Oh, dear. Mr. Boehner’s all sad again.
It appears that the Republicans just haven’t had enough time to review the finished version of the stimulus plan, and he thinks that stinks a really lot.
To the point that he’s forgotten to use his words, and he’s throwing things.
Bother. I really hate it when that happens. Like, for instance, when the Republicans controlled the Senate, and this happened
Lobbyists for Eli Lilly & Company, the pharmaceutical giant, did not have much luck when they made the rounds on Capitol Hill earlier this year, seeking protection from lawsuits over a preservative in vaccines. Senator Bill Frist, Republican of Tennessee, tucked a provision into a bill that went nowhere. When lawmakers rebuffed a request to slip language into domestic security legislation, a Lilly spokesman said, the company gave up.
Now, in a Washington whodunit worthy of Agatha Christie, the provision has been resurrected and become law, as part of the domestic security legislation signed on Monday by President Bush. Yet in a city where politicians have perfected the art of claiming credit for deeds large and small, not a single member of Congress — or the Bush administration — will admit to being the author of the Lilly rider.
”It’s turning into one of Washington’s most interesting parlor games,” said Dave Lemmon, spokesman for Senator Debbie Stabenow, Democrat of Michigan, who has promised to introduce legislation to repeal the provision. ”There’s a lot of guessing, a lot of speculation as to who did this.”
Well, maybe not so much a mystery
The legislative history:
1. Frist offered a bill to get Eli Lilly off the hook on thimerosal in the Senate. No hearings were held.
2. That provision appeared in neither the House nor the Senate version of the Homeland Security bill as passed before the election, since it has nothing to do with homeland security.
3. After the election, a version of the Homeland Security bill was reported out by the conference committee, with several special-interest goodies, including the thimerosal language, that hadn’t been in either the House bill or the Senate bill.
4. There’s no mystery about who put it in: Armey did. But Armey had no particular interest in the thimerosal stuff. The "mystery" is who asked him to put it in. Frist, the author, specifically says he didn’t, though Armey says he put the language in after consulting with Frist. But no one will say who asked to have it inserted. The natural suspect is Mitch Daniels, the Director of OMB; the early reports were that the pressure came from "the White House," and Daniels is an ex-officer of Lilly and planning to go back to Indiana, where Lilly is based, to run for governor.
5. The Frist version had a necessary conforming amendment to the Internal Revenue Code. The Armey version, the one that passed, didn’t. As a result, the bill as passed blocks all lawsuits and directs the claims to the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, but the VICP trust fund is still barred by law from paying any such claim.
6. All the thimerosal claims are time-barred by the terms of VICP. Neither the Frist version nor the Armey version deals with that.
FYI, it turns out that, per MB at Wampum, the thimerosal provision was even less fragrant than that.
So the Frist provision was inserted into the law without it ever having been read or voted on by anyone in either house outside the conference committee, which was at the time completely controlled by Republicans. The congress was told to vote on the thimerosal immunity Frist had repeatedly attempted to get forced into law on an up or down vote with the establishment of the Department of Homeland Security. Even at that, Dennis Hastert was forced to offer to revisit the provision to get the bill passed, and it was stripped in 2003.
The conference committee, Mr. Boehner. Nobody read it and nobody voted on it and your own party shoved it into a national security bill in the conference committee.
WADR, Mr. Boehner, just shut up.
Thanks.
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Isn’t Boehner an alcoholic? That pickled red face screams it.
I watched this pimp today, he was very close again.
Invest in Kleenex™, stat!
Hey Julia!
House Republicans on CSPAN lamenting the fact that their stimulus plan was “rebuffed.” They wanted to be bipartisan but Dems wouldn’t give them everything they asked for…
Julia!
Good evening pups.
Hi Betsy.
Hey, you.
hey boner – shut the fuck up
and I don’t doubt for a minute that they were buffed the first time.
Bets!
Hey, hon. What’s going on?
You know, I edited that out of my first draft.
yea! What Suzanne said.
Buffed and waxed… poetic, ain’t it?
i wonder if boner cries because he is remembering the pain of his last waxjob
Hey, Boner…
Most people have stopped throwing crap around like that when they are about five years old.
Dickweed.
My kid has had the flu since Tuesday, but fever seems to finally be gone.
I love how they scream and holler injustice and rabid partisanship when the Dems do something not even a tenth as egregious as what they routinely did when they were in charge.
Where’s Boner’s little buttboy Eric Cantor when he needs him?
Oh Suzanne! Such a potty mouth!!
LOL!!!
The Bagman blubberin’ again?
the fact that the republicans did this to the democrats does NOT mean the democrats can do it to america
this bill cannot be voted on without getting a chance to read it, sorry, today I am a republican and I would throw that bill on the floor also
dugg
They are cying in their beers right this moment I will have you know! Poor babies…
I didn’t keep good track of how the stim progressed, so I may be wrong about this.
But IIRC, the bill that originated in the House and landed in the Senate had 42% devoted to tax cuts. If I am wrong, fine. But if that’s how anyone else remembers it, please join me in asking Boner how they did not have input…
Signed, confused by Democratic intransigence to make that bleeping argument!
i am a dfh feminazi blogger yanno
Boner is a gratting actor but a crappy person.
But it wasn’t ALL tax cuts and those tax cuts aren’t going to rich people.
For the life of me, I can’t understand why that man uses the amount of spray tan that he does. He looks like an unusually relaxed saddle.
And I agree. Change does NOT mean the dems doing the same thing that the repubs did for 8 years.
Excessive partisanship goes both ways and I’m seeing early signs of it and UGH, it’s not pretty.
And I bet you are proud ot that!
Partisans.
One rep (not certain who she was) complained that they were voting on a bill none of them had read or could understand. Apparently House members held themselves to a higher standard back when they were rubber stamping Bush policies.
I think they find it attractive in those Southern leather bars.
Well, yeah. Considering how the birth control provision was cut out before it even reached the floor in the House, I’m saying they had input. Granted, they chose to vote against, but they accomplished a great deal, if you think what they accomplished was a great deal.
Sn. Vitter is for Change… as in change his diaper!
Fine. I repeat…
…confused by Democratic intransigence to make that bleeping argument!
We absolutely suck at messaging. Absolutely suck.
wouldn’t you be?
What exactly didn’t they get a chance to read? The major changes were Republlican amendments.
HEY! *G* Thought you was busy . . . ;-)
By input the Rethugs mean “we want more than whatever is there.”
Tax cuts are the answer. What was the question?
Well, we DFH feminist bloggers are proud for her.
fuckin’ a dood!
By the time he’s my age he’s gonna look like an old saddle that’s been left out in the sun.
Bad mental image. My brain is doing that biology class trying to catch an amoeba with a pipette thing.
Yeah, but this is just a beginning . . . ya know? *G*
wha?????? i’m off duty tonight!
Pipette is the MPS name for Palin’s youngest daughter.
I was here a week ago and this site was bemoaning the passage of this bill. You know who you are. Can we expect feedback now?
Most saddles have probably supported fewer asses than Boehner.
True. Every freaking Democrat in Congress and every official in the Obama administration ought to be hammering away at the fact that these same Republican policies over the past 8 years (actually 30 , since Clinton was really a moderate Republican) created this ginormous clusterfuck and doing it 24/7. They should then hammer Congressional Republicans as partisan hacks who would gleefully burn the country to the ground for some meager political gain and point out that pretty much every economist not employed by AEI, the Heritage Foundation, or the University of Chicago says that this is the way to go and that if anything it is too small.
What exactly was the promise? To post a bill before it’s voted on or before O signs it?
snort, sir. Oh, snort.
I really enjoyed that.
It’s a perverse form of self mutilation.
We would seem to be on the same wave length here.
I was impatient with Obama’s lack of ‘elbow shots’ at McCheese during the campaign. I was wrong. But now he needs not just a win, but the right win, and their toolbag is brimming with great arguments that get them there, to the stim we need, not just the one we have to settle for.
He better get a lot more in approps.
I’m confused. What do you think the problem is? I’m not thrilled with parts of this bill. I reserve the right to be amused when Mr. Boehner, who cheerfully behaved like a thug when his party was in power, gets vapory about collegiality.
Argue on the merits. Have at it. This is not the fight you want.
Vituperative, fucking Vituperative . . . how come none of the Pups can ‘rember such a simple phreakin woid . . PHREAKING VITUPERATIVE!!!!
Hell, it was a badge at ONE phrellin point . . . ;-)
VITUPERATIVE, BITCHEZ!! ‘MEMBER IT!!! *G*
N foul mouthed, too.
We’ve forgotten SO much so soon . . . *sigh* ;-)
Hey Suz, snowin and cold? *G*
Even cold here . . . no snow, but Bay Area and Nor Cal is snowy about at 1K ft. all around!!!
Man, what I would give for my old haunt atop W. 39th in San Mateo, with that HUGE double bay window corner and a direct view over Teh Bay and Mt. Diablo! That suckah is gonna be WHITE CAPPED by tomorrow morning . . *G*
We need the water, and snow, and well, at this rate we MIGHT be 50% of normal despite three years of drought in CA.
Otherwise, we’d be 300% of normal. And we’re STILL gonna be hoarding water by June in this state of thristy.
Oh well, on to other stuff . . . *wavestoall*
*Incoming*
I’d like somebody to start naming the economists at Heritage and AEI that the Rethug congresscritters are so fond of referring to, without naming them. Then put them on teebee to explain their analyses and recommendations. I’d love to see a couple of them on with Cokie and George. All of them drinkin’ the Kool-aid and goin’ kumbayah.
That one deserves to make the BIG TIME, ratfood.
Of course, you need SD’s ‘lead in’ to set it up …
;~D
I for one, have changed since last week. Okay, I confess, I only turned ‘em inside out. I really ought to do some laundry.
Oh, yeah. DAMN!!!! I gotta go save teh blog!!! lololol
It’s all about teamwork.
What’s your point?
Depends on his fav position.
He might have a few under him, ya know.
*G*
I would like to see them on with Krugman, Delong, Baker, & Roubini. Loves to see me some glibertarian ass mowed.
hey larue – snow all around me but none here
I just figured since his face is always so “tan”…
Either way it’s a win-win. With Cokie et al the world gets to see just how batshit crazy these people can be. With Krugman et al they get their asses handed to them on a platter. Break out the cookies and ice cream breakfast.
aha
then I change my mind
Thanks for asking. What is it you don’t get? About the old ‘Vituperative’ schtick? Were ya out of the country when that went down? Or were ya just down?
I’m bonding with Suz, making weather, and tossing in some snark too . . .
Hope that clears it up?
What’s YER point? *blink*
*G* is overrated
Face? Or Butt? Both are wrinkled and . . . um, time to stop. *G*
Love yer pithy, always, hoss . . *G*
I don’t want any fights. I sensed defeatism here when the compromise was announced last week.
You been drinkin’ again?
Just what have I done to deserve yer ill considered attention?
Actually, Republican complaints about being unable to read the bill were not in reference to the time available.
Hey, if yer spoilin for a fight . . . I’m not sure why.
*blather*
True. Hard to read when you are as illiterate as that bunch.
Gooood. Had to read that twice.
only 13 diggs?
Hey Mod’s, whos DR. Bong, and why’s he dissin on me and I get modded? P
Hey!
Leave it outside. This here’s a saparilla bar.
I confess to being slightly pithy, although at times it thlows to merely a trickle.
larue will never let me forget that i used to be a bitch with a badge, in touch with my inner bitch, can go from zero to bitch in .000003 seconds
Hey, I did my part.
Take it to the first one who threw the first punch, will ya?
Oh dear again.
Defeatism is an awfully big word. My own mental image of it, politically, would be people who don’t see their way out of the minority concentrating their energies on sniping.
Again, FWIW. Like I said, I’m not thrilled with how this shook out, but as I see it, the problem is that Obama and his team dealt with national Republicans as if they cared more about the country than they did about having a weakened president and congress to run against.
I have some difficulty believing that most of the people who are voting for Republicans are truly casting their votes for the country to fail so that a few shiny-faced strivers can be elected to enact tax cuts.
Yeah, right.
Ditto.
NO WAY!!! That’s just not me, gal.
I’d NEVER post about that stuff . . .
Heck, I LOVE all that stuff about ya!! *G*
is this where i blow my whistle, ring the bell, and send everyone to their neutral corners to start over again?
Unless Mr. Boehner is not a Republican, at least some of them were.
yanking your chain dood
Well, in his case, his lips got tired and he needed a time out.
I’ll have a glass of Milk … in a Dirty Glass – Bob Hope
Responding like Pavlov’s Pup . . . *G*
Be warm, be well . . . skritches to the critters. *G*
My comment referred to their illiteracy.
Julia, I should clarify. FDL posts were not specifically anti-bill, but many comments were Eeyore-ish. I was trying to see the good in the bill at the time, but this wasn’t the place for optimism at that time. That’s all.
Good evening, Petrocelli.
Just tie your horse up outside and mosey on in.
N ya SPELT it wrong, too . . . sas it is. :P
Go look up a recipe for ‘Black Cow’ cocktail.
‘Kin kids . . . . *rollseyes*
What we have here is a failure to communicate
“G”
;~P
*Smiley*
wev
If Boner seems bitchy now, wait ’til Barack and The Spines™ bring the next Bill to his desk.
Nah, yer just a putz. C ya. *poof*
One can only wish…
I think we’re all disgusted at Republican efforts to play political football with such an important issue. As Boehner said (paraphrasing) “We can become the majority party again one issue at a time.” I don’t think anyone here believes the stimulus bill that passed is perfect.
The earth just shifted on its axis.
NPR news on the hour just spoke in positive tones about the stim and played only a quote from Schumer…
Still seem a bit in short supply to me. Too fucking many dipshit Blue Dogs by far.
g’evening, Julia, Suze, TLM, & Pups!
Lurk misspelled. Brewskis on the house.
*going to be hell on my expense account*
Sarsparilla…
can’t argue with you there.
skritches given
g’night. Thanks for stopping by.
Hi and bye.
Getting this bill passed has left me all tuckered out. Wishing a splendid weekend to all.
Hey there, NDFG!
Like you said, there’s been 30 years of Republican rule … the Dems made some great progress with this Bill and will get stronger as time goes by.
Night!
{{{{{NDFG}}}}}
hey ndfg
g’nite ratfood
We’ve still got a problem in the Senate. Assuming that Franken prevails sometime this century that only gives us 59 seats. Some of the more conservative Dems, like Nelson (FL), may not go along all the time. Was the solid opposition, except the 3, a show of force or will it be their routine? Obstructionism that the whole country can see as it happens will not bode well for them in 2010 or 2012.
Hey when do I get my code book and secret ring so I too can be a dfh feminazi blogger?
I already have a Mission Statement: World Domination!
As long as the Dems hammer the point home and do not let them carry their message that the stimulus is failing, etc.
Earth shifting, no doubt.
I’ve had two Lush Limpbaugh-listening Repub voters tell me in the last two weeks that they’re pissed the spending isn’t bigger and doesn’t concentrate enough on “sustainable” jobs. Almost choked on my arugula!
The biggest spending bill ever in America’s history, much bigger than the First New Deal when adjusted for inflation, and Repub voters are saying we should be spending more. And the funny thing is that they don’t even seem to realize their hypocrisy. Obama’s really, really good at this stuff.
It is a sad fact of human nature our tendency to zero directly in on the bad with the wringing of hands and stamping of feet while the good gets totally lost in our frustration instead of seeing and finding value in the good while planning action against the bad.
Hey NDFG!
Frankly I was saddened to see so many comments parroting the common wisdom that the bill would never ever work, and that we had been sold a bill of goods by Obama, and that the world was at an end. Many from the same FDLers that had been there for the fight over the last 4 years or so.
I have been absent since the election for my own reasons, so I understand being persona-non-grata. But I hope no one wants me to STFU.
OTOH, if we have any influence at all, it needs to be used BEFORE the deed is done.
We can see pluses and minuses now (after the votes are in), but until it’s settled, we have to shout like Hell to make it better.
Good evening everyone….. Just got home from my Valentines dinner with Elmore…… I am stuffed……
BTW Elmore’s Boner sighting at National airport, he is positive that Boner was wearing studio makeup and not a tan……. wondering why he still was in makeup…..
Think I will head out. Take care all.
*waves at the assorted hellos*
I thought i had reached my limits as to how much Rethugs can rasp on my last nerve, but this week was a new low. I’ve been snarling and surly all week, tending to curse at any visible sign of Rethuglicanism … mebbe it’s because Norm Coleman is just a butt boil that won’t go away. GAH.
Woo Hoo … dominate me, pleeeeeze !
ya gotta get a blog to be a dfh blogger
There’s the rub. The administration is going to have to show that some part of the economy is moving, and not south, in a short period of time, say a FU. Doesn’t have to be a big shift, just enough to show that some progress is being made somewhere. Mayhaps Americans can learn what patience is. Yeah, I know…
g’nite dr dick
dood. Speaking as a person of italian descent, I apologize for the arugula assault.
It is kind of astonishing, isn’t it? I work in a building with a division of [large bank receiving massive bailout funds], and at least the ones I know are all seriously pissed off at the system for letting things become this messy.
Maybe he had it tattooed on, so that it doesn’t run when he cries. *g*
i haven’t been around much the last half year or so due to job constraints … but i for one am glad to see you here and don’t want you to STFU.
chs upstairs
Namaste, sophiehunter
Long time no see.
the only persons i want to stfu are the r congresscritters
I totally agree with you, it is negative histrionics and lamentations that can be a problem in getting things accomplished.
Oh, that’s creepy.
I’m not sure it’s creepier than tanning booths or self-tanning, but yuck.
And a few of these guys, too.
Namaste SD. Hope all is well.
I was just about to include them as well … sending ya a chilled Leffe anyways.
I’m really glad to see you and hear you, please don’t keep quiet.
I am most honored to swig one with you.
Cooper – especially Cooper – OUT!
Oh, hey. It’s after midnight here. Happy Valentine’s Day!
This is what I got the beleaguered husband the former geography major. The kid got a two pound dark chocolate kewpie doll.
Thanks.
nite Julia
loved this thread
that is forking awesome!!!
G’night, hon. Have a good long weekend.
We all be fine, thanks.
After Midnight.
I actually think the BlueDogs are going to give BO the toughest fight … because they strive to define the Dem party according to their ideology.
It’s going to be fun watching them go 15 rounds with the Lefty …
Happy Valentine’s Day dear friends !
… off to bed …
Holy smokes. Zero dark thirty. Off to my tree.
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.
Namaste
Peace and sweet dreams SD!
If recent experience hasn’t taught him who and how to fight, it will be a bunch of very messy internal battles that does him bad. I agree.
He (IMO) needs to snap them over his knee right now.
Found this in another thread, petro.
grin.
Night, folks. Thanks for keeping me company.
Stimulus package! I have a kid in public school, and I go to work by public transportation, so yay!
Happy Valentines Day, and enjoy the long weekend.
Her Majesty is off to Grandma camp tomorrow, so the next time you see me, I’ll be rested…
He wasn’t arrested for that?!?
Elmore’s an exhibitionist?
I submit to your supreme superiority and hunbly comply with your edicts oh great fem dfh dominatoress…kissing feet eyes closed in total submission and gratitude.
Hi Sophie…all thatObama bipartisanshit didn’t fly…how come. Let er rip.
Cinch…the states will stop bleeding government jobs.
Shhhhh he’s online too……… Thanks…… next time I won’t share weird stuff….
It’s the crocks in the banks not the “system”. SEC looked the other way while the banks created the shitpile…right?
late late nite 2 flights up
It was wrong when they wrote bills by themselves and had votes before everyone had a chance to read the entire final bill and it’s wrong now. Last I knew this was a democracy and to me that means a bill ALWAYS gets read and I think they should have 1 to 2 weeks before voting on the bill. And both parties should have started out writing the bill. I felt sick to my stomach when this bill went to the Senate with no Rep votes. That’s my opinion. I thought things would change but it seems like this Congress will behave as bad as the Congresses of the past 8 years.
So much for change we can believe in.
I want to know whether he takes his eyeliner off at night or just puts more on over the top of the old stuff. It never seems to smudge :-)
Will cities and towns in Boehner’s district be receiving stimulus funds?
It seems to me that Boehner should turn away the funds to be consistent.
Bob – I’m with you. I think any state that has a governor who trashed the stimulus package should get zip. I think any state whose GOP senators did not vote for the package should get either one half of the money they ordinarily would have if they have one GOP senator and zip if they have two. That’s my story and I’m sticking with it.
Anyone for sending a box of Depends to the pants wetting Senator? I think it would by hysterical if ‘Boner’ received thousands of boxes!
A bill passes by a comfortable margin in the House. Important provisions were stripped out of it in negotiations between the White House and the House committees before they hit the floor because the Republicans said that paying for, for instance, birth control was a deal breaker for them.
So the “offensive” provisions – which would have helped a lot of vulnerable people – were taken out of the bill as a gesture of cooperation and and not. a. single. Republican. voted. for. it.
Your position, if I understand it, is that despite the fact that the overwhelming majority of the nation wants the bill passed and there were more than enough votes to pass it, the Democrats should have tabled the bill because it offends your amour propre that the Republicans weren’t able to stop it?
You can argue the timing, but you have to realize that the rest of what you’re saying isn’t very practical or democratic.
Hey Johnny… here’s a j******…catch !!
NeoNut moron….
[Mod note: Please do not suggest violent acts on others, even in jest. Thank you.].
Julia, I did not write one word about tabling the bill, I wanted it to pass. My opinion is some from both parties should have sat down to write the bill in the beginning. If that didn’t work at least they tried to work together. And every bill should be printed and online for our legislatures and us to read 1 week before final voting.
I guess I don’t understand your point, then. Major provisions of the bill were stricken before it was presented for a vote in the House because the White House solicited the opinion of the House Republicans and removed what they were particularly offended by.
That seems to me to be a remarkable level of collaboration. That the Republicans were acting in bad faith in having provisions stripped from a bill that they had already determined not to vote for – but that they are now taking credit for in their constituencies – suggests that the lack of bipartisanship is pretty much on the other side of the aisle.
Of course, it makes it worse for me that the provisions that were removed were, to my mind, sensible and just.