Comments on: Lieberman, Meet Lieberman

By: macaquerman

macaquerman — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:57:57 +0000

I think I must be a little confused. I think that going to Gaza and accepting a note from Hamas for the President is not something that would have happened during the Bush presidency.
I also think that Congressman, Senator, and Secretary of State are not individuals but officials of the government and the support that they’re showing for the people of Gaza is real and unmistakable.
I also seem to continue to confuse the Gaza offensive with something that happened in the last administration and very pointedly did not continue under this current president.

By: dewey

dewey — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:42:25 +0000

I think you are confusing the postions of individuals with the official position of the US however mistaken about the individuals postions; Kerry as you mention for example has a voting record of siding with Israel 100% of the time. Carrying a piece pf paer to Obama does not change this. Until there is a stated position by Obama, which there has not been, the status-quo is the policy. This is fact. Nothing Obama has said or done other than promising to take a more a balanced approach has demonstrated otehrwise. In fact, during the last Gaza offensive, when hundreds were killed many children, Obama stated “I can understand the need for Israelis to protect themselves”. Note this offensive was supposedly provoked by supposed Hamas lobbing bombs into Israel. Whether or not this actually happened is in question however assuming they did, less than 2 or 3 Israeli people have died in the past 5 years from this activity. This is not to say Israel should not have a right to take action, it had the option and capability to take a measured approach which would have included a surgical strike but they chose otherwise. They chose a tactic where hundred of innocents died and the did without condemnation from Obama. The current postions requires very little reading between the lines.

By: macaquerman

macaquerman — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 23:01:51 +0000

I’m unsure that the Bush policies are in effect or will be.
Perhaps you noticed that Sen. Kerry, as well as two Congressmen, went to Gaza. Kerry accepted a note from Hamas that was intended for Obama.
Perhaps you might have seen that the SoS is heading to Gaza to announce that the US is pledging $900M in aid.

By: dewey

dewey — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:49:51 +0000

That has will contnue to be the US postion until we see a different policy defined by the Obama Administration. Until this happens, the Bush policy is the status-quo.

The bottom line I think we all agree that ending this misery for many is a major step forward in healing our planet.

By: dewey

dewey — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:43:07 +0000

Alot of well intentioned people have been trying for years. I like Amenesty and applaud the position and as “fair” as it is, I do not feel it is realistic. Even if no one sold Israel another munition or figter jet, they have stock piles to last for year to come. As for the Palestinians, they are living in sub-human conditions and will do whatever is required to survive.

By: macaquerman

macaquerman — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:41:54 +0000

“…they will stop acting unilaterally with blind support for Israel…”
It was the last paragraph in your post.
I completely agree with your hope for a two-state solution and multinational enforcement.
The violence is numbing, dehumanizing and completely useless.

By: dewey

dewey — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:36:44 +0000

In no way do I blame Obama and Mitchell and am not sure how this was surmise from my post. I have great hope George Mitchell as an individual however we have yet to see a policy put out by the Obama Administration. The foundation of it must (a) include a multinational approach (b) a two state solution.

By: macaquerman

macaquerman — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:20:57 +0000

I can’t see how you can blame the mess on Obama and Mitchell.

By: Siun

Siun — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:17:37 +0000

Amnesty’s effectives lies in its impartiality and if you read the actual report, I think you’ll find it pretty fair.

By: bluebutterfly

bluebutterfly — Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:14:42 +0000

” He said some of the houses affected by the orders had been built before Israel captured east Jerusalem from Jordan during the 1967 Six-Day War.

The Gulf Cooperation Council, which groups the six Gulf Arab states, backed the call for US intervention to stop what it called these “racist acts that defy human rights and international law.” “

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/P.....32009.html