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	<title>Comments on: Ron Paul Republicans and Progressive Democrats Agree on Earmarks, Transparency</title>
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		<title>By: oneforliberty</title>
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		<dc:creator>oneforliberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ron Paul vs Tim Russert:  I saw that interview you mention and the question Russert asked was disingenuous.  Russert well knew that earmarks do not increase the spending of a bill, but he was counting on the ignorance of his viewers.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Russert’s question stemmed from Paul voting “no” (aka Dr. No) on so many bills and Russert was pretending it was hypocritical of Paul to then claim earmarks.  Paul countered that even though he voted “no”, if the bill passed, why not give his constituents back some of their very own money?  Funds are going to be spent and since earmarks do not add to a bill’s funding (which of course Russert knew) why not bring it back to the people?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I thought Paul’s answer was great, especially beginning with the, “Oh, come on now Tim….” — emphasizing the false “gotcha” Russert was trying to play.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul vs Tim Russert:  I saw that interview you mention and the question Russert asked was disingenuous.  Russert well knew that earmarks do not increase the spending of a bill, but he was counting on the ignorance of his viewers.  </p>
<p>Russert’s question stemmed from Paul voting “no” (aka Dr. No) on so many bills and Russert was pretending it was hypocritical of Paul to then claim earmarks.  Paul countered that even though he voted “no”, if the bill passed, why not give his constituents back some of their very own money?  Funds are going to be spent and since earmarks do not add to a bill’s funding (which of course Russert knew) why not bring it back to the people?</p>
<p>I thought Paul’s answer was great, especially beginning with the, “Oh, come on now Tim….” — emphasizing the false “gotcha” Russert was trying to play.</p>
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		<title>By: bfire52</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 13:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;good article, well done&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.phone-sex-psychologist.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;good post&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good article, well done</p>
<p><a href="http://www.phone-sex-psychologist.com" rel="nofollow">good post</a></p>
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		<title>By: metetzky</title>
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		<dc:creator>metetzky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 22:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree that Ron Paul is in some ways better than Ellen Tauscher. For me this illustrates a long-held goal: breaking up the duopoly. If we can help split libertarians away from militarists and religious nuts, breaking up the Republican party, then we should look forward to a Progressive party that is able to dump the corporatists. A 4-party system would suit me fine.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Ron Paul is in some ways better than Ellen Tauscher. For me this illustrates a long-held goal: breaking up the duopoly. If we can help split libertarians away from militarists and religious nuts, breaking up the Republican party, then we should look forward to a Progressive party that is able to dump the corporatists. A 4-party system would suit me fine.</p>
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		<title>By: lonestarleroy</title>
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		<dc:creator>lonestarleroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I too want agreement where possible, but here you are barking up a wrong tree. Dr. Paul does not even accept medicare or medicaid in his private praactice. Whatever you may say about the man he is conistent in his belief system. He would however be one we could work with on issues we share common ground, but will probably never surrender on others (no harm in asking however).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too want agreement where possible, but here you are barking up a wrong tree. Dr. Paul does not even accept medicare or medicaid in his private praactice. Whatever you may say about the man he is conistent in his belief system. He would however be one we could work with on issues we share common ground, but will probably never surrender on others (no harm in asking however).</p>
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		<title>By: nihilobstet</title>
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		<dc:creator>nihilobstet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are, on the other hand, some problems with earmarks.  They can be corrupt — groups who make campaign contributions are likely to be found at the head of the earmark queue. And the possibility of earmarks has come to mean that states and units of local government feel that they have to employ lobbyists to try to get the earmark.  The earmark itself may be a good expenditure of public money, but I have some problem with the notion that the first step in getting the sewer system upgrade that the town needs is to use public money to pay a lobbyist.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are, on the other hand, some problems with earmarks.  They can be corrupt — groups who make campaign contributions are likely to be found at the head of the earmark queue. And the possibility of earmarks has come to mean that states and units of local government feel that they have to employ lobbyists to try to get the earmark.  The earmark itself may be a good expenditure of public money, but I have some problem with the notion that the first step in getting the sewer system upgrade that the town needs is to use public money to pay a lobbyist.</p>
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		<title>By: wmd1961</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think there’s a way to get Paulite Republicans to agree with universal healthcare… it will be tough, but “Promote the general welfare” from the preamble should resonate with them. And the spectacular failures of profit driven health insurance and medical delivery… it should be possible to push a common good/general welfare argument that says regulatory policy created a failed system, and we need to have a system that delivers health care to all Americans without over reliance on emergency rooms.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there’s a way to get Paulite Republicans to agree with universal healthcare… it will be tough, but “Promote the general welfare” from the preamble should resonate with them. And the spectacular failures of profit driven health insurance and medical delivery… it should be possible to push a common good/general welfare argument that says regulatory policy created a failed system, and we need to have a system that delivers health care to all Americans without over reliance on emergency rooms.</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agree.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FWIW, ending slavery required that the vast majority of the Union Army be composed of men who were white supremacists. They strongly believed in segregation, but they opposed some states allowing slavery.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree.</p>
<p>FWIW, ending slavery required that the vast majority of the Union Army be composed of men who were white supremacists. They strongly believed in segregation, but they opposed some states allowing slavery.</p>
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		<title>By: BMiller224</title>
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		<dc:creator>BMiller224</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ron Paul has some ideas that coincide with those of liberal Democrats. But his basic viewpoint is hard-line rightwing isolationist - the kind of Old Right isolationism that is just the flip side of nationalist unilateralism. He agrees with the John Birch Society much more than with liberal Democrats.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s also been one of the main players in “mainstreaming” themes of the “patriot militia” and white supremicist/nativist groups into the mainstream of the Republican Party.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So even when I find myself agreeing with him on an individual point, I still see him as a seriously bad influence in American politics.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul has some ideas that coincide with those of liberal Democrats. But his basic viewpoint is hard-line rightwing isolationist &#8211; the kind of Old Right isolationism that is just the flip side of nationalist unilateralism. He agrees with the John Birch Society much more than with liberal Democrats.</p>
<p>He’s also been one of the main players in “mainstreaming” themes of the “patriot militia” and white supremicist/nativist groups into the mainstream of the Republican Party.</p>
<p>So even when I find myself agreeing with him on an individual point, I still see him as a seriously bad influence in American politics.</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 21:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/14/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-russ-baker-author-of-family-of-secrets/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Book Salon upstairs&lt;/a&gt; with Russ Baker and his &lt;i&gt;Family of Secrets, The Bush Dynasty…&lt;/i&gt; hosted by Emptywheel&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2009/03/14/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-russ-baker-author-of-family-of-secrets/" rel="nofollow">Book Salon upstairs</a> with Russ Baker and his <i>Family of Secrets, The Bush Dynasty…</i> hosted by Emptywheel</p>
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		<title>By: BooRadley</title>
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		<dc:creator>BooRadley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;where in 2 to 3 years they will be very valuable while collecting some income and may be re-purchased again by these same banks later &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s not that simple.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/3947&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Guess what got lost in the loan pool&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;WE are all learning, to our deep distress, how the perpetual pursuit of profits drove so many of the bad decisions that financial institutions made during the mortgage mania.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But while investors tally the losses that were generated by loose lending so far, the impact of another lax practice is only beginning to be seen. That is the big banks’ minimalist approach to meeting legal requirements — bookkeeping matters, really — when pooling thousands of loans into securitization trusts. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Stated simply, the notes that underlie mortgages placed in securitization trusts must be assigned to those trusts soon after the firms create them. And any transfers of these notes must also be recorded. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But this seems not to have been a priority with many big banks. The result is that bankruptcy judges are finding that institutions claiming to hold the notes that back specific mortgages often cannot prove it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On Feb. 11, a circuit court judge in Miami-Dade County in Florida set aside a judgment against Ana L. Fernandez, a borrower whose home had been foreclosed and repurchased on Jan. 21 by Chevy Chase Bank, the institution claiming to hold the note. But the bank had been unable to produce evidence that the original lender had assigned the note, which was in the amount of $225,000, to Chevy Chase. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With the sale set aside, Ms. Fernandez remains in the home. “We believe this loan was never assigned,” said Ray Garcia, the lawyer in Miami who represented the borrower. Now, he said, it is up to whoever can produce the underlying note to litigate the case. The statute of limitations on such a matter runs for five years, he said.[…]&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ofcourse the white-collar thugs, who bought the CDS’ and worthless securities want to give it to the taxpayers without paying back the losses.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In three, or five, or ten years, they will only buy back the stuff that is worth something. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why leave the white-collar thugs, who engineered this disaster in control of what’s left of the banks? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;do&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>where in 2 to 3 years they will be very valuable while collecting some income and may be re-purchased again by these same banks later </p>
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<p>It’s not that simple.</p>
<p><a href="http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/3947" rel="nofollow">Guess what got lost in the loan pool</a></p>
<blockquote><p>WE are all learning, to our deep distress, how the perpetual pursuit of profits drove so many of the bad decisions that financial institutions made during the mortgage mania.</p>
<p>But while investors tally the losses that were generated by loose lending so far, the impact of another lax practice is only beginning to be seen. That is the big banks’ minimalist approach to meeting legal requirements — bookkeeping matters, really — when pooling thousands of loans into securitization trusts. </p>
<p>Stated simply, the notes that underlie mortgages placed in securitization trusts must be assigned to those trusts soon after the firms create them. And any transfers of these notes must also be recorded. </p>
<p>But this seems not to have been a priority with many big banks. The result is that bankruptcy judges are finding that institutions claiming to hold the notes that back specific mortgages often cannot prove it. </p>
<p>On Feb. 11, a circuit court judge in Miami-Dade County in Florida set aside a judgment against Ana L. Fernandez, a borrower whose home had been foreclosed and repurchased on Jan. 21 by Chevy Chase Bank, the institution claiming to hold the note. But the bank had been unable to produce evidence that the original lender had assigned the note, which was in the amount of $225,000, to Chevy Chase. </p>
<p>With the sale set aside, Ms. Fernandez remains in the home. “We believe this loan was never assigned,” said Ray Garcia, the lawyer in Miami who represented the borrower. Now, he said, it is up to whoever can produce the underlying note to litigate the case. The statute of limitations on such a matter runs for five years, he said.[…]</p>
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<p>Ofcourse the white-collar thugs, who bought the CDS’ and worthless securities want to give it to the taxpayers without paying back the losses.</p>
<p>In three, or five, or ten years, they will only buy back the stuff that is worth something. </p>
<p>Why leave the white-collar thugs, who engineered this disaster in control of what’s left of the banks? </p>
<p>do</p>
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