It’s on, tell us what you think.
Transcript of his opening remarks (as prepared for delivery)
Good evening. Before I take your questions tonight, I’d like to speak briefly about the state of our economy and why I believe we need to put this recovery plan in motion as soon as possible.
I took a trip to Elkhart, Indiana today. Elkhart is a place that has lost jobs faster than anywhere else in America. In one year, the unemployment rate went from 4.7% to 15.3%. Companies that have sustained this community for years are shedding jobs at an alarming speed, and the people who’ve lost them have no idea what to do or who to turn to. They can’t pay their bills and they’ve stopped spending money. And because they’ve stopped spending money, more businesses have been forced to lay off more workers. Local TV stations have started running public service announcements that tell people where to find food banks, even as the food banks don’t have enough to meet the demand.
As we speak, similar scenes are playing out in cities and towns across the country. Last Monday, more than 1,000 men and women stood in line for 35 firefighter jobs in Miami. Last month, our economy lost 598,000 jobs, which is nearly the equivalent of losing every single job in the state of Maine. And if there’s anyone out there who still doesn’t believe this constitutes a full-blown crisis, I suggest speaking to one of the millions of Americans whose lives have been turned upside down because they don’t know where their next paycheck is coming from.
That is why the single most important part of this Economic Recovery and Reinvestment Plan is the fact that it will save or create up to 4 million jobs. Because that is what America needs most right now.
It is absolutely true that we cannot depend on government alone to create jobs or economic growth. That is and must be the role of the private sector. But at this particular moment, with the private sector so weakened by this recession, the federal government is the only entity left with the resources to jolt our economy back to life. It is only government that can break the vicious cycle where lost jobs lead to people spending less money which leads to even more layoffs. And breaking that cycle is exactly what the plan that’s moving through Congress is designed to do.
When passed, this plan will ensure that Americans who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own can receive greater unemployment benefits and continue their health care coverage. We will also provide a $2,500 tax credit to folks who are struggling to pay the cost of their college tuition, and $1000 worth of badly-needed tax relief to working and middle-class families. These steps will put more money in the pockets of those Americans who are most likely to spend it, and that will help break the cycle and get our economy moving.
But as we learned very clearly and conclusively over the last eight years, tax cuts alone cannot solve all our economic problems – especially tax cuts that are targeted to the wealthiest few Americans. We have tried that strategy time and time again, and it has only helped lead us to the crisis we face right now.
That is why we have come together around a plan that combines hundreds of billions in tax cuts for the middle-class with direct investments in areas like health care, energy, education, and infrastructure – investments that will save jobs, create new jobs and new businesses, and help our economy grow again – now and in the future.
More than 90% of the jobs created by this plan will be in the private sector. These will not be make-work jobs, but jobs doing the work that America desperately needs done. Jobs rebuilding our crumbling roads and bridges, and repairing our dangerously deficient dams and levees so that we don’t face another Katrina. They will be jobs building the wind turbines and solar panels and fuel-efficient cars that will lower our dependence on foreign oil, and modernizing a costly health care system that will save us billions of dollars and countless lives. They’ll be jobs creating 21st century classrooms, libraries, and labs for millions of children across America. And they’ll be the jobs of firefighters, teachers, and police officers that would otherwise be eliminated if we do not provide states with some relief.
After many weeks of debate and discussion, the plan that ultimately emerges from Congress must be big enough and bold enough to meet the size of the economic challenge we face right now. It is a plan that is already supported by businesses representing almost every industry in America; by both the Chamber of Commerce and the AFL-CIO. It contains input, ideas, and compromises from both Democrats and Republicans. It also contains an unprecedented level of transparency and accountability, so that every American will be able to go online and see where and how we’re spending every dime. What it does not contain, however, is a single pet project, and it has been stripped of the projects members of both parties found most objectionable.
Despite all of this, the plan is not perfect. No plan is. I can’t tell you for sure that everything in this plan will work exactly as we hope, but I can tell you with complete confidence that a failure to act will only deepen this crisis as well as the pain felt by millions of Americans. My administration inherited a deficit of over $1 trillion, but because we also inherited the most profound economic emergency since the Great Depression, doing too little or nothing at all will result in an even greater deficit of jobs, incomes; and confidence. That is a deficit that could turn a crisis into a catastrophe. And I refuse to let that happen. As long as I hold this office, I will do whatever it takes to put this country back to work.
I want to thank the members of Congress who’ve worked so hard to move this plan forward, but I also want to urge all members of Congress to act without delay in the coming week to resolve their differences and pass this plan.
We find ourselves in a rare moment where the citizens of our country and all countries are watching and waiting for us to lead. It is a responsibility that this generation did not ask for, but one that we must accept for the sake of our future and our children’s. The strongest democracies flourish from frequent and lively debate, but they endure when people of every background and belief find a way to set aside smaller differences in service of a greater purpose. That is the test facing the United States of America in this winter of our hardship, and it is our duty as leaders and citizens to stay true to that purpose in the weeks and months ahead. After a day of speaking with and listening to the fundamentally decent men and women who call this nation home, I have full faith and confidence that we can. And with that, I’ll take your questions.



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BREAKING THE CYCLE …UHM yes we can
Thanks for the thread. Watching now… He’s serious, concentrated, and full of facts. SO different from W…
a smart prez….along time comming
Thanks Ian… off for some Digging..
no shiiiite…..G
Brains is back!
people have no money to spend
I am so glad to hear full sentences and paragraphs and ideas….Truly a new world.
“Input from… Republicans…” Well. That means that in the House none of them will vote for it, and in the Senate only 3 will. Thanks, Republicans! We wouldn’t be here without you!
i can hardly believe it,after 8 years of CHIMPIFICATION
Digg is now Open so please join in and Digg IT! Remember it does help the Lake!
it is stunning – and for all of our disagreements over specific issues, etc, what a relief!
He’s great! We have a leader.
W nevah EVAH had a freaking Clue! Are you kidding me or what?? There is no comparison!
The Speech is ok lets see if the MSM hacks let the GOP get away with more lies like they have been doing.
Jennifer someone from AP first question… I was hoping for Helen Thomas…
AMEN
I’m still getting used to saying “President Obama.” That’s why it’s SOOOOO VERRY DIFFERENT!!!
That was one stupid first question. Do you think talking down the economy is wrong?
What planet did she come from?
Something to amuse you: Texas Democrats are after the Senator…she came home to play politics…
“Dear fellow Democrat,
I wanted to share with you this latest press release from your Texas Democratic Party.
In these tough economic times, most Texans are working harder than ever, hoping to hold onto our jobs and make ends meet for our families. We’d like to think our United States Senators are also hard at work, getting the economy back on track. However, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison can’t sympathize because she’s been too busy with her political campaign to show up for work and vote on legislation that would help Texas families.
Call Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison’s office and demand that she fulfill the responsibilities entrusted to her by Texans and get to work on solving our state’s problems rather than skipping out to campaign on our tax dollars.
Senator Hutchison’s Washington, DC Office: (202) 224-5922
HUTCHISON SKIPS WORK TO PLAY POLITICS
Only Senator AWOL for Friday Evening Stimulus Package Votes
(Austin, TX) – While the United States Senate took crucial votes on the stimulus package Friday evening, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison was the only Senator who went AWOL, choosing to seek support for her campaign at a Texas speaking engagement instead of fulfilling her responsibilities to work for Texans in the Senate. The six votes Sen. Hutchison missed dealt with amendments to the package, reached as a bipartisan compromise by a group of Senators.
“At a time when millions of people have lost their jobs, Kay Bailey Hutchison was the only Senator who didn’t bother to show up to work last Friday night,” observed Texas Democratic Party Chairman Boyd Richie. “With our country facing its greatest economic challenge in sixty years, Senator Hutchison skipped six important votes for a political event, showing she is no better than Governor Perry, who is playing the same kind of politics by threatening to reject funds to help Texans out of this recession.”
Senator Hutchison’s absence was impossible to overlook, as only two other Senators missed the critical votes: Sen. Ted Kennedy, who was being treated for a brain tumor, and Sen. Judd Gregg, who is not participating in Senate votes due to his nomination as Secretary of Commerce.
“Last November, the voters said it was time to change things and get to work to solve problems made by politicians who put their own careers ahead of what’s best for our state and our country,” Richie continued. “Apparently, Senator Hutchison and Governor Perry would rather keep playing the same old tired politics than work for us, and if they don’t want to work, we can hire somebody else to get the job done.” “
He impresses me more every day.
People have been tricked into thinking they’ve participated in the growth of the economy over the last 30 years, when really it was just the value of their houses been blown up by air.
The piggy bank is gone now, and all we’re left with is our sucky jobs.
There is no money.
AP figurzzzzz
Yeah! Obama mentioned FDR! Extra Points!
Oh, mama! He’s taking it to the wingnuts!
I wish he would highlight that fact that the Repukes are Obstructing just to Obstruct! They have no intention of helping main street only Wall Street.
That’s what I was thinking… “are you hurting your credibility?” by speaking the truth. Give me a break. Did they once ask that of Dubya, after all that he did.
yup
Nice phrase — “gaping hole in the economy.” Folks can understand what a gaping hole is.
Lost planet of Repukes??
So she agrees with the Stimulus but politically can’t vote for it. I wonder who else on the GOP side isn’t voting?
Obama: There is a $2 trillion hole in the economy.
Me: Then why are you proposing an $800 billion patch for it?
AP
Geez, does he think he’s a college prof who has 45 minutes to A a Q? Would guess that the bulk of the audience turned off a long time ago.
He almost said that he didn’t get the $800 figure out of his ass! Changed it to hat.
Hanging around Rahm too much.
There ya go, let the bitching begin.
So do you think Jennifer-What’s-Her-Name from AP is happy with a fact-filled response? Nah… She’s not going to listen to all that… She’s gonna wonder if Joe Liarman was given any prid quo pro for voting for the bill… That’s how AP rolls…
a very good speech, despite the shameful wall of political obstruction and sabotage put up by the rethugs and the shameful capitulation of the Blue Dog DINO’s. So what will happen for the next fight… on banking crisis resolution or automotive resolution or health care reform? will the president have the political will to push the necessary changes through?
“… That’s part of what the election was all about.”
Oh, an Iran question…
Nice tight Coherent answers no meandering if you give a lecture stay focused or are you trying to run out the clock?
BO wants, needs and is addressing his critics through these questions.
Calls Iran an extraordinary country and Iranians an extraordinary people!
That’ll go over well in cretin quarters.
Q on Iran engagement. I heard today that with the Kyber Pass bridge gone & Putin holding U.S. up for ramsom, U.S. might have to go to Iran to ask permission to transport into Afghanistan. Bet he doesn’t refer to that tonight.
Maybe he’s just hoping that the fucking media will do its job… He’s young and idealistic, I know…
I would suggest people read the speech and do some content analysis. Obama’s a good speaker. What is he actually saying?
I nearly got whiplash with that question…
It’s nice to hear a complete sentence with stopping after every word.
Question on Iran.
Mentions their pursuit of a nuclear weapon. And his evidence for that is? And this can be reconciled with the NIE on Iran that said they gave up a weapons program in 2003 how?
Talks about direct diplomacy.
it is,he is correct
Yea, maybe you can quantify the speech and presser. jesus
Evening Raven, how goes it?
How refreshing that it would appear that his first response may not be to bounce more rubble….
it is like listening to my professorial father,i cant get enuf
I thought the point was to go over the heads of the pols and speak directly to the people. If that were the goal, then some facts are great, but a long lecture not so much.
Hey Ian,
I think what I heard was if we don’t get on board, more jobs will be lost, at a faster pace, and government has a role in providing “demand” for services etc. and therefore jobs. His visit is to bring the cameras into reality and outside the DC bubble. IMHO.
Iran getting Nukes Bad America giving Saudi Arabia Nuclear Reactors still no mention in the MSM, Saudi Arabia gave us Ossama.
http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/1302
Israel really has no greater Fake Friend.
swell, thanks U?
Oh, fracking bipartisanship… If I NEVER hear that fucking word again it will be too fucking soon.
We are here to comment and chat about the speech and presser. Aren’t you?
Let’s see how he explains his bipartisanship. Sez he didn’t underestimate the problem.
Maybe he’s trying to talk to the smart people… Like thee and me…
Too soft, no emotion. He needs to be tougher.
Mr. President, say these words: “Republicans need to get on board and stop being obstructionist. It’s time for them to quit playing the partisan game.”
Instead of “this is not some number that was pulled out of a hat,” make it “This is not some number I pulled out my ass, like George Bush and his rat-fu**er party.”
Bi-partinsanship my ass. That time is past – 30 years ago.
Don’t count on all three of those GOPs in your Cabinet, Barack. Need to get Judd “Abramoff Taint” Gregg confirmed first.
I think it’s french for bs.
a one way street with the pukes
GOPers on business channels think you can talk up the economy by being constantly happy which short term you can. But as people catch on you lose Cred now nobody trusts the Business media to report bad news until after its to late.
Doing great good to see ya here for BO’s first presser.. It is sure refreshing to see someone with as brain up there actually answering questions…
Yea, and my comment is that I don’t think a “content analysis” means diddly. How ya like me now?
707
At this point I think it’s French for “shoot yourself in the fucking foot.”
What’s your concern, Ian?
Doesn’t see much point trying to deal with those who aren’t sincere about trying to fix the problem.
Concerned about the “pork” and “wasteful government spending” language from those who presided over the doubling of the national debt!
Obama – Quit imitating Harry Reid and start playing rough and dirty!! You are way too calm.
Ohh, calling bs on the piggy calls.
“if they’re sincere about it…”
smack! revisionist history. pork accusations from people who tripled the deficit. pow!
We can’t send supplies through Iran so Putin will get whatever he wants.
Fuck the pukes. They gave us what we currently have. They need to STFU. I don’t want even one of their braindead ideas included in any legistlation.
I luv ya Raven, you know that already.
Heh. He’s saying “they” without using the Repig word… Sweet…
I like your name past fed up.
I think he’s trying for “civil”. i dunno.
Me too. I hope Ian doesn’t mind that his thread turned into a valentine for raven….
we heart you too Ian!
Makes the case against the arguments opposed to weatherizing federal buildings: Don’t call that wasteful spending, it’s exactly what our country needs.
He delivers a spanking nicely, no?
Still filing things in triplicate!
Is there anyone who thinks he’s fucking up here?
happy V-day Raven…LOL and all the rest of the good Pups(:>))
mimmiographs
Smart President, clueless White House press corps.
Just came in from dinner out and listening in the car. He talked so much faster than usuual—made me think he didn’t believe much of what he was saying. Just the aural impression.
i don’t want all the medical records computerized unless obama changes our policy of spying on americans and puts some real protections in place to prevent it from happening in the future.
Chuck Todd proves he is an economic moron.
His defense of spending on schools was really clear and cogent. Yeah!
Return on Investment say it! Spend money on a tax cut and the money is spent.
Spend money on a job putting in insulated windows and after the money is spent on the job for the worker and the new window Every Year after that you save money on heat.
Return on investment
smackdown banks
oooh, Chuck Todd asks isn’t overspending how we got into this position?
Obama straightens him out: it was banks taking wild risks with other peoples money on shaky assets, 30:1
Me too but it is ironic that we would get “Geez, does he think he’s a college prof” on a thread posted by the Prof!
Oh, Jeez… Chuck “I love video stuff” Todd… with a REALLY, REALLY stupid question… (Well, unless it was a plant to let Obama ’splain it to him, which I doubt.)
dumbasses
they should have left him to crunching poll numbers. That’s about all he was good at.
Xeroxes come get up to date! Who uses a mimeograph anymore??
Not I. He’s being perfectly clear so far.
Time after Time!!
Disappointing.
Quit the lectures- you had an opening statement. Answer the damn questions.
And quit bending over backwards to be politically correct. That is not what got you elected.
I gave up after the Iran question. Hope it improves, but I can’t take any more.
He is displaying all the traits that people worried he would display in the debates. Fortunately that did not happen, and he gave concise, thoughtful answers which sounded like they came out of his own brain. It sound like tonight he is overwhelmed by his handler’s briefing notes.
snark
The promotion of Chuck Todd to White House Correspondent is rivaled only in its stupidity by the promotion of Chris Cillizza to White House Correspondent.
Your’e really too kind to Todd.
touché
.
There. Fixed for accuracy.
I do not…the election showed, I think, people are wanting some sanity and education and reassurance.
I did not come in here ginned up to spend eight hundred billion dollars!~
he is thoughtfull and great
yeah, chuck serves as napoleon’s idiot. splain it to me agin
Question: Consumer spending got us into this mess. Won’t more do more of the same?
What a dumb fuck question. Pardon my language. But it shows a complete and probably intentional lack of understanding of even the simplest economics. Apparently he has never heard of this guy Keynes. Somebody should tell him.
shoulda been twice that.
Chuck Todd irritates the living HELL out of me.
yes. but as per usual, i’m hoping i’m really, really wrong.
Uh-oh, the markets won’t like that: there’s no such thing as a free lunch.
Talks about changing bad habits.
Where’s Helen Thomas when you need her?
GOOD QUESTION
30 to 1 leverage Yes! Maybe he read a comment I made on my first Diary although the numbers I used said 36 to 1 leverage. Still Obama must be reading the same people I read.
No Kudlow, Ben Stein, Bobo etc.
And that our President was a college Prof
Raven, left a little tid-bit for ya back on that there thread.
;~D
DW
Surely you jest? *g* There will always be criticism. How are you, by the way?
Just read Selling of the President. Nixon had his As timed to between 1 and 2 minutes, and get all his important points in.
Indeed!
Chucky The Senator From New York is now an “expert?” Says who? ECAHN, I NEED HELP HERE! Is Chucky as dumb as I think he is?
this could have been a great presser if roubini and taleb were asking the questions.
thx, got it
if a bullfrog had wings he wouldn’t bump his ass when he hopped
in our dreams.
Maybe she will get the last question: Thank you Mr. President. Maybe…
I’m hoping she gets the last question.
Nice…and here I was worried about using ‘hell’ in responding. Little did I know you seem to have a fondness for my favorite ‘cuss word.’
:0)
Can’t tell how smart of not Senator Mukasey is. His job depends on his being a Wall St. tool.
Overworked and underpaid! And you?
Obama talking up Geithner and his plans. I only wish the substance were real.
Obama talks about need for transparency and seeing what is really on the banks’ books. Short of nationalization this is impossible.
Government can’t substitute for private capital. Well, it still has to act and is in the best position to force what needs to be done.
So Nixon’s the template to strive for?
Ooops. Obama using a lagging indicator, jobs, as the sign of whether his program is working. Back to school on that one.
Q from Jake Tapper: How can we tell if your plans are working?
As if Obama is entirely responsible for the economy’s performance.
But he does not challenge the premise. That’s the one tool Cheney gave us that’s worthwhile: challenge the premise.
Do civilized people need to send tax money to southern gooper states to repair schools that haven’t been rebuilt since 1850 because of gooper philosophy?
Bullshit!
Thanks, Mrs. pastfedup is a good woman, for putting up with me these last 8 years.
Don’t know what Obama’s going for, to me it needs more emotion. I don’t know how it sounds to others, but he needs to find a way to put more conviction in his voice.
Sold an unpopular “loser” who hated people twice as prez. Think that should give you an idea of whether his marketing was effective or not.
Out there poisoning young minds hehehehe
i’ll report, you decide:
From ralphbon (in FDL comments)
RV’s now that’s a growth industry.
Now there’s a content analysis for ya, what if he had said THE plan?
Who asked the Metric question? How do we measure if your plan is working? I wish I said that.
Jobs is the metric, Nice give a Nice short answer, then you can and should ramble/explain.
Bad link
We must always remember that we’re a foul-mouthed feminist blog…!
thank Goddess!
Well, this is where he’s talking to the TV audience. They’re looking around town and seeing jobs disappear…
Naw this keeps the pressure on longer if the economy gets better the GOP will say its time to end the Stimulus.
This way he can keep the Stimulus going longer. Its a tactic I like it.
Darlin’, they have some of them in New England too… Lived there, saw them.
But he also talked about businesses being able to borrow.
That’s precisely the audience that Nixon reached so effectively.
I agree. It gives me the creeps every time he gets all enthusiastic on the med records kick.
Good Answer on the returning dead troops/coffins…respectful, thoughtful,
no sign of exploiting the issue
I wish he would stop saying HOMELAND.
I hope this works
http://seekingalpha.com/articl…..-you-think
Rewarding those gooper states who choose not to spend money on their own kids by sending em a disproportionate share of federal funds is bad policy.
Well, his As are so long, he gets to talk about everything.
TV is not a medium for this kind of exposition. If I understood the lessons from Selling, it’s that. Interestingly, said that radio was more the medium for longer explanations.
Why do they have to evaluate whether or not to allow soldiers caskets shown to the public? Another Bush program he can’t just over turn. WTF
Nixon reached what is now dying as the tag end of the “moral majority,” the “Southern Strategy” folks.
yes. and it’s never the kids fault. no reason
FOX guy Major Garrett up now!
How could I have forgotten? Well, it will not happen again.
I agree, it’s called our country or USA or US.
Dang and I thought it was a DFH’s blog!!
O’s a little on the long winded side eh?
AMEN!!!
At least he speaks in coherent sentences. That’s a big change.
I went to a school that was built in 1890 does that count???
Doesn’t matter what the audience is. Certain tools for reaching them are the same.
I think WTF was in part to not showboat on the question….not quite the right time
I see Helen T. in the front row. Her turn!
does credit “flow”?
galbraith says no, that’s a misconception.
dunno if anyone else caught the piece on CNN about life for the poor in Palin’s Christian capitalist paradise of a state… unemployed families so desperate that they’re subsisting on scavanged animal corpses
and wild berries. savage Famine in the richest country earth. we have a lot of things to fix and anlot
of rethugs to kick to the curb before the Obama administration can even begin to fix ‘em.
You know, we have a whole two wars’ worth of grieving families who are used to the current system, and I have to wonder if the future dead heroes’ families might feel horrible exposed if the policy changed. It was a bad policy to start with, but without serious study I wouldn’t want to see it changed right away.
Well, all female DFHs are probably Foul-Mouthed-Feminists, but some Foul-Mouthed-Feminists are too young to have been REAL honest-to-God DFHs…!
MathMeth capitol of the state I recallHELEN GETS A QUESTION!
Except the money needs to go to the underprivileged kids’ schools…and Headstart, all the rest.
Helen!
Helen!
When you were there did the roof leak? Was the auditorium able to be used? Did you have enough books and pencils and paper?
i love helen thomas!!!
1. she says “so-called terrorists”
2. her second question: mr. president, do you think there is any country in the ME that has nuclear weapons?
I use the VA and have benefited from their Computerized system. All your Doctors can bring up all your information, which includes every visit, test and meds you are taking. It also helps prevent prescriptions from being prescribed that might have counter reactions to each other. And many other gtreat things such as I have been shown all my different scans that I have had right there on the computer screen!
Yes do you know of any Arab countries that have Nukes? The Saudi/American Nuclear Reactor deal might finally get some coverage!
any bets on whether he answers the second part of her question?
Israel anyone?
Remember that Bill Clinton was long winded too. It remains to be seen whether people like listening to Obama as much as they liked Bill.
Yes, and the one thing missing in PBO’s A was that he should consult with the families of the fallen troops. If I were one, I’m not so sure I’d want his casket photographed and shown all over the place.
Thanks
Helen Thomas Rules!
Nope. Won’t mention it.
Wow, the press corps sounds inane now that we have a president who can express complex ideas.
SAM
Sam Stein Huff Post about the misdeeds of the Bush Administration!
Internet Press gets a question.
Oh yes!
prosecution of bush officials.
Does not say no!!
Sam Stein, Huff Post!!!! Now there’s change we can believe in. Good ? too about Leahy and truth commission.
that’s my reaction, too
Truth and Reconcliation commission Just getting that idea out there in the public has to scare the GOP.
If there are clear instances!!
HuffPo up to bat.
Great question.
Looks like Obama is a total fxckin punt.
Lets see how he stirs in a pinch of sugar….”clear instances of wrong doing…” … “but…” YES THE LOOKING FORWARD BULLSHIT.
He dodged it
The Third Temple
No leaks and we seemed to have everything we needed. Of course that was when Boston had one of the finest school systems in the country! They did regular maintenance way back then.
What he said is “the lousy compromised Senate stimulus bill is what you’re getting”.
The dog didn’t bark. That’s what’s significant.
Obama’s answer on prosecuting Bush lawbreakers is mush.
Goodness Gracious, A Prez that fields Helen’s Ques…! A real Man is in Office now…! ;-)
Fantastic!!
I’m glad that it works for you. As someone who works for doctors/hospitals my concern has to do with HIPAA (which is one of the dumbest pieces of crap to EVER come out of Congress…) or, actually, your privacy. It’s waaaay to easy to hack into your records…
Mara Liasson asks how O can be even more bipartisan, since he failed so miserably with the stimulus.
Oh, great… Mara Liason. One of the Nice Polite Republicans…
I’m still gritting my teeth over that one. Too bad presidential signing statements can’t be applied to spending measures….
It couldn’t have been clearer to me. “If there are clear instances, no one is above the law”
Obama repeated that he wants to move forward. But if the guilty aren’t punished they will be encouraged to break the law in the future. Wish somebody would ask him about that.
That Israel has nukes is old news America selling Nuclear Reactors to Saudi Arabia the country that gave us Ossama the American people have not heard that.
Getting a little hot about the GOP claims of having been excluded.
Your List contains numerous ‘clear circumstances’…! ;-)
Answers in paragraphs. Actual answers, in actual paragraphs. Even when I don’t agree, he just sounds smart, and makes me want to think again to see if I might be wrong.
His words don’t sound very bipartisan. Lotsa blaming. (Accurate, of course.) Rs will be furious tomorrow.
Need to break out of our ideological gridlocks, don’t want to hear criticism from those who doubled the federal debt. Of course, then there’s a segue to entitlements.
I keep thinking that maybe something is REALLY afoot with this and Obama is just ‘covering.’
Calling out the repubs and saying he’s not taking lectures from the people who brought us to this state.
Good job, Bama.
So how’s he going to make it up to Helen Thomas for cutting her off, knowing full well she as going to utter the word “Israel” in a questioning way…?
I think the “way back then” is the key. I went to school in a turn-of-the-century building in NYC when I was young. It was as solid as a rock, the teachers loved teaching, we had books, and paper, and crayons, and lunch, and art and music and and and… Well, we pretty much had all those things that have been “tax breaked” out of education….
BOO HOO
Eventually the GOPs will marginalize themselves completely, in their fury against this cool calm collected rational demeanor.
Is that a bad thing or not?
Mara Liasson, one of the NPR elite, made my point: “spending and cutting taxes should be easy, why did you fail?” Gah.
About twelve meters of “clear circumstances,” IIRC.
That is the test, isn’t it? Sure didn’t rule it out.
They take patient confidentiality real serious at the VA. They take lots precautions with their security. To even get an online account you have to bring ina form that you got when you were trying to sign up for it and then have it signed by someone who had the authority to say yes you are who you say you are before they allow the online account. I was a system administrator and I understand computer security and they DO take it very seriously.
DING! DING!! DING!!!
I’m just puzzled by his claim he wants to be bipartisan then doing something blatant to undermine it.
Did you catch the special NPR segment this morning on “Ferdowsi” (Firdausi)?
I’m sure not many heard it, but those who did got a far different picture of Iran than the “Axis of Evil” purveyors of eternal conflict have been giving us for the past 8 years. A very nice piece.
I guess I shouldn’t complain about the poet’s name. (Would you like to go to a play by Sheikh Spear?) Wikipedia spells it like Inskeep does, but I learned it as Firdausi. Maybe its one of those modernization things, like how Peking became Beijing, where an old system of transcription has been replaced by something now considered better. Excuse me while I totter away to fuddyduddydom.
Bob in HI
“ideological blockage that needs to be cleared out” will certainly provoke a response from Lynne Cheney
Yup. But he’s pissing them off. Oh my!
And at this point we would give a shit because….?
On the Bush criminals thing, I think people should give Obama a bit more time. They have a lot of criminal evidence to gather and sort through to understand the depths of what happened. It wouldn’t be prudent to state anything definitive at this point.
Wow, selise, that was umpteen months ago; I’m honored.
you betcha. the WATBs
Oh, I still call it Peking. Did so all summer on this very blog.
See my 235.
I think the country has so become so accustomed to 20 second sound bites that when one dares to elaborate, it is construed as long winded? i dunno. I’m just glad that his words were polysyllabic
Yay, now Tweety will tell us what to think.
Perhaps he will provide “content analysis,” Raven!
Yes– entering Afghanistan through NE Iran to Herat is actually the easiest land route to go. But then of course we’d have to deal with the Axis of Evil and all that. /s
Bob in HI
Rs will be furious tomorrow.
And we should give a shit because? Like they gave a damn when we were upset.
Maybe the families should be asked and have the choice. It will be especially difficult for the first ones I think.
The irony is intriguing.
hey babe,i still love him
dude it was so awesome, how could i forget? – besides, i put it on my time line for easy reference *g*
I’m not worried about the VA, or about the hospital where I work. My concern lies in knowing that insurance companies (do you have secondary insurance?) and hospitals’ web portals have been hacked into. I’ve got real, serious concerns about on-line personal health information. I would NEVER put my health records on line.
I wondered…I do know that others got follow up questions.
I enjoyed the fuller answers.
Is there something wrong with thorough answers?
Rachel is up…I’ll make sure to have the mute button at the ready for tweety
I just don’t think it’s Obama’s thing to chase after shrubco criminal aggressively. I just hope that the evidence becomes
so damning that the Holder DOJ has to act.
Yes it is a crime what has been done to education all over this country. I blame it all on the Repukes who only care about their own wallets! They have no intention of “Their” money being spent on the poor or the middle class. They only care about the education of the kids in their own families.
I see wht you mean, some change should come slowly.
and TWEETY is a TWIT
Tweety now gumming the press for their excellent questions.
I was wondering the same thing.
Stupid media have some weird ideas about what bipartisan means. It means agreeing on the problem, and then working on ideas to solve it. Obama patiently explained that several times. I wonder how many more times he will have to do it before people understand.
woo hoo! does that mean larry summers will be out on his ass?
Stop saying entitlements cuts, only money makes a difference in education we need reform Charter schools? No Fund the schools better! Instead of entitlements end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
This is the most disappointing part of the speech for me.
I liked the part about 30 to 1 debt. I liked the metrics question. Truth Commission I have never seen a President say anything so Gutsy.
Lots of Good some rambling at first one low point from my Lefty Point of view.
Plus no lizard brain reaction to lies or stupidity. I was actually interested. If the GOP found him interesting we win they don’t have to like him just find him interesting.
When people pay attention to the issues we win. When people are fat and happy we lose. I think current GOP strategy is Fat and Angry angry that the fat the meal the easy money is over. To angry to think about why.
We need people to think why.
It’s just going to be fun to watch. Real fun.
Hey there!! How are you doing? I was thinking about you today.
good bet. He liked Mara Liasson’s, Chuck Todd’s and Jake Tapper’s questions. That kind of says all you need to know about Tweety.
Well, Jesus Christ almighty, he’s been President for almost 3 whole fucking weeks! Why hasn’t he solved all of America’s problems? He SUX!!!111!!1!!1
And why would he show his hand?
twitty/tweety
Or Saudia Arabia
hangin on
Aloha, Bob! I’m going to be on Oahu at Queen’s MC tomorrow thru Thursday any chance we could meet up someplace…? ;-)
Agreed. Perhaps we should call the Whaaaaambulance, or whine one one.
National Propaganda Radio’s Mara Liasson is a has been. We will begin to see new faces at pressers. Huffpo, AirAmerica had a correspondents, hopefully the Nation as well.
Who is the 2 reporters on CNN? I don’t even know them and they are evaluating the Pres’s news conference?
“people” understand, neithern democrats or republican politicians understand
pulling toward the center is NOT what this economy needs, this economy NEEDS progressive agenda NOT center agenda, center economic agenda will fail
Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown I hope?
Tweety—”I love to think with him” (Obama)
That’s one for the record books. Words fail.
I don’t know. Which is why I raised the subject. Don’t think it’s what you said though, as the Rs, unlike Charlie Brown, never believed the football was there to begin with.
Thanks! I just sprayed my monitor on that one. You aren’t kidding. The bitchfest has begun in earnest. It’s not like this happened or will be solved overnight. I’m ever more convinced that some people just will never be satisfied
Oh, bless you! I had heard about the Waaaaahmbulance, but this nearly made me squirt beer out of my nose!
RACHEL!
Nichole and Mark Preston? Who are these CNN news readers?
glad to see you here
Hey, no puppy question? They went with an even more insipid A-Roid question instead? Maybe Obama threw off their sequence by calling on actual journalists not from the Big Media, and they lost their chance.
fromwebsters
TWIT
: a silly annoying person : fool
Well technically I do have supplemental insurance Medical but they don’t have access to my records, they had to get my authorization to get copies of what they needed to get my coverage. The only records at the A are through their secure portal and they are really not “Online”. But I am hoping we can get universal health where there are NO Medical insurance companies left standing. They have been one of the root cause of why medical costs have skyrocketed! They don’t deserve to be in business where the bottom line is more important that someone life!!
So, what did I think about the presser? i think that it was a refreshing change from Bush and that I don’t envy the job this man has ahead of him.
C-SPAN caller reaction has been very positive so far…
Nice to see the Fox types (including Mara Liasson) continuing the tradition of just-short-of-Jeff-Gannon dickish questions.
I did like his baseball answer; didn’t duck, pretty straight forward.
I’m thinking the delay tactic is a loser for the republics. The American people know who gave us this massive shit hole.
Do you have a link to an authoritative article on Saudi nuclear capabilities?
He is not playing to the GOP he is playing to the audience the American People.
Give me s second
This is what some people complained about during the campaign. McCain was the excitable one, exuding more emotion. Is that what you liked?
Turns out Obama read the country’s mood much better: the public wanted a calm cool head who was capable of sustained thought. So I disagree with pastfedup’s take on Obama’s public mood. Obama does know how to put an edge in his voice if its needed, but so far he’s shown pretty good judgment about when to use it.
Bob in HI
They seem more republican these days.
Are there plans for New Orleans in the stimulus package?
AHA!!! No medical insurance companies! Now we’re in complete agreement!
tax cuts?
Yeah.
He uses humor and a great smile…he was smashing in his remarks about the folks who got us here and now entrenced in the fiscal responsibility ideology. I think folks get the ridiculousness of that. Except Laura, Rush, Sean. So?
Joe Sudbay of AmericaBlog was also credentialed for tonite’s presser!
Rachel disappointed with her comment that there really weren’t any soundpoint moments that we could come away with. IMHO we have to get beyond the superficial shit to come to an understanding of the issues.
Obama was stimulative tonight. This was not at all like GWB saying that the problem was that OBL hates our way of life. This is like rays of sunshine hopefully at sunrise as opposed to sunset.
I hope so. I sent you an email with my phone number. Did you get it?
Bob in HI
Here’s a stimulus package with plans for NOLA…
i agree. good tone.
http://www.undergroundpolitics….._deal.html
My White House link from my other diary on this is now showing Obama’s WH page?
Google Saudi Arabia and Nuclear Reactors if you want something more current.
Usually, I cringe listening to the callers. Not as bad as usual, at the moment. Callers tonight, whether Dem, Republican, or independent seems about 90 percent in favor of a stimulus package.
Can’t wait to hear more about her….Thanks.
I do like the fact that he’s repeatedly pointing out (here and elsewhere) that the GOP talking point of “it’s not a stimulus bill, it’s a spending bill” is just flat-out dishonest. There’s only so much you can do with spending vs. tax cuts, where they’re wrong but they’re not obviously wrong (to the layman), but for things like that talking point where there’s no explanation except that they’re consciously lying, the only way to try to stop them is to just come out and say it.
fyi, new thread.
I cannot BEGIN to tell you how fucking sick and tired I am of soundbites. They’ve done more to degrade political discourse in this country than Newt Gingrich ever did… And that’s saying A HELL OF A LOT… Fucking media and it’s love affair with sound bites have damn near destroyed the country.
http://newsblaze.com/story/200…..story.html
RACHEL read my OXDOWN DIARY
love you girls
Nope…! 8-(
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Sooooo, where are the figures the pundits are spouting about the majority not in favour coming from?
Are these fuckin’ Rethug pundits makin’ shit up again? This has been another edition of stupid questions…
Yeah, I really liked the fairly long explanation of what a downward spiral is, and there’s no sound bite that would have made it better. I also think that Obama probably knows that at this point he has a lot of people actually listening to him instead of getting sound bites on the news tomorrow, and it was a good opportunity to do the “talking to us like adults” that went over so well during the campaign.
Thinking about it, that’s a good way to characterize it — when he can talk to the American people, he can talk like an adult. When he’s trying to make things comprehensible to the Washington press corps, he may have no choice but to treat them like children. ;-)
Lurk or Suz, Please scrub my 319 afterwards…! Mahalos… *g*
You did say that we agreed on more than I thought a long time ago!! Do you remember??
Rasmussen poll. Contradicted by all the others, but all the wingnuts are pounding on it, so that one must be true, right?
There is still 3.5 billion dollars that have not been spent for the collective gulf coast hurricanes.
fuckery all around.
Holy cow! Awesome! ;-)
I missed the whole press conference because I was at a local town meeting banging neocon skulls together. Oopsie. Sorry.
As disappointed as I am in so much of what Obama is doing (and whom he’s appointing), here was a president spending an hour trying hard not to insult Americans’ intelligence. And pronouncing “nuclear” like we haven’t heard it pronounced in 8 years.
Thankful. For. Small. Favors.
I got CT /s But I have it already(:>)) Is your sweetie having her tests tomorrow CT and If so wish her the best from both of us?!!
thanks for the link
Make any headway?
bless you for your good work!
Well, me and girls are up against 13 families in town who want to change the entire subdivision ordinance to benefit themselves and we don’t think it’s fair for them to do that. Anyway, we got reprimanded tonight by one of the Selectman for talking. Eh. Not unusual. LOL
Wednesday at 0430 they’re scheduling her pre-op Angiogram testing…! Last time I saw 0430 was when I last visited the Mountain top…! Such an ungodly hour, no? ;-)
Yep!
YGM
Bob in HI
Mind as sharp as a tack eh Marion?? To keep it that way drink at least three cups of Coffee a day, latest study finds!
By the way, these 13 families are scaaaaaaaaaary, meaning, they don’t have a lot of money but do own guns. Anyway, they don’t like our FEMALE TOWN MANAGER who came to office in 2004 kicking ass and taking names. She stopped these families from using the town to pay for everything they wanted and needed. Honestly, I don’t blame her. There comes a time when you just have to stop the madness! And she did, so now they decided to change the whole entire subdivision ordinance by making it easier, making it so the town will have to pay for the upkeep and other stuff, and they want to make the whole process so cheap that anyone can form a subdivision for the price of a Wal-mart shirt practically!
THE BOTTOM LINE: They don’t like the female town manager and it’s sexist, so they want the town to feel bad for them because they drool down their necks and drag their knuckles on the ground when they walk!
LOL I don’t mean to laugh, but it is funny.
YES CT Last time I saw that hour I was in the Hospital! Best to both of ya CT!
Hrrrm…! Dial-up Sux!!! 8-(
I think, on balance, it’s very good for our side. He’s laid out all the arguments for stimulus, and criticized the strongest anti-stimulus arguments. I also think this is telling:
He’s promising to go back for more, if need be. What is not said, however, is equally telling; he’s not saying that most economists are sure he will need to go back for more.
335 was the short version. I was raised by rock-ribbed Republicans, long enough ago that Republicans were still sane. (Misguided but sane…) It taught me that when push comes to shove (what a wonderful piece of coreography that was…) people of good will have more in common than they have differences.
When I was living in Maine we had some families who lived off the grid and owned a good bit of land but they were some of the nicest people once you got to know them. But I have met the type you are talking about took advantage of everything and anyone they could get away with. They also made a habit of pooching game!
True Dat Marion. But the Repukes have sure lost their way! They became the party of greed and to hell with your fellow man. I am sure if Abe could speak to them now he would be giving them hell for screwing up the country he fought so hard to keep together. He would be heart broken at how they have become so divisive and petty!
Nahant, these assholes hate women. They’re scary. I brought mace with me tonight just in case. LOL I’m serious! The town I live in has gone on for too long without ethics. It’s stunning. It was a free for all for years and then Sharon walked through the doors and pulled the sucking mouths off the town titty. Oh boy! Fun times.
Press conference Q & A
http://oxdown.firedoglake.com/diary/3562
And Nahant? I’ve talked to a couple of the guys individually and they are nice. When they get into a group, however, that’s when they get out of control. I don’t like the idea of changing the WHOLE ENTIRE subdivision ordinance to suit only a few. It’s not sitting right with me. How would they like it if I changed a whole ordinance to benefit my son and I? The townspeople would be livid and I would expect them to be.
Wish I could have been there Kay to watch such animals act out! Glad there is change happening. I lived in Limerick iirc not far from where you live and for the most part the towns people were fairly liberal back then. At the same time you couldn’t get me back there to live for no amount of money. I have become completely acclimated to the Bay Area. Can’t beat the weather and the lack of bugs(no black flies) in the warm time of year.
Heh…! It would be fascinating to see what Abe and MLK and Bobby Kennedy and Jesus would have to say to the current batch of “centrists.” (The current batch of Republicans are beyond redemption…)
Truth…You can’t handle the truth!
Yeah Nahant that’s where I grew up, just outside of Boston on the North shore near Lynn.
Could I be a fly on the wall for that little get together..
do… not…. feed….. It’s only a small weak troll, but we don’t need to nourish it!
I’ll save you a spot right next to me!
Off to start dinner be back later…
Just popping in to say Mr. K8 and I very much enjoyed it. (Except for the stupidity of some of the questions.)
We were HAPPY (and at several responses, turned to each other, grinning) to hear a president explain his thinking so very clearly, reasonably, rationally. Full paragraphs.
It reminded me very much of the Fireside Chats of FDR. I actually listened to several of them recently online, and they had the same tone of candor, the same sense of how we are all in it together, how the problems are complicated, but there are rational steps we can take. And explaining WHY.
And people of good will are going to be reassured now, just as they were in the thirties, that we don’t have either a madman at the helm (like Bush) or a detached, uninterested, uncaring observer (Hoover).
And just like back then, there will be a hardcore of haters who will be cheering for his failure and screaming SOCIALISM, TRAITOR, etc.
We’d just better hope we don’t get another coup plot, but if we did, that we’d be lucky enough to have another Gen. Smedley Butler type to rat them out.
Peking. Saigon. Hanoi. Burma.
(((Raven)))
Yep. Tigers took one look at that one, sniffed and walked off, tails justa flickin’.
Was there actually a serious coup plot?
More press conference goodness upstairs. See ya there.
Business Plot
(((Marion in Savannah)))
Oh my, yes.
There’s an article on Wikipedia about it, they call it the “Business Plot.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot
And there was an article in the Guardian about it last year, IIRC. about newly revealed historical documents. If I’m not mistaken, Prescott Bush was hovering about with the other dastardly buzzards.
You beat me to it, Southern Dragon! Thanks!
Then there are the militia folks that put liens on other peoples property and steal the mail notifying them about the upcoming Court case.
i was hoping for helen first too.. big disappointed. gibbs faux pas? or deliberate.
didn’t much like “you guys” at the end either.
There’s also a BBC radio documentary about it.
There’s also an odd little movie with Katherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy, called Keeper of the Flame, where Hepburn plays the widow of a popular national hero who was not who he seemed to be — he had been plotting a fascist coup against the president with all sorts of other nasty industrialists/tycoons.
Clearly a fictionalized account of some aspects of the real deal, but using the “dead so-called hero” as a plot device to reveal the villainy. (”Charles Lindbergh”-type inspiration for the character, I always thought, but other film buffs see other individual historical inspirations as possibilities). Very unusual flick.
I enjoy dipping back into the historical well these days. We even sometimes listen to thirties old-time radio on the Internet, both for fun and to pick up on the cultural vibes back then.
Southern Dragon –
Thanks very much for the link! I had heard something about a radio documentary, but didn’t know where to find it.
Thank you for the information on the plot and the movie.
I spent a few minutes looking up the plot online and P.Bush seems to get mention.
You’re welcome. The BBC can do some good work.
macaquerman –
You are very welcome. I really find it sad that most people don’t know about that bit of history, and I think it’s not a bad idea for people to become acquainted with the love affair the right has had HISTORICALLY for fascist violence and the notion of a takeover.
People need to be conscious of the dangerous shoals ahead. I put virtually NOTHING past the enemies of the common good in our nation.
That statement is insultung to critical thinker. America needs a legislative agenda that will address her problems. Obama states his priority is the economy then he hires a bunch that created the disaster. I know all of thr challenges will never be fixed as more will pop up.
Yes we are happy to have an intelligent person as president.
Bipartisan is not a concept that Republicans of today can work with as htey are idealogues.
We need the rule of law restored…Rs do not want regulatuins, oversight and transparency. Bipartisan is another way to give up the aganda he ran on.
We are here not as cheerleaders…more advisors. If you see that as anti Obama then get some counseling for you are emotionalizing your argument and not stating what you really believe. Feel good does not get us to where we need to be. Moral authority and strong economy. I read the stuff Obama did in Chicago before law school…he knows what needs to happen but getting along with the Rs has taken the frony seat in his cabinet choices, cutting up the stimulus bill by his hatchet man Rahm.
Speaking of Gen Smedley Butler, his little book War is a Racket is a must read.
From the video a very nice setting for it..”Please be seated”. All very respectful with the proper pomp. And as usual Barack was cool under pressure and answered what he wanted the message to be.
No complaints. I want the state stimulus part to be adequate to restore services cut that will be more than they started with. What will come out of conference?
Really good point. This was not an authoritarian speaker talking down to the masses…This was adult to adult transaction. Good to have that. Good point.
Just got back to see your msg, and am off now to make a late dinner, but thanks you again for all the linky goodness.
I read that book (now in public domain, FREE online) back in 2003, right before the war started, and I found it so powerful it had me simultaneously weeping in anger, and cheering for Butler’s true love of country and courage.
So many people who never heard of WAR IS A RACKET would profit by reading it, and it is blessedly free.
Thanks for helping every set of eyeballs which wanders by here!
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bigbrother –
Thanks! Wish I could stick around and chat more, but Mr. K8 is hungry and I don’t get to see him in the evenings as much as I’d like. Will keep my eye out for you and all the other wonderful Pups the next time I can take a refreshing dip in this Lake.
And we take enormous quantities of their oil and refine it and then GIVE it to Israel to go after the Gazans. That sure doesn’t help our popularity with the Arab world.
bb — love your transactional analysis talk. :)
yes the “pig-parent” child ego state parent pretenders are gone, or at least off that podium. listening to McCain pop off about bipartisanship this week, I said a silent prayer of gratitude he wasn’t up there.
Did he call on anyone from Fox?