By now you know that Avigdor Lieberman, head of the Yisrael Beiteinu party, did in fact play king-maker in the Israeli election and, after much maneuvering, threw his support to Netanyahu which resulted in Bibi being asked to form the Israeli government. (Livni’s Kadima courted Lieberman as well and in doing so, lost the support of Labor and Meretz. )
So what’s Avigdor’s next move? Campaigning for Minister of Foreign Affairs. Step one in that campaign is what Ha’aretz calls a “global charm offensive.” This PR effort is aimed at convincing us that, in the words of Daniel Ayalon, Yisrael Beiteinu member and former ambassador to the US, “Lieberman is not a monster.”
And guess who is the first US politician to help out this new rebranding effort? None other than our very own Joe Lieberman!
The Jerusalem Post describes this effort as “Lieberman auditioning for Foreign Affairs portfolio”
Israel Beiteinu leader Avigdor Lieberman met with his American namesake, US Senator Joseph Lieberman, on Sunday in what sources close to him said was an audition for the role he wants in Prime Minister-designate Binyamin Netanyahu’s government: foreign minister…
The senator requested the meeting, because he wanted to better understand the Israel Beiteinu leader’s views. He advised his namesake to go to the US to explain his views.
[emphasis added]
Ha’aretz reports that:
The Yisrael Beiteinu chairman said it was important to act quickly against Iran’s nuclear program. "If we want a peace process we have to work first against Iran," he told the senator.
And Jerusalem Post writes that:
The Israel Beiteinu chairman explained his party’s platform, including his call for a loyalty oath, which he renamed "the responsible citizenship bill," and dispelled what he said were myths about the party being racist.
Senator Joe Lieberman, after the meeting, said:
"Though we’re not related by blood, we are privileged to hold positions in two great nations," the senator said after the meeting. "I wanted to meet Lieberman, because he will play an important role in the next government, so it’s important that we in the US get to know him well.”…
Perhaps Joe should check some media reports to get to know Lieberman. Take, for example, Avigdor’s biography at the BBC which gives a good overview of his positions:
Under the party slogan "No loyalty, no citizenship", Mr Lieberman also wants a law demanding Israeli-Arabs pledge allegiance to Israel as a Jewish state and committing them to some form of national service.
And his blunt invective and the blatant disregard for political correctness have further raised concern internationally and on the Israeli left.
For example, he has said that Israeli-Arab MPs who met Hamas should be executed like Nazi collaborators after the Nuremburg trials.
And according to the Jerusalem Post he said in January 2009 that Israel should "continue to fight Hamas just like the United States did with the Japanese in World War II" – widely interpreted as a reference to the dropping of nuclear bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima…
Mr Lieberman is a champion of the Israeli settlers and takes a tough line on unilateral withdrawals from Jewish settlements arguing that Israel gets nothing in return, particularly security guarantees.
He pulled out of [an earlier] government in January 2008, however, refusing to back its peace talks with the Palestinians on core issues under the US-backed Annapolis process.
Or, he could check Ha’aretz which writes that, “Lieberman unfit to be minister,” based on allegations of fraud – or consult what the Jerusalem Post called “American Jewish organizations on both the Right and Left:”
"His provocative image has ramifications that go beyond Jewish-Arab issues in Israel," said Americans for Peace Now spokesman Ori Nir. "We’re [against] the inclusion of such a red flag in the government, both because of the message he sends and the potential he has of igniting fires because of his public statements."
Morton Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America, told The Jerusalem Post last week that Lieberman’s "image is so tarnished, it wouldn’t be good for Israel" to have him in a prominent leadership position.
Instead, according to the Jerusalem Post:
After the meeting, the senator, who later met with Netanyahu, expressed optimism that the new administrations in Washington and Jerusalem would get along.
"Governments have come and gone in the US and Israel, but the relationship between the US and Israel has remained constantly strong because of the values and interests we share, and I’m sure that will remain true in the Obama administration," the senator said.
And while Joe’s advice to Avigdor “to go to the US to explain his views” must have pleased the Israeli politician, it may not be so simple. As Akiva Eldar reported in Ha’aretz last week:
Meanwhile the State Department is evaluating the implication of reports that MK Avigdor Lieberman, head of Yisrael Beiteinu, was a member of the extreme right group Kach. It appears on a State Department list of terrorist organizations.
If the Obama administration confirms the report that appeared last week in Haaretz, and which was not denied by Lieberman, the Yisrael Beiteinu leader may not be granted a visa to enter the U.S.
I wonder if Senator Lieberman has anything to say about that?
Update: Senator Lieberman’s love, it appears, is not unrequited:
The Israel Beiteinu leader praised the senator after the meeting and said that "Lieberman is the best name in the world."
"We had a fascinating conversation," Avigdor Lieberman said. "I enjoyed hearing his estimation of developments in the Middle East, and I am sure we will meet again in the future."
I am sure the Senator looks forward to it. . . . [--ed.]
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pea-brainspeas in a pod(horetz).Morning, Siun, I left you a question on your last post. if you have the time, I would appreciate a reply.
Are Israeli moderates still planning to avoid this coalition govt? I certainly hope so.
As for our very own Joe Lieberman: –(Jane Hamsher are you reading?)
““Lieberman is not a monster.””
It would be interesting to know what they conceive of as being a monster. The various snippets listed here and others that I have read previously pretty much paint a picture of a monster. If this isn’t a monster’s behavior, what would it take?
on the bright side, at least this election occurred *after* the departure of Dim Son….
Kach?
shit. i had not heard that and desperately hope it is not true.
Digg It
Maybe not an actual member, his views are in the neighborhood.
He was a member – Ha’aretz reported it before the election. Two additional members of his party’s list have also admitted membership.
Several groups are opposed to George Mitchell as envoy because they are afraid he might be to fair. Would like to hear Avigdor’s take.
There are no Israeli moderates. The so-called moderates are the ones behind the assault on the civilian population of Gaza in December-January to improve their chances (unsuccessfully) in the February elections. In Israel you start with the far right and then move further and further right almost without end.
Here’s more – Gideon Levy on Avigdor
What makes you use the phrase “Sen Lieberman’s love”? The comments from the Senator used un your post are more formal than friendly.
thanks siun… what i find so distressing is not so much his views (as bad as they are, there will always be racists), but how acceptable they appear to be. and not just with the large segment of the population who support him in elections.
Labor is going to opposition, it appears. I was referring to Kadima party. Are they pretty much still up in the air? My hope is that they would not attempt a coalition, go to opposition as well.
It’s still undecided but looks like Kadima will be opposition as well.
i agree with you re labor and kadima (not moderate). i’d even go so far as to say much of the old left peace camp is no longer moderate (see benny morris).
but to say there are none is to make invisible those few who are fighting, even sometimes at great personal cost, against tide of fascism in israel.
His party achieved 15 seats of the 120 in the Knesset.
The difference between Netanyahu and Lieberman (Avigdor) is a fig leaf. Lieberman just says what Netanyahu means.
I should point out that it is not just Lieberman who is undergoing a PR facelift but Netanyahu as well. As soon as Netanyahu was picked to form a government, the NYT rushed out with a piece claiming that he was really a pragmatist although there were very few examples in the article of this newfound pragmatism. As for his more common hardline positions, these were largely glossed over.
So basically we have in Israel an extremist government, even crazier than the group who attacked Gaza and they are being very deliberately repackaged and rebranded to make them palatable to the American public.
more importantly wrt to my comment above – 419,101 (11.64%) votes.
And this is what I am not saying. However the sane voices in Israel aren’t even on the fringe anymore. They are on the fringe of a fringe.
I agree about Kadima and Labor. They were behind the attacks on both Lebanon and Gaza. They are not moderate.
Stanley Greenberg from yesterday’s book salon made an unconvincing case that Barak was more moderate, i.e. he still backed the Gaza operation but he felt bad about it. And that Netanyahu wasn’t a fascist. I did not agree on either point.
you are too funny
and that photo makes me wanna hurl my breakfast
Either way, it’s ugly. Fear, hatred and simple-minded solutions to entrenched problems sell all too well.
re supporting evidence – i saw yesterday’s book salon and stan greenberg’s comments re netanyahu.
he is a radical money hungry maniac,i know peeps who KNOW him
owe you a drink and thanks for the clarification.
and what has happened to the Terrorist Vegetable?
Death and Life-in Death are still dicing for him.
Ring-ring”
“Shalom Joe, it’s Avi”
“Hey Avi. You are going to have to make it quick. I have to get up to the Hill to try convince congress that Iran is scarier than that Thai guys teeth from the Academy Awards last night.”
“Ok. I was just thinking folks might think its cute if we wear matching outfits for our press conference today. I will be wearing a suit that is as black my heart and red tie the same shade as the blood we spilled in the Gaza offensive. In fact I had it dyed in a bucket of Paletinian kids blood.”
“Yeah, can do. I will wear a red tie however its shade is that of thousands of dead american soldiers and hundreds and thousands of innocent Iraqi’s so we will be slightly off. Any suit I wear now turns black as it just ooozes from my pores so I am good there.”
“You going to the AIPAC Conference tonight, Joe?”
“Wouldn’t miss it for for a bunkerbuster on Tehran…….well”
“we laugh alike, we talk alike….”
Double your pleasure, double your fun
Two Liebermans in the house
Is worse than none.
He’s not a monster, and Gaza was just a bad dream. I don’t know why Holy Jose doesn’t give up his charade of being a U.S. Senator and just decamp to Israel, with wife in tow – or is that being unkind?
They do have the distintion of both being Israel citizens…and spies.
And on whose behalf do you think these guys are spying on Israel? Sounds pretty unlikely.
” Draft resolutions for the United Nations Durban II summit on racism brand Israel as an occupying state that carries out racist policies, Haaretz has learned.
The resolutions appear to confirm concerns that the second World Conference Against Racism will be used by Arab nations and others to criticize Israel. Despite those concerns, the United States said last week it would participate in planning the summit. “
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1065845.html
Lieberman and Lieberman won’t like this.
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” The US has long been the largest arms supplier to Israel; under a current 10-year agreement negotiated by the Bush administration the US will provide $30bn (£21bn) in military aid to Israel.
“As the major supplier of weapons to Israel, the USA has a particular obligation to stop any supply that contributes to gross violations of the laws of war and of human rights,” said Malcolm Smart, Amnesty’s Middle East and North Africa programme director. “To a large extent, Israel’s military offensive in Gaza was carried out with weapons, munitions and military equipment supplied by the USA and paid for with US taxpayers’ money.” “
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl…..el-amnesty
The Amnesty International report called for the suspension of all arms deliveries to the area, including deliveries to Israel and to Hamas.
It’s a great idea, and if anybody objects to it, then ’tis a pity.
” Coming soon: http://www.paltelegraph.com – The Palestine Telegraph/PT is a professionally driven online newspaper envisioned by a few thoughtful Palestinian youths in Gaza. They were inspired to do something to change their world and shared their dream with Photojournalist Sameh A. Habeeb, a life-long resident of Gaza and Founder and Editor in Chief of The Palestine Telegraph/The PT. “
http://www.freegaza.org/en/hom…..telegraphq
The Palestine Telegraph – “We Will Change Your world”
Video at site. The 4th farmer shot in two weeks.
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” (18th February, 2009) What caused the Israeli soldiers to shoot a deaf farmer today? Was he threatening? Was it because the group of farm labourers had successfully worked quickly to harvest their day’s wages? Was the sight of retreating, unarmed, clearly non-threatening civilians too tempting to resist? “
http://www.freegaza.org/
The Amnesty announcement is a joke. This is an asymmetrical gorilla war for the Palestinians and they are being decimated on the order of 1000:1. The Israelis have stock piles of munitions. The Palestinians are victims of ethnic cleasing and is why they will use anything including rocks and their own bodies as weapons to counter the F-16’s and state of the art missle technology used by the Israelis and supplied by the US. Plestinians are in survival mode and will not play by the rules until Israel and the US stop stacking the deck.
If Obama and Mitchell come to their senses, they will stop acting unilaterally with blind support for Israel, align with a multinational task force that comes up with a two state solution that has teeth.
We know it is rockets and stones vs tanks, bombs, and planes. They are asking for arms not to be sent to Israel. I have no illusions that they will be successful, but they are trying.
” He said some of the houses affected by the orders had been built before Israel captured east Jerusalem from Jordan during the 1967 Six-Day War.
The Gulf Cooperation Council, which groups the six Gulf Arab states, backed the call for US intervention to stop what it called these “racist acts that defy human rights and international law.” “
http://rawstory.com/news/afp/P…..32009.html
Amnesty’s effectives lies in its impartiality and if you read the actual report, I think you’ll find it pretty fair.
I can’t see how you can blame the mess on Obama and Mitchell.
In no way do I blame Obama and Mitchell and am not sure how this was surmise from my post. I have great hope George Mitchell as an individual however we have yet to see a policy put out by the Obama Administration. The foundation of it must (a) include a multinational approach (b) a two state solution.
“…they will stop acting unilaterally with blind support for Israel…”
It was the last paragraph in your post.
I completely agree with your hope for a two-state solution and multinational enforcement.
The violence is numbing, dehumanizing and completely useless.
Alot of well intentioned people have been trying for years. I like Amenesty and applaud the position and as “fair” as it is, I do not feel it is realistic. Even if no one sold Israel another munition or figter jet, they have stock piles to last for year to come. As for the Palestinians, they are living in sub-human conditions and will do whatever is required to survive.
That has will contnue to be the US postion until we see a different policy defined by the Obama Administration. Until this happens, the Bush policy is the status-quo.
The bottom line I think we all agree that ending this misery for many is a major step forward in healing our planet.
I’m unsure that the Bush policies are in effect or will be.
Perhaps you noticed that Sen. Kerry, as well as two Congressmen, went to Gaza. Kerry accepted a note from Hamas that was intended for Obama.
Perhaps you might have seen that the SoS is heading to Gaza to announce that the US is pledging $900M in aid.
I think you are confusing the postions of individuals with the official position of the US however mistaken about the individuals postions; Kerry as you mention for example has a voting record of siding with Israel 100% of the time. Carrying a piece pf paer to Obama does not change this. Until there is a stated position by Obama, which there has not been, the status-quo is the policy. This is fact. Nothing Obama has said or done other than promising to take a more a balanced approach has demonstrated otehrwise. In fact, during the last Gaza offensive, when hundreds were killed many children, Obama stated “I can understand the need for Israelis to protect themselves”. Note this offensive was supposedly provoked by supposed Hamas lobbing bombs into Israel. Whether or not this actually happened is in question however assuming they did, less than 2 or 3 Israeli people have died in the past 5 years from this activity. This is not to say Israel should not have a right to take action, it had the option and capability to take a measured approach which would have included a surgical strike but they chose otherwise. They chose a tactic where hundred of innocents died and the did without condemnation from Obama. The current postions requires very little reading between the lines.
I think I must be a little confused. I think that going to Gaza and accepting a note from Hamas for the President is not something that would have happened during the Bush presidency.
I also think that Congressman, Senator, and Secretary of State are not individuals but officials of the government and the support that they’re showing for the people of Gaza is real and unmistakable.
I also seem to continue to confuse the Gaza offensive with something that happened in the last administration and very pointedly did not continue under this current president.