Conservatives may be revolting, but they are never rebellious and they will only be cool when Hell freezes over.

pups, thers abandoned us for some forking rock concert with his wife so ya’ll will have to put up with me

he said it was a special post he was leaving for our enjoyment – forker didn’t tell me it was a forking hitler post.

Could have been worse. I was afraid he was going to post about K-Lo’s inbox.

OMG!

lard protect us from that

please

I’ll watch the video and tell you how bad it is, OK Suze?

*gigglesnorts* That was amusing using the Kamen Rider X clip. I’m amazed at how much it’s improved since teh Showa Era riders. I’m at the moment watching the current KR who’s called Decade. The fights have gotten miles better but for 1974? That was right on target. But??..Starfish Hitler??

*falls over laughing* The japanese can get away with this, as the tend to toss everything into a mishmash because they can. The Rethugs? No excuse for being that stupid. So the mocking laughter and giggles you hear from somewher? Is likely me.

thanks gnome – i’m afraid to press play – knowing thers’ warped sense of humor…

Digg right here!

gigglesnorts? dayam, i was not expecting gigglesnorts from anything with hitler in the title

I dunno, back in the day George Will must have been almost like the Fonz, only wearing a raccoon coat and driving a Stutz Bearcat. Safe to say he won’t be doing THAT again, unless his rug is taped down really securely. 23 skidoo and whatnot.

Just bit of bad Japanese weird action film. A bit hard on the logic circuits (much like wingnuts), but otherwise harmless.

dugg and thanks newton for opening it – i wonder if a post with hitler in the title will bring in more traffic – and if so, what kinda traffic/trolls that will be

i guess i had better put on the nomex/kevlar modsuit and strap into my safety harness on the mod chair

Alias is right. It is pretty darn funny. I was wondering if there was some play on words that got starfish and hitler together. Some warped mind made a costume that may haunt me forever.

You should expect that from me. This is so cheesy and so bad that you can’t help but laugh at it. Much like the whole idea of ‘hip hop’ GOP that was noised about this week. I laugh at the modern shows just as much when they totally warp western figures and concepts. Except i LIKE these shows, so the laughter is more ‘OMG the really did do that!’ for this, and for the GOP? they get the mockery.

Hah! Back in the day, George Will was the farking hall monitor in hell.

I…I have a terrible confession to make. I can’t live with myself any longer. It’s now or never. I can not continue like this any more.

When I was in Hollywood, a script came across my desk. It was inspirational, brilliant, its characters glowing with a white-hot emotional intensity that put Dostoyevski to shame. And yet, funny! Did I say funny? It was a knee-slapping yuckfest! But for all of that, profound. Deep. Anthemic…it would have inspired a nation of flabby shoppers to sweaty, chest-rippling homoerotic glory like in 300, but without all the dude laying around on dude action.

We knew if we rolled the cameras, we would make millions. Hundreds of millions. But we were liberals. And we knew that if the world ever beheld the incontrovertable truths contained in this simple story, our secular dreams of universal abortion, legalized pedophelia and handing over the country to terrorists would be forever lost.

In a solemn ceremony where we destroy these works so that the world may never bask in their profound conservative wisdom, we committed the script to the flames. Then we danced around and howled at the moon a bit. But this ceremony was special. This one I would never forget.

The author’s name…was Mary Grabar.

Now you’ll have to excuse me as I try to put back together the shattered pieces of my life and find a way to go on.

Conservatives can’t be hip or cool or with it. To be any of these you have to be forward looking. Conservatives can only look backward.

It’s part of a long running tv series, actually. The Kamen Rider franchise has been around for about 25 years, i think. Not quite as long as the Super Sentai (Power Rangers in teh US version) which is at 33 years and counting. ^^ Tokusatsu (special effects) is always this cheesy and over the top, that’s half the fun of it.

They change the casts of both shows after hte new year and add a whole new set of characters and a ‘theme’ or world to play in. *grin*

That was an “interesting” video. Can’t say I have seen much like it but it probably makes more sense than the crap written by Grabar.

Steele should coin a new term for his movement, like “Gip GOP,” which evokes both zombie Reagan and the party that worships him.

ok, you and dr dick have persuaded me to press play. if i don’t return in 2:06, send out a search party – assuming of course, you can peel lurk away from the dark chocolate goodies.

I wonder who would win…Starfish Hitler vs. Starburst Mooselini.

Only Republican thought leader Rich Lowry knows fer shure….
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..31735.html

D’oh!
Stop, Jane – that makes too much sense!

hey jane

*snicker giggle snort*

I’d like to see an episode of “Cops” where George Will gets pulled over wearing his hall-monitor sash and no pants.

Say it isn’t so! /s

That is heavy. A Grateful Nation honors your sacrifice.

Jane, I think this is something you’re just going to have to learn to live with. I understand where you’re coming from, though; my grad school “research assistantship” actually consisted of screening out incoming job applications for conservatives so the faculty wouldn’t actually have to read them (besides, of course, the standard by-name mockery that is a regular feature of all faculty and grad student meetings). I weep when I think that I might have blackballed the next Gerald Ford, Dan Quayle, or George W. Bush.

I am actually kind of a fan of some bits of Japanese pop culture (some anime and Miike Takashi’s films for instance), but this genre always leaves me totally cold.

You don’t have long to wait. Among Snufalufagus’ guests on the roundtable tomorrow’s This Week:

George Will
Nouriel Roubini
Paul Krugman

Epic Sunday morning TV

That’s what I was thinking, the show was like the Power Rangers without the chicks in the tight, shiny costumes.

I looked over the wiki. Most Kamen Rider shows have a theme to their ‘monster of the week’. This looks like the 2nd tier of them which was a mix of all the conqueror types like Napoleon and Ghenghis Khan. In true japanese enthusiasm there’s no such thing as ‘non politically correct’ for the show. The starfish is just plain random, as it looks like it was sea critter type thing for that group.

LOL!

Don’t do anything rash, Jane. There’s a cached copy of the script somewhere on the web. Let me search for a link.

Whoa! Looks like a game of “Which of these things doesn’t belong”!

OMG! That is “George Will: The Eviscerating.” And double-teamed by Dr. Doom and the Shrill One no less. May have to actually turn on the TV in the morning.

Might be worth watching just to hear Krugman correct Will AGAIN.

sigh – next some reporter is gonna show up here and say the media does have a liberal bias

and that judith i was fucking right miller is the high priestess

Yep, and just one peep from Will about the New Deal and the bloodletting begins.
Alas, I think he must have learned not to fuck with experts last time. But a boy can hope.

Asking all about that horrible liberal Hollywood bias destroying American culture so they can spread universal gay marrying abortions.

I feel your pain. Do you know how hard it was to get a town full of greedy, rapacious amoral mammon-worshiping Hollywood types who care nothing about making a buck on selling sex and violence to your kids to toe the line when it came to conservative masterpieces? To hold formation and forgo the inevitable riches that would have rained down on us all had we delivered these works of genius to a public who yearned for them?

Huh? DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD THAT WAS?!! Do you have ANY IDEA?

To Eric Cantor and a few wimpy House Republicans I say — baby’s game.

They already filmed it… “An American Carol.” Should have won best picture but those liberal Hollywood academy members are using copies of the DVD to shore up the short leg on their sofa.

I have a feeling that Georgie Porgie may not even have to open his mouth to get shived. The Shrill One has been getting a bit testy about all the conservative BS lately and Dr. Doom does not suffer fools. Period.

Yeah. it’s give and take. The Tokusatsu fans are few and far between over here. But it’s only beena round for 15 years stateside. Where those type of shows have been running for 20+ years and still going strong. So they’ve got at least a 2 or 3 generation fanbase over in japan. Some like it, some don’t. My friend convinced me to watch the japanese versions a few years ago of the more recent shows and there you go.

I’m an anime fangirl supreme and i’m fascinated by their mythology besides. But these are just good plain fun. I just never expected to see a clip here at the Lake! XD

dc has to be a cake walk in comparison jane

LOL!
Sorry Suze!
I guess you will have to put up with me for a minute, right before I fall down.

Conservatives and Cool are like oil and water.
Their idea of suave is still the rotting poster of Father Knows Best that is mouldering under their Grandparents basement steps.
Yeah Baby, Ward Cleaver RULES!

Let’s win one for the hipper?

What’s been so funny to see these last weeks is how pathetically clueless Repubs are (as usual) as they try to prop up anyone in their ranks with extra melanin (Steele, Jindahl, etc) as an obvious response to Obama being elected. As if melanin level is the main reason why people voted for Obama.

The Michael Aluminume “hip hop” deal is especially ridiculous since Obama specifically distanced himself from the stereotypes by promoting “pulling up your pants,” and “turn off the TV and video games and read books and do your homework,” yet here’s Michael TinEar embarrassingly embracing the phrases and such. He actually used the phrase “bling bling.”

Who does Steele think he’s gonna win over with this strategy? It’s such a failed strategy from the outset, and I’m thrilled he’s goin there. Keep it up Repubs!

setting look to stun

You could be right about Krugman. His latest “Obama take-apart” piece was angry and funny in a dark way.

*sigh* It is indeed a heavy burden you bear, but I am certain that you can find the inner reserves to persevere in the face of this crushing guilt.

They ran the hip hop idea past several focus groups. Somehow, Steele interpreted their convulsive laughter as a positive reaction.

You might like this site. It’s interactive. (BTW, Steven Colbert announced that it’s his favorite website.)

I still haz two steps.

Oh you know, the usual. Fornicating with satyrs, shooting a few speedballs and scratching the number “666″ into my Blahniks usually does the trick.

you have the right to….

I think what convinced him was when every progressive in the groups shouted, “Yeah baby, do it! Do it for real!”

hahahahaha thanks ecahn

Enjoy!

Why does the idea of a GOP focus group make me think of “A Clockwork Orange?”

It’s either that or the Three Stooges.

Soylent Green is people, too. Also.

Good evening firepups. How’s everyone tonight?

Who the fuck is this clown at the LA Times?!?!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.co…..h-cer.html

This simmering dispute, occurring online and in e-mails coursing daily across the Internet, seems unlikely to evaporate any time soon.

– Andrew Malcolm

Dude runs an entire article with the sole source being Alan Keyes, and makes several statements like the one above as if this is some new story. I see his bio says he was Laura Bush’s press secretary, so that’s probably all we need to know, but it’s worth exposing this operative as much as we can.

This “reporter” doesn’t mention the Obama birth announcement in the Honolulu paper back in 1961. This simple bit of history “evaporates” the story immediately.

Actually I think that IS George Will down in the front with his racoon coat, isnt’t it?

And check out the date…November 16th, 1929! He was singin’ the odes of Conservatism then, and still is today!

jeez louise, bonkers, ya think he got into pickles’ stash?

I experienced a brief moment of cognitive dissonance caused by the association of one of my favorite movies with the GOP.

Safe to say droogs Georgie and Dim could have been Republicans.

First the WaPoo, now the La-La Times. Methinks journamalism is going down the toilet. At this rate even the parakeet won’t let you line its cage with it.

Hey, Betsy! How life in the Lone Star?

Full disclosure, George Will was spawned in my hometown. Don’t read too much into it, we’ve birthed some talented folks too.

tex, how ya feeling? the treatment go well monday?

Starfish Hitler speaks Japanese! It was an Axis of evil after all.

My bird has gotten quite good at targeting pictures of Republicans, although it owes much to strategic newspaper placement.

Unlike George Will, who is part of the Axes of Weevil.

Anything good in the bakery tonight, Bets?

I watched Michael Wolff on his biography of Rupert Murdoch on book-tv tonight. Wolff fearlessly predicted the end of newspapers. BTW, the interview will repeat. It’s well worth watching. I would not read a bio of Murdoch, but there’s all you need to know in the interview, and Wolff is no friend of Murdoch despite the 50 hours he spent with him.

As of last night, I am finally feeling better. Procedure went well, LOTS of relief in the spinal pain, but also a lot of swelling in the muscles. Had a great day today though.

Thanks for asking.

Yes, but I fear he might refuse to use the WaPoo. Even birds have standards, you know.

I saved this from a Tbogg (I think) post the other day:
http://www.americangreetings.c…..NUMBER%7C1

Disturbing but fun (story of my life).

Or the Axis of Weave-ill. Oh well, that’s what he gets for ordering his rug from a place called Hair-piece Simplex.

Yea, that “reporter” is a “vlassic” example of a Repub operative.

glad to hear you got relief tex :)

I think Will wants to talk about global warming…hoping that Krugman knows nothing about Glacial Climatology or the Milankovich Cycles.

Because if Krugman does know anything Will’s going to be slapped down yet again. The theories of global cooling (actually it was projected a few thousand years on) will cited in his column last weekend actually intentionally excluded Anthropogenic factors. Which means that current Anthropogenic effects have actually overridden the predicted trend expected from the orbital aberration and tilt of the earth. This is one more sign that global warming is a real phenomenon and man-made.

hahahaha thanks bonkers

Of course! Who else is hungry?

CAKE

(This cake is to celebrate the beach house’s 50,000th hit on Friday.)

/blogwhore

Anthropogenic factors

huh?

And one more sign (as if we needed any more) that Will is a lying tool who will shamelessly spread any wrongwing talking point to serve his dark masters.

It is nice to see Jane Hamsher in a rare mood.
The lady could tear the arse out of a NeoCon at twenty paces with a rusty post hole digger.

Human caused events.

Good evening everyone….. How is your weekend so far?

Yummy!

I also like the flip-flop cake on the next page.

Congrats on 50,000!

Not willing to bet the farm on this, but when Will saw that lineup, he had to have an “oh shit” moment, knowing that he would have to actually, you know, keep his trap shut.
OTOH, being bereft of the truth hasn’t stopped him in the past.

Single-digit wind chills. Much like Arizona, I’m sure.

i guess if Pat Boone can wear leather and rap there must be hope!

The reason why this nit wit is wrong can be summed up by FA Hayek in his essay “Why I am not a conservative.”

http://www.geocities.com/ecoco…../fah1.html

As has often been acknowledged by conservative writers, one of the fundamental traits of the conservative attitude is a fear of change, a timid distrust of the new as such, while the liberal position is based on courage and confidence, on a preparedness to let change run its course even if we cannot predict where it will lead. …..But the conservatives are inclined to use the powers of government to prevent change or to limit its rate to whatever appeals to the more timid mind. In looking forward, they lack the faith in the spontaneous forces of adjustment which makes the liberal accept changes without apprehension, even though he does not know how the necessary adaptations will be brought about.

SO HOW IN THE HELL CAN A CONSERVATIVE BE A REBEL IF THEIR NATURE IS TO STAND PAT? ITS AN OXYMORON.

thanks dr (pause) dick

If it had, his career would have lasted about 20 seconds.

Bright and sunny in the 40s here. Almost shirt sleeve weather in Montana.

He probably called Tweety to get lessons on how to ask a question and then talk over the response three words into it.

hey katy – any more forkers?

Evening pups….. and sieg heil Starfish.

Sunny at 10 p.m.? Freaky-deaky, dude.

That or watched O’Reilly tapes for clues on how to do it.

Well, not now. But up until about 6 pm tonight.

And he has to be agitated with Snuf – bringing in the guys with fearless facts…
What a world!

I’m so glad you’re feeling better!

Sunny at 10pm in February? Montana must surely be a magical place!

we got into the 60’s today – before it started raining

At least one of those flip flop cakes was for Mc$hame’s birthday bash.

Today was 80 and tomorrow will be 83….

Really mad at my cardiologist ….. he put me on blood pressure meds when I do NOT have high blood pressure with the idea of protecting my heart for a side effect that >4% of patients get……. Yesterday I was sicker than a dog with the BP med side effects, so dizzy that even laying down the room spun…… gradually getting it out of my system…… this had to happen during during my drug holiday from the chemo…

katymine!
feel better

Why does thinking of “O’Reilly” and “tape” remind me of Buffalo Bill in Silence of the Lambs?

hahahahaha dayam, i wish i had thought of that

fork (((katy)))

How annoying (the BP meds). Hope it works out of your system soon.

no new forkers but fun and games with new adventures……

good adventures or bad adventures? you been hanging around with goppers?

trust me, the only adventures they have are bad ones

(((katymine)))

Don’t take the bp meds. Somewhere in my distant past I remember reading that something like half of all prescriptions written were never filled. Docs way overprescribe.

The “Hollywood is liberal” thing always gets me. Ever tried actually being a liberal in Hollywood? Not as easy as it looks, and you don’t get the fun of self-pitying wingnut martyrdom for you troubles, either.

Oh katymine, not fair. (as if any of it is)

Dang Katy!
Put those pills in the back of your medecine cabinet with a warning label on them!

Here I thought Hollywood was simply monomaniacally mercenary. Silly me.

Those wingnut straw men just won’t stay down.

and a lot of people can’t afford the meds they DO need.

No, no more and going to refuse if the cardio wants to start another drug….. I usually have low blood pressure …….

Mary Grabar has learned her evil tactics from [sound of Theatrical Organ]

“The Piranha Brothers [Dinsdale & Doug]”

Professor Grabar [rhymes with “Babar”] probably was listening to the “enemy”- a broadcast of that socialistic PBS station broadcast of what she THOUGHT was a newscast from Labour Party (i.e. Communist) Controlled ENGLAND. Here is what she heard…

“Vercotti Well, I had been running a successful escort agency – high class, no really, high class girls – we didn’t have any of that. That was right out. And I decided…
[(phone rings on desk) Excuse me (he answers it) Hello……no, not now……shtoom…shtoom….right……yes, we’ll have the watch ready for you at midnight…….the watch…..the Chinese watch….yes, right-oh, bye-bye mother (he replaces receiver)]
… Anyway I decided then to open a high-class night club for the gentry at Biggleswade with International cuisine, cooking, top-line acts, and not a cheap clip joint for picking up tarts, that was right out, I deny that completely, and one night Dinsdale walked in with a couple of big lads, one of whom was carrying a tactical nuclear missile. They said I’d bought one of their fruit machines and would I pay for it.

Interviewer: How much did they want?
Vercotti: Three quarters of a million pounds. Then they went out.
Interviewer: Why didn’t you call the police?
Vercotti: Well I had noticed that the lad with the thermo-nuclear device was the Chief Constable for the area. Anyway a week later they came back, said that the cheque had bounced and that I had to see Doug.
InterviewerL: Doug?
Vercotti: Doug (takes a drink) I was terrified of him. Everyone was terrified of Doug. I’ve seen grown men pull their own heads off rather than see Doug. Even Dinsdale was frightened of Doug.
Interviewer: What did he do?
Vercotti: He used SARCASM. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and satire.
[Cut to map.]
Presenter: (voice over) By a combination of violence and sarcasm, the Piranha brothers by February 1966 controlled London and the South East. In February, though, Dinsdale made a big mistake.”

thankfully I never filled them, just took the samples the cardio gave me….

Anthropogenic = Human originated

More every day, I’m certain. Heat, eat, or take you meds. My mom used to say growing old is not for the faint of heart.

Yep. Both things are common.

It was so long ago that I heard that, I’ll bet the percentages are much higher now, for the reason you mention, affordability. Back then (20 or 30 years ago), the main reason was docs overpresribing. Now it’s both and affordability.

good night firepups. glad i got a chance to pop in.

katymine, feel better soonest!

Never been to HollyWood, but I can see where you are coming from, it seems that money and power are two of the ingredients for what ails this country and being a Liberal is an automatic demerit.
I am so tickled that you have kicked the system where it hurts the most and as proud as a new Grandpa for you.
You have had some rough times, I know, I was here the whole time, and Good On Ya Jane.

my boyfriend is a freelancer for ESPN and everyone assumes there is some agenda because the parent company is the Mouse….. He has been working for them for years, yes they make mistakes like hiring limballs but they also fire their mistakes….. they just want to put on good sports and keep making their ad revenue.

g’nite TexBetsy

I’m out too, a splendid evening to all.

(((katymine)))

Charles de Gaulle said old age is a shipwreck.

Night Betsy. I am taking off as well. Take care all.

No shit. I live in a supposedly “Liberal” area and run a business. Go to business networking events and feel like and outcast most the time since they know I work on Liberal political campaigns as well. Meanwhile, my competition, who work for the Repub campaigns and who are mostly far inferior by every business barometer, get most of the big money contracts from the other people at these events. And exactly as you said, they’re constantly railing in “self-pitying martyrdom” about this “liberal nazi” town. Such a strange pathology, but they all stick together so they do fine, financially at least.

thanks c’ape

Poetic, in addition to being an apt analogy.

pain free sleep wishes tex

g’nite ratfood

nite doctor
nite ratfood

De Gaulle also said something about the impossibility of governing a country that produces thousands of cheeses.

I worked in news for a TV station that was taken over by Ruturd Murdoch while I was there. Went from one of the top stations in the nation (actually practiced journalism on TV…I know sounds weird now), to ambulance chasing and lead stories about the latest Fox movie. Literally overnight.

Started getting the daily fax (at that time) from corporate headquarters in LA as to what stories we should cover each day. Forced out many of the most respected and awarded news people in the operation and replaced them with “yes men and women.”

It’s that tightly controlled at many of these Conglomerate-owned operations (thanks Bill Clinton!). Doesn’t matter what the people “in the trenches” think or see. You do what the boss says or you find a different job. That’s what so funny about the “Liberal media” claims. It’s really the exact opposite. Typical Repub projection technique, as we know all too well…

and not wines?

g’nite dr (pause) dick

When talking to somebody named ratfood, it’s best to mention the cheeses

so far as we know that isn’t happening as the Mouse has too much trouble dealing with their operations…… ESPN absorbed ABC sports so anyone with fond memories of ABC Wide World of Sports….. its long gone….. It is funny to paychecks with the logo of the mouse on them…….

Exactly my thought as I was typing the comment. Well, who knows how de Gaulle’s mind worked?

i used to watch wwos every week – and then it went to crap. mouse crap

Remember when they used to show all the games from the Olympics? Remember when you see the different trials and countries compete and get the real feel of the Olympics.

Then NBC got the contract……

i always winced when the ski jumper guy crashed in the opening. that show explained the sports, showed the locale, and was good even for sports novices like me. i learned a lot from wwos.

Yes, I’ve freelanced for years for both ESPN and ABC, and there’s really no comparison between news operations and sports operations in this regard. There’s not really much messaging to control in sports, where it’s more clearly just entertainment.

It’s funny for me to work in a news context one day, and then a sports gig the next. In sports they provide meals at the venue (usually unlimited and very good), while in news you’ll get scolded for taking a breath mint if offered by the people you’re covering, since it could be considered bribery for more favorable coverage. Some people are really anal about this, which I tend to agree with. Kinda forget sometimes when going back and forth…

So wouldn’t really expect to see much message control going on the sports context.
(I think we might’ve established way back that your boyfriend and I have probably worked on the crews together…can’t remember for sure…)

Speaking of which, remember when you used to get the real news?
I grew up watching the Army and Marines throwing lead every night, when I was eight nine, ten twelve.

Dang, Cronkite? Where the hell are these guys now?

Fuck the MSM, corporate whores and American Idol.

Jim McKay was one of the best ever. Probably THE best. Bob Costas will be considered in the same category no doubt.

nobody compares to mckay in my book

he was the best

Elmore has been a tech manager for Monday night football for two seasons and for several seasons for NBA. He does the talking heads for football and the games for NBA. ESPN is cutting their budget and for the Super Bowl gig there was no food. You can contact me via my facebook page…… He has worked TV for 25 years… you probably have worked with him at some point……

Cronkite & Huge Downs both live here and have colleges at ASU, one in journalism and the other in communications.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nOnRbTlWs0

McKay and Munich

oh stars, that brought back so many memories

thank you bonkers

God Rest His Soul, Jim McKay was the real deal. He did a lot of reporting and had his own news letter, just for car racing.
The guy was remarkable.
Years and years he did that and the general public had no clue.

Wow, I’ve phased out a lot of that kind of the work the last couple of years, so haven’t experienced the “no food” thing yet at a sports event. I’ve done Super Bowls in the past, and that was the biggest food and swag event there was, so must be getting tight!

Don’t have a facebook account, but when you say the name it sounds really familiar, especially since NBA was one of my main gigs…when it was NBA on NBC and some Turner. Really close friend of mine does audio in the truck for Mon Night FB, so they must know each other.

Anyone take Ricola cough drops? what flavor can you tolerate?
I got honey lemon with echinacea and it tastes like crap….. but it took care of my cough….

they all taste like crap to me katy

Its his screen name here in FDL….. we try to protect his identity ……. just use my screen name at yahoo.com

LOL!
Your Mother approves.

Lemon

cartoon upstairs

Another broadcasting titan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

And includes Oregon footage!

Katy, have you read Carl Hiaasen’s Disney book Team Rodent? Might be serious, but doubtful. He’s insane funny.

Ha. Yes, I understand!

Funny thing is, is that there is an Elmore that’s in that line of work the more I thought about it. hehe…I’ll try to remember to email ya…

i love zand’s elderberry zinc lozenges.