“head-scratchingly super-sized double segment”
Well said; what is up with giving her all that time? Next time, I expect Luke Russert to interview her.

Maybe it was a way to entice more Repubs to come on the show???

That said, Meghan makes a lot more sense than the elected Repub officials. A LOT MORE.

Rachel clearly enjoyed the interview and she handled it well.

Did you know that Meghan is 24, and that she fell in love with the Republican Party? Better watch yourself Sarah!

We have ideas we have message we just need to get the message out more I still can’t believe that a Nazi with Uranium trying to make a Dirty Bomb did not make the news.

“It thsarts with mesthage.” She sounds like such a spoiled brat Manhattanite. I guess they’re all the same, regardless of where they live. Perhaps the most homogeneous group of people on the planet?

This is a GOP Civil War the Corporate Wing

Jewish people need to be perfected

? Well there goes the racist vote.
The screaming crowds of Sarah people calling Obama, Ossama. I think the Corporate wing knows that there are more moderates than 20%ers.
Plus Message Corporate folks think about advertising and handling issues this has Newt written all over it.

Rachel lost a bet.

Meghan couldn’t, or wouldn’t, explain what those messages — or ideas, for that matter, were. She doesn’t understand economics, and thinks Twitter will save the GOP. I don’t know why she was on Rachel’s show, but I congratulate her on appearing. Perhaps now other GOPs will realize that Rachel is a nice person and worth sitting down for a chat.

But I doubt it.

At least she admits it when she doesn’t know something. Unlike “I’ll just have ta get back to ya on thats”!

Are you sure she admitted to everything she didn’t know, or only the most obvious thing she didn’t know? *g*

I’ll admit I switched to some CSI when that came on. My tolerance for R shills is pretty low these days, even if they are on Rachel.

Seems she “inadvertently on purpose” became a “media star” with her “attack” on Coulter.
I watched the first half then had to stop.
Like most republicans I’ve listened to, the back half of her sentences didn’t match up with the front half.

She’s heard the buzz words and can pronounce them, but I don’t think they mean what she thinks they do.

If she can name the countries in NAFTA she’d have been overqualified to run on her dad’s presidential ticket.

In some ways, Meghan is just like her daddy- she is an opportunist who will use her family name and connections to move her career forward. She has gotten way more attention than she merits. I will say this for her though, I like her friendly, positive style way better than Coulters. Meghan went through most of the campaign without saying a negative word about Obama or the Dems. If only she could articulate why she loves the republican party other than stating a fondness for military folks and the surge. Meghan, dear, we are not chosing up sides just for the heck of it.

Yup, was my first thought too. Rachel lost a bet.

And, bless her heart, 24 year old M.M. needs to seriously think about diet and exercise.

Nice that there are a few voices such as Laura Ingraham on the Right attempting to elevate the level of discourse.

Laura Ingraham mocks Meghan McCain as being ‘plus-sized.’

Well, Meghan is the child of John who for HIS BIRTHDAY last year or the year before told him she had become a republican. I mean, really, what kind of child does that? A fearful mixed up one that she can’t be a liberal or a free thinker and to make her father happy she decides to be a member her father’s political party?

Anyway…

Glad to see Meghan has gone back to being herself. I’m sure she’s glad the cloud has lifted too. LOL

Yeah she has a GOP plant smell to her only unlike Common Man 20%er Joe, Megan is custom made to get moderate votes.

Raven,

This thread seems pretty slow, so let me tell you that WWII story I mentioned a couple of weeks ago.

My late husband was a rough contemporary of Kissinger. Born in about the same year to Jewish parents in Dusseldorf and emigrated to the U.S. at about the same age as Kissinger (13). (Just looked at Kissinger’s wiki. Turns out he is 2 years older than my late, and was born in Bavaria. But he did enter U.S. around the same time, 1938 for K, 1939 (on the high seas on New Years) for mine.) Unlike K, mine spoke completely unaccented English, and was fluent in French, Portuguese, German, and could make do in most romance languages.

Mine enlisted in the U.S. Army 5 months before he turned 18, lying about his age (had that bday for USGov for his entire life) to get back to fight those Nazi-sons-o-bitches. Got a silver star for swimming across the Seine near Foutainebleau to retreive row boats for the rest of his team to cross the river. He did POW interrogations (”in all the known methods”).

His experience came up in the context of the educational benefits for veterans. When Herb came home to NYC, he was sure he had unique life experiences, so went up to Columbia, sure that they would roll out the red carpet for him. He got tired of standing in a long line of similar vets, so took the subway down to NYU, where he completed his B.A. and was their first Rhodes scholar. Without the G.I. Bill, I can’t imagine what would have become of this unusual (to say the least) individual.

Meghan’s attempt to ingratiate herself with her father probably caused Chip ‘n Dale (aka Joe and Lindsey) to chatter angrily from their residence in the maverick’s crevasse.

good thing Joe the Plumber’s not an electrician, ‘cuz he sure is a dim bulb.

Very interesting story. In my work about the GI Bill I found incredible resistance from the “elite” institutions to allowing veterans in. The story of your husband is an example of both what the GI Bill was and what access to education in general can be. My dad was the first in his family to get a degree. He came home from WWII in the Pacific and went directly to the University of Illinois.In 1969 I had 10 days between Vietnam and the U of I as well.

Your remarks about Henry’s accent is interesting. I took a neuroliguistics (sp?) and a fellow named Steven Krashen had an theory called “fossilization” and used Kissenger as an example. The idea is that at some point the speaking ability of people speaking a second language reaches a point, fossilized, where it will never improve.

LBJ, much like Bush, did not want the GI Bill for Vietnam. When he finally had to sign it he noted that the WWII Bill was “the greatest economic flywheel” in history. What was it? A giant government stimulus program aimed at preventing a revolution that was inspired by the Bonus Army.

I don’t know anything about the context of my late’s story. (Which makes me a bit skeptical of oral history, but that’s another issue.) I got the impression that not getting into Columbia was because there were so many qualified vets, but it could well be because of anti-semitism. In those years the prestige schools had a quota for Jews that was less than those who would enter under religion-blind selection measures. Interestingly enough, my late did not play the discrimination card when telling the story. Nor any anti-vet resentment. Perhaps he didn’t know about that.

As for the accent, when I lived with my late’s considerable language skills for awhile, I decided it was in large measure inate. Some are born with it, and some are not. Herb was, Kissinger wasn’t. For all that, K WAY outdid Herb, though I would guess their intellectual raw material was comparable. What Herb didn’t have (and one of the things that endeared him to me) was political skills.

Yeah a halfwatt er Half wit at best:)

watertiger, as usual, throws tact to the wind:

I wonder how much Cindy is paying Fox to get her daughter laid.

ouch.

Plus unlike Henry he had a Soul:) Henry was the Cheney of his time.

I’m not sure he had a soul. IOW, if he had had K’s brownnosing skills, I’m not sure where he would have ended up. It was his ADD that capped him out, not his morals.

The more I learn about him the more I like him (not HK)!

Ms McCain: The republicans need some policies, other than “Cut Taxes”, “Large Militaristic Government”, and “Fuck the Citizenry”.

He died 22 years ago, and I have yet to meet a man who measures up to him. Yeah, he had bigtime shortcomings, but what an incredible guy.

Had second thoughts about that soul comment in 27. He used his intellect much more honestly than K. For example, he had an article published in some obscure journal in the late 1960s about how the domino theory was bunk. So probably, even if he’d had brownnosing skills (which he didn’t), he probably wouldn’t have used them like Henry the K.

I’m sure you meant well here, giving advice to someone who only recently entered into the political arena, but I’m not quite sure you gave her a fair shake in terms of her ability to understand what she is up against. Her primary complaint, besides that of picking on the likes of Ann Coulter, is that the Republican party as it is currently constituted doesn’t play well with folks her age. Yes, this is similar to Steele’s construction as well as that of Boehner, respecting their own (presumed) constituency, but it does reflect an awareness of politics that she identifies with and i should think this is to her advantage. In an earlier era, say back in the days of Barry Goldwater, there existed a strong Young Republican movement that, despite its being soundly outnumbered developed over the years into a strong party who took advantage of Ronald Reagan’s gift of communication to bring on a new era of conservatism in America, which, as often happens, was subsequently taken over by a new generation who winds up bringing it down. In any case, what we may be observing here in Meghan is the earliest signs of a new generation of Young Republicans who could wind up being the seeds of the next generation of Republicans in positions of power. The Young Republicans in those earlier days weren’t selling ideas, per se, they were merely reflecting their gut sense that Democrats would take this country in the wrong direction. They were conservatives, after all, and really didn’t want government running their lives, as they thought the democrats were hell-bent on doing. And though Meghan isn’t yet prepared to give political speeches, or to be able to talk out of both sides of her mouth, as many politicians are so capable of doing, she does represent a fresh face in what is currently a disaster of a Republican party. (Note, I speak as a Democrat who, if Democrats wind up making a mess of things, will look elsewhere.)

James

If I was into that soul jazz I’d say bless him.

The James? Semper Fi.

The Ds can only hope that Meghan is the new R face. While not as incompetent as Steele, Gingrich, etc., there’s something completely vapid about her that sez she is not the next new thing. Another new life for dumb blond jokes.

For your hypothesis to have substance, there would need to be substance in Meghan, which assumes facts not in evidence.

Forget Meghan McCain she is a Repuke.Look,It would be damned nice to see some progressive souls on Rachel’s show,people like Jane,Markos & David Brock for instance instead of the endless parade Repukes like Tim Pawlenty & Meghan McCain.

I didn’t recognize her without the racoon eyes mascara job. And I remember her as kinda ugly, like her dad. Her mom must have finally loosened up the purse strings for a makeover. Now she’s more vacuous than pathetic. That’s an improvement. Right?

I guess I wasn’t clear enough. I wasn’t suggesting Meghan carry the mantle of her generation. She is obviously not (yet) prepared to do that. However, her visibility may be just the spark needed to get something going within her generation. I don’t expect even it did ignite something that it would make much of a difference in the next ten years. Indeed, it might not happen at all if the Democratic party screws up badly and the folks currently floundering around in the Republican party gain a foothold and we wind up falling back to the Bush years. Laying the foundation of a new and better Republican party of the sort that Meghan would feel comfortable in would have to wait its turn, perhaps twenty years from now.

James