I know, I know. This subject has been talked to death. But there is a huge vacuum at the top of the Republican Party that is currently being filled by Rush Limbaugh’s ever-expanding ego. We’re about half-way through some Joseph Campbell hero cycle, where many noble challengers have boldly stepped forward to slay the beast but all have been forced to kneel and kiss the cyst. Eventually, someone put a hand on Jeremiah Wright’s shoulder and said "look, this isn’t helping," and he stepped off the stage. Everyone knows that’s not going to happen with Rush.
The GOP built Limbaugh up, and now they’re stuck with him — left to lob dirt bombs of faint hypocrisy at Barack Obama and Robert Gibbs who, much like the rest of us, are guilty of little more than an inability to control their laughter. Pundits are sputtering and pearl-clutching about the unseemly efforts of Carville, Begala and Greenberg to make the Republicans wear Limbaugh around their necks, but it rings pretty hollow after years of fawning praise for "boy genius" Karl Rove running skunk works out of the White House. As the country wakes up to how truly repugnant Rush is, there’s seemingly nobody with the moral authority to drive him back into his hole.
I was having a conversation last night about the fact that someone in the GOP could make a name for themselves taking on Rush, but it would have to be the right person. Newt may think it’s him, but his negatives are probably as high as Rush’s, and they’d just drag the whole thing further into the mud. Jim Baker may have the gravitas, but he has operated in the background for so long he’s not really a household word. My top pick was Orrin Hatch, whose social conservative credentials are good, but so far he has shown no appetite for the task. Palin, like Jindal, Pawlenty and Cantor, is too much of a lightweight. The only reason anyone listens to them is because nobody’s listening to Boehner, so his bellyaching is useless.
Someone suggested Huntsman, who quickly spotted how weak Jindal was and made headlines accusing him of "gratuitous political griping." He’s hugely popular in Utah with an 80% approval rating, and seems to be positioning himself as an outspoken party reformer. Could Limbaugh swallow him whole, like he’s doing with the rest of the party? Possibly. It may also be a matter of timing — the story is amusing now but wearing thin fast. A few days, a week, a month from now, Limbaugh will not have tired of the sound of his own voice, but the rest of the country probably will. If someone’s good at picking their moment — and Huntsman seems to be — they may be able to collect Limbaugh’s scalp and resurrect the GOP.



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Pat Robertson denounced him, but it didn’t seem to have much staying power.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..67569.html
I don’t suppose it will be Sarah Palin
( aHAHAHAHAHA )
My guess…the Mittster.
I’ve seen stories recently how he’s winning straw polls and will save the GOP in 2012. But he’s decided to stay out of the Limbaugh kerfluffle.
Smart or weak? You decide.
Scary. Huntsman almost seemed to be talking sense.
The other two names I’d throw into the mix would be Chuck Hagel and Charlie Crist. Hagel would be interesting since he’s out of the Senate and ostensibly not running for national office again. Crist would be on thinner ice, since he needs the Florida wingnuts on his side if wants to be reelected Governor or run for Martinez’s Senate seat.
the first sentence is laugh out loud hilarious, but i very strongly object to the second. limbaugh is a dangerous demagogue, wright otoh had some uncomfortable things to say – but none of it was hateful and quite a lot of it was prophetic in best sense of the word.
Why slay this dragon. He is more like puff the magic dragon = he just keeps on given. Oh! you mean the rethugs. HoHoHo hehehe
“where many noble challengers have boldly stepped forward to slay the beast but all have been forced to kneel and kiss the cyst.” Great line. I cannot think of a better indicator of a party that utterly lacks credibility than hoisting up the moral, intellectual and physical wreck known as Limbaugh. He really is the standard bearer for the GOP.
No we want to talk about this we got tons of material. We want Rush angry so he looses it when Al Franken finally becomes Senator. We want to push Rush into saying something Stupid even for him when Everybody is paying attention.
OK. I’ll go first. How about Joe Lieberman? There isn’t much left for him anyplace else. Go Joe, Go.
A new Rasmussen Poll says that only 11% of Repub voters think that Limbaugh is the leader of the party. We need to push the idea that Rush is their face harder.
No need to – they are quite successfully doing that all by themselves.
Mitt owns Clearchannel which owns Rush
So much anger is really hard on one’s heart and so is being a fat, closeted, drug addict. Methinks he’s his own slayer in the end.
Seconded I agree completely!
you know, rush is about the only person “the republican base” trusts
I think he could actually win a nomination for president in 4 years, I wonder if palin would mind running for vp again
Just throwing this out for consideration.
Jim Cramer and others are trying to marginalize the liberal/progressives by frequent mention of “President Pelosi.”
As a community committed to liberal/progressive goals, imvho, it’s critical that that the leader of the GOP be perceived as far to the right as possible. That makes it marginally tougher for the blue dogs.
OT, I’m not sure how this plays out in terms of campaign finance reform. AFAIK, a lot of the models were based on the two-part system. If the GOP fragments in the next election cycle, those models might not work.
I don’t expect any real Republican to take him on.
He’s the archetype of aging, obese, constipated (see opiates – synthetic) White Rage.
the gop is all bark and no bite these days and their bark has always been the limbaugh crowd. take that away and they’re nothing but big money grifters and end time religious nuts. as insulting and revolting as they are, the bitter-white-dude-rush-crowd is the best they got.
Mornin’ Jane,
Huntsman, along with Crist were my first guesses, but I believe both are gonna bide their time
and appropos of nothing, I flashed a plot line last summer where some Young Gun did it:
sharp, comely evangelical successfully calls movement leaders out for their failures, scores of disaffected younger followers send her numbers through the roof . . .
in my treatment, the plot crescendos to her revealing herself to be a progressive sleeper plant, Lowry puts down the Jergens and weeps in Jonah’s arms
was suppposed to be two-party
Timothy Eagan @ NYT writes about Rush the Hut.
To take out Rush you need a character assassin or a Big Mac not a Hero to end this tale tis time for a villain to enter the play and slay the
DragonBloat to make room for a hoped for greater evil yet to come.Much like a forest fire kills all the trees but improves the soil for a better more evil haunted forest in years to come.
Some posted last night.
If Limbaugh wants to debate President Obama, he should do it the old fashined way by winning the GOP nomination.
It’s really that simple.
Limbaugh never goes out and does the Daily Show or anything else, how does he get to call people out for being unwilling to get oustide of their own bubble.
I am sure Limbaugh on Johnn Stewart or Colbert would be epic fail. Vampire meet garlic.
-G
The party of Rush Limpballs, Sarah Palin, Joe the plumber and Ann Coulter. Sounds like a sequell to the Adams family.
To take out Rush you need Karl
Maybe Huntsman is putting his money on the economic situation getting so bad that even rethugs will have to, as he said, “put people ahead of party”
Does Mittens still have a financial interest in his old hedge fund shop? I didn’t know that he was still a partner(or whatever).
he is polling anathema to the vaunted Independents and Swing Voters
Oh, that’s interesting. I didn’t know that.
Campbell Brown called out Rush recently to debate, but the Daily Show that would be awesome:)
OT – senate banking hearing on AIG is in progress. dinallo is making his opening statement (hearing list with links is at oxdown)
Heh, and Steele just banned the word “outreach” from RNC Hindquarters.
believe it was just before 2000 Iowa Caucuses, but Carville debated him somewhere in Iowa – it was very much like a Warner Brothers cartoon with Carville playing Bugs and Rush channeling Yosemite Sam – believe it lasted about 5-7 minutes (former Mrs Limpbaugh wants to know how he managed to double his time)
I just watched the clip of Huntsman. And what caught my attention was the repeated references to needing to find solutions. Not for the first time, I am struck by the notion that whatever is promoted by liberals/Democrats/progressives requires a totally different “solution.” No wonder we are a divided nation, no less than during the Civil War (sans Gettysburg). And the Dems are no less responsible for this. Assuming the position seems always to mean, “Whatever the other side says is wrong, wrong, wrong. Shoot it down. Stomp it in case it survived the fall and put something else out there. Pretty much anything will do as long as it’s the polar opposite of what the opposition says/does/wants.
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Hamsher and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
“If someone’s good at picking their moment…they may be able to collect Limbaugh’s scalp and resurrect the GOP.”
Not gunna happen very soon, when Limbaugh falls there will be sooooo many little fascists covered with rotting blubber and no one positioned where it counts, that is, in Washington with a National spotlight. The fascist party needs to disintegrate through at least one more election cycle before they develop enough successful Governors and begin to send new Senators and Congress people to DC…a rebirth of American conservatism to replace the fascism that defines the rump party now is gunna hafta come from Governors from the Northeast and West and is gunna hafta make a complete break with the ideology of the slavocracy that has dominated since 1968. Real American political conservatism must reconnect with John Adams and lift itself out of the dungheap of American fascism that carries the logo of “the conservative movement” today.
In the meantime the Democratic Party needs to keep from bein’ bought out by the oligarchy that has left the GOP and depends on treasury bailouts to remain alive.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THIS WAR IS GUNNA GO ON AND ON AND…!!!
Jim Kramer is going to be on Colbert tonight.
-G
Rush would never eva stoop to debate a woman!
waa?
I think your criteria are right.
There’s nobody.
he is reviled more then bush himself, it would be fun watching him run
Uh, no. We, ‘the rest of the country’ were tired of this freakshow yesterday.
I mean, how long can one thrill to shooting fish in a barrel (or flightless birds on a overstocked quail farm, for that matter?)
I’d like to see Der Teminator take him on. I see a steel cage death match… let the fat fly. Ha!
During the 14 years he headed the company, Bain Capital’s average annual internal rate of return on realized investments was 113 percent,[12] making money primarily through leveraged buyouts.[13] He invested in or bought many well-known companies such as Staples, Brookstone, Domino’s, Sealy Corporation and Sports Authority.[14]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney
Mitt founded Bain he seems to have stepped away from running itbut I’m sure he still has a financial interest there.
However 14 years average annual return on investment 113% isn’t this Ponzai scheme numbers?
I want a look at his books I smell leverage like whats got the banks in trouble.
From TPM:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo…..hp?ref=fp1
True
I gave up cable :(
thanks.
but *sigh*
Wow… the GOP is really one side man short of a Minstrel Show aren’t they?
“You da man…” All she needed was black face and a tambourine.
The fact that major Republican party leaders are cowering before this twisted, petty, childish little man tells me everything I need to know about their credibility. If the Democratic party brass are smart (I know, that’s a stretch), they’ll seize the opportunity and exploit the fact that Republican elected officials are buckling before a diseased and half-bright radio talk show host.
As for challenging The Cyst from within? Huntsman might be a good choice, but he’d better be ready for vicious attacks from the far right wing of the party, as well as from King Ditto himself. If, however, someone does step up and then a few higher-ups close ranks behind…it just might work. What would be especially entertaining would be seeing The Boil’s ratings plummet so badly that Clear Channel would have to buy out his contract. Send this blowhard back into the oblivion from whence he came.
OT
but oh Lordy, Christy’s at it again!
707 x 707
hmm I guess that really wasn’t OT *g*
Very accurate assessment
Steele is a genius! *g*
Oh dawgggie! My fave calendar quote comes back again, like a bad pizza.
Supposed quote paraphrased from Napoleon, or some gaul dern fool, NOT:
“Never bother the enemy while he’s busy destroying hisownself.”
The pugs are in trubble. Do they even know it? Will they blame us for that also? along with every other withered thing in the universe?
I wouldn’t be surprised if Rush has a small plane incident or some other tragedy. It seems to be the preferred method for the behind-the-scenes conservative power brokers when they can’t control someone. And as the body count from Enron and the White House email guy indicates, they don’t just eliminate Democrats.
Or maybe, in a less sinister plot, it’ll be good old blackmail. I’m sure some incriminating photos from Rush’s boy prostitute junkets to the Dominican Republic could encourage him to retire from public life…
To avoid things like that, Rush is careful to not step on George H.W. Bush’s toes.
Every time I think of Paul Wellstone, I think of this. Then someone smacks me down and says my tinfoil hat is crushing my brain.
I’m interested in this separation that the R’s are trying to create between hoping that Obama (or his policies, there’s no functional difference) fail, and their assertion that of course that doesn’t mean they want the COUNTRY to fail. There is no daylight between the two. It’s like the Republicans saying they will not feed the cat, and they won’t let the Democrats feed the cat, but of course they don’t want the cat to die! The country’s economic failure or recovery are a FUNCTION of whether Obamas’ policies succeed or fail. One is a result of the other, and it is not possible to separate them. Just as the failure of the Wallstreet was a direct result of the failure of Bush’s free market, deregulation policies.
“gaul”… snort, snicker….
http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/co…..74aa?imw=Y
Rush is not earning Mitt money.
I’m old enough to remember Joe McCarthy crashing and burning as Joe Welsh cut his balls off in the Army McCarthy Hearings, and at some point this situation will resolve itself similarly. That is Slimebaugh is eventually going to take enough rope to hang himself. There is a key difference, however. Unlike the 1950s, there are no adults left in the Republican Party; they’ve all been marginalized, if not driven out. There are no Eisenhowers or Rockefellers, or even Nixons to pick up the pieces.
Yes Rush will retire for health reasons then and Mitt will need someone else at ClearChannel to bring in the votes.
Proof read. Should have been “Joe Welch”, not “Welsh.”
“Unlike the 1950s, there are no adults left in the Republican Party; they’ve all been marginalized, if not driven out. There are no Eisenhowers or Rockefellers, or even Nixons to pick up the pieces.”
Excellent news!
Yeah or Obama is spending money like its a bad thing to spend money to put people to work?
Or does the GOP want Hoover Towns again?
The goopers have a problem- they need to change and they know it- but their “BASE” (the most ignorant part of american society) won’t let them….
Poor goopers- everywhere they go- there they are.
That’s what I keep yelling at my computer – if the prez fails, so does the country. We have Bush as a great example.
As I recall, less than 30% of americans call themselves goopers. This INCLUDES the whacked out ditto heads. The goopers would like to be able to appeal to SANE americans- but if they lose the ditto heads, that’s half their membership..
What to do- oh what to do!
Limbaugh’s trajectory seems to be following that of Sen. Joe McCarthy. It will be interesting to see if the crash and burn at the end is as spectacularly entertaining.
now just stoppit! i can’t stop giggling as it is, and people are beginning to stare. *snerk*
Well, yes, that is the Republicans view point. They DO think that spending Gov’t money to put people (American Citizens) to work is a bad thing, and they DO think that those people (American Citizens) who fail to keep their jobs and their homes should live in Hoovervilles. No one ever demands that Republicans actually define their version of success or failure. If Obama’s policies failed, what would the country look like? How would we tell that the policies had failed without the country’s failure as proof? Is proof of failure people (American Citizens) starving in the streets, or people (American Citizens) going to a Recovery job every day, living in their homes, and contributing to the economy? Or is their vision of the success or failure of the country based purely on whether we followed Republican policies- by definition the country would fail because we followed Democratic principles?
Well, that’ll teach me to CBR (comment before reading).
Adults to prod them or not, people like Limbaugh and McCarthy always implode in the end (see Newt Gingrich for a recent example). With no real leadership to step in after the crash, what we might be seeing now is the disintegration of the GOP, much like the Whig Party came apart over slavery.
Rush will stick around for as long as he wants to maintain his act. He has a loyal audience and they are not going away. They NEED someone to articluate their fears and hatreds and Rush is as good as anyone at doing it- he also provides what seems to them to be intellectual justification for their views.
The sooner Rush zips his lips the sooner the Repubs reorganize. Let them struggle. Helping them only hurts us.
Limpballs is the dying Star that the lower planetoids are orbiting. As the Star weakens the planetoids are either sucked into the enormous flickering blob or spin off into oblivian. If the blob is refueled with corporate money it could sustain itself for a few more..if not the ball burns out.
Jim Cramer should be careful … Stephen made Stephen Moore of the WSJ look like an even bigger ass than he usually does.
At which point you need to know the facts to throw back in their faces about the Bush Crime Family. Russ Baker’s “Family of Secrets” is pretty good (altho there are many errors that no one writing a book of this supposed scope should have made) or Wes Tarpley’s “The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush” which is available completely free online at the link below:
http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm
Jane, this is one of your best. “Who will slay the Limbaugh Dragon?” is just so on target, so direct. Brilliant.
I would say Ahnold could take him on because he has already demonstrated a certain independence from groupthink. Not necessarily to win anything except bragging rights. Mitt is so dang wimpy.
Steele could have seized this opportunity if he was a genuine agent of change and reform within the party. But no!!!!
The whole GOP party is like some Princess complaining to her Prince, we never talk. OK, what do you want to talk about? the fact that we never talk. They have nothing to say. That is the real problem.
But I read somewhere that Steele was threatened that he would be fired if he didn’t make nice with Rush. Hmmm…wonder why we don’t treat Jon Stewart or Colbert or even Keith or Rachel with the reverence that they treat Jaba the Rush!
I could agree with much of what Wright said early on, especially (when taken in context) his God damn America sermon. It really was spot on. We have much that shames us. Too bad he let his ego rule later on. Rush is a pretty good comedian. Give him that.
I hadn’t read that, but wow. However, that is part of the deal of slaying the dragon…one must have integrity and the best weapon to slay a dragon like this is the Truth. If Steele were committed to the cause of reinventing a conservative movement for reasonable and sane people, he would not be beholden to Limbaugh. If the RNC as it exists insists on protecting Limbaugh, then it needs to be burned to the ground and the phoenix shall rise from its ashes. Steele doesn’t realize that.
It probably takes an outsider to do it. One cannot be welcomed as a prophet in one’s own hometown.
I have a question, and i hope someone can answer it.
jane writes,
why, why, why would you want to hasten that day? every day he’s in the spotlight he makes the GOP look worse and worse, driving down their favorable ratings, and making them look weak. Thanks to rush, the GOP is marginalized more and more, or is that a misperception on my part?
we are on the verge of passing some great legislation, and perhaps even more if we have electoral gains in 2010. while i understand the need for an opposition party (and i sure wish the dems had played that role more effectively in 2000-2008), why would anyone want to “collect Limbaugh’s scalp and resurrect the GOP”.
Serious question. When the GOP was strong all they did was pass bad legislation; when they were weakened, they still managed to obstruct and water down important bills; why on earth would you want to throw rush under the bus when he’s doing our work for us to his own party?
Thanskl for any responses.
Last night Keith Olbermann showed a wonderful montage of some of Rush’s rants. Those montages (Jon Stewart does them well also) are very effective…although I don’t suppose Rush’s followers watch Keith.
Perhaps because he’s gaining market share on his radio show? He’s getting free publicity with every news cycle. Some of these folks that go to his show find common ground with Jaba the Rush, believe it or not, so they stay.
I’m secretly hoping Rahm has a secret stash of photos of Rush down in the Dominican Republic that he’s planning to throw up on the web at just the right moment.
“Perhaps because he’s gaining market share on his radio show? He’s getting free publicity with every news cycle”
You really think that? His free publicity is ALL BAD.
Yes, I really think that. More importantly, I heard it’s polled that way. All this hullabaloo about Rush is good for him, and good for Dems, but bad for Rethugs (which is why it’s good for Dems!) But you know what they say: there is no such thing as bad publicity as long as they spell your name right!
Let’s continue to publish Limbaugh’s grotesque quotes.
That will help define “the voice of the GOP”.
Jane
Paging Rick Warren! …
With Dobson slithering back into his hole, and the need to untethered El Dittohead Grande, and let him float away, Warren can go for a “TwoFer”, taking over the GOP, with the Jesus Freaks back pulling the levers …
Peace
JTD
The Garlic
Call me old-fashioned (feel free; my kids do, all the time) but I believe the two-party system is good for the country, as long as both parties are working for the good of the nation. The GOP quit doing that some time ago and is no longer a positive force in U.S. government.
I was just a young working stiff when Senator Everett McKinley Dirksen, R-Illinois, voted for cloture on the Civil Rights Act with the comment:
That was then; this is now. Maybe the GOP doing what’s right for the country once again—long odds, I agree—without vicious blow-hards like Limbaugh calling the shots may happen. At least it’s worth a shot. The only other option is the elimination of the GOP and formation of a new party, and God only knows what happens then.
“all have been forced to kneel and kiss the cyst.”
the perfect metaphore
michael steel in da hood. hilarious.
http://tinyurl.com/avu3z6
kiss the cyst
Bravo!
For a Shopped version of just how disgusting the Corpulent One and his sycophants are, see http://www.urantiansojourn.com…..ook-alikes
I think the only Republican who can do it right now is Ron Paul. He alone seems unaffected by whatever Rush Limbaugh might say. And, Ron Paul has the ability to significantly affect Rush’s audience, while Rush probably cannot do much to diffuse Paul’s rabidly loyal base.