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I thought Bobby Jindal gave possibly the worst response to a Democratic speaker in the history of democracy.
I’m pretty sure he’s going to be SNL’s next target.
I thought his delivery was weak.
Reading the speech, it was great. Delivery? Not so much.
This was not Bobby Jindal’s greatest oratorical moment.
There are indeed limits to the Slumdog Millionaire touch of gold. Not every tale of a plucky Indian lad can capture the hearts of Americans.
I don’t care how much of a star Jindal is, America doesn’t elect somewhat-off dorks as president.
I thought Jindal came off particularly bad. His delivery was flat and his jokes and anecdotes were awkward, his grin childish. He seemed more like a high school student giving a valedictory speech than a potential future leader of the party.
Jindal, you sucked!
Somewhere, Sarah Palin is smiling.
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EPUd from below:
Paul Krugman in today’s blog:
Bobby Jindal has made me a happy woman. He is topping off the grave of the Grand Old Party. All we have to do it pick out the headstone and appropriate inscription. But we have to remember that this is the party of the undead.
EPU’d IT IS A TRAP!
What did Dick Cheney think of it? He’s good at giving Obama and Bush advice. Certainly he can offer up something.
Oh God.
gotta make sure we keep a fresh american flag on it. that’s important. oh wait. republicans? veterans? never mind.
Brooks called Jindal’s speech an unmitigated disaster. We have seen how the GOP deals with disaster (think Katrina and 9/11 for starters). Hoo boy! This bodes well for our side.
I have made my NYT LTE “career” critiquing Bobo. But once in a while, he speaks truth. Which means, of course, that he’s an endangered specie(s).
Appropriate inscription — “No one could have predicted…”
BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!
[Moderator: quoting Will Smith, we trust, and not advocating violence]
Appropriate
inscriptionepitaph— “No one could have predicted…”Fixed it for ya.
How quickly they forget or is the idea the dork has to be completely off?
You betcha!
Meanwhile, next door in Mississippi, Haley Barbour is reaching for his rolodex of GOP corporate donors: “Hey, ol’ sport, Haley here. . . . Yep, I saw it. Ouch. . . . Now see, y’all know that this is what you get, pickin’ an upstart from Louisiana and all. He’s wet behind the ears, and it really showed . . . If’n I’d been the one doing this response, I’d have done it up right. . . . Why thank you. That’s mighty nice of you. Just make it out to Barbour 2012, my friend.”
Digg is open
I hope it makes him go away, but remember that Bill Clinton’s first speech that got a big national audience (at the 1988 DNC) bombed badly, and was made fun of for years as being extremely boring, including by Bill Clinton himself.
So unfortunately, a bad speech is unlikely to finish him off.
Mahvelous, simply Mahvelous
Yeah…Um, eight years of dorkdom as I recall?
It is worth remembering that Bill Clinton was booed off the stage at the Democratic National Convention in 1988, and he came back to win President in 1992. Four years is a long time in politics.
I didn’t watch him, but from not-too-political horse friends input, I gather it was something like a cross between Fred Rogers Kitty Call and Hal-meltingdown.
A wonderful day for the Frost Lady of Alaska, regardless of her tax, per diem, and SUV issues.
Yes, Sarah Palin is smiling. Mitt too.
Mitt’s dogs aren’t smiling.
Our frame of reference is much broader now. Comparing Bill Clinton’s performance in 1988 to Little Bobby’s is so grossly unfair. Clinton does better under pressure. He always made sure he was under someone’s thumb. He defined himself by those constraints. Just look at Clinton’s relationship with the repugs. Little Bobby has NO idea what he was getting himself into. He still has no idea how badly he is being used. Jindal is the new whipping boy for Mitch and Boner.
I come back from lunch and here y’all are still beating up on poor ol’ Bobby?
Excellent!
Right, but Clinton was hugely talented politically. Jindal doesn’t appear to be. He can get better, true, but…
JoeBuck – posted before I saw your comment.
Really, the news isn’t so much Bobby bombing so badly, but that all the apologists admitted he bombed. wow. Even Brit Hume, who did his level best to bury his admission in a paragraph of excuses why rebuttal speakers are “at a disadvantage”.
I watched Bobo directly after LMAO at bobby, and was astonished at how strongly worded his disgust was.
Clinton’s history was as a comeback kid. Jindal not so much.
Plus, Bubba “I feel your pain” Clinton was the great empathizer. Bobby, not so much. A rhodes scholarship doesn’t guarantee emotional intelligence.
Bob, like Frum, knows the GOP’s “small gubmint less taxes” mantra isn’t going to cut it anymore. It’s over. So he gets really pissy every time he sees some Gooper doing it. But I haven’t seen him get that animated at anything ever. It was something.
Really, how about getting off the whole “Republicans are dorks and fools, haha in their direction” line, and focusing on what Democrats need to do?
No one is going to care much that Republicans have no answers if the Democratic answer to our problems likewise falls down on the job, and does so at vastly greater expense.
What Democrats need to do is to turn inward and settle on good, reality-based policy that brings the country out of its current economic morass. The best evidence is that Obama’s too-small-by-half stimulus ain’t what the doctor ordered.
No one’s going to care what kind of dolt/dork Bobby Jindal was in Nov 2010 or Nov 2012 if the economy is still in the crapper.
So let’s keep our eyes on the ball, shall we?
I’m confused about this. Why were people talking him up during McCain’s veep search? Was this the doing of Jindal himself or party people? Was everyone just so dang impressed that he won in LA when the poor people were floated out of their precincts and polling booths with no identification? I mean, with all the advertising he’s been getting, where’s the political savvy? The victories? The accomplishments?
As an aside (and posted downstairs) I was so gratified to know that Jindal was subjected to the threat of recall when he reneged on a campaign promise to prevent measures that would double state legislature pay. One previous supporter gave Jindal a D in performance and A for self promotion.
Maybe I’ve answered my own question…..
Really, to hear a republican call out another using words like “it’s INSANE!” is really really great TV.
Jeb’s probably smiling too.
What? And miss a day’s worth of fun mocking Jindal? I ain’t that serious. Besides, I spent an hour or so watching Bernanke avoid Qs at the House HH testimony. What did you do today to keep your eye on the ball? *g*
I don’t think that anyone here is taking their eye off the ball. Evah. Doesn’t happen. But we are due our snarky schdenfreude after all of the hard work and true suffering these fuckheads have caused.
For starters, Jindal’s accomplishments seem somewhat greater than Palin’s (read his wiki).
Obviously, these Republics have lost their way. They need to reread the Book of St. Reagan in the Republic Bible. There they will find the Eleventh Commandment: Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.
Perhaps. I’ve been thinking of writing a satirical piece about “If Sarah Palin had been given the GOP Response Slot,” but am busy today. And, I’ve got better things to do….also…
PALEN/JINDAL 2012!!!!!
707!!!
MODS – this is the Famous YouTube that Will Smith was referring to when he uttered that catch phrase.
it refers to a sportscasters EPIC FAIL – and hence, Bobby “I’m the next big thing in the GOP” Jindal’s …. well, you get it.
somewhere in a cave, there is the Lost Gospel of Barry Goldwater waiting to be discovered.
yeah, a sports metaphor, dude! and highlighted on Monday by KO. Boom!
I always love the “you should be blogging about something else” posts.
SANTELLI/SANTA CLAUS 2012!!!!
So, what’s the big GOP-er fascination with Twitter? I mean it is akin to being excited about instant messaging?
Talk about behind the curve.
-G
I think you fail to see the real picture here.
Look, one of the worst things about the so-called progressive so-called movement is how much of its energy and focus is wasted on the pointless shirts-vs-skins aspect of politics. Nothing seems to be so satisfying to many allegedly in the cause than to trash talk the Republicans — certainly not bringing about good policy.
Who with the slightest amount of intelligence is in any way surprised that Jindal had absolutely nothing to say, and came across as a complete idiot? Why go on and on about it when it happens?
Really, if you don’t believe that the “progressive movement” squanders its energies on such stupidities, I suggest you go over to DailyKos and take a look at the commentary there, and see how many pixels go to die in service some truly stupid snark directed at the bugaboo on the other side of the political divide.
As far as I’m concerned, snark like that is a disease on the body politic of the progressive cause, and rube running posts like this only foster it.
It’s like spying. I think that’s why they like it. They can play “guess what I’m wearing” type games with the pages.
They were talking him up because he’s a brown skinned guy. The GOP-ers, who bitched about tokenism, have very little color in their bench….So holding Jindal up was their equivalent of ‘Some of my best friends are brown’.
Sad.
-G
My fave comment from last night was Attaturk, as Obama’s peeps enter:
Rahm meets people in the aisle:
“Hi, fuck you.”
“Oh, hi, fuck you.”
“Nice to see you, and fuck you.”
Jindal would have polled better if he’d stuck with that !
this asshat needs someone to remind him that louisiana is up there with alaska in sponging off federal funds. for every dollar they contribute, they take 1.78.
http://www.taxfoundation.org/r…..w/266.html
he’s one guy who embarrasses the heck of Indian-born folks like myself.
Petro!
I also wondered what Dick Shelby had to mutter as Obama looked him in the eye?
“Ah, Ah believe yer a citizen, ah do, ah do, ah do.”
-G
It’s also their way of showing that wimmen and minorities cannot lead the Repub Party to success.
Jindolt & Palin are the whippin’ boy and girl for the Repug Party Leaders.
GregB !
I can’t wait for Jon & Stephen tonight …
Well if you don’t like it, stop hanging around here in the ICU.
The Rs are good at that. Speaking for myself, a woman, there are a heckuva lot of Rs who embarrass the shit out of me, paramount being Sarah Palin. Then the African-Americans might point to Alan Keyes & Michael Steele. And the gays to the Log Cabin Rs.
In fact, that might be what Rs do best, or the only thing they do well.
I knew the liveblog would be hilarious, esp with Eli hosting, but I dutifully joined my family on the couch and away from the computer.
I had my own thought bubbles:
Boehner: Nancy is so mean to me…
Liarman: where’s my binkie??
Pelosi: Do I stand up here, let me check my libretto
Chez Dosido: well, no DONUTS will be wasted under that guy’s supervision
Pelosi: come on, Joe, up up up!
McCain: what? no surge? I have a thing or two to say about that, my friends.
Liarman: where’s my BINKIE?!
GOP section: they’re going to spend money on the troops?!! that’s not in the script!
Pelosi: Oh thank god I don’t have to sit with those criminals anymore. My eyes can rest!
Alaskans – and others - are all over Jindal’s dissing of volcano monitoring.
Some cliche about feeding comes to mind.
Me too, dude … like Ponnuru & D’Louza …
LOL … I was wondering where you were …
oh calm down. He’s being inclusive. He disses hurricane monitoring too.
I was sorely tempted to comment, when the bridge dweller spat in your direction …
If snark is a disease, I’m a very sick individual.
have you been test for the terrible scourge that is snarkolepsy?
This is like snark HQ here at chez BT
(((Petro)))
when Obama said Biden was going to lead the accountability of xyz program, and “no one messes with Joe” I felt it came up short of the grab the family jewels type of fear that Cheney inspired.
If only the people of Pompeii hadn’t relied on the government and had just picked themselves up by the bootstraps….
-G
Is that the itchy rash that I’ve developed on my arms this winter?
It’s like watching a televangelist and decrying sanctimony.
-G
Snarkolepsy – is that when you’re trying to fall asleep but you keep laughing about yet another stupid thing the Republicans have done?
FDL is a water cooler, not a think tank!
No it’s a think tank, not a water cooler!
Hey hey hey, relax kids, FDL is both a water cooler AND a think tank!
Please don’t get him started.
… on second thoughts … *g*
Jindal is SNL gold. Gold I tell you.
I don’t think he quite dissed hurricane monitoring. He just wants it done with small rowboats. That way we can monitor hurricanes in each neighborhood, where it would be easier to get the information back quickly to the community where it is needed.
Can’t it be a water tank? Problem solved.
snort! *g* Tanks a lot!
Jindal epitomizes the Republican mind-set: fear-based, selfish, small-minded, stuck in some fantasy past where life is pastoral and everything that happens is local. That old way of life is done in this country. It’s now about everyone pitching in with personal responsibility and hard work to make this a pleasant place for everyone to live, not just the top 1%; where we don’t go bankrupt because we get sick; where parents start taking responsibility for their kids instead of letting them rot on the couch playing video games. We have become fat, stupid, lazy, self-absorbed and ignorant. That’s a recipe for a failed society. Obama came along just in time.
Two, two, two mints in one.
a little rusty from lack of lack of practice… :~)
one of the the first signs of snarkalepsy and snarkitis is when you put your snark tags – /s – in bolds, like this - /s
Can it be a Dunk Tank ? We could call Issa, Jindal and other Repugs to … um … drop in for a quality discussion …
this is the donning of the rage of aquarium,
the rage of aquarium….
well Bobby sure made quite a splash last night.
“snarkolepsy” shows that you’re sharp as ever ! *g*
something like that. self-medication not advised.
Or drunk tank, in Bush’s case.
Jindal gotta reprieve. Rush came to his defense.
Brooks pins the bankrupt idea of “government is the problem” on Goldwater. Not Reagan. Apostasy to speak ill of Saint Ronnie. Brooks is not gonna go there . . .
this was code for “effeminant”, republicans can’t be “effeminant” so they have to use the word dorky instead
think though, he is getting FAR more play then web got isn’t he
does this fall into the catagory, any publicity is good publicity?
thanks for catching that. I heard it and went “huh?” that’s a goldwater thing? goldwater at least knew the art of compromise.
Yes, if you’re the West Nile Virus.
Well, thanks for proving to me that FireDogLake is just DailyKos writ small.
Geez. I’ve never listened to Rush before. Can’t say I ever will again.
Don’t let the door …
I can’t look. I hope it makes Rush look stupid to his listeners who may also think Bobby tanked last night. Just a small pinlight of truth might seep through the airwaves that Rush is a pinhead.
Don’t let the door …
Dude, write a diary about what you want to talk about and people will join you. Very bad form to shush others.
Chilly in here. Somebody pull that overton window shut, willya?
The Lake is many thing to many people, FranklyO. Apparently, it’s not your place. No need to try and trash it on your way out.
I’m anything but a fan of right wingnuts or Bobby Jindal, and I thought his speech following Obama was like watching Michael Jordan give a basketball demonstration followed by a high school player trying to do the same thing, BUT…. Remember that a then Arkansas governor named Bill Clinton gave a nominating speech for Michael Dukakis at the 1988 Democratic National Convention which was widely panned. Whatever happened to that Clinton fellow? Granted that Clinton’s speech wasn’t nearly as widely watched as Jindal’s, but one bad speech does not necessarily unmake a political career.
as a licensed snarkitect, I believe I am authorized to deputize you in times of rational emergency.
He castigates his side for criticizing Jindal on style. Sez that’s what they’ve been complaining about the Ds, and should not fall into the trap on the Rs. Jindal spoke the truth in simple ways, and isn’t that what the Rs want?
This could be an interesting test case of how much real influence Rush has on the Rs.
I can summarize Jindal’s affect and speech in two words: “Stepford Wives.”
LOL
As I said above, by the time Clinton gave that speech he was already known as the comeback kid. Jindal not so much.
Wait! I can do it in one: “animatronics.”
Either way, the R’s lose …
Tang Drunk?
Like koolaid headache?
wow
if I didn’t know better, from what rush has been doing it looks like he’s playing on our side, he is literally destroying the republican party
You got that. But I’ve developed a new curiosity about whether the Rs are really led by an entertainer.
ROFL
associating us to think progress is hardly trashing us, however he probably meant it that way so I get your point
The dynamite reference has become, to me, the thing you say when someone is on TV and gives the worst possible performance you have ever seen.
That’s what Smith meant, and that is what I meant.
Dave
Viet Vet
And the Rs don’t even need the help of a heavy hitter in their Rush to destroy the party.
It’s not just what you have to say, but the way you say it.
Outsider Patronizing doesn’t work well.
If you really want to make a particular point, it’s more affective to be reader-friendly.
The two words I’d use are: Ford Pinto
agreed, and I’m crossing my fingers. I think R will always have his wingnuts and why wouldn’t he like Jindal, but the moderate ones have hopefully weaned themselves off his show already.
Another interesting tidbit from Brooks rant is that the really diehard goopers in Congress are in “insular districts” (can you say gerrymandered?). It was a toss away comment, but it hasn’t been pointed out enough.
Dems should be talking to Rs in moderate districts and states. Sheesh, even Utah is coming around? Republican voters are hurting as much as Dems, but perhaps not in these incredibly “insular” districts who don’t give an FF.
well, he hardly spoke the truth but they certainly need him to talk as if they’re simletons
*waves to demi*
Awww Mom, he started it …
all the better to wash down the Space Food Sticks!
(time for ’60s kids to admit that getting those in your luch box was “special”)
The other point about that “truth” is if Jindal is so against corruption and wasteful spending, why didn’t he willingly follow through on his campaign promise not to allow legislature to DOUBLE their pay??? He had to be threatened with a recall. So he lied to goopers as well as dems on that one.
Hiya back.
We’re the boss of us and if people here want to snark about Bobby….hey, hey, hey…that’s just how it is. But, you know, I do see people sneak in here from time to time with a relevant question, but with such a pendantic and lecturing style that any point they may have get’s lost in translation.
(I was just trying to help.)
When Brooks said that about the house districts, I immediately thought about the senate, where the “district” is the whole state. Obama was able to peel off 3 Rs for that very reason, but there are many (the list of those who voted against Solis is a good starting point) in the senate who are movement conservatives who gained power over that body over the past 25 years. Those are the ones that need to be targeted over the next couple of elections, since some of those states have moved left in the last several years.
Rs have their own very special definition of truth.
As some of the old-timers may remember — came for the Plame but stayed for the snark.
It’s nice to see Jindal has one fan remaining after last night …
Yep, they’ve really augured in. Power worshippers.
LOL … yep, those Late Nites with TRex were priceless.
So the Repugs either need to be led by someone who isn’t very bright, or who talks to us as if we aren’t very bright.
Did Colbert stop doing his “Know a District” schtick? (Perhaps the pols caught on and stopped being willing dupes.) He should start it up again and target all those heavy R ones.
Well true that! But lying to your large donors doesn’t go over very well even in R circles.
Works for me.
Har. Good one. I’ve found that if I’m in a good mood, the snark is funny. If I’m in a bad mood, and I’ve learned the hard way, to go outside, scream and then grab whichever book I’m reading and hide there.
Speaking of which ECAHN, how are you enjoying Memoirs of a Geisha? Read it years ago and like it much.
I don’t know. Maybe they’ve caught on to him. But I saw the lady from Guam and recognized her last night only because I had seen her on his show! :]
As a citizen who also works in government, I found his remarks incredibly offensive.
I just know Colbert is going to do something with laser beams shooting out Jindal’s eyes. “Take me to your leader”.
I like it a lot. A nice study of the profession, but also Japan during the war years. And from a personal POV. I’m a nonfiction reader, and Memoirs of a Geisha has many of those characteristics.
Her 15 minutes of fame! I missed that one.
That’s an interesting aspect of the Rs blaming govt for everything that I hadn’t thought of before. Pisses off their workforce. Brilliant.
The poor lady was so confused about Stephen’s schtick. But she maintained OK. It was one of SC funnier segments doing this. And then afterwards, he says “gee she reminds me of someone but I can’t think of who…” and a picture of Amy Sedaris goes up on the screen. precious.
“I don’t think this is an appropriate topic for this blog™”
May I suggest James Carroll? Just finished Family Trade, and absolutely was transformed by Prince of Peace. Intriguing character studies, politics, philosophy…just all the best parts of fiction.
Did George Will really say that he didn’t know when men started hugging each other ?
I guess that answers the question of whether Will has ever been to Europe, Asia or Latin America …
Hey, check it out!
Jindal, Pawlenty, and Sanford jumped thru Legacy’s hoops yesterday.
Someone didn’t hug him enough! And he obviously missed The Kiss.
The Republican plan for volcano monitoring would be to toss in a couple of welfare mothers whenever a volcano acted up, thus saving the unnecessary costs and possibilty of the country slipping into scientific, secular socialism.
New post–>>
Carroll’s Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._Carroll
Actually, I would recommend him to all FDLers who like to read.
Agreed, with you and Petro. But sometimes I’m disturbed here by the quick trashing of people who come with a contrary viewpoint, however incautiously stated. And I’ve been here for quite awhile, lest you think I am a troll too. We need to be open to other points of view, or we become an echo chamber. I think the points about keeping our collective eye on the ball is well taken (but I do enjoy the Jindal snark)!
I’ve listened to his House of War, which was fabulous. Tried to read Constantine’s Sword, but found it unbearable. His style of inserting himself into the story, that worked so well in House of War, because his father was a high ranking Pentagon official, made me want to scratch his eyes out in Constantine’s Sword. I wanted to know about the subject, not about him.
Judging is judging.
I think we all know you’re not a troll. (nat) *g*
Loved the part where he attacked volcano monitoring. Science? We don’t need no stinking Science. We’re the GOP, who needs elitist scientific facts?