bring ‘em on .. please ….

I wouldn’t underestimate the rage in that room. Have you read that gun sales are up 500% since the election? Survivalist thinking is running rampant.

DeMint will soon be on Beck’s show, I’d bet. The particular episode will be called, “Another One Flew Into the Cuckoo’s Nest.”

what precisely does it mean for conservatives to take to the streets?

oh, this:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/…..index.html

BTW, does CPAC stand for ‘Conservatives Perpetually Acting Crazy?’

Looks as if Jane as gotten to Jim Cooper (TN-05), who seems to be supporting Obama’s budget

“The American people have been denied the truth for many years,” said Representative Jim Cooper, a Tennessee Democrat who is a longtime budget hawk. “They are willing to take their medicine if it leads to a strong country.”

So much for Wolf Blitzer’s assertion yesterday that liberal bloggers are a headache for the Democrats.

Re the government’s third Citigroup bailout, I could not say it better than this:

But remind us again why these preferred shareholders are going to convert? Thanks to the ever-generous Timothy Geithner, the conversion price is $3.25. Citi’s stock is now available for $1.80. So why, exactly, are the private-market preferred holders like Prince Alwaleed going to give up their preference and fat preferred dividend to overpay for common stock?

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-…..rs-to-Rest

Geithner will convert $25 billion in preferred stock with its dividend to joke common stock status. It will increase government ownership to 36%. It already owns 8% so that’s $25 billion for 26% of the company whose current value, as I write, is $8.34 billion (with a stock price of even lower than quoted above: $1.51.)

CPAC is live on cspan.

The Jindal is Kenneth the Page facebook page is over 16,000 now, while the “Take to the streets” Malkin, Wurzelbach Teabagger group is 3,900. The Teabagger group is older too. The “Kenneth” group hopes to surpass the official Jindal page, so join in here:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=53556541031

GregB said it a long time ago, but it bears repeating:

“The Timothy McVeigh wing of the Republican Party is going to get the band back together.”

You mean there is life in CPAC

sorry.. can you provide us with a few definitions of these groups?

neanderthals were “alive”.. they just lacked certain aspects of advanced cognitive development we now associate with homo sapiens.

It pays to know the enemy.

College republicans? You mean there are young republicans.

Even my Senator Boxturtle was sufficiently unnerved to the point of pleading for moderation.

Dr. Frankenstein, may I present your monster?

this new plan is even more assinine than the original one. Just nationalize the stinker – Congress needs to force a tender for 100% of the common, depose management, and then break the thing up. I don’t see any other alternative at this point. Pandit actually told the press that, with the government deal, he gets to stay in control, as if this is going to reassure anybody or that anyone has the slightest bit of confidence in his abilities to run anything more financially complicated than a taco stand.

What a non-stop freakshow!

All that’s missing is the half-man, half-alligator and the bearded lady.

How can these people possibly think America is gonna put them back in charge anytime soon?

Yeah, that was my thought…

“Sedagive???”

you’re more polite than barry ritholtz: Citigroup: World’s Worst Investment to Get Even Worse

Its just another example of why these insolvent banks should be nationalized, or for you squeemish free marketers, FDIC mandated, pre-packaged Chapter 11, government funded reorganization.

If Obama continues to listen to the god-awful advice of Larry Summers and Tim Geithner, he will doom his presidency, and finsh marginally ahead of George W. Bush on the list of worst presidents.

This is not change we an believe in . . .

I loved Kenneth the Page in Talledega Nights. I would love to see him and Jindal (hushed tone) mano y mano!

I can’t believe such a macho party (see CPAC) is putting Jindal forward as their mascot.

Jim DeMint: The world’s best example of inhumanity. Congratulations.

Even my Senator Boxturtle was sufficiently unnerved to the point of pleading for moderation.

Dr. Frankenstein, may I present your monster?

But, but I thought that advocating for the violent overthrow of the gov’t was a crime. A major, major crime.

Is Jon Voight there?

Is Dennis Miller?

O’Reilly?

I did read elsewhere that Rushbo will address the multitudes tomorrow.

I dunno… Cornyn, Shelby, Inhofe, Graham, Vitter and a few others are all close contenders as well….

Take to the gutters, more like.

Are they giving away free robes and hoods, too? These people are freaking scary. John Bolton scares the beejeebus outta me. what a bloodthirsty crowd.

So much for Wolf Blitzer’s assertion yesterday that liberal bloggers are a headache for the Democrats.

now there’s a medical miracle .. a hemorrhoid diagnosing a headache .. eh ??

Why aren’t these people embarrassed that a talk show host is the leader of their party? I would be horrified if even a liberal Democratic talk show host was considered that way – don’t they have any actual leaders somewhere? Guess not.

maybe we should let them “take to the streets”.. if they call for rallies and marches and nobody shows up to the party, then they look lame, especially if the progressive counterprotest is about twenty times the size. If they show up and act anything like the “Obama is an A-raab” woman at the McCain-Palin ralley, then people will just feel disgusted and threatened. If they start having white sheet rallies and threatening to burn down or blow up stuff, then, well, gitmo will probably still be open by them for some new inmates….. let’s rendition ‘em all to Vermont.

Just for the record, had a Democratic senator called for marching in the streets 38 days after Bush had stolen the election from Gore, s/he would have been called a traitor.

wouldn’t “take to the streets”.. be considered inciting a riot?

OT – to Siun:

occasionally smug Al Giordano’s talkin‘ about you and FDL, not too fondly.

I should have said above that is $25 billion for 28% of Citi.

As for: Citigroup: World’s Worst Investment, I think that honor has to go to AIG but Citi is right up there. Geithner will be buying Citi common stock at more than twice its current worth. Pocket change from the TARP could buy the whole company. It is just amazing, and deeply, deeply disconnected from reality how financial types like Geithner are willing to sink endless amounts of money into banks and financial companies on really sucky terms, and even do it multiple times, and get nothing in return. And yet for real companies in the real economy representing real jobs, they do as little as they possibly can.

actually happened.

As Steele concluded his remarks, Minnesota Rep. Michelle Bachmann — the event’s moderator — told Steele he was “da man.” “Michael Steele! You be da man! You be da man,” she said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..70426.html

Oh God.

the reason is that you’d rather piss off the people who voted for you than piss off those saudi princes.

http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes……citigroup/

There are plenty of geeks.

Let ‘em take to the streets. And if they get the kind of news coverage we got when hundreds of thousands of us demonstrated against Bush/the war, then nobody’ll notice.

if you say so. i confess, i can’t even look yet at the numbers re aig v citi.

from yesterday: AIG Rescue May Include Credit-Default Swap Backstop

I brought up this point last night. That it is always interesting to see what is not being talked about in this mess, and the role of Saudi princes and sovereign wealth funds are two that there has been little discussion of.

I think we have sunk $45 billion into Citi but the stupid backing up of their crap assets. For AIG, we have dumped in at least $150 billion and as the title of the article you link to suggests a backstop for CDSs could mean a lot, lot more. Again one of the virtually untold stories in this is where the AIG money is going (hedge funds?) and for what (covering naked CDSs). It is a scam of vast proportions which the government rather than putting an end to is funding.

…Cornyn was subsequently bound, gagged, and dragged out to the Omni Shorham’s parking lot where he was set on fire…

Hmmm…I thought the resulting stench was familiar.

Holy Fucking Shit. Idiocracy has come to the GOP.

-G

where is the money going and why?

until we have real answers to those questions, all this talk of “transparency” is imo total bullshit.

on the subject of bs…. i’ve been listening to an npr podcast called “planet money.” not my favorite interviewers but they’ve had some informative programs. day before yesterday they had geithner on: Geithner’s Stress Test

i liked simon johson’s take on it: Listening To The Secretary

How long can you say, “we are being bold” when in fact you are not?

I just image-googled “Young Republicans” to see what they actually look like these days and found these lovelies (chapter in Riverside, CA, I think)

http://www.redcounty.com/river…..Day_21.JPG

firearms aside, they look vaguely human.. somewhat.. I don’t “think” they’d set anyone on fire.. maybe ;-P

How long can you say, “we are being bold” when in fact you are not?

LOL. How long indeed.

Last night on Rachel’s show she & a guest were lamenting the fact that, because of the DOJ’s decision to at last charge one of the guys held for 7 years without trial [they were NOT lamenting that], the challenge to the “Enemy Combatants” bullshit now won’t make it to the SC.

I say grab all these wingnuts who are urging “armed resistance/insurrection” and charge THEM as enemy combatants. Hold ‘em without charges or trial. Let them see what it’s like to have a president/administration that YOU regard as crazy doing these unAmerican things.

Then the Supreme Court can weigh in.

PS – can anyone explain why the underline feature here does not seem to work?

”If you underestimate the problem; if you do too little, too late; if you don’t move aggressively enough; if you are not open and honest in trying to assess the true cost of this; then you will face a deeper long (sic) lasting crisis.”

I like this line too because Geithner is with a total lack of self awareness describing himself.

either that or total disingenuousness. don’t know which i prefer.

i’ve been reading up on summers a bit and i’m starting to think he’s really not an ideologue. he seems just too ready to do the opposite of what one might expect – when it’s politically advantageous.

new post from swopa: If McCain and Petraeus Like Obama’s Iraq Withdrawal Plan, Should We Worry?

Holy Fucking Shit. Idiocracy has come to finally out of the closet at the GOP.

DeMint, a fierce opponent of government expansion, told the CPAC crowd that conservatives might have to “take to the streets to stop America’s slide into socialism.”

Did he actually mean “take up the streets”? With picks and shovels…after all, if anything is a symbol of “collectivism” and “socialistic thinking” it’s the public roads!

May I suggest that they begin tearing them up and demanding trolls tolls across the newly instituted private property.

“You may cross if you can answer this riddle!”

When do these folks cross the line between bad, lip flapping rhetoric and incitement??

This is what I just sent to my Senator’s the asshole’s office:

From CNN: “Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina, the only member of the senate to earn a perfect rating from the American Conservative Union, called President Obama “the world’s best salesman of socialism” on Friday in describing his prime time speech earlier this week.

DeMint, a fierce opponent of government expansion, told the CPAC crowd that conservatives might have to ‘take to the streets to stop America’s slide into socialism.’”

That’s great, Senator…now you’re calling for an armed revolt? Sedition? The kind of action that can a fella tossed into the Navy Brig in Charleston? I guess that would only happen to a member of the “Democrat” Party. You should be ashamed of yourself. It’s pretty clear, though, that you’re incapable of shame. You are a blot on the landscape of our beautiful state.

Closing Gitmo may be premature.

What do you expect from a Senator of South Carolina, the state that precipated the Civil War by firing on Fort Sumpter? These times the traitors won’t get amnesty. A rope and a blindfold.

Don’t be naive. The corporate media will hail them as new American patriots.

Maybe I’m showing my age here, but doesn’t Jim DeMint remind you of Gomer Pyle from the old Andy Griffith show? Just listen to him, “Hi! I’m Jim DeMint!” He sounds and kind of looks like Gomer Pyle. He really does. Doesn’t he?

Listening to the drivel coming from DeMint’s mouth, especially with his nutty comments today at CPAC, he sounded very similar to Gomer in that episode of Andy Griffith when Gomer tries to get revenge on Deputy Barney Fife. “Citizen’s Arrest! Citizens Arrest!”

Gomer Pyle=Jim DeMint. Separated at birth?

I wouldn’t underestimate the anger brewing out here with the 90% of the rest of us. The CPAC fantasy group can rage all they want from their comfortable perches of wing nut welfare or their mother’s basements, but the rest of us have had quite enough of the small group who 30 years ago would have been institutionalized for their rantings.

This CPAC raving reminds me of the ‘riot’ which occurred in Florida in 2000 near the people counting votes. It was all fake, but it did have the effect of pushing people around. Naturally the local police where nowhere in sight.

I suspect a street riot with 3 of these nuts would draw the full attention of the MSM…damn liberal media.

Really what I think is behind a lot of this is an attempt to push Obama to do something stupid in reaction. I think he’s doing very well and has public support, so he doesn’t have to react to them. He might say something to gain more public support (as he did with his not-the-SOTU speech), but it’s not necessary just now.

I suspect the activities of this administration have all the indications of success and it scares the Repubs. I wonder what percentage of the bad mortgages have been modified or refinanced or ended after foreclosure. Are we making progress with this root problem or is it still out of control?