That’s right. It seems Lieberman played a crucial role in talking several Republicans off the ledge, thereby vindicating President Obama’s refusal to be vindictive toward the Connecticut Senator, who had some nasty things to say about Obama and Democrats in general during the presidential campaign. Lieberman has always been a moderate-progressive on economic issues so his vote should not be a surprise–but his active lobbying for the bill has to be considered directly attributable to the grace with which Obama treated him. Those who wonder about the President’s efforts to be nice to Republicans–a singularly ungracious lot, cult-like in their devotion to failed economic policies past–should bear this particular example in mind as we go forward.
I’ll make several points here:
1) Homeland Security is one of the most graft-ridden, wasteful departments in the federal government with an annual budget of $56 billion and Joe Lieberman as chairman of that Senate committee won’t exercise any oversight. Taking away his gavel is not "vindictive," it would have been an important step in exerting "fiscal responsibility" and breaking up the nexus of contractor corruption in Washington (which is something Obama campaigned on).
2) Is Klein saying that Lieberman’s "active lobbying for the bill" was only something he did because Obama flattered him, and that in the absence of that, he would not have acted out of principle? I’m not sure that’s a compliment.
3) Anyone who looks to this as a shining example of how to deal with Republicans might consider that it was pretty much an epic fail, and they wound up cringing in the coat room and worrying about primary challenges from the Club for Growth should they stray from party orthodoxy. On the News Hour last night Christina Romer now claims the bill will save or add 3.5 million jobs (as opposed to the 4 million previously touted), so half a million jobs were axed from the bill to curry their favor. Even Rahm Emanuel says it was a mistake and the President will "shift from bipartisan overtures to outright mockery of his opposition." So I’m not sure what the point is.
4) Lieberman’s numbers in Connecticut are in the tank. In a head-to-head race, Dick Blumenthal would beat him 58% to 30%. His approval rating with Democrats in his own state is 21/70 — he has to get with the program or face an electoral wipeout in 2012. The Ryan Grim article Klein links to says he only came in at the end of the negotiations, in time to take credit and get his face before the camera (see video).
That’s the Lieberman you can count on.



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Lieberweasel is dead meat. He couldn’t win a state wide race for superintendant of sewers. He has no present and no future. He’s a dead horse that’s kinda fun to kick cause it makes a nice hollow THUNK sound when you do.
What would happen (will happen?) if Joe runs as a Republican?
He’d get his ass handed to him of course! There is NO WAY that this fucker can ever win re-election.
These idiots need to sit through a course on economics. All of their idiotic ideas are completely discredited… except as a means for personal self enrichment.
I wish I could figure out how to get you to express your feelings. *g* I love the “no more Joe” concept.
The Senate Dems are going to have to change the 60 vote rule for increased spending not matched by cuts elsewhere. It’s not in the Constitution, and it’s not going to take away the right to Filibuster. What it will do is force the thugs to filibuster rather than force the Dems to come up with 60 votes every time they need to get something important. You can forget any kind of health reform unless they scrap that crappy rule.
Joe assigned himself the role of Collin’s handholder, and she needed one, so she wouldn’t have to feel bad about personally axing 500,000 jobs. That’s a lot of handholding.
I’d be astonished if Specter listens to Lieberman except when it’s expedient.
Klein and Lieberweasel are charter members of the Israel Israel uber alles club. They support each other’s fidelity to the pursuit of Israel’s perceived intersts above those of their native land.
“Some call it treason”
The pukes must be forced to filibuster. Let the country see them obstruct health care reform.
What’s in it for the Dems to have the 60 vote rule rather than making the pukes filibuster anyway? Nada.
He wouldn’t. He’d be a member of a disgraced party on a downward slide. Besides, why should he? He can run as an independent and caucus with whoever has power.
That is, if he doesn’t get his ass kicked.
Seems that there was some Connecticut polling recently showing Lieberweasel getting something like 30% of the vote against anyone you’d care to name..Hope he enjoys his golden years!
Goopers are goin all berserk about the stimulus bill to regain the mantle of “fiscal conservatives”- although most voters now think of em more as “pains in the ass”
Let’s not forget that 2012 is over 2 years away– far beyond the attention span of most American voters.
The great state of Minnesota seems to be within six months or so of declaring a victor in the election they held in November….
Do they collect maple syrup up there?
I think that joLIE will step out “gracefully” at the end of his term and reluctantly take a job as a lobbyist for big pharma. He knows that he can’t win again no matter how many tricks (website, oppo to War in Iraq,…) he pulls out of his, um, hat.
I’d bet a few bucks that Lieberweasel will not be on the ballot for re-election. He fucked it all up with his McBush lovefest. He’ll be 70- time to write a book and make boring fucking speeches.
I’m wondering when-and perhaps why not already-Lieberman will play the “anti-semite/you hate me cause you hate Israel” card.
are we sure he intends to run in 2012? Or will he retire to write a book on how he, Joe-the-Stim-Hero, singlehandedly saved American by transcending partisan politics? Perhaps he’ll try to transfer CFL into a national vanity movement?
Can anyone explain the dumb as dirt “Judd Gregg” nomination to me? Did Obama eat some DC Chili and create a massive brain fart? I didn’t get it- still don’t get it- may NEVER get it.
transfom CFL I mean… iPhone again
The Lake has a long memory……..and if liarman thought we were against him the last time, he ain’t seen nothing yet!
there might be an inside game of some sort there… dunno
I hope the neocons remember how their BIPARTISAN BILLS (when George and the republicans controlled the White House, House, & Senate) were called that because they had the “democrat Joe Lieberman” on the bill! Spit.
An idea for an ad Lieberschmuck’s opponent can run:
Voice-over: “Here’s the difference Joe Lieberman’s made with the stimulus:”
Then:
An image of a factory, thriving and noisy, suddenly fading to reveal an empty, graffiti-covered hulk of a building.
A school with happy, healthy kids, suddenly fading to reveal a decayed parking lot.
Cars parked along a tree-lined avenue of well-kept house, suddenly fading away as the scene itself fades to show a beat-up neighborhood.
Then the voice-over: “Can we afford another four years of Joe Lieberman?”
Here’s what I think happened:
http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/…..ment-28791
Jane talked about it yesterday — scuttlebutt is that Reid and Rahm thought it would be a good way to get another Dem seat and to remove a powerful Republican from the Senate (Gregg is apparently the evil genius behind much GOP Senate thinking). But they didn’t bother to check to see if New Hampshire’s governor would actually appoint a Democrat to the vacated seat.
It would be good if Joe moved to Israel. He could run for office there on a ticket with Bibi and their slogan could be “if it moves, shoot it.”
Was it the gov? or was it Gregg who said he wouldn’t take the position unless he was replaced by a goop?
Gregg said that… and got Obama to make the governor promise
Meanwhile, back at the ranch in Minnesota, Normie apparently had a bad day in court….court decision may cut the length of the case down to 9 months or so.
I thought the Governor said he would appoint a republican to Gregg’s seat? Huh. Gregg said in his presser that he was not going to seek reelection in 2010 even though he backed out of the Commerce Secretary position.
That is a great ad, but it needs a little adjustment, Sens serve six years.
LOL Love the idea! And hell, Netanyahu (if he steals the election) will love having ole “if it moves, I shoot it LIEberman” around, because neither one are about peace in the Middle East at all. ;-)
Let me just say that it is a good thing that Bill R. is not soiling the BO administration.
Joe Klein? Well it was only a matter of time before he went back to his faux centrist ways.
The meme jobs saved or created always has irritated me. There are currently 134.6 million Americans employed. Any of those jobs not lost in the coming 2 years could be deemed “saved”.
I am not sure what the exact numbers are in the bill re spending and tax cuts so I can’t come up with a firmer job creation figure but 3.5 million seems about right. It is very important to keep in mind that the job deficit from when the recession started in December 2007 to when it finishes in two years will be at least 9.5 million.
“Those who wonder about the President’s efforts to be nice to Republicans–a singularly ungracious lot, cult-like in their devotion to failed economic policies past–should bear this particular example in mind as we go forward.”
Thought this was a worthwhile comment by the nearly always clueless Klein.
AMERICA’S SABOTEURS
Republicans AREN’T making a sincere effort to stop the bleeding their incompetent leadership and failed policies created. Instead, they’re using conflicting economic theories as a smokescreen to conceal their real agenda, which is to undermine President Obama and cause him and America to fail.
Republicans are practicing SUBVERSIVE forms of demagoguery and guerrilla obstructionism that are intended to destabilize our economy for purposes of political exploitation.
Republicans are preposterously professing that their disgraceful political whoring had nothing to do with the banking, real estate, stock market and employment catastrophes that resulted.
Republicans are trying to hamstring Obama to prevent him from undoing the incompetent negligence of George W. Bush.
Republicans are offering up subjective controversial arguments they know no one can agree on in order to disrupt and deny progressive change. They’d rather divide America and create political gridlock than endure the political consequences of effective Democratic governance. That’s how they gained power and that’s how they’re trying to retain it.
Republicans are not the LOYAL OPPOSITION. They are the ENEMY WITHIN whose political priorities have eroded their moral and ethical standards to the point that treachery and betrayal are their preferred methods of operation.
It’s one thing to vigorously advocate their conservative beliefs; it’s another thing entirely for them to willfully sabotage America’s government because a successful Democratic president would not be vulnerable to the fears and hatreds that have produced and sustained the radical Republican corporatism and extremism that have poisoned and divided America.
It was a brilliant strategy to detach a Republican tied to Jack Abramoff and put him in the Obama Administration in a third rate position where his wacky ideas would overshadow his corruption. For reasons that still seem obscure to most earthworms this didn’t work. Go figure.
Agreed. Force them to expose themselves to the American public for the true asses they are.
Raw Story reporting that Obama is NEGOTIATING with the departed members of the Clusterfuck administration on allowing Rover to testify before congress with limitations in response to executive privelege claims….
Why in the hell would he negotiate with the staff of a man who is no longer president?
He’s carrying this brotherhood thing a bit too far!
Very well said and true. They are indeed saboteurs and as such are traitors to the American people and the Republic.
Just to be clear the shortfall in jobs will be 9.5 million – 3.6 million = 5.9 million.
Lieberman kept including the House in his ”bipartisan” compliments and thank yous and over the top praises. What did the Republican minority in the House have to do with anything? Not a damned one of them voted for it — twice.
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I think the following quote answers your question.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/jour…..ript1.html
fine. in that case, no stim jobs for retugs ;-p
I don’t think Short Ride will allow himself to fall outside the normal American Idol aficionado’s attention span. I also think he will announce that he’ll retire from the Senate.
They’re now officially the Party of Vandals. They stand for nothing more than their desire to ensure the president’s failure, even if it means the entire country has to go down with him.
Now having been through the comments glad to know I’m not alone in thinking Short Ride will bail. He should have a wonderful time as AIPAC’s representative in Tel Aviv.
Offer Lieberweasel a cabinent post- then fire him after his seat is filled.
where does the name Short Ride come from?
I believe the State Legislature in CT was debating a law that would require all hospitals to provide the Plan B contraceptive to rape victims. The Catholic supported hospitals complained and Lieberman supported them by saying “In our state, another Emergency Room is only a “Short Ride” away.”
Also the genesis of the nickname “Rape Gurney Joe”
I believe it had to do with private hospitals refusing contraception after rape that Joe felt it would be a “short ride” to another public hospital for the already traumatized victim.
Beat me to it Dakine01*g*
Last week Ben Nelson was the key figure; this week Lieberman is the key figure. My suspicion is that the heat of Specter from the right and the willing accomplice of Collins were what brought the compromise. And I would not be surprised in the least if McConnell was in on the kabuki to try to turn an epic loss into future fodder by gelding the bill. Who knew that the Republican Party in Pennsylvania and Maine was still so dear to McConnell’s heart?
Bottom line: McConnell held his losses to only three Senators. Obama succeeded in getting most of what he wanted and has the ability to come back with 2009 budget (still in continuing resolution) and the 2010 budget. Lieberman proves his continued irrelevance.