Comments on: Death Before Disorder: Health Care and “The Reader” http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:07:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: dejadejavu http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831771 dejadejavu Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:43:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831771 <p>Health care has been sold as a value. It is provided for profit and is capitalism in action, despite the millions of uninsured. The uninsured have the opportunity to live the American dream, and buy their own insurance if they succeed. The disparity is unfortunate, but to embrace European style universality would be un-American, anti-capitalistic, and although likely something Jesus would have endorsed, no patriotic rich Christian could possibly accept such a solution.</p> Health care has been sold as a value. It is provided for profit and is capitalism in action, despite the millions of uninsured. The uninsured have the opportunity to live the American dream, and buy their own insurance if they succeed. The disparity is unfortunate, but to embrace European style universality would be un-American, anti-capitalistic, and although likely something Jesus would have endorsed, no patriotic rich Christian could possibly accept such a solution.

]]> By: brione http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831758 brione Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:31:41 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831758 <p>It’s so ironic that “Equal Protection” was used to install a President, yet, somehow, it is not extended to something like health care.</p> <p>We all deserve equal protection under the law. This translates to equal access to health care, whether it be that insurers are forced to insure the “uninsureable” at the same rates as others, or that we have a universal system.</p> <p>Anything else is not Equal Protection Under the Law.</p> It’s so ironic that “Equal Protection” was used to install a President, yet, somehow, it is not extended to something like health care.

We all deserve equal protection under the law. This translates to equal access to health care, whether it be that insurers are forced to insure the “uninsureable” at the same rates as others, or that we have a universal system.

Anything else is not Equal Protection Under the Law.

]]> By: VORE http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831731 VORE Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:13:09 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831731 <p>TomThumb wrote:</p> <blockquote><p>Supervisor to Emergency Nurse: Does he have insurance?<br /> “No.”<br /> “Is he employed?”<br /> “No.”</p> <p>Note in Chart: “Presented w/chest pain. Pt. asked for no further care.” </p></blockquote> <p>1. That is against the law.<br /> 2. It doesn’t happen that way in real life.<br /> 3. I suspect you have no clue what you are talking about and just making this up based on your perverse view of the world.</p> TomThumb wrote:

Supervisor to Emergency Nurse: Does he have insurance?
“No.”
“Is he employed?”
“No.”

Note in Chart: “Presented w/chest pain. Pt. asked for no further care.”

1. That is against the law.
2. It doesn’t happen that way in real life.
3. I suspect you have no clue what you are talking about and just making this up based on your perverse view of the world.

]]> By: Bluetoe2 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831703 Bluetoe2 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:35:29 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831703 <p>If there is anyone or anything that is banal in the U.S. it is the Republican Party and their braindead minions.</p> If there is anyone or anything that is banal in the U.S. it is the Republican Party and their braindead minions.

]]> By: AitchD http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831680 AitchD Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:29:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831680 <p>It’s possible to get candidates for 2010 to promise to support progressive healthcare reform in their first 100 days; so it’s possible to influence the incumbents now to support progressive reform. They feel the blog wrath and they fear it. Plus Mister President has recognized blogs as officially as possible.</p> It’s possible to get candidates for 2010 to promise to support progressive healthcare reform in their first 100 days; so it’s possible to influence the incumbents now to support progressive reform. They feel the blog wrath and they fear it. Plus Mister President has recognized blogs as officially as possible.

]]> By: Glenn W. Smith http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831674 Glenn W. Smith Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:23:57 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831674 <p>DWBartoo, thanks, thanks, thanks.</p> DWBartoo, thanks, thanks, thanks.

]]> By: DWBartoo http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831658 DWBartoo Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:03:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831658 <p>Ah, the ‘precedent’ that wasn’t.</p> <p>‘Twas merely, it would seem,(America’s signal) banality (business) as usual.</p> <p>Glenn, I’m thinking you’ve fairly earned a number of gold stars for this post.</p> <p>DW</p> Ah, the ‘precedent’ that wasn’t.

‘Twas merely, it would seem,(America’s signal) banality (business) as usual.

Glenn, I’m thinking you’ve fairly earned a number of gold stars for this post.

DW

]]> By: macaquerman http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831650 macaquerman Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:57:13 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831650 <p>If we locked them all in the same place, that place would surely come to ruin.</p> If we locked them all in the same place, that place would surely come to ruin.

]]> By: Glenn W. Smith http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831643 Glenn W. Smith Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:47:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831643 <p>It’s the very argument used to appoint Bush president back in 2000. Democracy was made secondary to the need for order. Your point is very, very well taken. Thanks.</p> It’s the very argument used to appoint Bush president back in 2000. Democracy was made secondary to the need for order. Your point is very, very well taken. Thanks.

]]> By: DWBartoo http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831634 DWBartoo Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:43:30 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/death-before-disorder-health-care-and-the-reader/#comment-1831634 <p>You get the big BINGO!, for the thread, Annie.</p> <p>DW</p> You get the big BINGO!, for the thread, Annie.

DW

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