Glenn Greenwald has been rightfully indignant about the Obama DoJ’s use of Bush’s "state secrets" argument to cover up charges of rendition and torture. The NY Times this morning says "It was as if last month’s inauguration had never occurred…..Voters have good reason to feel betrayed if they took Mr. Obama seriously on the campaign trail when he criticized the Bush administration’s tactic of stretching the state-secrets privilege to get lawsuits tossed out of court."
But Bush’s "state secrets" claims aren’t the only White House holdovers. Glenn also singles out Marc Ambinder of The Atlantic today for being a DC stenographer whose idea of "reporting" is calling up administration sources, granting them anonymity without cause, and then writing it up mindlessly without critique or context:
What possible justification is there for granting administration officials anonymity to explain why they are embracing a Bush-era weapon that they have long criticized? And why does an administration swearing great levels of transparency and accountability — and vowing to use secrecy only when absolutely necessary — need to hide behind a wall of anonymity in order to explain why they did what they did here? Why can’t they attach their names to this explanation, so that they can be questioned about it and held accountable?
Why would he do that? Well, possibly because that’s the only way they’ll talk to him — or anyone else. New York Times reporter David Cay Johnston has also written about this "business as usual" quality of White House press relations:
My questions to LaBolt and Singh prompted a return phone call the next day from Nick Shapiro, who spelled his name, but had to be prodded several times to give his job title: assistant press secretary.
During our brief conversation, Shapiro, like LaBolt (whose name Shapiro did not recognize), started one sentence with “off the record.” Told that the journalist grants the privilege, and that none would be granted here, Shapiro expressed surprise. His surprise was double-barreled, at both the idea that the reporter issues any privilege and that any reporter would decline to talk “off the record.”
The reportorial practice of letting government officials speak without taking responsibility for their words has been an issue with the public and is being questioned now by some journalists, as shown by this article from Slate’s Jack Shafer.
Questions about whether Shapiro knows the difference between off-the-record, background, deep background, and on-the-record did not get asked, because Shapiro made it clear he had no interest in answering anything about how the Obama press secretary’s office is operating and what its tone will be. He said questions should be submitted in writing by e-mail to nshapiro@who.eop.gov. I sent Shapiro an e-mail outlining the contours of what would be covered in an interview, but have not received a response as of this writing, the following day.
Johnston is a Pulitzer Prize winning reporter whose book, Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense [and Stick You with the Bill] is indispensible for anyone wanting to understand how the taxation and legislative system has been gamed to favor the rich. He’s a superb journalist and sometimes it’s hard to believe he’s still employed at the Times. (note: Johnston has left the NYT.) An administration interested in transparency should be ecstatic about working with him.
But what is going on right now in the world of DC journalism finds its most naked expression in Ambinder’s piece, though I’ve seen other glaring examples of late — journalists are scrambling for who gets "access" to the White House. So there’s no end to the bullshit they’ll write to ingratiate themselves to potential sources, or the inconvenient facts they’ll edit out in order to be the new Bob Woodward. (Though Ambinder does deserve some praise on this front — he wrote what everyone else knows but isn’t saying about White House plans: "encouragement of moderate Democrats," "entitlement reform" and "standing up to Speaker Pelosi.")
You can see it in the horror with which the traditional media is responding to Sam Stein getting called on at the President’s press conference — there are rules, there is a pecking order, and This Is Not How It’s Done. While it’s great Sam got recognized — he’s a really good journalist and he asked a critical question — it’s not much more than "window dressing" if the day-to-day interaction with the press stays the same as it did during the Bush years. And with Rahm managing the relations between the White House and the media these days, it looks like that’s exactly what’s happening.
Update: And the stenography continues: Ambinder calls back his "administration sources" so they can respond to Glenn but neither names him nor links to him. "They’re sensitive to the politics of the case, but they’re not motivated by what civil libertarians may write on their blogs." The administration people don’t want you at the slumber party Glenn Greenwald, and they don’t give anonymous quotes to you, Glenn Greenwald, and they certainly aren’t going to RESPOND to you, Glenn Greenwald, well okay they DID and Ambinder just wrote PARAGRAPHS about it but they are going to just turn their backs and pretend you’re not there. Feh.
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The bosses of Chuck Todd and Chris Cillizza knew enough about the Obama White House press operation to promote these geniuses to White House Correspondent.
Enough said.
MY BI WEEKLY STATEMENT
Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose
Well I’m thankful nothing changed here I might have been surprised about the new openess:(
jo6pac
Everything is on schedule, please move along.
Thanks Jane
ohboy
sophmoric
Thanks Jane.
digg is open.
Aloha Ya’ll! I’m typing from a Queen’s Medical Center computer as my better half awaits her angioplasty! ;-)
yah,lemons on sale 2 for a dollar,and tomatoes 2.50 a lb
thanks for the email to nick shapiro. someone’s gonna hear from me.
I have no patience for liars, i don’t care if the name is bush or obama.
oh best of good luck{{{{C and spouse}}}}
hey. they’re elected officials. they don’t haver to respond to
accomplished constitutional lawyerscivil libertarian bloggers. as for Stein being called on, I was (and still am really — although i shouldn’t be, i guess) astounded at the apoplexy with which so many media types have reacted.Mahalo, sadly! *g*
WE’RE ALL THERE WITH HER BROTHER CT…
To ignore Greenwald is to ignore the truth.
The era of journalism as stenography must end.
((((CT & spouse)))) I hope all goes well.
Who’s the queen? Liliuokalani?
I know the feeling.
But this is purely coincidence.
((CT and Mrs. CT)) We’re with you!
A this last presser, TradMed types certainly proved their worthiness to be called on: AP’s Jennifer Loven’s idiotic question to Obama about whether he’s hurting the economy by telling the truth about it (stay in the bubble, sir!!) and WaPo’s Michael Fletcher’s hardhitting inquiry about POTUS’s opinion about A-Rod’s steroid use.
I mean, you’re really gonna burn a question on baseball? It’s not like this POTUS “owned” the team A-Rod used to play for, like the last guy. There’s no hook — Obama’s just a fan. Who cares what he thinks about baseball?
Not to lean over backwards, but I find myself wondering if this is some of what I’ve feared for awhile – things like “off the record”, and astonishment at being told it won’t be off the record.
When I heard (during the Libby trial, thank you Jane and Christy and EW) Tim Russert say that “off the record” was his default mode, and heard all the fulsome praise of Russert (by other journos) as the pinnacle/model of journalism, I thought, well, it’s going to be the default assumption pretty soon now, if it isn’t already.
That guess is supported by the apparent fact that these folks Johnston spoke with appear to be very young. I betcha they grew up with/learned in J school, or wherever, that the way journalism has been practiced for the last 8-15 yrs is the norm. It shouldn’t be, but if it’s all you’ve ever known, this attitude is not too surprising.
That said, I agree with a commenter at CJR, who had been both reporter and PR flack – any press person who refuses to give or spell their name and title should be fired. Now. ASAP. Hire somebody who knows what the F*** they’re doing.
If this continues, it will only hurt Obama and his priorities.
Btw, I thought it was interesting that one person in the office didn’t recognize the name of another. This tells me they are making new hires and are still in chaos.
The blogosphere that was a major force in getting the new war criminal (obama) elected needs to now take up blog arms and start ripping him to shreds until he responds by actually doing what he fucking promised to do BEFORE he got elected.
Helen Thomas questions for Obama the War Criminal: Is America an empire and are you its emperor? Are you able to violate federal law if YOU deem it necessary to…do stuff? Where’s accountability if government officials get away with murder (literally) and torture (literally)? You being a lawyer and all, is it not true that conspiring to cover up a crime committed by another makes you an accessory and equally in danger of prosecution?
Tweety wanted the A-Rod Q asked. *g*
These cute one-word answers are infuriating, especially since they obscure more than they reveal, like timing, intent, procedure, methods — discouraging natural allies and leaving us confused:
AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Hamsher and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
ALERT!! When I first accessed this post I got a pop-up that described itself as a survey from “Neilsen” but since I don’t open ANY pop-ups I jest trashed it…now I’m wonderin’…has anyone else out there been contacted by a message representing “Neilsen” for survey?
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…AND YOU THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY??!!
Obama, just 21 days in and already making sure he is a 1-termer.
At this rate (coddling criminals on Wall Street and in the banking industry on MY dime, coddling criminals of the Bush Admin), I will be voting AGAINST Obama in the next election, if he makes it that far. The way he’s trying to wreck the economy, the mid-terms could turn the Congress around and, depending on how much MORE incompetent he is with the economy (and MY money), he may get himself impeached by the crew that has no compunction at all about impeaching “Democraps”.
When I heard (during the Libby trial, thank you Jane and Christy and EW) Tim Russert say that “off the record” was his default mode, and heard all the fulsome praise of Russert (by other journos) as the pinnacle/model of journalism, I thought, well, it’s going to be the default assumption pretty soon now, if it isn’t already.
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please dont remind me
Teddy – yeah, I was shocked (not) by the stupidity of some of the questions. I’m afraid that Repubs in Congress are not the only ones who don’t get the depth of the catastrophe thundering down on the country.
They still have jobs, I guess, and maybe everyone they know still has a job, so they’re just as much in the bubble as GWB ever was.
Frankly, I trace it all back to when reporters started calling themselves “journalists.” (snark, but only a little. chicken or egg question)
Well, there you go.
Yes, because, you know, it is just SO fucking hard to fire off a quick exec order stating that Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell is no more and that gays MAY serve.
What is happening, as with his flip-flop on Iraq (he is holding off on the withdrawal for now) is that he is obeying his masters in the Pentagon.
you are being harsh in my estimation
please don’t remind me
Laughing sadly with you. It was a jaw-dropping moment.
But didn’t it explain a lot?
Wow, it sure didn’t take long for the Obama administration to treat us with the same disdain the Bushies did. At least we’re not sycophants…
CT
it explained that the media was completely broken
He DESERVES harsh. He is now pro-torture/pro-rendition. He is spending MY money (and yours) as fast as he can to prop up CEOs and other riffraff on Wall Street and in the banking industry. He is PROMISING to visit “entitlement reform” (meaning killing social security and medicare, as mentioned by criminal Geithner).
I’m not being harsh enough.
Prehaps this is a backhanded compliment to Glennzilla?
He’s pretty plain spoken about how politicians have put themselves in a class above the common folk. He would call bull on any move that says otherwise and make it hard to maintain the bluff that “no one is above the law”.
IOW, Greenwald is the acid test of integrity on rule of law issues.
lets see how it plays out a little…the public is gonna push back strongly imo
Citizen Raven:
Yo Brother Raven…what’s shakin’?
It’s my opinion that the Neilsen survey is very useful in providing information to advertisers about FDL’s readership. It’s real. You’d do the blog a great favor to respond to it if it re-appears sometime when you’ve got the time to fill it out. Knowing about FDL’s readers enables advertisers to know who they are reaching when they buy space here.
I’ve completed it; it’s not intrusive. It’s about your purchasing and shopping habits, as I recall. Nothing terribly personal.
Being able to tell advertisers who, in the aggregate, reads the blog helps advertisers decide whether to support FDL.
(Not an official answer, just my suggestions and thoughts)
Thanx Teddy…I’m still reluctant ta open pop-ups but maybe I’ll respond ta this one
Oooh, solvency at Citi & BOA comes up.
CTut, you and your wife have a very large crowd of us with both of you in our thoughts and hearts.
David
Horendous questions. When Loven started off with that I said “Hooooly shit……” I would also add the Fox guy’s question. He asked Obama to comment on a statement Biden made about a topic the questioner didn’t even know.
The A-Rod question was nuts. Everybody knows he just wants to get as muscular as his girlfriend without putting in all the work.
Citi sez Tier 1 capital ratio is 12%, very strong.
BOA sez 10.6%, and is insulted at the Q.
I’m wishing you and your better half a turn to better luck than the past year has sent your way. Hope all goes well for Mrs. Tuttle. Hang in there, C.
Good luck CT and Mrs. CT!!!!
Thoughts and prayers to you both.
Maintaining a low profile. I have asked you a couple of times over the past few days “how’s it hangin”?
Askes if Citi & BOA will be in demise in the coming months! No, and insulted agains.
The problem is his instincts are to steal first and only back off (maybe) when the little people protest vociferously.
The problem is he picked as economic advisors the very people that are directly responsible for the entire mess. Like they are now going to do a mea culpa, admit their economic theories were total shit, and that Glass-Stegall needs to be reactivated in full.
He keeps choosing people who were lobbyists or insiders of corrupt insurance companies or banks or Wall Street firms. He keeps choosing people who refuse to pay their taxes (because taxes are for the little people).
He keeps Gates on to continue Bush’s world domination plans in spite of there being NO MONEY or moral argument to support it.
He stays silent and absolutely and resolutely pro-Israel-no-matter-what even after they commit clear war crimes against the Palestinians in Gaza.
Why leave him any more time to “prove” himself after seeing ALL of his initial instincts be so very very wrong?
I’ve written many emails to Jane and others at this site complaining about the morning show of Andrea (Greenspan) Mitchell,on MSNBC and her frequent appearances on Matthews and other talk formats to talk about the financial meltdown, and the stimulus package of Obama…
I listen to her ask Republican talking point questions of her guests again and again, without anyone questioning the huge conflict of interest this woman represents…as her husband Alan Greenspan was named FIRST on the list of those responsible for the meltdown in the US financial system!
Doesn’t this bother anyone else here or in the blogosphere…this is one of the women who is influencing American thinking on this subject and she shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near it!
Best wishes to Mrs CT!
Citizen Praedor:
I’m afraid yer analysis is too good…maybe the increase in traffic from both sides has caught the Big O off gaurd and walkin down the “middle” is jest gunna get ‘im hit by trucks goin both ways.
New post
Questioner asking about solvency and bankruptcy at Citi and BOA was Keith Ellison.
Jane:
Totally agree. I mentioned him last night in a comment on D-Day’s diary at Calitics
Hopefully maybe sometime he could do another book salon
Madoff’s scheme and the Federal Reserve scheme are pretty much the same…its just that they haven’t and can’t admit it…there was no real money…only interest being made on nothing but thin air fiat money. Smoke and mirrors…lies and deception…When that becomes apparent to the people…look out..
Mrs. Greenspan is basically an idiot and probably shouldn’t be reporting on this subject, because she’ll just say what she is told to say…
(((CTs)))!!!
Stumpf from WF sez mark-to-market is bad because assets have “intrinsic” value. (=it’s worth what we say it’s worth)
Obama’s got about a year to show improvement in the economy and some success in international relations. If he doesn’t, Dems will lose seats in both houses and he will be on his way to a footnote in history. If he DOES succeed in making progress, he’ll be well on his way to a second term. Nothing else really matters much.
Isn’t it amazing how Obama has been president a whole 3 weeks and already the people who pushed him on the rest of us are criticizing him every chance they get?
Sure, the mainstream media sucks, but that’s nothing new. What is new is that people who were Obama’s biggest fans are now his biggest critics. Please, make up your minds. Or vote for real progressives next time.
I’m fine with the President having state secrets. I’m a lot more worried about continuing wars and other pure crap like supporting everything Israel does.
Norske, I responded once, came to the age question (I’m 75)and was immediately told that I did not fit the interests of the survey.
Guess it’s off to the Solient Green Last Picture Show for me before long, huh. s/
I don’t know about that. If he does continue to give all of Bush’s “state secrets” claims his full imperial approval, if he does prevent (or try to prevent) Congress from investigating Bush Admin criminals for their roles in torture, lying to get us into Iraq, spying on Americans sans warrant, and politicizing the DOJ then he is truly no better than Cheney.
If he continues down the path he has already started hacking into the bush, then he is toast. A 1-termer.
At least here, many of us who are criticizing Obama now were criticizing him all along, including during the campaign. Among frequent commenters (just an observation, no data), there were few Obama supporters in the primary. And for the precise reasons that have shown up in his behavior after the election and during the last 3 weeks.
As for voting for a progressive, as soon as there’s a prez candidate who is one, we will.
Let’s see EVERYTHING Obama does provokes bitching, whining and threats about one term from someone. If I were him I’d do what I thought was right and screw everyone else.
I’ve tried to take surveys before, and if I said one thing that was out of their bounds, I didn’t get to finish it. Say, my kids were too old, I didn’t make enough money, didn’t buy enough from the internet, etc. I would like to think it’s just their demographics, not Soylent Green!
the great economist suddenly relies on “observation”. Ha!
Indeed. I was all set to vote Nader until Palin became McInsane’s running mate. Then I had to swallow my vomit and vote for “that one.”
Mr talk nice but be hollow inside. Mr mushy I-stand-for-everything-so-I-stand-for-nothing. Mr Bipartisanship at ALL costs.
Kucinich was the right man for the job. Looks like, for real, 3rd party for me in 2012. I wont make the mistake of letting the GOP force me vote for the lessor of 2 evils ever again.
That’s an actual Neilsen invitation put in place by Jane to help understand the audience here. Not phony.
Just FYI.
Really? So explain why Ruben, Summers, and Geithner-the-tax-cheat (the others are too, they just haven’t been caught yet), the very people that were behind the entire current economic debacle with Wall Street and the banks is GRRRRREAT!
Explain how having Geithner say “entitlement reform” for social security and medicare will be addressed (to cover the costs of giving YOUR money, MY money to bankers) is GRRRREAT!
Explain how defending the global ’state secrets’ ruling of Bush/Cheney in order to cover up a very real crime against humanity (rendition and torture INVOLVING RAZOR BLADES AND GENITALS) is GRRRRREAT!
What amongst the few of many examples above are indicative of a great Obama term?
As I recall, I was saying all the candidates sucked, but I wanted Obama to be the sucky candidate that would win.
It’s what you get when your advisers are all from the ‘establishment’ side of the party, and aren’t interested in hearing from anyone outside their own group, because they ‘know best’ how to run things, even though they’ve demonstrated no such thing in their careers, ever.
F*ck Rahm and the ‘centrist’ Ds and the Blue Dogs, and all the turkeys they’ve given us (like Geithner and Summers).
I didn’t vote for their guy because I wanted more of the same crap, I voted for him because the alternative was far more and worse crap.
I want better Ds, and mroe of them, and if that requires tossing people out before the ink is dry on their appointment papers, so be it.
Carson (D-Indiana) asks what they’ve done to change their compensation scheme to avoid the moral hazard of high-risk high-comp?
Good Q, except it begs the issue that whatever schemes they instate now to avoid making the last mistake, they’ll have “models” proving their behavior is not risky in the next cycle.
Here’s one Washington columnist who’s having no part of the typical beltway suck up to sources BS. He’s been writing some real hard hitting, commonsense pieces on the financial crisis. I love reading his columns. In fact, he’s the only columnist at the Washington Post whose worth his salary.
You think this snippet is good? It’s gets even better when he smacks all the Wall Street elites and their media enablers right square in the face with of all things – the truth. It’s a great column.
Unlike the other Post columnists, this guy deserves a regular readership!
Oh yes…how could I leave out Rahm from the Hall of Shame that is the Obama Admin?
I DO so hope that there will now be a full-on war between the House and the Bush, err, I mean Obama Admin. I want Pelosi to shut out Rahm entirely and fuck over his “Dems in name only” GOPers in the House. She needs to undo everything that Rahm tries to get through.
I am beginning to become sympathetic to the Limbowel view: hope for Obama to fail because what he is offering so far NEEDS to fail. NO “entitlement reform” unless it means eliminating the income cap on SSI taxes. NO “entitlement reform” unless it means using Medicare as the model for universal healthcare WITHOUT for-profit insurance companies involved. NO bank bailout. At all. NO “stimulus” that is simply 35% GOP wet dream tax cuts. On THAT one Obama speaks with forked tongue: the policies of the past have failed (so I am going to continue them in the name of right-of-center “bipartisanship” worship). No more rendition. Period. Unless Obama is going to announce open season on American citizens for foreign agents: if it is OK for us to snatch people off the streets of Berlin and send them to be tortured (wink wink) in Egypt, then it is OK for Russia to snatch people off the streets of LA or NY and haul their asses to Chechnya for ‘questioning’.
Grayson’s kicking their butts.
Citizen Raven:
Ya know, I think yer a voice of reason…I think, however, that The Big O thought he could walk down the “middle” by playin’ off the dirty rotten hippies and he found out that the “middle was a lot further ta the left than he thought…and now that he’s findin’ out jest who the Clintonistas are, he’s like the guy who woke up on the mornin’ of the big battle and found out that everyone in the foxhole with ‘im is wearin’ an SS uniform.
Ding.
I was so ticked when Fletcher asked the baseball question. This is what I posted on the article he and Kornblut did about the press conference. It was full of snark.
I don’t have to explain shit. Just back from the grocery store and I didn’t miss a beat, Hannity sounds just like it does here.
Check out this Media Matters piece about the recent Rachel Sklar piece on Tapper. Can you believe that people would actually think it’s a good thing to be compared to David Gregory. Gawd!
If you do a search of FDL, I believe you would find many, many similar comments about Andrea Mitchell. You want to look under “Mrs. Greenspa,” as she’s often referred to here.
If you think the topic has been ignored here, you aren’t reading often enough.
He NEVER was a progressive, fucking never. So he is who he said he was. Now, if you don’t like that I get it but the idea that he somehow deceived someone doesn’t cut it IMHO.
Gee, gotta go. I just got a CD of a live performance of the Allman’s on Boston Common in August 71. I was at the show and this is a perfect time to listen to “Whippin’ Post”. Oh yea, “You Don’t Love Me” is on here too!
Pearlstein is on msnbc a lot these days and he rocks. I believe it is he who said the government will never make wall street happy because it’s never enough. Too bad!
Citizen Raven:
Yeah man, thanks for checkin back…and no, you don’t ever hafta ’splain yerself but most of us are tickled when ya do. I do think that our man in the White House is gettin a better look now at just where his own troops are and who the hell the enemy is here…I ain’t bailin’ out on ‘im but, shit, I knew those fuckin’ Clintonistas would be trouble!
Ah man, rub it in! I love allman bros. too young to go to the concerts at the time. so just rock on you DFH.
But stick around wagonjak!
Mrs. Greenspan is a simple little old lady who should just host tea parties, but they put her in front of a camera instead. I don’t know why. She can barely utter her questions let alone make sense of the stories.
Yes, how could anyone think that the slogan “Change we can believe in” could mean anything other than more of the same. Sheesh.
Mrs Greenspan gets into the functions as an insider with her hubby.
Citizen Raven:
Whoo there Brother, actually I give Obama more credit’n you do for his core values and politics…I jest think he suffered what Clinton did, he thought he was smarter’n everyone else around him, includin his base and now he’s findin’ out that there are a whole lot a folks out here that don’t need the new math ta figure out they’ve been screwed.
Humility will come much quicker for Obama than it did for Clinton…I still got my field equipment packed tight for ‘im…but I don’t know if I got enough field dressings and morphine Syrettes for the next fight.
He’s got more ta fear from some of his “friends” than he does from the stupids in the Senate and on the network news.
I only “discovered him” about 2 weeks ago. I’m glad to hear that he’s on MSNBC because he’s wonderful. He appeared on CNN today to talk about his piece in the Post but the CNN host evidently only read as far as the name calling and missed the larger point in the piece. Oh well, at least they invited him to come on which is at least a step in the right direction.
pack the atropine
Wrong, Raven. Obama gave well documented reason for any and all to believe he wouldn’t pull shit like he did in this court case regarding State Secrets. If you don’t think we aren’t allowed to expect better of him than what we are getting, than you haven’t read his promises about policy changes and such in his own words.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/g…../10/obama/
Standing up to Speaker Pelosi.
That’s Rahmspeak for, “I want her job,” and I’ll get in bed with the GOP, screw Congress and trash Obama’s legislative program to get it. Then I’ll scream that Congress don’t get no respect.
Encouraging moderate Democrats.
Screw the Main Street Americans who helped get Obama elected and expected he would lead with their interests in mind.
Entitlement reform.
Screw Democrats and everyone who worked an entire career expecting that the federal government keeps its word. We are all American Indians now, with five hundred years of catching up to do.
Meet the “Civil libertarians”, the new Communists.
Ambinder’s stenography suggests that the White House isn’t fighting obstructionist Republicans. It’s still fighting everyone living outside the Beltway. Where do these people come from? I thought the gateway to hell was barred, with that cute blind nun staring into the East River guarding it.
do what you want, I do