When I first heard that someone on CNBC had gone all Howard Beale, my money was on Bob Pisani. But, when I saw that it was Rick Santelli, there were no surprises. If you’re not a CNBC fan, Charles Lemos over at MyDD describes the situation on the Chicago trading floor aptly:
I spent a decade on Wall Street working for Alex. Brown & Sons, Deutsche Banc Securities and Goldman Sachs. I found Wall Street a largely liberal environment with one major exception, the trading floor. In my experience I found traders, who are largely white ethnics -Irish, Italian, Greek, Polish or Slovak among others- and graduates of the Seton Halls, the Boston Colleges, the Notre Dames, the Penn States were the most rabid conservative and foul mouthed people on the planet. Nor could any of them ever get my name right. "My name is Charles, not Chuckie" was something I would repeat whenever I had the misfortune to have to interact with them. Some of these folks made William Buckley appear moderate.
Whatever my own views on traders and their culture, it appears that Rick Santelli is their patron saint. In his five minute rant, Mr. Santelli went on to compare Barack Obama’s America to Castro’s Cuba and to suggest a kind of modern day "Boston Tea Party" – a call for a Chicago Tea Party as an anti-spending revolt. Mr. Santelli’s "I’m mad as hell and I am not going to take it" tirade on CNBC brought cheers and applause on the floor of the Chicago Board of Trade not to mention accolades from across the conservative blogs.
I like to watch CNBC because it’s like someone took Spengler’s Decline of the West and made it into a cartoon. You can see the scenery crumbling around them. High priests of the Bush boom like Larry Kudlow still try to pretend that there’s a grand, self-regulating free market in expression which simply can’t purify itself because of meddling bureaucracies, but most CNBCers will all but admit at this point that it’s no more than bug-eyed gambling.
The underlying belief they all seem to share, and acknowledge in various ways, is that the cause of the current meltdown is that Maxine Waters made it easier for people of color to get home loans. When Rep. Michael Capauno confronted Bank CEOs about how his constituents were angry during a House financial services committee hearing, CNBC’s David Faber and Maria Bartiromo followed up on Morning Joe:
SCARBOROUGH: You know what I think might be also difficult for his constituents to figure out?
BRZEZINSKI: What’s that?
SCARBOROUGH: He and Barney Frank and Maxine Waters said –
BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.
SCARBOROUGH: — when they were warned in 2002 —
BRZEZINSKI: Uh-huh.
SCARBOROUGH: — and 2003 –
BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.
SCARBOROUGH: — about what they were doing with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was going to cause a subprime crisis that would cripple our economy and possibly create an international crisis.
BRZEZINSKI: I –
SCARBOROUGH: I wonder what his constituents would learn if they Googled his name and Fannie Mae in 2002 hearings. That would be fascinating. Because I know Maxine Waters, who was also screaming yesterday, said that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, when they were trying to reform it, quote, "If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it."
BRZEZINSKI: Yes.
SCARBOROUGH: My, my, my.
BRZEZINSKI: Well, I just think it’s interesting how it’s politically correct and maybe even cool now to be shocked and horrified at all the arrogance that we’re seeing, but where was that a few years ago?
SCAROBOROUGH: And the bank crisis that these —
BRZEZINSKI: Lawmakers.
SCARBOROUGH: — people caused themselves.
BRZEZINSKI: Lawmakers.
SCARBOROUGH: Along with greedy bankers.
[...]
SCARBOROUGH: Well. Everybody went to the money party, and, again, these very people who were screaming now were the very ones that were screaming when there were those trying to stop this crisis five years ago.
BRZEZINSKI: Yes. All right. Now to more on how our money’s being spent at home.
[...]
SCARBOROUGH: Could you connect the dots between Fannie and Freddie and the rest of the industry? Because we always hear how Fannie and Freddie started it. But somehow, that infected the rest of the industry. And by the end, I guess Fannie and Freddie were carrying what — 50, 60 percent of the mortgages in America?
FABER: Well, Fannie — I mean, it’s interesting, because there’s a story that many believe that Fannie and Freddie were responsible for this crisis. But in our story, it actually is Fannie and Freddie’s absence that led to it to a certain extent.
[...]
FABER: Nobody ever sat there and said, "We don’t want people to own homes."
SCARBOROUGH: Well, exactly.
FABER: But we get to a certain point in this country — 60, 65 percent, and everything after that? These people — I mean, at the end of the day, we have many people saying this. And [unintelligible], they shouldn’t own homes. Then you’re dealing with people ultimately –
SCARBOROUGH: And now Barney Frank is saying –
BRZEZINSKI: Who cannot pay it.
SCARBOROUGH: — some people should just rent.
FABER: Right.
BRZEZINSKI: Yeah. That’s right.
SCARBOROUGH: Thanks for telling us now.
MARIA BARTIROMO (anchor of CNBC’s Closing Bell): But, you know, the tape is there of Barney Frank just saying, "Look, expand home ownership, the American dream." You know, and they really didn’t understand how it was being done. They weren’t, you know, delineating subprime versus, you know, prime. So, I mean, they were on the record saying we need to expand it. Congress is totally at fault.
Rick Santelli is just the explosive Id of CNBC, saying what everyone else thinks. Somehow it’s not the pervasive institutional rot, the criminal malfeasance at the highest levels, or the Chairman of the Federal Reserve telling Americans over and over again that housing prices would never go down. They have convinced themselves that the real problem is once again people at the absolute bottom of the economic scale. If they’d only used appropriate "judgment" and lived within their means, we’d all be fine.
Santelli is now being promoted by CNBC as a truth teller, a voice of the (no shit) "silent majority." "Would you join Santelli’s ‘Chicago Tea Party?’" they want to know. With 170,000 respondents, 93% say yes!
I guess it was only a matter of time before a hero emerged.



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I’ve seen this guy rant on the floor before, self promotion is all its about. These guys are getting attention for the first time in years and they all want to Kramer redux.
He and Barney Frank and Maxine Waters said –
BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.
SCARBOROUGH: — when they were warned in 2002 –
BRZEZINSKI: Uh-huh.
SCARBOROUGH: — and 2003 –
um….refresh me here….. were Frank and Waters in the majority in Congress in 2002-2003?
IS CNBC becoming the new Fox? Typical Con, just yell and scream and offer no solutions.
tea party? moron. that was so called because tea was dumped becasue of a tax on tea, no? hmmmm. I see a mileage tax is being considered. maybe Santelli and his silent majority can drive their cars into Lake Michigan.
Too bad Mika doesn’t have nearly the smarts as her father. Another legacy hack that plays Charlie McCarthy to Dead Intern Joe’s Edgar Bergen.
Yesterday also had discredited plagiarist hack Mike Barnacle cheering on Larry Kramer as Kramer called for the “crushing” of unions.
The plutocrats are revolting.
-G
The floor is populated with jaded con artists. They are mostly slackers with a serious gambling addictions and a severe allergy to earning their income. His Greek chorus could be taken right out of any white collar prison or GOP caucus.
small small men(*) who need to feel big and think scapegoating those with less will do the trick.
….
* note: my apologies to the guys, obviously can affect women as well.
Another great post, Jane.
“I like to watch CNBC because it’s like someone took Spengler’s Decline of the West and made it into a cartoon.”
Too funny! I just about fell out of my chair.
So I’m certain that the population of “170,000 respondents, 93%…” would be a very scientific poll.
If Santelli’s “Chicago Tea Party” were to happen, a simultaneous counter-demonstration reality check would also be indicated. Just a wild guess, but I’m not so sure CNBC (read: GE) is looking for that sort of publicity. Good. All the more reason to provide it. Make that 170,000 look like a very tiny statistical error…
“This is Rick Santelli reporting from the floor of the Siberia Mercantile exchange…”
True. But I’m fervently hoping that some creative fellow over in Chi doesn’t come up with some local variation. We really don’t need it.
Ultimately, all economics, like all politics, is local.
The easy populist thing to do is stand on a soap box in your own neighborhood and get the majority of your neighbors to agree that they’re not all going to pitch in to save the seven homeowners at risk of having their homes auctioned on the court house steps. That action requires a commitment to spend now to save later. Not a populist concept when the herd mentality calls for a simple solution (to a highly complex problem).
As a guy who sold completely out of the real estate market in 2003 and has been renting since, you can imagine I’m not pleased about bailing out the idiots who thought real estate only goes in one direction. I’m totally fucking pissed, but not necessarily at the all of the homeowners who made the stupid bets.
While some of them were just speculators buying homes as trading instruments and deserve to lose all their money, those who bought homes to live in for the most part drank the Kool-Aid being fed them via the firehose of government and all mainstream and financial media (ESPECIALLY CNBC). ALL messages these people were receiving in the 2005/2006 timeframe, from the FED, the President, the media, etc. compelled them to jump into the home ownership pool without concern for a reversal. The message was totally advertiser supported. Fannie was running ads on CNBS targeting underclass blacks for home ownership – touting it as the American Dream.
THIS IS CALLED BRAINWASHING for profit. It was done intentionally. Greenspan led the parade.
There are NO SOLUTIONS. It wouldn’t matter where or how we try to fix it now. It’s simply over.
When Mr. Santelli’s cheerleaders see their own neighbors homes being sold at 40 cents on the dollar, thereby destroying the value of their own homes, they’ll come to realize that Santelli’s populist rant was just that, a populist rant.
Morning pups. Grim news from the Street this morning, and Krugman isn’t exactly the well of optimism he usually is. Thinks the Great Depression isn’t the model, but the greater one that started when Ulysses S Grant was President.
As to the trading floor honkies, they are only slightly above the gold-necklaced mafiosi I occasionally come across in Montreal’s more fashionable eateries. You can hardly tell them apart.
Mika has proven herself to be quite articulate, eh? One would think some of the old man’s smarts might have rubbed off.
BRZEZINSKI: What’s that?
BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.
BRZEZINSKI: Uh-huh.
BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.
BRZEZINSKI: I –
BRZEZINSKI: Yes.
I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m certainly impressed…
Scarborough: Shut up. Get me coffee and iron my shirt, Mika.
BrezBzrzBzerMika: My pleasure, Mr. Scarborough!!!From Scarborough County (or Looneyville) to Morning Load
at least Howard Beale had a point Santelli is an clueless idiot and NBC is happy to promote his factless drivel
Brutal and on-target.
what do you think? was the panic of 1873 characterized by a credit boom/bust also? please excuse the ignorance, trying desperately to get up to speed (layperson-wise) and finding myself falling further behind.
p.s. love this paragraph from krugman’s blog:
What does Krugman know? He’s only the latest Nobel prize laureate in economics. I get all my economic wisdom from Rick Santelli.
Tea Party, Schmea Party.
Here’s the link to Krugman:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02……html?_r=1
Once enough women are unemployed, their families dispossessed of their homes and reliant on others for food and shelter, these folks can start railing about Welfare Mothers again
they’ve been trying really hard to find one, mccain was their first shot but he’s too old, then sarah but she’s too idiotic
then there was the plumber but he’s too transparent
this guy is for real, he is an idiologue with a brain, you might not agree with the man but he has a charisma about him
he will be the next star, might run for office I bet
What’s his face sitting in for Mathews on Hardball yesterday had that Mr. Mouth of the Hour on and was agreeing with him all over the place…on bended knee.
Thanks to the Media this false narrative is really spreading like wildfire. Blame the Victim mentality. Where’s mine, etc.
Very few, including me are much familar with the details of the Obama plan with regard to the mortgage bailout.
Because the media has made a concerted effort to spread this Blame The Victim narrative the public backlash is occurring as planned. It is interesting that the public is outraged over this situation but not the $700 billion Wall Street bailout.
The media, Santelli, Scarborough, local news and most of them have been effective at keeping the heat off the Wall Streeters and applying it heavily to the commoners.
People who listen to the tv news believe themselves to be accurately informed. There is schadenfreude. Republicans pitting common people against each other as they take the focus off their criminal acts. It is done so easily.
In watching the clip of Santelli’s tirade one thing that struck me was how the allegedly hardworking traders, meant to be a backdrop, were all suddenly involved as a chanting cheering chorus. It really was a sociological study in mob formation.
I too have noticed that Mika is to Joe what Ed McMahon was to Johhny Carson. Any morning I expert her to respond to one of Morning Joe’s comments with “You are correct, sir! Eeeyooo!”
MEEK MIKKA makes me wanna hurl,she would love to give KILLERJOE some fine fellatio,ican seeit inher eyes she idolizes him
and
like Larry Kudlow still try to pretend that there’s a grand, self-regulating free market in expression which simply can’t purify itself because of meddling bureaucracies, but most CNBCers will all but admit at this point that it’s no more than bug-eyed gambling……inhis pink silk French ties and TurnbullAssur 500 buck shirts….quickget me the pink pempto
Krugman’s replay of the Fannie-Freddie thing, in Depression Economics, is that after 02 & 03 they were under much more scrutiny and therefore were minor contributors to the eventual crisis. I don’t remember hearing that at the hearings the Rs insisted on having to scapegoat them They might have made the point in a more complicated way, and I might have missed it.
sosorry spelled it wrong
http://images.google.com/imgre…..n%26sa%3DN
I watch CNBC every day, briefly in the morning and briefly at lunch. It’s a terrific soap opera of how an entrenched belief system collapses in slow motion, like one of those dummy crash-test videos…
except w/real people on board.
Belief is powerful, especially when many rich others share the same ideology. The ideology is not only that “unregulated greed is good,” but that this system is named “The Market” and it has an actual consciousness or persona. A further belief is that this persona is rational. Wonderful, entertaining anthropomorphizing… like when a Wingnut Thumper is explaining God’s Will to his villagers.
roubini: The Worst Economic and Financial Crisis Since the Great Depression Reveals the Weaknesses of the Laissez Faire Anglo-Saxon Model of Capitalism
wow. roubini is now sounding like stiglitz (who for years has sounded something like the dfh in the anti-corp. globalization crowd of activists).
here’s hoping the sphere of legitimate controversy is expanding.
ALL CASINOS attract the rubes ,gypsies,and carnys
that is great
Gotta love Santelli’s backdrop. A fraternity cheering section of Wall St Banksters telling the government not to rescue average Americans. I guess if my base salary was $500,000 a year, with additional bonuses more than tripling that amount, and then those bonuses came from bailout money, I would cheer for Santelli. It’s great to have the “have everythings” telling the “have nots” that they should suffer for their own moral good. Hypocrisy thy name is Wall Street (or the Chicago Exchange).
Rather then lock a collar or “moral hazard” around the neck of the little guy, where are our regulators, where was the SEC, why were MBS and CDO’s rated AAA by the rating companies when they weren’t, why are accounting firms allowing inaccurate and misleading P&L’s and Balance Sheets to be submitted as audited and accurate to shareholders, why are banks not being forced to have accurate financial statements! Where is the perc walk for these guardians of capitalism?
Well, I’m mad as hell, too. Only I’m mad that they allow someone on national TV to talk like he knows about something he obviously knows nothing about! We’re long past helping our neighbors keep their homes. We’re now into maintaining value in all the other homes. We’re now into trying to keep people who didn’t buy, didn’t sell, perhaps just took out a simple second, which was supportable through the equity they thought they had in the home when they took the loan out, but no longer exists in this market. So now he’s under water on his small home equity loan that he used to remodel to up the value of the house.
These people don’t seem to understand that it’s cheaper to keep the people in the home than to foreclose and incur a whole slew of other negatives on the bank’s books. This is also an attempt to stem the slide of values to the entire market because these REOs (bank owned properties)are the competition for all the homes in the marketplace. So it’s the uninformed leading the truly ignorant!
Over the past several months I have really grown to dislike
Mika Colmes.
This morning, the pretty pretty lady from either CNBC or MSNBC who does the financial inserts on the Today Show was just about spitting. I wish I could supply footage of this primer in How Not To Report News, but I can’t figure out how to get that out of the Today Show videos. Suffice it to say, she was visibly angry at 7 a.m. when leading into Santelli’s bit and said something truly misleading about the crisis.
In other news, I’ve decided to bolt from the room with fingers in my ears when I see her face on my TV.
i think the traders make inexcess of 10,000,000.00 per year iirc
“Mute” is my friend.
Yes, but my way is more aerobic.
you have an amazing ability to describe our collective delusions. i remember your “The Church of the Erroneous Assumption” from a few weeks ago:
Drama is your friend.
Of course “The Market” short for “The Free Market” is not (never was) a freely operating system of trade in any case. It is a farce. That it is respected as some grand societal ideal – all that is good and right – self-correcting, self-balancing system is laughable.
There are taxes, tariffs, fees, commissions, finder’s fees, lop-sided trade agreements, liars, thieves, liasons, drug dealers, agents, black market operators, grey market operators, murderers, blackmailers, adulterers, spies, computer geniuses, hackers, sheisters, snake oil salesmen, con men, suckers, ponzi schemes, circus clowns and more all operating concurrently under a regulatory system with rules that are selectively enforced.
Compare and contrast Martha Stewart with Bernie Madoff.
Great post, thanks Jane.
Rick also worked at Mike Miliken’s, Drexel, Burnham, Lambert.
Santelli is getting attention now for slamming homeowners, but iirc, he was nearly as tough on TARP 1 and 2. IMHO, Santelli is a MUCH more formidable opponent than Kudlow.
Liberals and progressives are still labeled as tax and spend Democrats. I think Santelli’s most recent rant is an invitation for us to attack Pentagon spending and corporate welfare for Big Pharma and others.
IIRC, Santelli’s point is that historically when you redo a mortgage, a very significant percentage still default. Liberals and progressives have to argue that the multiplier of helping homeowners with tax dollars is infinitely better than tax dollars spent on military spending.
Another issue I think liberals/progressives might be wise to consider is that apartment living tends to be more ecologically sensitive. My guess is that there are a lot of disaffected greens who would like to see a higher rate of foreclosure.
The GOP will hang this on liberals in the elections of 2010, if we’re bailing out homeowners who eventually default anyway.
I also think people like Santelli are much more likely be strange bedfellows when it comes to issues such as FISA.
Santelli might respond to an email from you about Iraq and Afghanistan. My guess is that he’s against both, but it would sure be nice if he would come out and say it.
Well, my boss is a foul-mouthed rabid conservative who has a different take on how all this happened. He blames Al Gore. See, if Al gore weren’t an environmental communist who hates capitalism and wants to see it destroyed, he wouldn’t have latched on that huckster James Hansen’s global warming scam, or helped make the green movement respectable, and by now we’d be up to our eyeballs in cheap energy from all those nuclear power plants the DFHs kept from being built and we wouldn’t have to care about the price of oil. But as it is, when gas prices spiked last year, all those ordinary folks out there, whose ability to just get by is something my boss deeply cares about (when he’s not obsessing over tax cuts for the wealthy), simply couldn’t cut back on their driving, I mean driving’s a necessity, after all. So what else could they do? They defaulted on their mortgages.
See? It’s all ’cause of Al Gore and the Environmentalists. If it weren’t for them, absolutely everything would be just fine.
Of course, the number of things you have to be ignorant of to be capable of believing this scenario is rather breathtaking, but, hey, my boss ain’t a Republican for nothing.
Being raised Roman Catholic, I thought this was very on target. It also goes back to what you were writing a few weeks ago, Jane, about how critical a role some flawed theology around the Protestant Work Ethic plays in all this. Of course individual responsibly is important, but so is social responsibility.
I had someone actually blame carter yesterday
I am not kidding, they blamed carter
That would be a “Bingo!”
Not an effing peep out of these assholes over the 700 billion, or the 160 billion (and counting) handed over to AIG.
These greedy, misguided, and amoral bastards are all about themselves, and I should know; I’ve worked in financial services for 24 years.
And, having a room full of traders (people that would sell their grandmother if it would save them a nickel on an order) agreeing with him is like asking a room full of fat people if they like doughnuts.
“People who listen to the tv news believe themselves to be accurately informed. There is schadenfreude. Republicans pitting common people against each other as they take the focus off their criminal acts. It is done so easily.”
No doubt about it.
“He who controls the present, controls the past. He who controls the past, controls the future.”
Yeah, I been there.
The original Community Re-Investment Act was a Carter era policy, passed sometime circa 1977. Because lawmakers back then had the stupid liberal sense that caring about the plight of the poor and disenfranchised might somehow aid society, stop the spread of rampant urban blight, and reduce crime and poverty…those decisions somehow trickle down to cause our current woes today. Yep, I’ve heard that load of crap; and, the irony is that the self same shit-fur-brains making that argument gloss right over that subtle allusion to “trickle-down” as they follow their misguided path of causality from 1977 to the present.
In assessing blame for the subprime mortgage meltdown, we need to look at who lost, who gained, and who abetted the process.
A subprime loan to someone who can afford it is a pig. The folks who sold those pigs (originated those mortgages) got wealthy on large commissions. So did the lying sacks of shit who put the many coats of lipstick on those pigs:
– the rating agencies who rated the credit worthiness of the borrowers
– the rating agencies who rated those lipsticked pigs as AAA
– the market forecasters who predicted that home prices would appreciate forever
– the derivatizers who deliberately obscured the risks by creating the most complex bundles of securitized assets (mortgates) possible
– the banks who further obscured the risks by buying those bogus assets and then sold equity and bonds based on that bogus value.
– the people who sold Credit Derivatives Swaps on those bogus loans pretending that they mitigated risk but, in fact, were just another layer of lipstick
All of the above pig sellers and decorators made excellent money in fees and commissions. And, of course, those who sold their real estate during the boom made out pretty well too, but assuming that they made an honest sale, I can’t really fault them so much.
And the borrowers who get foreclosed on lose their down payments, their subsequent payments, and their relocation costs moving in and moving out.
And the folks who bought those pigs or who bought stocks or bonds in the pig farms that we call investment banks got really taken to the cleaners. So who were they? A lot of them were foreigners who used to believe in America. A lot of them were U.S. institutional investors, e.g., pension funds. A lot of them were U.S. citizens investing their 401K funds. These were the biggest losers in dollar amounts.
So, let’s blame Maxine Waters and the people she represents.
Yeah…I can see that.
Carter was a peanut farmer, right? And peanut products have been tainted with salmonella lately, right? And the people who have consumed those peanut products have either gotten very sick or actually died. In both cases, they’ve had to miss work, thus causing them to miss their mortgage payments, causing defaults and eventually reducing productivity in the overall economy. A viscious downward spiral.
Yeah, I can see that.
What are these people, on crack?
I heard an interesting argument. It was that the United States has become a colony of the multinational corporations. Colonialism was defined as the removal of natural resources to a foreign country who manufactured goods, then resold them to us colonist. I tend to agree, the manufacturing base of the U.S. has been subjugated to the cheap laborists of the quarterly profits adherents. Stock market results have become more important than long term survival. This short term thinking has bled over to the financial and commodities markets.
Another result of this thinking is the hatred of the labor unions. Why else would the firing of your most loyal customers make sense?
Al Gore and Jimmy Carter. Yeah…Now the reasons for this whole world-wide financial meltdown thing are starting to make sense to me.
Where is Rick Santelli when we really need him?
Santelli is a badass.
Interesting take:
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=6916695
CNBC is owned by GE. GE is slowly going broke. When they finally begin to prepare for bankruptcy, the GE accountants will discover what a money loser CNBC is. Speaking of losers. At this point, GE shuts down the network, following the wonderful Austrian school of economics as applied to businesses that fail to be profitable.
Then, Santelli loses his job. Then, he is unable to pay his mortgage.
See where this leads? It’s the sad karmic inevitably of capitalism’s busted engine.
I was actually googling “Seidman” to find some comments I’ve heard lately from L. William Seidman–he being big enough to take a fair portion of the blame for this mess himself, after creating the concept of ’securitization’ of mortgages in order to deal with the original Savings and Loan mess–when I ran into this article by Ellen Seidman. This was last April and it is interesting to see then that the Larry Kudlows of the world were already firmly entrenched with a hidden agenda against the Community Re-investment Act. It should come as no surprise that those assholes should attempt to practice shock-doctrine economics revision now and attempt to use a financial meltdown (primarily of their own creation) as a means to advance their hidden agenda.
http://www.newamerica.net/blog…..-mess-3210
Was Santelli also fond of Bernie Madoff and his investment funds?
Because TPM is saying the investigators are not finding evidence of purchases for those funds. It’s looking like Madoff’s operation was never anything but a Ponzi scheme.
How can one possibly listen to what he has to say? He was on the TODAY show this morning when his whole approach was to scream; anything the other guest said 2 words, he was screaming again…sounds insane and incomprehensible, let alone rude (I know, that’s minor)
Santelli got a lot of mileage out of asking the crowd if they’d like to help pay their neighbor’s mortgage. But he didn’t ask them if they’d like a lot of foreclosed home on the market in their neighborhood.
the sound bite is “buying a house they couldn’t afford”.
Well, remember the days when the banks checked your underwear to see what you had before they handed over the money? It’s their responsibility to check who they loan to.
Plus, I’ve never known a crack addict to “self regulate”.
Yeah, my boss blames Carter for Islamic fundamentalism: If Carter had just crushed the Iranian revolution like he should’ve, all this Islamic crap would have been stopped before it became a problem. (Like a lot of these guys, I don’t think he understands the whole Iranian Shia vs. al Qaeda Sunni distinction wherein each reagards the other as basically a satanic apostasy.) Also, his underlying belief is that ruthless authoritarianism not only works, but can be maintained indefinitely, so that all the US has to do is be as ruthless as needed for as long as possible until this religious fanatic rabble learns not to fuck with us. That’s one of the reasons he thinks Obama is a traitor for wanting to change any of Bush’s War On Terror policies. He thinks we need to crush these people like the Israelis have done in Gaza or they’ll overrun the Earth and destroy us.
I must admit, it’s fascinating having a daily direct connection to the lunatic fringe.
Selise,
We are seeing the revenge of the old-fashioned macroeconomists like me. Those of us trained by James Tobin and Bob Solow and Franco Modligliani, to name just the older Nobel Laureates knew that the unregulated ‘efficient markets’ stuff was just a lot of self-serving crap served by and two people who need easy answers to difficult questions.
A year ago I attended a seminar by one of my ex- undergraduate students, who had the misfortune of doing his Ph.D. in economics at Minnesota, which is the heart of the evil empire (he’s now chairman of one of the most distinguished econ depts in the US). He virtually twisted himself into a knot to explain by ‘rational markets’ aspects of the labour market and business cycles that anybody 35 years ago could more directly and correctly explain using the old fashioned simple models we grew up with.
One of the nefarious by-products of the mathematization and ‘publish or perishing’ of academic economics is that you don’t get any credit for repeating old truth. A new lie gets you tenure faster than corroborating old findings. If physics were like economics, we’d have 50 different gravitational constants, not to mention theories explaining them!
Who speaks for the angry white females?
Just asking.
I’m pretty sure it’s not Mika…
so far it only looks like intellectual revenge, because i don’t see it in policy yet. still hoping for the day when summers and geithner are either out on their ass or attempting to make amends.
scary story about your ex-student…
Must have slipped his mind…such as it is.
Get out your crack pipe. You’re gonna need it…
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/…..7#29297987
What a dipshit this guy is.
Absolutely – so the question is, who dealt the crack?
Obama VooDoo Mortgage Legislation boils down to giving more money to bankers.
As if there isn’t enough Moral Hazard already.
Give the banksters $3 bucks, and $2 goes vanish immediately.
And leaving the poor mortgage holders to live on VooDoo expectations.
Phil Gramm.
In case you missed it, I made a market prediction at noon, that came true at 2:00
http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/3778
This episode raises two points: The first is that after Giuliani in NY and now this jerk, Italian-Americans are getting a bad name. The Italian anti-defamation society, if there is one, needs to talk with these people.
The second is more to the point. Notice where Santelli was during this rant. On the floor of a stock exchange. Notice who has been getting much more than their share of any of the bailouts. The financial players. Does it not seem somewhat weird and distasteful to the point of being totally disgusting that these guys should be upset about a helping hand to people?
That 3rd to last paragraph was the best one you’ve every written, me thinks.
Agree. If not the best, it’s right up there.