After a report in the Wall Street Journal appeared indicating that Obama “met with 44 fiscally conservative ‘Blue Dog’ Democrats this week and gave a nod to legislation that would set up commissions to deal with long-term deficit strains,” noting that “the commissions would then present plans to Congress for an up-or-down vote,” it appears things moved rather swiftly.
House and Senate leadership sent word back to the White House, something subtle along the lines of “tha F*!K, are you CRAZY?”
The “fiscal responsibility” summit will still happen on February 23, but plans to empower a commission to make recommendations that are not subject to amendment by Congress have been scrapped. This will no doubt come as a blow to Wall Street robber baron Pete Peterson, who has pledged a billion dollars to loot “save” Social Security and Medicare.
The head of Peterson’s foundation is former Comptroller General David Walker. He recently responded to William Greider’s Social Security article in the Nation, saying:
We have sadly concluded that the “regular order” in Congress is broken and that achieving progress on multiple fronts within a short timeframe is not possible on a piecemeal basis.
These Blue Dog dreams of circumventing Congressional procedure were evidently crushed when “Reid and Pelosi sent back word that Congress doesn’t get bypassed just because Peter Orszag says it does,” said a source familiar with the communications. But Peterson can’t be too disappointed — after Obama and Biden speak at the Monday conference, it will be Peterson himself presenting to the group, and then Laura Tyson of the Obama economic advisory team. Then the guests, which include members of Congress and others, will split up into six groups. But for now, the plan for a specially empowered “panel” coming out of the summit has been scrapped.
Tyson has been a proponent of the “Diamond-Orszag” plan, which calls for the retirement age to be raised and for Social Security benefits to be cut for those 55 and under as a way to be “fiscally responsible.” So anyone waiting to hear the voice of a progressive like Jamie Galbraith, say, who thinks that Social Security should be increased, or even someone who doesn’t assume that Social Security is in the midst of a “crisis” and needs to be “fixed” – don’t hold your breath.
Social Security is one of the only things standing between a significant portion of the retired female population and poverty, so it takes some real nerve to argue that their benefits should be cut. It’ll be really interesting to see egomaniac billionaire Pete Peterson, who owes his fortune to favorable taxation rates on hedge funds and private equity, lecture everyone about why old women should be eating cat food so the nation can be “fiscally responsible.”



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now serving All-Po’, the canned Blue Dog food.
I’d like anybody to tell me why ALL these zillionaire banksta racketeer fucks aren’t eating gravel.
Shock it too me, baby.
Of course, this is a crisis.
Bush’s record deficits and credit card wars were not.
Obama ain’t Dick Nixon, and Social Security ain’t the Great Wall of China.
There’s no “fix” necessary except to tax the rich more progressively and increase benefits for boomers whose pensions were snatched away in favor of 401(k)s, which are now nearly worthless thanks to Peterson’s pirate crew.
Just pay back the trust fund the money America owes it, President Obama.
Give’m a bonz and send them to the corner.
Wasn’t he the guy everyone here fell in love with during the primaries? And now he wants to gut Social Security? I guess that means most people at the lake want to gut Social Security.
Where’s Raven and Norske?
I am so sick and tired of these old rich greedy
motherfuckerswhite guys tryin’ to screw everybody to make a few more billion.Wouldn’t that be cannibalism?
now serving All-Po’, the canned Blue Dog food
brilliance
Ra……ven………
“he” the fuck who?
Why in the hell would Obama tackle the safety net just when we are going though the worst economic crises since the Great Depression? It sunk GWB’s second term and it will sink Obama’s first. WTF?
The Sandman Plan
Tax all earned income above the current limit at 1%, for Social Security.
Current limit for 2009 is $106,800.
Why the f*** is Obama hanging out and encouraging raiders like this?
This is idiotic, politically stupid, fiscally irresponsible, and possibly insane, considering the economy is in a tailspin.
I love how these fuckers crawl out from under their slimy rocks every time there’s a Democrat in office to preach “fiscal responsibility,” which somehow always has to start with the social safety net but never quite works its way up to the F-22.
How bout this theory, Obama just sandbagged these blue dog dickheads by “giving a nod” whatever the fuck that means. Then Pelosi and Reid pull the switcheroo.
OT: On AOL there is a question/poll about investigating Bush. 64% are voting “thumbs down.” Who are these people and what are they thinking? I thought we believed in responsibility and accountability, NOT, I guess.
Wouldn’t that be cannibalism?
Girl, where you been? Cannibalism part of the show’s over. Now it’s the skullfucking part.
Well I gotta admit– Obama didn’t pretend to be a liberal during the primaries, he’s exactly as advertised.
Why the frick is Obama asking the likes of Blue Dogs and Peterson how to fix this mess? What the hell do they know about Social Security? They are rich off the public teat. Why doesn’t Mr. Obama ask ME? Besides being a normal human being, I actually have a degree in economics. I could sit him down and tell him to take the money from the rich and give it back, that is, B.A.C.K. to the normal people in this country, the ones that make this economy work. Why doesn’t have his townhalls and ask the people directly so they can tell him directly. These rich, greedy SOBs do not know how this should work. They do not. And when Obama is finish speaking with us, he can appoint Mr. Krugeman, a Nobel Prizing-winning economist to be his economic advisor. Seriously, how is that so hard to consider?
well duh
If he was a liberal ya’ll could be cryin the blues about Mc Cain.
Yeah, that’s it– just like he “sandbagged” John Barrow during the primaries, LOL.
Barrow needed to win so I don’t have to see his sorry ass in his bike rider outfit in Athens.
I don’t believe for a second that Obama would gut Social Security but I’m getting tired of reading about all the ass-kissing of repubs, bluedogs, conservative journalists etc.
Mr. President, you’re ignoring your friends.
Trying to find a youtube of David Cay Johnston talking about how Greenspan pushed through “SS reform” where they took the excess and laundered it into Reagan tax cuts for the one percenters
I think he glosses over it here
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/f…..A9629C8B63
But goes into more detail in the youtube
OT: file under “duh“:
Social Security is one of the only things standing between a significant portion of the retired female population and poverty, so it takes some real nerve to argue that their benefits should be cut.
The Repbulics hate 70% of the country, why would anyone think they give a rats ass about women. They’d love everyone but themselves and their friends to live in poverty. They did a damn good job of putting millions more in poverty when the opportunity presented itself. Dems stood idly by and aided them in doing so.
Notice a trend developing? I do too…
I can hardly contain my contempt for these arrogant SOB’s who are so out of touch with anything outside Wall Street. Thanks Jane for hammering this issue; these folks are despicable. Wake up Barak.
Interesting slant in the NYTimes
they specifically name AARP, but not Pete Peterson.
NYTimes
Beats me, I’m sittin here minding my own goddamn business and get lit up by some dork.
That is exactly what I am wondering. And wasn’t people over like 60 the only demographic McCain won? Hard to see this appealing to that demo.
I didn’t know it, but according to John Amato(aka the head cheese at Crooksandliars) AOL’s user base skews somewhat Republican. How he knows that, I haven’t a clue.
or dorkette
a three-hour bipartisan wonk-fest
you know, a couple other vowels would work in the first of those two words.
aye, it would
*waves*
File this under what were they thinking? Orszag worked at the Congressional Budget Office so even he should know that Social Security is a third rail issue.
I think everyone thought Obama ran a first class campaign but now we are seeing more and more of these “Hello, is anyone home?” kind of moments.
Along these lines Summers was on the NewsHour this evening and when Ifil asked him some question about how things might go with the economic plans he blew her saying that they didn’t engage in hypotheticals.
Now when you are dealing with an economy falling into depression and you are an economist that is pretty much all you do.
He called Geithner brave to put forward a plan that was as half-assed as it was. And said that they were moving aggressively on all fronts. Which is kind of odd actually because all I am seeing are a bunch of ill thought through half measures.
Don’t you just love the implication that because you voted for the guy, it must mean that you support everything he says or does while in office?
Maybe Obama is compelled to be satisfied with one term. The poker player analogy is becoming less apt every day. Thus far, Obama has kowtowed to Corporate, Banking, and Military Industrial Complex Interests at each opportunity. He has embraced the Bushco unitary executive with this stunt (and others); he approves of enhanced interrogation techniques and government spying on American citizens. He is ready to send troops to Afghanistan with no clear purpose.
All the crap he’s pulling and he is still hated by the Right Wing and its media arm.
If Obama is playing poker its time to show his cards.
Err, it being a family show and all, I should have said that he blew her off. Those small words so important sometimes.
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I’m starting to remember why so many of the hard-corps lefties I knew in C-U became jesus freaks or right wing nut jobs.
waves back, and to Sharkbabe too
Sacre Bleu! *s*
About time Congress acted sane.
It’s not just that– hell, I voted for him too, and he’s a hell of a lot better than the alternative. I guess I still haven’t gotten over the herd mentality of the Obamapods during the primaries. It was really disheartening. I didn’t think liberals would act like that.
I recently saw a movie on the SciFi channel in which a bunch of sheep jumped off a cliff into the ocean. It was weird.
religion: a magic device for turning unanswerable questions into unquestionable answers
Political orthodoxy can be a lot like religion.
what are you talking about
First billed signed is Lilly Ledbetter. Just got the largest single expenditure in US history, while at the same time the largest tax cut in history, mostly for middle-low wage earners, and his ratings are going up steadily, despite the Noize Machine trying constantly to knock him down. Repubs are calling for nationalization of banks and begging now for bailout cash, and their ratings are tanking across the board, while Congressional Dem ratings are going up. All this and more after three weeks in office.
Obama didn’t create the environment he’s trying to change. So far though, his accomplishments are truly astounding given what he has to work with. Get whoever you want, but I would want Obama on my poker team above just about anybody. Amazing.
Scrapping Social Security benefits for those 55 and under ? So no Social Security Disability if you are under 55 ? What are those who become disabled when they aren’t yet 56 supposed to do to live ?
Horrified,
Heather
I broke my back when I was 24, hurt too bad to get unemployment and not hurt bad enough for SSI.
My mother died a few years ago at age 97. Social Security and modest savings allowed her to live her long life in dignity after my father passed away and his pension mostly went with him. She lived modestly, but could once or twice a year take the whole family including four grandchildren out to dinner. she enjoyed that. She lived in a nice assisted care place and did not have to run through everything she had saved to do it. Her sister and I could have helped if the social security had not been there, but she’d have perceived that as an indignity. She greatly appreciated being self-supporting until the end. She and my father lived through the depression in serious poverty. They worked hard all their lives, in her case into her 70s.
The removal of dignity for all such people, all without a big portfolio (damn near everyone now) is what these thugs are hellbent on achieving. Over my dead body, as my mother would have said.
Four bizness men were talking about how rotten biz is lately. We talked about how gas prices were likely manipulated by Buschco. We talked about the bailout and banks. We agreed on many issues. Funneling billions to the banks is like pouring money into a bottomless pit.
Then one of these guys sez, “Yeah, but I hope they don’t nationalize the banks. Then there won’t be any competition.”
I guess he is a Limbaugh listener. People are really confused.
watertiger upstairs
Lets see a commission study ending the war in Iraq and Afghanistan with no amendments attached in a straight up or down vote. I bet that has more support than cutting social security.
Is Fox new covering this story? Given their older viewers I wonder how they sell it?
*cough* … also the Health Care thingy for kids …
Jumping in. Maybe this is known, but it’s Sebelius for HHS if Obama has his way.
This line has been comical for me to see around most Liberal blogs. I actually drifted away from blogs for quite some time because of a deluge of unfair and fact-free complaints of Obama during the primaries. It wasn’t until Edwards dropped out that the places I most visit started to move into the Obama column, and even then it was fairly split.
Truly humorous to portray FDL in particular as Obama sheep. O-man kicked the Clinton Machine to the curb. Build a bridge…to somewhere…and get over it. You’ll feel much better.
What would it do to the electoral map if a Republican Senator’s filibuster saved Social Security from President Obama? Do the retired and soon to be retired vote much?
How’s this for an ad?
An older blond woman, attractive, and right out central casting for a grandmother is sad. She is trying to decide between medicine and food. Voice over: “Linda never asked for a hand out, she raised her children without help from the state, and volunteered at her church. She contributed to Social Security all her life. Right at the worst possible time , President Obama decide to siphon off her Social Security dollars and give huge stacks of cash to his New York limousine liberal buddies on Wall Street. President Obama said he would get the special interests out of the White House, but look at who he has as financial advisers. Fade into sinister looking photos of his financial advisers with their past Wall Street titles stamped at the bottle, making them look like Police mug shots.
Time to dust off Bush’s WH privacy shields for meeting with unnamed financial leaders.
A comforting feature of the Wall St bail out negotiations.
I think this “person” is specifically targeting some of us who supported Obama over Hillary from the start.
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Raven))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
I’m so sorry.
Hugs,
Heather
Awesome commercial. Good thing old people don’t vote much. /s
Obama is screwing the pooch here. Even talking about “fixing” it by cutting bennies or raising the retirement age is political suicide.
Aw, it was totally cool, a year in a body cast and another of rehab. I probably would have just kept swingin a hammer if it hadn’t happened. It’s a thin line.
Hopefully Obama is just giving the wittle bludogs some nice shiny beads to go quietly play with in some corner for a while.
They won’t get anything too bad *cough* get through Congress.
Everything Obama other than Lilly Ledbetter has been Blue Dog City.
My sister spent six months in a body cast and three in a walking cast. No fun.
It’s the video where he was on Lou Dobbs (which is why I kept clicking around it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZC5SJGf3Bc
I was very very lucky, goin from Champaign to Key West and got waxed in Atlanta. The orthopods from Emory were really good. Layed in the hospital and watched the war end on the tube with another Nam vet next to me. Strange days indeed.
Remember how Joe Wilson used to come here occasionally, and everyone loved him? In fact this blog actually got it’s start with the Plame scandal. Anyway, whatever happened to Joe? Oh yeah, the Obama herd turned on him viciously because he and Valarie supported “The Monster”.
Damn shame when “liberals” act like that.
#72 was supposed to be a response to you.
I have a lot of experience with family in CU hospitals. Can’t recommend them for people who value survival.
get over it
Well, I was in Grady, the huge public hospital in Atlanta. They would bring in dudes with bullet holes still smoking and chain them to the rack. Tough place.
the devil obviously did
I’m still here.
Because of childcare and elder care that most often falls on the shoulders of women, they lose on the average of $250,000 or more over a lifetime of work. See some atats here: http://www.wiserwomen.org/pdf_…..202004.pdf
It is time that we begin to respect traditional women’s work as BEING work that contributes to our society. How can we expect business and government to respect this work if we allow it to be disrespected and called “doing nothing” as they do in Welfare DEFormed???
I guess I will never stop this mantra. If women think that Welfare DEFormed only applied to POOR women, they are wrong ~ the laws in the country apply to EVERYONE. It codified into law that this work does nothing for our society when raising the next generation to take care of us when we can no longer do it IS “work”!!! It is an outright war against women to denigrate the work we have done since the beginning of humanity and what is done by women the world over.
My 2 cents
Cat in Seattle
this is INCREDIBLY bad shit from Obama. I could learn to hate him over this. why is Obama hanging out with ratfu*kers?
Thanks Jane. digg is open.
I dug it! :oD
Cat
Wow, Cat. I never thought of it that way. Very well said.
Best medium-length Jane Hamsher essay I’ve seen and read in weeks. Howie Klein would be proud.
I haven’t discovered yet how to write from an Alaskan viewpoint about my growing Obama misgivings in a way that will help our heavily Democrats gain ground here. When I do, well….
Advancements in materials, such as special purpose alloys like SV30, custom formulated for knife blades. We now have CNC machine tools which operate to tolerances of an millionth of an inch. Contemporary technology should greatly enhance the performance of the 1793 model…
It’s also called Neo-Liberalism, which is also the dominant ideology of the Obama administration. Summers, Geithner, et al, are all die-hard Neo-Liberals. Making Gramma eat cat food is par for the course. A par 3 at Augusta Country Club, to be precise.
There’s so much money to be made off of all this, to them it’s hardly insane. It’s just business. Big Business.
This is an outright war against everyone who isn’t in the top .3% income bracket. Yes, women will be disproportionally affected for several reasons, but no one who isn’t rich (regardless of gender) will be immune to this.
It’s a war against all of us. Welfare Deform (thanks, Bill Clinton!) was just the beginning of this. Now they want to finish the job, while they have the most popular president in about 8 years and one party controlling both houses of congress.
To quote another feral “Democrat,” It’s a slam dunk!
ditto
Shouldn’t ‘fiscal responsibility’ begin with cutting wasteful ‘defense’ spending?
Hedge Fund Billionaire Pete Peterson Key Speaker At Obama “Fiscal Responsibility Summit,” Will Tell Us All Why Little Old Ladies Must Eat Cat Food
another example of why you are among the best.
Jane!
Thank you for watching, listening, and calling chicken sh*t when you see and hear it.
Great idea! *Actual* Dems and progressives should mock up some cans of Blue Dog Cat Food for Seniors (and Blue Dog Dog Food for Seniors) with pix of those blue dog bastards on the front, or maybe a list of their names along with the image of an emaciated old woman. These fucks need to get nailed for what they’re doing.
I have to use Grady since I became disabled. Better then dying? Maybe not so much.