Comments on: Pelosi — She’s Got a Little List!

By: Blub

Blub — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 17:20:54 +0000

I have, of course, but that’s not my point. Nixon put his list together because it was the politically expedient/convenient thing to do. The Leninist rethugs that followed institutionalized these principles and turned them into a system of governance… the literature on this is quite abundant. Politicians have been using hate lists and other dirty tricks for a long time, Nixon included. Reed/Gingrich/et al turned it into a machine, the likes of which this country has never seen before, and which culminated into our nightmare of the last 8 years – the so-called “permanent Republican majority.” They had a plan, they carried it out. Nixon may have been an inspiration, but he didn’t built this particular set of anti-democractic institutional systems.

By: Ann in AZ

Ann in AZ — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:57:10 +0000

Aren’t secret shite lists basically the foundation of the entire structure of the contemporary rethug party, beginning from Reagan’s time, when Reed, Newt et al basically started the decades-long transition of the party into a Leninist administrative structure (actually, I think it was Reed who first said that it was a Leninist governance model, so that’s not me trying to insulting or provocative)? Heck, by now they probably have a national list of “disloyal” Americans. Many of us are probably on that list.

Blub, have you not heard of Nixon’s “enemies list”? How about Joe McCarthy. My point is, this stuff goes way, way back. And it also includes both parties, but Dem’s seemed to still be trying to be kinder and gentler. Just like Dems to be trying to wage a campaign from 20 or 30 years ago!

By: selise

selise — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:51:23 +0000

re the ‘94 elections. don’t think clinton using his political capital to get nafta passed help. for a lot of people i think that was the nail in the coffin re the D party – that it no longer represented the working class.

By: Blub

Blub — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:50:53 +0000

yep.. that was precisely the type of mechanism that Reed/Newt set out to evolve and which Rove so effectively further developed. They used a Leninist party model (which probably did become more Stalinist over time) including the use of planned periodic purges as a means of assuring loyalty and ideological purity. This was the model.. and, by gosh, they achieved it – a disciplined, neo-fascist, anti-Humanist, wingnut party, from the local cell level all the way up to the national leadership. Rethugs are the ultimate threat to national security…..

By: selise

selise — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:48:45 +0000

if AIG goes down, so do a lot of pension funds and god knows what else. They fucked us all up big time. It’s alot like what the Bush-Cheney cabel did for us in Iraq. We are still paying and will be for a long time a shitload of money in that place just to get our troops out. The AIG fiasco is analogous, though privately generated. I read somewhere that there is a move on to get the Europeans to help out, as they are as deep in this as we are.

re aig. well the administration could be telling us the truth and bailing out the pension funds instead off covering naked cdss. but that would take spine. what it looks like to me is that $ is going to bailout aig which could be going to supporting the real economy.

re europe. at the moment, it looks to me that they are in bigger trouble than we are because they are don’t have a central banker like we do and they also have eastern europe about to crash and burn which would bring down several eu members who are in deep with loans. although if that happens it will be bad for us too. so in the end i have to agree with you that we are all in this together.

By: earlofhuntingdon

earlofhuntingdon — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:47:48 +0000

“Lists” are code for Stalinist-like purges. Odd, those are what the Monika Gottlings used at the DOJ and elsewhere to weed out those not religious or Republican enough to belong on the nomenklatura.

By: Phoenix Woman

Phoenix Woman — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:35:32 +0000

Exactly.

By: Phoenix Woman

Phoenix Woman — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:35:04 +0000

A-yep.

By: cbl2

cbl2 — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:34:33 +0000

PW,

Harris and Pool Boy are gonna give this little shit disturber Thrush an
A++ for finding a new way to ~~discuss~~push Dems In Disarray®, he’s probably gonna get the Milk Money Monitor gig as well :D

By: Phoenix Woman

Phoenix Woman — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:34:21 +0000

No kidding!