICRC reports are always confidential. This is part of the old covenant, dating back to their founding, that they make with thugocratic governments so that they can provide some humanitarian relief – basically, if you let us in to see your abusive detention conditions and to render some measure of aid or provide some type of comfort to your victims, we promise not to tell on you. This confidentiality is central to ICRC’s ability to accomplish its mission – its mission is not justice, its to save lives and to provide humanitarian comfort, even under the most horrific of conditions.
The egregiousness of shrubco’s crimes seems to prompted someone at ICRC to leak this report – a leak which goes against generations of ICRC custom and procedure. That’s how bad this is.
Because that’s the only way he’ll show up and agree to the interview?
oh sorry greenwarrior.. we overlapped ;p
It has to do with how the reports are written. They are not done to be made public but as I noted in my #6, the existence of this report has been known for almost a year. It looks like the media were willing to pursue this only once Bush was out of office.
i’ll have a chocolate milkshake….
actually, i like the way you added the explanation of their mission.
How sick is our discourse that the only mainstream media figure I would fully trust to interview Cheney is John Stewart?
We are well and truly a failed state.
Has John Yoo found a job yet? Who would hire a war criminal?
It gives too much credit to Yoo to say he pulled this one off.
The list of those in the know and involved in the planning and execution and cover up is huge, and by the time Congress was passing the MCA and even the DTA, it’s pretty clear that any sentient being in the Congress and the DOJ knew most of the parameters of this info.
Meanwhile, Obama is busy making sure that we argue that the Dostum Container of Death survivors don’t get a shot at filing any actions against the US. Because, they argue – they, our current Dept of Justice, are currently arguing – our Constitution allows the torture of non-citizens.
Chiming in to the theme that Obama espoused when he was running for President (so it shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone to hear it again, now) Detainees Have No Constitutional Protections per our current Dept of Justice.
Maher Arar’s case has been stymied with DOJ filing the affidavits to claim that their own dept had the right to sign off and ship directly to torture (that wasn’t John Yoo signing the affidavits in that case) and in what should have been the most embarassing moment in our Sup Ct’s recent history, Khalid el-Masri’s case (and he wasn’t even a “high value detainee” but rather, just a guy with the wrong name) was kicked out of our courts.
Yoo started the game, but he was benched a long time back and there has never been a lack of “players” to keep the torture ball rolling.
we are still missing some of the requirements for a failed state: most of us have access to clean water, food, electricity and housing. granted, that is shifting as more people become homeless.
They were waiting for bush to leave office?
17, 18 – Makes sense. A leak now, rather than when the government in place was the perp?
the gorilla in the room rugby player…
did obama read this before it became public
if so, he is complicit
sorry, he is
Yoo teaches, under protection of tenure, at Berkeley.
I believe it is Addington who’s job hunting now.
Does anything indicate that the torture was accompanied by interrogation? Anyone yelling questions? Or was this torture for the sake of seeing what torture does? Or the “pleasure” of doing it?
Yoo was a tenured Professor at Berkley’s Boalt Hall on a leave of absence.
He returned in full standing although is currently a guest lecturer I believe at Chapman University
the university of california where he is employed as a law professor.
don’t hit me i’m only answering the question.
it was accompanied by interrogation. iirc from my reading, some of it was for obtaining false confessions that were known ahead of time to be false.
puravida, dakine, what are you guys drinking?
Cranberry or Orange juice is fine
Kool Aid.
Of course.
;-)
This report clearly has the CIA dead to rights. Such a shame. We need a committee of inquiry NOW.
10 – their policy is to keep confidential, period. That is how they get the torturers to give them access, by agreeing to not make findings public.
;-) Kool aid for you and cranberry for dakine coming right up.
I think the agenda was to obtain false confessions, not for the purpose of providing actionable intel, but rather for purposes of political propaganda. That propaganda was, in turn, used to justify ever more draconian rights abuses and to keep the populace in a constant state of fear (”dirty bomber confesses!” “anthrax conspiracy exposed!” etc etc).
yes, that sounds right. well, not right at all, just sounds like what they were up to.
41 - I think the agenda was to obtain false confessions
At least, after the torture was started, it became pretty much necessary to get some kind of confessions to something, to cover *justification* as a basis for the torture.
In the case that Obama is fighting now, the CIA was paying for warmish bodies, so an Afghan warlord rounded up a bunch of people, put them in a container (with no air holes) for shipping to the CIA/military purchasers. The container had no air holes, so people began suffocating. The warlord responded to the screams by have someone shoot the container (and its human contents) to provde airholes (for anyone not already suffocated or killed by the bullets).
Among the very few survivors were three or so British nationals. So what happens when your warlord delivers to you a continer that has been sprayed with bullets and is full of suffocated and shot victims, but among the few survivors are nationals from our “coalition partner” Britain?
You damn well better get them to confess to something. In this case, they dug up a picture of bin laden with three or so unidentified men in it, and got the brits to confess to being those men.
The problem was that, given the info that was known about the picture and the info that Britain’s intell knew about the men – - it was physically impossible for any of them to have been in the picture.
But still, now there was a confession of an association with Bin Laden to justify it all.
A few months back, our friend the warlord went to where the shipping container and its human evidence had been buried – less than5 miles from a US base – and started digging up and removing the “evidence” and US troops did nothing.
That, or they got off on watching the films.
Well said!!
What about the news item that was floating around when Mike Connell’s plane went down, that he was responsible for setting up a live-feed for the Bush WH, so that the Sec. Def., VP and others could watch torture sessions?? That item disappeared as quickly as it surfaced. I bet Brad Friedman of Bradblog has it.
Please see my diary entry, a response to this piece, at the following link
http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/4258
Suffice it to say the “outrage” over AIG really pisses me off when I hear “crickets” in the white house over the ICRC report and the revelations from Seymour Hersh about the Cheney death squads.
Scares the shit out of me as they are probably still plenty active. They never cared about the law before, why should they now?
From Science News:
Remind anyone of a recent President?
Too bad We the People are utterly helpless to redress the wrongs perpetrated in our name by the past and present Government. Obama seems bent on protecting his class of Oligarchs.
planes fall from the sky
You know how I feel
Shotguns in the eye
You know how I feel
SoLs fly by
You know how I feel
It’s a new dawn
But it’s the same snarl
And the same look
Looming over
Only traitors torture.
And cutting someone’s nuts with a scalpel is an inarguable form of torture.
I don’t support ANY troops that engaged in this despicable deprivation of the humanity any of my brothers and sisters. And these sickos are coming back home someday to infect our communities with their vile humanity and to date and marry our sons and daughters.
None of the three network nightly news shows covered this story. Most Americans are not even aware of this report. Is that pathetic or what?
obama is a vain man, and the way to force his hand on this matter is to criticize him there. he is afraid of appearing soft, so simply point out that history will not judge him well for protecting war criminals. and nope, the pragmatism of ‘looking forward’ is nothing but an alibi for his own calculated inaction. if he wants to be the firewall for w, then he needs to own it.