The House just passed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. It now goes to the Senate for a final vote, which is expected to take place tonight. People will be looking over the text of the bill to figure out what it is that passed.
Meanwhile, Rahm Emanuel is putting a stake in through the heart of bipartisanship:
Mr. Emanuel owned up to one mistake: message. What he called the outside game slipped away from the White House last week, when the president and others stressed bipartisanship rather than job creation as they moved toward passing the measure. White House officials allowed an insatiable desire in Washington for bipartisanship to cloud the economic message a point coming clear in a study being conducted on what went wrong and what went right with the package, he said.
I’m reading those words and I’m wincing. I argued strongly at the time that prizing bipartisan "process" over substance (jobs creation) was a big mistake, and I fundamentally don’t believe it’s possible to work with the other side if they have no higher goal than to undermine you if you won’t appease them by adopting the same policies that created the problem in the first place. It just isn’t possible.
But a commitment to transcend partisanship was a successful message, and it did inspire people — they believed that Obama was sincerely trying to rise above DC gridlock that appeared to keep meaningful change from happening. They really hoped that if he remained committed to it over time, the "ten dimensional chess" he was playing could change the political discourse. And hell, for all I know maybe it could.
I didn’t suggest he abandon his own message, and I sure didn’t recommend that he do a 180 and "shift from bipartisan overtures to outright mockery of his opposition," which is what Rahm Emanuel just told the press. I thought he should establish concrete objectives by which the efforts of both parties could be measured, and then put out the welcome mat to anyone who wanted to join him in that task.
I thought that Obama’s vigorous defense of the bill before House Democrats hit just the right note, and that he made a successful argument on substance rather than process. It was possible to save the message and just shift tactics:
Obama plans to travel more and campaign more in an effort to pressure lawmakers with public support, rather than worrying about whether he can win over Republican votes in Congress.
I think Obama is actually adjusting rather pitch-perfectly to what the Republicans are throwing at him. He doesn’t need Rahm out there announcing that his commitment to "bipartisanship" was just "for the sake of appearances."



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yes, bipartisanship can come from the bottom up. In other words, press the public to press those in Congress. Those living and working in Congress dont get it. It isnt necessarily Republicans; look at all the GOP governors who support this and mayors, some of whom are speaking out loudly–Crist, Schwarzenegger.
Take the DC bubble-press on the road, as OB has started to do-to, and force them to cover the story.
It is the DC gooper party that has died. I bet there are some goopers in congress in NC, IN, FL, where OB won, who can hear the footsteps.
Jane, this smells VERY much like Rahm’s trying to wipe his own fingerprints off of the bipartisanship gambit when this was his baby as much as it was Obama’s.
I have a feeling that Rahm will be gone within the year, and then he’ll write a whiny-ass tell-all book painting himself as a martyr.
Digby, quoting Sullivan:
Credit where it’s due — Sully catches Judd Gregg praising the stimulus package (you know, the one he used as a pretext to back out of the Commerce Secretary slot because he said he didn’t like it at all?)
rove is burrying their party and make no mistake about this, it’s rove’s idea
they COULD have forumulated a no lose scenario, IF they had a minority of swing stage republicans vote for the bill, then if it works they can claim the forsight and other republicans would have been able to run with it
if it failed then the party would have been able to say they were right, the democrats were wrong, the moderates were wrong to vote for the bill
rove/rush really are morons
So, bipartisanship-wise, we’re most truly and thoroughly fucked, eh?
don’t mean nuthin
seems as though this man, (unlike his predecessor) really does learn, and fast too
That is outstanding, and is even better than a new pony!
bi-partisant was going to screw us, without it we have a chance to rebuild
Rep Cao from NO had been in the news recently indicating he was going to vote for the stimulus. I guess the Rethug machine got to him. So much for free thought in the rethug party.
http://www.wdsu.com/money/18703530/detail.html
So if bipartisanship is dead, does that mean we get Howard Dean for HHS and Van Jones for Commerce? Please?
And Republicans will make him pay it, day after day, painful filibuster after painful filibuster. You have got your “stimulus”. You OWN it. You’ll eat it in 2010. Just like you did to President Bush and Vice President Cheney.
Van Jones? Booyah!! Howard Dean as well. Rock on.
If bipartisanship is dead, maybe BO doesn’t need Rahmbo any more. He sure seems to be adding drama where it isn’t needed!
Dear Mr President
Your Chief of Staff didn’t happen to move into his office with a huge, hollow horse statue, did he?!!
FunnyDiva
Maybe Obama should give the GOP and the Right Wingnutters a taste of their own medicine. How about arrest and detention of any Republican criticizing the Commander in chief during wartime. Because, we all know that the President cannot do anything illegal with his “Wartime” powers.
More of the partisan slamming please. I am sick and tired of the out of power and toothless Reslimeicans getting away with any sort of messaging victory. They suck, they know they suck. The have ruined our economy and tarnished our nation and the more Obama and the progressives can scream this, the better our nation will become.
had a person said “he hoped bush failed” when facing whatever national crisis of the week bush pretended, they would have been called a traitor
had it been done while overseas we can be pretty darned certain they would have been in gitmo or abu graeb enjoying “enhanced” conversation
Think Progress has this take on bipartisanship
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/…..tisanship/
Bispartisanship should have died before we got 40 percent tax cuts in the stimulus bill. Are we better off from having it at all?
Bipartisanship, I mean?
Does Emanuel just talk too much, is it just vanity, or is there something more nefarious here?
To pursue the poker analogy — while Obama can be bluffed, Emanuel seems to want to show his cards even after the other guy’s folded.
Not enough to let it die. Carcass needs to be epoxy’d to the GOP, the party that values itself over the country, all day, every day.
You said recently that we try to move the discourse outside the zone of consensus to the parts of reality which are not discussed. In your model of concentric circles, the zone of deviance, the outer ring, never gets discussed until it is too late. We are blindsided by things we do not have in focus.
Is it possible that while we are focused on this legitimized topic of political bipartisanship that we are missing another more subtle version of boundary breaking? These private-public banks which are being formed to buy ‘bad’ assets from Wall St. and which are being formed to create capital for new infrastructure projects……they are breaking down the boundaries which are typically held between government and business. Like the Federal Reserve, they will be run by a few appointees. Just as we are concerned about the political loyalty of politicians, should we not also be concerned about the loyalties of these small groups of appointees who will have been given great financial powers?
From Pirates of Aunti France by Boehner and McConnell:
SONG–NANCY:
Oh, is there not one rightwinger
Which does not feel the moral beauty
Of making party interest
Subordinate to sense of duty?
Who would not give up willingly
All neocon ambition,
To rescue the economy
From its unfortunate position?
From its position,
To rescue the economy
From its unfortunate position?
HOUSE REPUBS: Alas! there’s not one right winger
Which seems to feel the moral beauty
Of making party interest
Subordinate to sense of duty!
HARRY: Oh, is there not one Senator
Whose state is moving from the red now
And feels all hope will disappear
Of winning in 2010 now?
Of such a one, if such there be,
I swear by Heaven’s arch above you,
If you will cast your eyes on me,
However red you be, I’ll love you,
However red you be,
If you will cast your eyes on me,
However red you be I’ll love you,
I’ll love you, I’ll love you, I’ll love you!
The Taliban insurgency has come to america
http://whywontgodhealamputees……pic=4216.0
He’s also trying to grub reflected glory from Obama’s own appeal and charisma.
Rahm needs to be shown the door.
My thoughts exactly!
Rahm sure does have a way with words. /s
so how many thousands of jobs were cut from the bill because Obama had to learn the hard way that republicans just want failure? That republicans want this country to fail must be broadcast throughout all corners of this country, so the reblicans can thus E.A.T. I.T.
The person that said that is a sex tourist and a illegal drug abuser. Yet, he still makes millions every year off of the wingnuts by spewing hate. It is sad.
Hopefully the Democrats can be organized enough to make that part of their message daily.
If you are 9 months pregnant and oh so excited about your first baby, it is not a good idea to buy one of Michael Vick’s pitbulls. If on the other hand that’s really a pillow under your shirt, you should be ready to rahmble.
But I like bipartisanship. And unicorns.
OT from the Arizona Republic
Four U.S. House members call for investigation into Arpaio
Who was it yesterday that said Dems/Obama extended the olive branch and the goopers rejected it? I think that was right on target.
Rethug to English Dictionary
Bipartisanship: total capitulation to their viewpoint
Participation: running the show
Republican: all that which is America
Democrat: socialist
History: democratic failure / republican success
f.i.n.a.l.l.y!
Too true.
Napolitano should enjoy this. The Joker is a sad tale in Arizona. The nutters will be out in force. Betcha Lou Dobbs goes super-whacko.
Aside from Rahm’s loose lips, I am happy to see Obama learn from this mistake. As I watched him bend over backwards for the Rs on the stim, I became increasingly afraid that he was so intent on bipartisanship that it had become more important than anything else, and all that would imply for legislation going forward.
Yep. First he’ll grab total credit for something good. Exaggerate it and his role. If they’d just listened to me, everything would have panned out like this.
i wish obama would go big with something to inspire people instead of the pre-compromise which no one is very enthusiastic about. i get that some people are enthusiastic about obama no matter what he does, but will that be enough? i don’t know.
Sorry — in and out of this thread. Brought brother here from latest hospital stay today. Back to caregiving. He’s a sweet guy!
Republicans as Taliban? Chicken/egg thingie? Either way, ick!
Classy guy that Judd Gregg. He’s found his vote again; and it’s a No on the stimulus.
To paraphrase: “It was all my fault, and I wish President Obama well, and now that I’m back in the pack with the rest of these witless, narrow, mean-spirited, no-good bastards, I feel it incumbent upon me to vote like the rest of my cohort: Noooooo!”
Time to put “bipartisanship” aside and choose a Democrat for a change.
I wonder how the vote would change if the house members had to really be responsible for their votes — in other words, if they voted against the bill, then their districts would be precluded from receiving any of the bill’s funding?
We shall see how progressives…or is it straight Islamo-Fascist Communists, deal with such things as liberty, First Amendment, etc. So far, you’re doing a great job of emulating those you claim to hate. In the meantime, the GOP is taking notes, those in the Security apparatus are still there, and you should be aware that you cannot get your will past the American people who didn’t know what they were voting for when they got the Bamster.
bipartisanship with the current crop of rethugs is “appeasement,” to use one of Romney and shrub’s favorite insults. compromise with idealogues doesn’t work.
Jane,
Thanks for your very astute analysis.
Now, please put this in the context of Obama’s Lincoln B’day speech in Springfield, where he seemed to be shifting to emphasizing once again the term United States, instead of the “bipartisanship” meme. How can he emphasize “union”, as he seemed to want to in Springfield, while avoiding the “bipartisan” trap?
Bob in HI
whoever runs against him in the next election needs to throw this bit of raging hyprocrisy right back into his rethug face
Schumer’s calling bullshit on the GOP intransigence on CSPAN at the moment.
Good. To. See.
obsurd, and who is this comming from but “freedomnow”
you have somehow managed to associate pointing the republican party’s fascism with my personal beliefs
transparent and I suppose that works when arguing with republican fascists, and those who defend same
The GOP have such
Original talking points
but it saves money on hiring more than talking points writer.
Second that. Obama learned, and he also gave the pugs an open invitation to demonstrate what they’re made of: pure partisan over substance, over the country’s future, over the people hurt by this nonsense. They fell head-over-heels into the trap. I don’t think voters will miss that, not from what I’m hearing. People are furious at the Rs.
Oh, and another thing, does this at long last tag Rahm as a wayw
aord monster-child? – per your discreet and deadly accurate #29 ?Rahm is certainly proving an effective lightning rod as Obama floats above the fray, taking his message to the people, gettinga radio station internship for Julio and a home with her own kitchen and bathroom for Henrietta. Rahm slaves away at the White House, with many trips to the Capitol to throw “silly” spending programs overboard, leaving his fingerprints everywhere with poorly disguised media leaks.
It’s a strategy: making Rahm hated but perhaps effective, getting Rahm blamed for telegraphing moves you may not actually be making, letting Rahm take the fall for the sausage-making — he’s already lost a finger in the meat slicer. I’m not sure it’s an effective strategy quite yet, and it bodes ill for Rahm’s friend-making in the long haul, but I’m not sure that matters to him.
I mean, how different was the stimulus bill that’s passing today from the one Obama proposed? $775b versus $789b. 58:42::65:35 spending versus taxcuts. This is a big success for Obama, finally, and Rahm wants the credit. Apparently, Obama is willing to let him have that and the blame too!
We’ll see, won’t we?
let me go on;
mmm hmmmm
I love the handle these trolls use, things like “thepatriot”, “libertylou”
you have defended the fascist that brought this country to it’s knees
keep it up
OK, but I’ll never forgive him for Mukasey.
New post by Christy—>
Pardon, Sire. Your dissection is prepped and ready for your immediate attention in aisle 13, whenever you choose. No need to sharpen implements. It should be pretty cut & dried by the time you get ’round to it. Ah, yes. Funny u should ask about the existing tape and stitches. This is not the 1st visit.
Excellent, Sire. Please to wander over to aisle 59 and follow the tufts of hair back from there, thence forward yet again, hopefully before too long.
Pardon. Is this seat next to you taken? Sometimes I like to watch.
EPU-time. perfect!
punaise, please don’t rush away in too much of a hurry. I’m sure Christy will understand. Aisle 59 please. thank you kindly.
my troll-dar sensors are a bit rusty, but thanks for the heads-up….
that’s OK, Obama also has a secret plan to end the war in Vietnam.
if instincts serve, a practice lob should suffice. ;->
Funny how FreedomNow and its ilk only shows up when their team feels threatened. And they sure put their foot in it today.
bad-a-BOOM!
sweet!
thanks, Jane!
if Rahm admits to making mistakes with messaging … then why is he continuing to muck up the messaging. is Rahm doing as Rahm wants or as Obama wants? is it bad cop, good cop? is Rahm a necessary evil? or is he afflicted in the same way as the goopers … with an impulse to dig in ever deeper on a losing strategy?
i dunno.
and the very good news is: Obama and company will be using the goopers own actions AGAINST them. there will be no more tax cuts: Obama will say … ”I gave the tax cuts I promised and I gave them to the GOP in the stimulus in the spirit of bipartisanship (that was their pet strategy FOR the stimulus after all) and they shut me out anyway. Less. Than. A. Handful. Of. Votes. And not even a token nod in the House.
Obama comes out in fine form, bipartisanship is defanged, people are mad at the GOP, AND there’s a record of ugly pointless stupidity to use against the GOP strategists going forward.
hey, what’s NOT to like?
now. to Chrisy’s court. *poof*
So far Rethug senators Brownback, Bond, Bunning, Martinez, Voinovich, and yesterday Gregg have indicated that they will not run in 2010. Aditionally K B Hutchinson is expected to run for TX Gov. After 2010, with any modicome of stimulus success, will give the dems a super majority in the senate.
You can be sure the GOP will…support for the Porkulus Bill went down to under 30% before the final vote. Soon, the Bamster will be less popular than you all tried to make George W. Bush…
ahhhhhh. Popcorn? Help yerself. It’s quite fresh.
if Obama and his geniuses have truly figured out the disgusting anti-American sorry-ass excuses for humans that they’re dealing with in the form of the disloyal opposition republican party, they’ll be able to use it to their advantage to go on the attack and further dissipate the republican party. If not, then you can kiss progress good bye, and Obama will become the new Bill Clinton.
The Republicans are more for this country than any of the redistributionists are…as far as political savvy, this was smart. They are more unified and have more support now than they did in November. And Bamster has been hurt, and pretty badly. He has been exposed as amateur hour.
You bore me on so many levels that I’d have to pay a geologist to interpret the stratigraphy.
Ah now now. Dabs forhead. Have s’more popcorn. Mebbe a little splash of voddkuh in yer lemmingaid?
Christy’s upstairs for the truly righteous. You may go on up if the haznit wit’s too thick here.
You’ve performed nobly. I do thank you for your service. ;->
Jud Greg, after being knee-capped! LOL
Speaking of “enhanced conversation”, did you read the recent story about an FBI woman who tortured, er enhanced a “Mumbai attacks” suspect with SEX. Yep, she stripped him naked and performed sex acts on him while questioning him. Honest to God, read the story today.
I thought we had gotten past the Bush era craziness, but I suppose some people haven’t gotten the memo yet.
“For this country.” Hm. You folks keep using those words. I do not think those words mean what you think they mean.
I saw something amazing today while walking in the park. A huge tree had just fallen over, broken off right at the roots.
Now for some snark: and a Republican was standing there complaining that he’d asked for an olive branch and now he couldn’t get through because the tree was so huge it blocked his way.
“Be careful what you wish for” is still valid. In the stimulus bill debate the Republicans complained about lack of bipartisanship and their obstructionist attitude (in spite of the acknowledged emergency) is killing them with the electorate. Will they continue that or wisen up?
bizarre…this losing their “permanent majority” was real savy, let me tell you
They are more unified and have more support now than they did in November. And Bamster has been hurt, and pretty badly. He has been exposed as amateur hour.
“unified” is the word republicans use for being the marionette of limbaugh and rove?
keep that “unification” up, I was wondering if the “concervative” party would survive, now I know the answer is no, I wonder what the party to replace them will be and I wonder if the marionettes will join their new team
Awww perris. Thanks. Have some popcorn and lemmingaid? Not as fresh as it was an hour ago, but it’s pretty good.
Good evening Mark! Popcorn? I’m not sure whether we have any more lemmings left to squeeze, but I’ll check.
My heavens. Such a crowd, and most everyone was so neat!
G’Evening, Jane.
Seconded.
You have no idea where you are. We’re not too fond here of the Democrats who cooperated with President Cluster*ck and Vice-President Dead-Eye.
Holy crap! Neocons can write and take at the same time? Who knew?!
How Obama’s lust for getting credit for personally creating the first instance of true bipartisanship in American political history in the first days of his presidency will work against his and the Democratic Party’s, and ultimately the nation’s, best long term interests.
Obama’s management technique is sometimes described as “It’s amazing what YOU can get done if you don’t care who gets the credit.” That strategy is workable in a layered, segmented corporate bureaucracy, for example, where some manager oversees peers or underlings who do the managers bidding, but are allowed to take credit for the work accomplished at their level. However, at his higher level, the manager claims overall success of the project, because he induced underlings to perform in his specific areas.
That technique fails from the office of the presidency because regardless of the contributions of allies and previous foes alike. the president will ALWAYS get the credit. The more the president says I owe it all to my previous opponents, the greater the victory for the president. Republicans will not allow themselves to be brought into the trap of being “seduced” by the “smart, charismatic manager” president. Obama appears totally oblivious to that political dynamic.
Immediately upon taking office, Obama mimicked the impatient suitor who wanted to skip the courtship and to immediately achieve intimacy with his natural opponents. He lusted for a very quickie marriage before the Justice of Bipartisanship. Really now, what kind of girl did Obama think the Republicans are? The haste was unseemly, embarrassing to both parties, and ultimately dis-respectful to Republicans who were given the option of swooning or slipping out the back door.
Obama’s courtship of the Republicans would have had a far more likely chance of success if Obama had FIRST established he didn’t need ANY Republicans. Create the Stimulus bill he EXACTLY wanted and thought was needed and present that to Congress. If the Republicans threatened filibuster, then he should have said “I am sorry you feel that way, and you are doing a GRAVE dis-service to the American people but let America observe the obstruction for themselves.” The initial battle sets the tone and tenor of the relationship for the rest of the presidency. There would have been no more opportune time to leverage his initial political capital against the Republicans than the initial “America desperately needs the Stimulus” start of his administration. If the filibuster worked, Obama could have tweaked the bill, and tried again. How many times could the Republicans DARE to Filibuster the fate of the American economy? The president would have prevailed WITHOUT the help of any Republican. Obama would have countered the cries of being disingenuous in his campaign claims to work for partisanship by saying, there is a time for bipartisanship, and there are grave times for clear and undiluted action. Now is just such a time. Asking the same people who got us into this economic debacle for the way out of it probably was NOT a good way to begin practicing bipartisanship.I will try to reach out to the Republicans in the future, if they allow me.
Then, after he had established the power relationship with Republicans, he could reach-out for the few Republican moderates first, and start to cultivate a four year courtship (with intermediate weddings throughout) of those who were truly trying to work across party lines. He would be seen approaching bipartisanship from a position of strength, when he did not HAVE to reach across the aisle, not as he currently is perceived, as NEEDING Republicans for his programs to move forward. It was a need wholly manufactured and nurtured by an Obamian self-confidence in his powers of rational, empathetic seduction of his opponents. It simply failed spectacularly.
The present and future damage Obama’s Rush To Bipartisanship has caused is considerable.
A) He has alienated a growing portion of his base, who were expecting some measure of pay back after 8 years in the wilderness. At least for the first couple of months – a sense of relief at a job well done, and the ship of state again pointed in the right direction could have made the later bipartisan overtures more palatable. But Obama denied those who brought him to the dance, even the very first dance. Some things a date never forgets. Obama appears to be exhibiting some traits of Don Juan, for whom a personal conquest meant only that it was time for the next conquest to begin. Hell hath no fury like a spurned conquest. Obama WILL learn first hand.
B) Obama has revealed that in his earnestness to seduce, he is willing to offer a handsome first offering. The more intransigent the pursued, the larger the initial entreaty. Henceforth, Obama can expect everyone’s initial price to be inflated, and simply a starting point for other, larger concessions. Whether the Republicans, the Russians, or the Iranians, Obama has revealed that he is a big-time spender on his first date. Obama has thereby limited his options in bargaining with everyone for the next 3+ years. In this character peculiarity, Obama appears to be exhibiting some traits of Don Quixote, believing that a gesture of kindness will modify the nature of the be-kinded. Obama WILL learn that lesson first hand, also, that if you first walk into a neighborhood saloon wearing a tutu, don’t expect that wearing a gorilla suit the next visit will gain you anything but massive guffaws from all present.
C) By Obama insisting that the Republicans “have good ideas” that Obama wants to seek out and incorporate in his own administration, he is paying insincere and undeserved homage to a destructive philosophy which has brought the U.S. to the current precipice on which it balances.He is giving the Republicans a seat at the table of those who believe government is a force for progress and social justice. That seat is undeserved. At the same time Obama ignores True Knights of the Good Government Round Table like Dennis Kucinich, Russ Feingold, and Bernie Sanders. They are out in the cold of the Obama Castle. Some King Arthur this King Obama be.
Bipartisanship has been dead for almost a generation, at least. I just wanna know when Obama and Harry are going to stop playing tonsil hockey with the corpse.
nice try sport. save it for the filibusters to come.
better yet.
select all
cut
control/alt/delete
go out and contemplate the moon while you can still see it.
Caution: do mind the skunk. He’s in a bad mood.
TheSkunkKnows
Well, thanks for adding a nice partisan book end of three posts to mine.