Comments on: DC Journalists Love GOP Obstructionists, But Americans Don’t http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:54:15 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: klynn http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831900 klynn Mon, 16 Feb 2009 01:43:22 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831900 <p>Jane,</p> <p>Thanks for this. I was at a public event on Friday and a discussion broke out regarding the stimulus package.</p> <p>We all agreed that Obama had it right to an extent and that progressives and infrastructure republicans were on the right track in terms of more spending but that Republicans overall are totally lost and dim lights economically. We all agreed to short term nationalization of the banks and regulatory liabilities like the Swedish model.</p> <p>Our opinions on the republicans, on Obama, on the Dems would track spot on with this polling. This was a mixed group of Dems, Indep and Repugs and possibly heavy on the Repugs.</p> <p>So, I am not surprised…BTW the conversation happened at an elementary school.</p> Jane,

Thanks for this. I was at a public event on Friday and a discussion broke out regarding the stimulus package.

We all agreed that Obama had it right to an extent and that progressives and infrastructure republicans were on the right track in terms of more spending but that Republicans overall are totally lost and dim lights economically. We all agreed to short term nationalization of the banks and regulatory liabilities like the Swedish model.

Our opinions on the republicans, on Obama, on the Dems would track spot on with this polling. This was a mixed group of Dems, Indep and Repugs and possibly heavy on the Repugs.

So, I am not surprised…BTW the conversation happened at an elementary school.

]]> By: paz3 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831701 paz3 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:27:21 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831701 <p>Yea-ah! Although it smacks of push polling, such a poll needs to be prefaced with the fact of the gap between the people in ‘Peoria’ and their opinions of the Dems vs. the spew coming from “Republicans are winning” spew coming from the Trad Media.</p> Yea-ah! Although it smacks of push polling, such a poll needs to be prefaced with the fact of the gap between the people in ‘Peoria’ and their opinions of the Dems vs. the spew coming from “Republicans are winning” spew coming from the Trad Media.

]]> By: xargaw http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831664 xargaw Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:12:49 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831664 <p>The MSM is holding on for dear life. Of course, they still control the cards, but their grip is weakening. More and more, we hear major lib websites sourced on cable news and just last week, Sam Stein with Huffpost actually got a Press Conf question from Obama. Web based journalism can no longer be ignored and is creeping into the MSM. Efforts to marginalize web journalists have incurred blowback on some of the biggest stories of the last few years. Dollars are shrinking in the MSM as opposed to growth on internet sites. While major newspapers are laying off workers and filing for bankruptcy Huffpost reports a 25 mil infusion of investor cash. The future is at the doorstep and knocking loudly. The old set-in-their-ways- and-mindset beltway gang is suffering from journalistic dementia. Web-based journalism fueled by smart young flexible minds are pushing the old couts out of the way. The best part of all of this is that these young fact driven journalists are not beholden to big bucks advertising and influence from big pharma, oil companies and investment houses. Sure, they need revenue, but so far they have not sold out like the tradmed.</p> The MSM is holding on for dear life. Of course, they still control the cards, but their grip is weakening. More and more, we hear major lib websites sourced on cable news and just last week, Sam Stein with Huffpost actually got a Press Conf question from Obama. Web based journalism can no longer be ignored and is creeping into the MSM. Efforts to marginalize web journalists have incurred blowback on some of the biggest stories of the last few years. Dollars are shrinking in the MSM as opposed to growth on internet sites. While major newspapers are laying off workers and filing for bankruptcy Huffpost reports a 25 mil infusion of investor cash. The future is at the doorstep and knocking loudly. The old set-in-their-ways- and-mindset beltway gang is suffering from journalistic dementia. Web-based journalism fueled by smart young flexible minds are pushing the old couts out of the way. The best part of all of this is that these young fact driven journalists are not beholden to big bucks advertising and influence from big pharma, oil companies and investment houses. Sure, they need revenue, but so far they have not sold out like the tradmed.

]]> By: KayInMaine http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831654 KayInMaine Sun, 15 Feb 2009 19:00:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831654 <p>According to SanderO, President Obama is a failure because he did not fix everything George Bush broke over 8 years….after the first 24 hours of taking office!</p> According to SanderO, President Obama is a failure because he did not fix everything George Bush broke over 8 years….after the first 24 hours of taking office!

]]> By: KayInMaine http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831652 KayInMaine Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:58:47 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831652 <p>Okay SanderO, tell us who should be in the White House then that you would approve of! Your comments & questions are no different than what the right wing has been spreading about Obama for months now, so please speak for all of them and tell us WHO would be the perfect president during our time of crisis!</p> <p>And remember, Dennis Kucinich told his supporters to support Obama when he dropped out.</p> Okay SanderO, tell us who should be in the White House then that you would approve of! Your comments & questions are no different than what the right wing has been spreading about Obama for months now, so please speak for all of them and tell us WHO would be the perfect president during our time of crisis!

And remember, Dennis Kucinich told his supporters to support Obama when he dropped out.

]]> By: dick c http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831639 dick c Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:46:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831639 <p>All in all, this bodes well for liberal media, including blogs like this. That pumping up the Republican BS is what drove me away from even looking at news and info from most of the MSM. They’re going to drive away their viewers just like the Republicans are driving away average Americans. I’d guess we’ll see much more mis-information which I have to assume is put out there to sabotage this administration. Hopefully there’s no market for it.</p> All in all, this bodes well for liberal media, including blogs like this. That pumping up the Republican BS is what drove me away from even looking at news and info from most of the MSM. They’re going to drive away their viewers just like the Republicans are driving away average Americans. I’d guess we’ll see much more mis-information which I have to assume is put out there to sabotage this administration. Hopefully there’s no market for it.

]]> By: texasaggie http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831616 texasaggie Sun, 15 Feb 2009 18:23:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831616 <p>Frankly I rather like seeing the Villagers shooting off their mouths with their brains still unengaged. Since the only people who take them seriously are the Republicans, it means those creeps are also out of touch with the rest of the world. As long as they don’t know what is happening in the real world, they will continue shooting themselves in the foot.</p> Frankly I rather like seeing the Villagers shooting off their mouths with their brains still unengaged. Since the only people who take them seriously are the Republicans, it means those creeps are also out of touch with the rest of the world. As long as they don’t know what is happening in the real world, they will continue shooting themselves in the foot.

]]> By: barbara http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831574 barbara Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:52:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831574 <p>Thanks. We could have done better. *g*</p> Thanks. We could have done better. *g*

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831567 Adie Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:43:08 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831567 <p>yeah ma. i’m COMIN’ I told ya. Jammies are under the dresser. No, but I’ll rinse the dishes after I play a zillion more games here. honest. *crosses fingers behind back*</p> yeah ma. i’m COMIN’ I told ya. Jammies are under the dresser. No, but I’ll rinse the dishes after I play a zillion more games here. honest. *crosses fingers behind back*

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831566 Adie Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:40:29 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/15/consensus-reality-vs-beltway-wisdom-on-the-stimulus-bill/#comment-1831566 <p>what’s this, the coda?</p> <p>go take a course in music theory. it might help jump-start the logic function.</p> <p>or, alternatively, fumigate the whole place and start over…</p> what’s this, the coda?

go take a course in music theory. it might help jump-start the logic function.

or, alternatively, fumigate the whole place and start over…

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