There’s a whole host of evidence that Bobby Jindal’s story about Katrina from his truly disastrous SOTU rebuttal was, shall we say, fabricated. Ben Smith reports Jindal is walking it back:
A spokeswoman for Bobby Jindal now says the Louisiana governor didn’t intend to imply that an anecdote about battling bureaucrats "during Katrina" actually took place during the heat of the rescue effort or directly involved the governor, then a member of Congress.
The spokeswoman, Melissa Sellers, said the story Jindal told in his response to Obama actually took place some days later in Lee’s office, as Lee was recounting his frustrations with the bureaucracy to someone else on the telephone.
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"It was days later," Sellers said. "Sheriff Lee was on the phone and the governor came down to visit him. It wasn’t that they were standing right down there with the boats."
She said she thought Lee, who died in 2007, "was doing an interview" about the incident with the boats when the governor described him yelling into the phone.
Now, here’s what Jindal said:
During Katrina, I visited Sheriff Harry Lee, a Democrat and a good friend of mine. When I walked into his makeshift office I’d never seen him so angry. He was yelling into the phone: ‘Well, I’m the Sheriff and if you don’t like it you can come and arrest me!’ I asked him: ‘Sheriff, what’s got you so mad?’ He told me that he had put out a call for volunteers to come with their boats to rescue people who were trapped on their rooftops by the floodwaters. The boats were all lined up ready to go – when some bureaucrat showed up and told them they couldn’t go out on the water unless they had proof of insurance and registration. I told him, ‘Sheriff, that’s ridiculous.’ And before I knew it, he was yelling into the phone: ‘Congressman Jindal is here, and he says you can come and arrest him too!’ Harry just told the boaters to ignore the bureaucrats and start rescuing people.
Okay so let’s envision this. Jindal is saying that days after Katrina hit, he walks into Lee’s office. The Sheriff’s is yelling into the phone, recounting his frustrations to a friend. Jindal overhears this and says "that’s ridiculous," so Lee tells the friend on the phone to come and arrest Jindal. Completely independent of any of this, Lee had told the boaters to ignore the bureaucrats days before. And Jindal never meant to imply that he used his status as a Congressman to heroically intercede on behalf of people in need of rescue against evil bureaucrats indifferent to human suffering. Lee is now conveniently deceased, so nobody can confirm one way or the other.
Ben says "liberal critics" have raised questions with the story. If everyone who has a problem with that story is a liberal, our numbers are bigger than I think.



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Smoke his ass.
why is anyone surprised?
Why do so many people in the republican party have such an aversion to the truth. Really! Republicans veracity be thy enemy.
I have never watched more than a few minutes of Jindal, he just seems like a lightweight to me. If this is the GOP’s future hope, they are in worse shape than I thought.
Tim “take a nap” Pawlenty, in a relative sense, appears to have the most “gravitas” of the whole sorry bunch.
can’t bayou love.
What I really want to know is the story behind that exorcism.
Does anyone know if the exorcism article exists in a place NOT behind a firewall. In a just world, it would be everywhere.
The audacity of dopes
This is not a damn bit different than Hillary’s story about sniper fire in Bosnia.
Jindal the exorcist
http://tpmelectioncentral.talk….._the_d.php
Damn it feels good to be a liberal critic.
Ah! there you go. And I still get a kick out of the Huckabee Popped Squirrel tale.
Except that Hillary didn’t offer that story as part of an argument to shape/change public policy.
If we’re going to have government by anecdotes, they should at least be accurate anecdotes.
Hard to believe both Jindal and Vitter are Rhodes scholars.
Of course the competition for that progam varies wildly because the slots are “regionalized”.
Intelligent Design has forsaken the Republican Party.
She offered it as an attempt to be the one to shape/change public policy.
and he refers to himself as a person with conservative values. At least now I know ‘honesty’ isn’t a conservative value.
wtf does than mean, no morons but in the south? Yesterday there was a big thread about Peter King, he’s in mensa huh?
Print does not do justice to the sing-song quality of the delivery, but I guess that’s already been covered!
Never surprised when they lie, but I’m always surprised when an intelligent person tells a whopper in public that can be easily checked.
If he had been punished for lying as a child, he’d know how to construct his lies a lot better. Worked on us as kids.
omg, I know you’re mad, raven, but your retort made me LOL.
Down boy!
Which is not the same thing at all.
Educated idiots seem to be evenly distributed nationally.
Yeah!
I didn’t eat the cookies becomes Dad SAID I could have a cookie!
Being a moron does not have anything to do with geography. Look at Michele Bachmann.
Look at Michele Bachmann.
yeah, she be da man!
Frankly, I think Peter King was just plainly jealous that a prisoner enjoys more sunshine during February than he does. Something about emotional intelligence or ignorance working there.
Stephanie Miller is praying for a ticket with both bobby and michelle on it. Bachmann Jindal Overdrive.
Thanks. Hadn’t read that. Still trying to get to the original article penned by Jindal.
Yep. You learn to critique your own story, and anticipate the weaknesses. Try to get at least a sliver of fact on your side. You don’t just blow something out there, because you’re certain to be caught, and then….
when someone tells a whopper on the teevee, 80% of those who heard the whopper don’t follow up or hear more about it, esp. when those running the teevee station don’t want it to be publicised.
ya think the limbaughbots really care about the truth? or the fence-sitters who just go by what cnn or faux tells them?
the only people interested in the truth are those who lean a certain direction to begin with. that’s my half a cent.
That was for foothillsmike at 9
Which she made in somewhat less prominent circumstances.
not really, I’m from Chi-town, I just live in Georgia.
LMAO!!!
Well you are safe from Bolton now.
35 for you
You can bet they would take care of business.
Yes. Which makes Jindal’s little fantasy that much more inexplicable, at least to me…he had to know people would check, as soon as it became apparent there were, shall we say, issues with it….Wow.
I live in the South — NC……not intended as a negative comment on people from the South.
I should have been more clear. It offends me that people use the Rhodes scholar tag as if each recipient is, by definition, brilliant. They’re obviously not. Competition for the spots does vary wildly because of the way the selection process is segmented.
’twas none other than the Bard himself who pondered:
to be da man
or not be da man
that is the question
Oh, I understand that Bolton is gunning for your home town to be the next target (chicago that is). When hawks are cornered, they want a bomb to drop.
He just had the facts exorcised.
haha, you ain’t see nothing yet!
“I do know the slickest way to lie is to tell just the right amount of truth-and then shut up.”
-Robert Heinlein
Jindal’s standard is considerably below that.
And Hillary got called on her bogus story and spent several days in deep embarrassment. So you’re right, Jindal should have known he’d be checked.
The other difference between the 2 incidents is that Hillary has said a lot of intelligent stuff at other times and places. Jindal not so much.
esp. when we know vitter uses his other head to make decisions.
You lost me at “Jindal’s standard”
since rush commanded is minions not to critisize jindal, there really aren’t any republicans that are fealess enough to degy rushbo
True. And she had a lot of good will with a lot of people, including me..but that little foray into combat-fantasy cost her a lot of support, even among people who really supported her.
Undeterred by the reception of Jindal’s speech, and the growing examination of its truthiness, the GOP marches steadfastly onward . . .
From The Hill:
Good luck with that, fellas.
Jindal is the standard-bear of the Republic party.
Interestingly the rights latest heroes chose to lie to the American public when they were given their first platform to speak to America from:
Sarah Palin: “I said thanks but, no thanks”
Joe the Plumber: Lied to candidate Obama about starting his own plumbing business.
Bobby Jindal: see above
no, they could really raise some money with that speach, something like so;
“how are we gonna survive this speech without cash?”
Never could figure out why she said that. I’m sure she has plenty of true anecdotes that would work. It might have been a brain fart but I think she told the story more than once.
Think: (Romper Room + Barney Fife) / 2 = Jindal Delivery. (Estimate is an approximation. Nor is it meant in any way to denigrate either Romper Room or any Mayberry personnel.)
don’t forget, rushbo commanded them to treat jindal like the real deal.
rush is treating jindal like his personal page
Michael?
We’re talkin’ some serious money on that deal….
Yellowsnapdragon at 9:52 – the exorcist article written by Jindal is embedded in the article you viewed, it is actually at http://www.newoxfordreview.org…..294-jindal
The post is not about Hillary telling a lie. It is about Thee Choice of the Republican Party, sent out to rebut the President of the United States, telling a lie. If I recall correctly, a long debunked lie at that.
I expect we’ll be seeing this bumper sticker at some point.
Interestingly the rights latest heroes chose to lie to the American public when they were given their first platform to speak to America from:
Sarah Palin: “I said thanks but, no thanks”
Joe the Plumber: Lied to candidate Obama about starting his own plumbing business.
Bobby Jindal: see above
Don’t forget Barak Obama who promised to turn America into a workers paradise in the first 2 weeks in office!
Thanks Jane, digg is open.
Here’s Josh on the subject
the streets are paved with comedy gold.
I am aware of the topic of the post..what I was doing was drawing a comparison between the topic of the post and a similar situation with which most are familiar. This allows us to also compare the subsequent reactions.
Hillary stepped in it on that deal. However, there would seem (at least in my mind) to be some difference between making an off-the-cuff remark in the heat of a campaign (however idiotic the utterance) and reading a complete fabrication from a teleprompter in response to a presidential address to a joint session.
But that’s just me…
I’m going to get him to autograph my hammer & sickle flag the next time he comes here.
The “this post is about police” are out in force. . .whoop-tee-doo
It’s subscription only. can only read first few paras
Na Na Na Na
Na Na Na Na
Hey Hey Hey
GOODBYE
bobby jindal, consummate liar, politically DEAD, February, 2009
that’s one the things i don’t get – most politicians lie. a lot. but why such a v stupid lie?
Fair enough. All Hillary had to say was, “the threat of sniper fire…” and it’s all okay. Jindal did stand there and completely read a prepared, fabricated story. Okay. I will grant a difference of degree, but IMO the impulse was the same.
See my 19 & 29. What I can’t believe is, no one on his staff, or the RNC, said, “Are you sure you should say this part?”
This elephant?
Jane, off topic, but just to punctuate your terrific ACCOUNTABILITY NOW post earlier this morning.
Here’s a perfect example. Chemical industry calls for tougher regulation
Through the Bush years, the American Chemistry Council was the paid attack dog/money launderer for chemical producers. In September 2008, the ACC hired Ultra-BLUE dog, Cal Dooley as President.
Probably so. How things ultimately turned out? Would I rather see HC as Secy of State or Bobby J? Um….No contest.
John
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/…..s-chicago/
Just goes to show you what a tight machine he’s running. How does something like that even make it onto a teleprompter? Jeez…
Kinda my point.
also inexplicable.
btw, good on you holding our own pols to the standards we apply to the Rs. thanks.
applying the same standards to Rs and Ds does not imply a preference for Rs.
dear ron, with all due respect, where were you the last 30 years?
ever heard of attwater? or rove? i’m betting ya one of those repub ’strategists’ actually asked him to say it.
The rethugs are in the heat of a campaign
No doubt! I still have to catch myself…no more Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, etc., etc., and very little prospect at the moment for their would-be inheritors like Palin and Jindal to have any hope.
The sun shines a little brighter, when I think about that.
you know, these guys all get the speech in advance, don’t they? it was like Jindal was anticipating responding to a different more partisan dem speech. it was so idiotic.
Sorry yellowsnapdragon, the article at http://www.newoxfordreview.org…..294-jindal provides only the opening paragraphs and then requires payment. I am not prepared to pay as I read enough. He is relating another anecdote and we know now truth is not all that important in his relating his little life lessons. What is evident however, even in the short portion that is available, is that the guy is an emotional cripple. He has a young woman with him at his invitation and she becomes distraught. Jindal laments that he was incapable of helping her because he is so immature and concerned that offering solace would be misinterpreted by others. He leaves her to despair until a real friend arrives and intercedes while he watches and analyzes his own limitations, making up excuses for being inhumane. The article is very revealing even to this point and says a lot about this compassionate conservative. His hollow and shallow speech the other night is no surprise given his impotence as he relates in the 1994 item.
OT Obama acting to remove “conscience” re healthcare workers who refuse to take part in abortions. Bush’s little leftover gift which started the day Obama took office.
When Rush said Bobby was “the next Ronald Reagan” I guess he mean Bobby’s penchant for creative story-telling that burnished his own reputation and put him in the middle of stories that he had nothing to do with.
Can you imagine how ticked off Rove et al are at having their war expenses exposed? It’s like that hurt more than any accusation of torture…
add to that the fact that no one of the group that was there supposedly has come forward to collaborate? I could understand if the girl in question wants nothing to do with him, if this truly took place. the whole thing is just weird if true and even stranger if he made it up.
actually, i can’t imagine rove getting ticked off at any thing other than his sorry ass being in the slammer. we have to stop attributing human emotions to these life forms.
the comment above was in response to this one.
Likewise with all respect, I have worked on campaigns since 1980, and I have closely followed them since I was old enough to try and figure out why my uncle wasn’t coming home from Nam. I have been tear-gassed twice during protests. I have been in the trenches, and the streets, for almost my entire life. I am very familiar with Atwater, and Rove, and I am fairly certain that those two masters of deception would have structured their lie much more cunningly than that.
Where have you been for the last 30 years?
i’m still baffled. after all the mud-slinging from mccain, palin and gang, all the lies uttered until two months ago and continuing to be uttered on a daily basis, why would you expect anyone on the RNC to expect jindal to get facts straight??
I don’t expect them to get facts straight…I simply expect them to structure their lies in such a way as to make them more believable, in such a way that it doesn’t just blow up in their face immediately. Machiavelli might wonder if it wasn’t a deliberate attempt to sabotage Jindal, and thus get him out of the way.
dear ron, they are more stupid than you think they are.
They are crafty but they certainly are not stupid. That description falls to their followers.
I profoundly hope so.
LOL !!!
“Machiavelli might wonder if it wasn’t a deliberate attempt to sabotage Jindal, and thus get him out of the way.”
actually, you’re on to something here.
i think jindal’s part of obama’s sleeper cell in the republican party. kinda like jim cooper is in the democratic party.
Further to my remark at #88 about Jindal being an emotional cripple, the article at http://tpmelectioncentral.talk….._the_d.php has this excerpt, presumably from Jindal’s 1994 essay:
”Whenever I concentrated long enough to begin prayer (while watching this purported exorcism), I felt some type of physical force distracting me. It was as if something was pushing down on my chest, making it very hard for me to breathe. . . Though I could find no cause for my chest pains, I was very scared of what was happening to me and Susan. I began to think that the demon would only attack me if I tried to pray or fight back; thus, I resigned myself to leaving it alone in an attempt to find peace for myself.”
So, he again opts to embrace his own discomfort and not risk himself in aide to his friend. I make no argument that the event was valid or not, only that he claims he believes it and yet he was incapable of helping, only able to be an observer to another’s pain. Jindal displays the capacity to be able to assert that he feels others’ pain but that he is not able to do anything to help if his own skin is in the game.
Jindal said on national television, the incident happened “during Katrina.” I wonder if he’d care to extend and revise his remarks? Will the Nets give him some time?
I have not read the comments, but have to raise the question. Not knowing when he showed up in the office…wouldn’t it have to have been pretty late in the events? If the folks were still on the rooftops, as he seems to say, he could not himself have gotten to the sheriff, etc. The facts do not add up; the sheriff is screaming for boats…did Jindal just drop in? Ferry in? Sorry, Lee is gone. The scenario does not make sense; folks were hardly able to get into NO from Baton Rouge during those early days. Just a thought