FDL has obtained a copy of the letter from AIG Chairman Ed Liddy’s letter to Timothy Geithner justifying the payment of $100 million in bonuses to their Financial Products Group (PDF), and a white paper explaining the legal justification for it (AIGFP Employee Retention Plan – PDF). The Financial Products Group, remember, was the London office run by Joseph Cassano that was doing all the derivatives trading that tanked AIG.
The white paper claims AIG has no choice but to make these payments:
We have been advised that the bonus provisions of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 prohibiting certain bonuses specifically exclude bonuses paid pursuant to pre-February 11, 2009 employment contracts.
According to attorney looseheadprop, the white paper is a Yoo-like document written to to find a reason "why they COULD make the payments. It’s all a beard." She says:
These things are "bonuses" not salary. Words have meaning, even in law. If they are "retention bonuses" you are only contractually required to pay them if you want the executives to be contractually obligated to stay in your employ.
Liddy is making the claim that these bonuses are necessary to keep the "best" people. But according to Ron Glantz, cofounder of global macro hedge fund Pantera Capital Management, there is high unemployment right now among financial executives. He says that six months’ ago he had to fire a Rhodes Scholar finalist they had hired away from Goldman, Sachs who spoke fluent Chinese and was a magna cum laude graduate of Princeton — who has still not found work. He says that bonuses are now being structured as "hiring bonuses" to get around government restrictions.
There is a hearing on AIG scheduled by the House Financial Services Committee this Wednesday at 10am ET, where we’ll no doubt be treated to members of Congress hollering at AIG executives. But as attorney bmaz says, it’s time that the committee subpoenaed these and other AIG contracts and had a look at them:
Here is what we don’t see: The freaking contracts that supposedly demand these payments. Let’s see em. Give me a contract, I will find you a lawyer to take it apart at the seams. If the contracts were really that ironclad, there would have been a specimen contract attached, or the relevant clauses quoted. The fact that there was nothing resembling that tells me that it won’t stand up to hard scrutiny.
The letter from Liddy to Geithner suggests that the Financial Products Group saw the risk of the crash coming. When were their contracts signed? Were these executives demanding iron-clad contracts in the midst of early warning signals, even if AIG suffered massive losses from their defaults swaps triggering in 2008 and 2009?
We’ll never know unless Congress subpoenas these contracts. As satisfying as it will be to watch members of Congress yelling at AIG executive, without subpoenas it’s all just for show.
Sign the petition to Congress: No More Dough Til We Know Where It Goes.



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In this case we know exactly where the dough is going. And the answer is NO! NO! NO! What part of NO! don’t you understand???
It is my belief that this money going out to bank employees is don’t you dare go out and write a book money.
What is that fine old saying? Oh, yes. “Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining!”
I wrote this at the end of the last thread:
The robber barons get bonus money while we pump billions of taxpayer dollars into AIG to largely prop up foreign interests.
If they’re “contractually obligated” then the Feds should cut them off so they go before a bankruptcy judge. That’s how companies always, always get out of labor contracts. Oh wait, that only happens for blue collar labor. Sorry, I forgot.
foothillsmike March 15th, 2009 at 8:56 am
It is my belief that this money going out to bank employees is don’t you dare go out and write a book money.
Sorry Mike, what?
This is in my opinion, money paid to people to not go out and spill the beans as to what has been going on.
So factory workers with contracts take pay, benefits cuts but Bankers Contracts Are More Equal than Others?
They are fucking pigs.
-G
What is important to remember is that Paulson had the compensation language in the TARP legislation tailored so that it could be ignored. IIRC in his famous telephone call to bank execs that got leaked he said as much. Now this is being invoked as a reason why they must honor these “contracts”. This is all a con.
I said at the time (October 2008) that 1) all these people should be fired for what they had done and 2) there were a zillion unemployed financial experts who could take their place.
What we are seeing is that the financial industry and our government elites don’t see themselves as belonging to separate groups. They are one and the same. When Liddy and Geithner are defending bonuses for these crooks they are really defending their own (people).
Thank you for creating this opportunity….my note is signed and sealed, and to be delivered, I hope. Keep it coming.
Did AIG parent guarantee the obligations of AIGFP? I bet AIGFP is insolvent. Cut AIGFP loose and let those failures eat their paper.
My bold So the guys who lost you $100 million have to get paid this is capitalism? Naw this is Crony Capitalism this is Bushism!
This is Bullshit!
That too.
As Kuttner said on Stephanoupoulous’ show today: If the auto workers must be forced to cram down, why not AIG’s people?
Never forget that the original language in the bail out proposal included that “there be no accountability.” How arrogant can you get? I think that was Paulsen’s first presentation.
No you lose $100 million they are not your best people. Thats grounds to fire somebody we cannot afford the best people.
Maybe the second best people will only lose $50 million.
The audacity of fraudsters
But then where would the bankrupt hedge funds get the money to buy crap government backed assets from the bankrupt banks?
“The fact that there was nothing resembling that tells me that it won’t stand up to hard scrutiny.” –bmaz
I’ll be surprised if it stands up to a “cursory glance”, much less “hard scrutiny”.
If only it was just a $100 million vs $50 million
Jane we need poll numbers on this to pressure Congress. Geithner has to be polling below the House GOP.
I believe Liddy is the guy who was paying Cassano a million dollars a month as a consultant to help unravel the deals he had made. I always thought it would have been a lot cheaper to have done this as part of a plea bargain.
I’m with bmaz. Take it to court. Does it stand up? Let a jury decide.
Thank you for being so tough on critical issues like this, Jane.
NO! They do NOT have to, no matter how much paper they throw around, no matter how many tantrums. What will they do, plead insanity later as the world economy circles the toilet?!
Their idiotic shenanigans would be hilarious if they weren’t so lethal.
I know I’m trying some gallows humor:)
Can we:)
I sense that there will be some sternly worded letters forthcoming from congress.
Can we? I bet for sure we can find twelve angry men and women.
Jane:
“We’ll never know unless Congress subpoenas these contracts. As satisfying as it will be to watch members of Congress yelling at AIG executive, without subpoenas it’s all just for show.”
The keen insight contained in this statement should give us a very good idea who is real and who is “full of sound and fury, signifying nothing”. You’ve thrown down the gauntlet. Let’s see who, if anyone, steps up. Should we start a pool?
If American workers are forced some form of cramdown, why can’t AIG and the banks…..
At the company I work at, in January it was announced that there would be no pay increases in 2009 and will review it again in 2010 if they will reinstitute annual pay increases. So give me a reason why a large national company would reinstate annual pay increases with high unemployment? What is there incentive to increase their overhead?
And much finger wagging. “If you guys don’t stop what you’re doing…well…no TV for three nights. That’ll teach ya…”
Shit.
“If American workers are forced some form of cramdown, why can’t AIG and the bansk….. “
I’d like to show some AIG, Citi, BofA, etal gangsters some “cramdown”. Grrrrr….
And we have an answer in the legal summary:
footnote 2 on page 2.
Shorter LiddyGeithnerSummers: The lawyers made us do it.
Change we can believe in. NOT.
If AIG’s chairman and department heads won’t stick around without bonuses as big as their frauds, I say pay them nothing as one cost of getting the taxpayer’s dime (tens of billions of them).
The idea that managers who ran their companies into the ground should be heavily rewarded and asked to resuscitate them is like asking Dick Cheney to chair our Truth Commission. They will, gladly, but only to bury their skeletons and convince us nuffin’ never happened. Like the teenage dinner guest from hell, they won’t even say “thanks” for the money, but they will ask for more.
Did anyone see Bill Mahar “New Rules” about Geithner – dear in the headlights….. That says it all….
We are overpaying AIG execs so that AIG can overpay hedge funds so the hedge funds can overpay banks for their crap assets, with the government overpaying anyone and everyone at each step along the way.
I thought Bush and his people were bad but the way Geithner and Summers are setting up to loot the government makes them look like a bunch of pikers.
I am not an Obama supporter but even I have difficulty in accepting just how destructive his approach to our economic crisis is. It’s like he wants to vie for Bush’s position as the worst President in our history. What did we do to deserve such leaders?
Maybe we could put it to a vote, whether these execs should be retained? I think there are more and better people who could get those jobs.
Jane, how about a list of the elected reps who will be hearing this sorry-ass song and dance? With phone numbers.
but if you stop the bonuses, the real estate market in the hamptons will collapse and all the middle class people who also live there will see their housing values plummett.
–that’s the kind of logic I am hearing now at the LATimes about limiting (LIMITING!) the home interest deduction to 28% at ALL brackets.
I heard the story was ordered up from above.
nice way to suck up to your real estate advertisers. there was a time when LAT stood up to the car dealers when the protested shitty reviews of new autos.
http://www.latimes.com/busines…..full.story
nawww.. don’t give ‘em the money ..and cut AIG adrift .. let ‘em “retain” that .. eh ??
this stuff has become stupid on a three dimensional level ..
Here ya go…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyO7-WAC_gQ
Enjoy!
Mitch McConnell on Geo Steppy’s program is outraged about the bonuses and suggests we take a look at the contracts.
Can we count on our friends the Republicants to do something about reducing or eliminating the bonuses of their friends on Wall Street?
Interesting when David Cay Johnston was here the other day, he singled out the LAT as being spineless.
Geithners public private partnership scam is going to unleash a surge in collection agencies the likes of which we have never seen.
What has been so shameful in all this is that it is some of the most repulsive and nutcase Republicans, like McConnell or Bunning also from Kentucky, who are asking the tough questions. Their reasons for doing so are as crazy as ever but at least they are asking. My question is: where are the Democrats?
I still think there is a very simple and elegant solution to this issue. Re-instate the 90% differential tax rate on income over $250,000 a year. Then they can call the bonuses anything they want and pay them out all day long. It just comes back to us then. That tax rate worked fine for us until Reagan. It can work again.
Code of Ethics Disclosure. The Commission shall issue rules to require each issuer, together with periodic reports required pursuant to section 13(a) or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, to disclose whether or not, and if not, the reason therefor, such issuer has adopted a code of ethics for senior financial officers, applicable to its principal financial officer and comptroller or principal accounting officer, or persons performing similar functions.
Exactly!
Employment contracts with senior executives often demand nothing, but commit the company to pay big without conditions. They are negotiated and written amidst irreconcilable conflicts of interest. The general counsel who negotiates competent ones with new CEO’s and EVP’s ends up making a career shortening decision. The board members who supported the GC at the beginning frequently blend into the woodwork when problems appear. Their excuse is “It’s up to management to sort out; we only advise.”
Even when the contracts are well-written, boards rarely enforce them. That’s usually because the departing top dogs know as many dirty secrets about company ops, and board approval of them or inaction, as the board or other execs know about the top dogs they want out.
The preferred solution is a truckload of hush money called a golden parachute. (Legitimate terminations also involve parachutes, but are rarely the ones making headlines.)
These guys knowingly left their traditional businesses in the dust and, like Enron, launched initially lucrative, but highly risky new ventures. Some of them in the belief that no one would know or that they were too big to fail. They are the last people who should be asked to fix their businesses or to spend taxpayer funds.
If boards were doing their jobs, they would contest these contracts. Why bother, if that exposes their own misdeeds or inaction and the government is just airlifting to them cargo-holds of cash without question?
Obama and Geithner should add a little heat and let the pot boil. If these guys tank, the US may still end up with the tab, but it won’t also have made these fraudsters as rich as Croesus.
Miss McConnell is also the one who said that the Franken-Coleman election was going to wind up in the US Supreme Court — despite all the evidence to the contrary.
… and everything else in sight !
Is it possible to tax Executive bonuses acquired this year at 150% rates?
Yes defending their own as well as holding the investor customer base they trade on.
Can’t the people get redress in the courts? If Congress, won’t do anything except vent, and the Attorney General can’t find some way to demand accountability, then can’t someone bring a class action suit on behalf of all Americans? Many people have lost real money and all of us are now responsible for huge debt because of the bailouts. Surely there is a creative way to bring a lawsuit on all of this and bring that which is in the shadows into the light. And we just might end up with some redistribution of ill-gotten wealth.
I think that many of the recipients need a long vacation at our expense too
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How about outing the individuals at AIG demanding their “contractual bonuses?” They could be identified by name, photo and residential address.
In effect, a scarlet “G” for unbridled greed could be painted on their foreheads. I suspect this might cause a good many of these folks to
reconsider. If not out of shame, then because it would mean the end of their carreers.
What did we do to deserve such leaders?
We bought into identity politics as a nation, and thus we ceased to pay attention to all the warning signs along the campaign trail. Reagan, Clinton, Bush, and Obama all had big shining red flags, but the bulk of the public didn’t notice, or didn’t care.
The whole “best and brightest” argument clearly must be based on the logic that these Executives were so great at ratf**king the public and Congress in obtaining the bail-out money that they clearly deserve the bonuses.
It seems to me that a general a very loud “NO!- We will find every means to prevent you from doing this…from requiring you pay back the money immediately, to intensive application of resources investigating and prosecuting illegal acts by your firm and its executives” would be in order. Take away their passports. If any of them are receiving “positions of profit, honor or trust under the United States” IMPEACH THEM in Congress…thereby banning them from government contracts, lobbyist positions, grants, loans, or any other Federal funds for them or their employers in perpetuity!
If you can’t prosecute them you can, at the very least restrict them from sucking at the public teat anymore!
It still ain’t time to take to the streets? Lied into war, torture, criminals in the Justice Department and all throughout congress and the Bush WH, and now stealing our wealth. Do they have to start stealing our babies?
Sometimes I am disgusted.
After Enron CEO’s had to swear their financial statements were accurate AIG seems to have violated this law why is he not behind Bars?
There are plenty of unemployed financial people now and CEO’s we could hire to replace him. By we I mean us we own AIG.
Ya think? S)
Retention Bonuses = Hush Money.
Seriously. There is nothing to retain here – their business is 90% over – they will have to sell off the life insurance part and the rest is about the Investment/Credit Default Swaps – and that went bust, and is the black hole where Taxpayer money is going.
AIG is trying t survive long enough to get their legal ducks in a row – then they will be an even bigger Enron I bet.
I’m calling McConnell’s office tomorrow and reminding him of today’s statement and will ask if he’s going to do something about it.
LHP is up
AIG is teh funny
Dear ______________________
I could hardly be more outraged that my tax dollars are going to give bonuses to the scoundrel executives of AIG and Wall Street financial institutions that caused our current economic calamity. Accordingly, I insist that you do everything in your power to prevent executives of these firms that are receiving my tax dollars from getting bonuses of any kind. In the case of AIG, if I’m not mistaken, at 80% ownership, my US government is THE predominant stakeholder of AIG. As such, my preference is that the entire executive staff be fired and criminal investigations initiated. Short of that, if the executives are to be retained, it MUST be conditional on a redo of their contracts to eliminate any and all bonuses.
Sincerely,
Dishonesty cloaked in the garment of legality. Immoral. This is our money that should be spent on health care. Not health insurance. Or education. Or roads. Sickening.
Jon Stewert was right! the insiders knew what was coming and played all of us who were not in the club(wink wink) as if we were all idiots.
Get out the pitchforks and torches. I include both congress and the villagers in the msm along with the masters of the universe financial “experts” on wall st.
This thing reminds me so much the Credit Mobilier scandal of the Grant presidency. That one involved the representatves in Congress who wired themselves in to the Union Pacific railroad construction through the Credit Mobiler and cashed in the government gold bonds for each mile of the railroad that got built. Congress later passed a bill that authorized the AG to sue the Union Pacific to get the money back but the US Supreme Court ended up dismissing the case, holding that the government “lacked standing” to recover the funds because the directors of the Union Pacific did not owe any fiduciary duty to the government.
Does anyone know if AIG guaranteed the derivative contracts at AIGFP? I read the 10K and cannot find it. I understand the bonus payments were guaranteed but that is a small number by comparison. If the derivatives were not guaranteed, why did AIG buyout the underlying mortgage paper with taxpayer money. Would it have been more prudent to put AIGFP in bankruptcy and spare the taxpayers $180 billion?
Someone please help me understand this.
But the Repuglicans are going to “legislate”…so they won’t do anything either. If the Democrats come up with a response to these will the Republicans join? Or will they simply obstruct and protect their buddies?
I’ll take the job for $30K and an apt. What say?
Aaron Zelinsky (Articles Editor of The Yale Law Journal) says:
Larry Summers: Stop the AIG Bonuses. Yes You Can.