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Early Morning Swim

By: Blue Texan Monday February 9, 2009 4:57 am

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  • Selling the stimulus.
  • The Shrill One isn’t happy.
  • But was this the best we can get?
  • Just don’t tell that to the states.
  • Thanks, Ben and Susan!
  • Those damned automakers unions strike again.
  • Revolt of the liberals?
  • Coultergeist probed.
  • Steele’s party line: blame the Democrats.

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nomolos February 9th, 2009 at 5:04 am
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Coultergeist probed.

Rather you than me

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Beerfart Liberal February 9th, 2009 at 5:06 am
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Thanks, Ben and Susan!

Eliminating 25 Billion in flexible funding for state governments.

??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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klynn February 9th, 2009 at 5:06 am
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In response to nomolos @ 1

Eww, brain bleach.

Coulter still makes me think of the movie Soap Dish every time I see her.

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klynn February 9th, 2009 at 5:07 am
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I’m calling every Senator and HRep asking for a very large increase in infrastructure spending.

Anyone want to join me?

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nomolos February 9th, 2009 at 5:07 am
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In response to Beerfart Liberal @ 2

My governor is on my call list this morning. I called all my city councilors yesterday, yep Sunday at home!!!!

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JClausen February 9th, 2009 at 5:08 am
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Good morning pups.

I think this week is gonna be trying. Krugman hits the nail on the head.

“For rather than acknowledge the failure of his political strategy and the damage to his economic strategy, the president tried to put a postpartisan happy face on the whole thing. “Democrats and Republicans came together in the Senate and responded appropriately to the urgency this moment demands,” he declared on Saturday, and “the scale and scope of this plan is right.”

No, they didn’t, and no, it isn’t.”

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CarolynU February 9th, 2009 at 5:10 am
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Collins and staff are in a state of denial. When I called one of her Maine offices on Friday, apoplectic at the cuts she had negotiated, her smug and snotty staffer asked me where I was getting my information. I told her I was looking at a list of cuts printed on FDL and she told me “there’s a lot of misinformation out there”. A very superior tone letting me know I am one of the “little people”. Would love to have reached through the phone line to smack her upside the head.

Collins is freaking proud of herself. No trouble sleeping at night there.

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Beerfart Liberal February 9th, 2009 at 5:10 am
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In response to klynn @ 3

the pocture that accompanied this article at HuffPostw as different than rthe one in the link here. Hideous. Scary. Frightening.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..65007.html

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CarolynU February 9th, 2009 at 5:11 am
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In response to klynn @ 4

Yep. I’m making calls again today.

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RevBev February 9th, 2009 at 5:12 am
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In response to CarolynU @ 7

Collins right now on my TV…Today show.

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CarolynU February 9th, 2009 at 5:13 am
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In response to RevBev @ 10

I know. My husband had it on. I couldn’t watch. Too early in the day to stoke a furious rage.

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nomolos February 9th, 2009 at 5:13 am
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In response to CarolynU @ 7

You and I must have spoken with the same a**hole. He told me she was only cutting “pork”. Asked what she considered pork, and why he said “everyone has their own ideas what pork is”

WTF

She does not have to run again for 6 years so she can tell her constituents to go ef themselves and is no doubt enjoying it.

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SouthernDragon February 9th, 2009 at 5:13 am
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Mornin’, BT, pups

I found this pic of Satann with an article about the voter fraud thingy yesterday. Must have been pre-face lift, or whatever. It certainly matches one segment of this.

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RevBev February 9th, 2009 at 5:14 am
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In response to CarolynU @ 11

Is she speech challenged? Or Face fixed?

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SouthernDragon February 9th, 2009 at 5:15 am
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In response to JClausen @ 6

I can’t wait to hear what he has to say this evening. The Senate has blown the stimulus up for whatever stupid reason(s). Krugman’s column is killer.

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Bluetoe2 February 9th, 2009 at 5:16 am
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In response to JClausen @ 6

Obama is already a prisoner of his own rhetoric of “bipartisanship.” Would have been better had he seen the true challenge being saving the economy rather than the need for bipartisanhip. That he will be promoting a fatally flawed bill does not bode well for the country.

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CarolynU February 9th, 2009 at 5:20 am
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I feel heartsick. This economic meltdown is really taking the measure of a lot of people – like Collins and Nelson and that other hero, Leiberman. They are tight hearted and superior and without any measure of compassion for the enormous suffering that their actions will cause.

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Bluetoe2 February 9th, 2009 at 5:21 am
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If Republicans were advising the Captain of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg they would counsel putting the ship in reverse and smashing into the berg again because it was still in their way.

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Beerfart Liberal February 9th, 2009 at 5:24 am
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In response to CarolynU @ 7

Deling with such punks calls to mind a line from Arnold in The Terminator.

(May want to get the children out of the room)

http://www.moviewavs.com/php/s…..EEPyou.mp3

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RevBev February 9th, 2009 at 5:24 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 16

Krugman’s rhetoric is as strong as O’s…

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KayInMaine February 9th, 2009 at 5:25 am
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Let’s see here….42% in tax cuts and 58% in spending. Hmmmmm, now where have I heard those numbers before? Oh that’s right! Rush Limbaugh said on his show a week or so ago that he thinks the breakdown on the economic stimulus bill should reflect the breakdown of the Senate!

And Sen. Susan Collins, Snowe, Spector and others obliged him. Assholes. It’s all a game to the republiCONS who don’t give a flying rats ass about the working people in this country. They think welfare doesn’t stimulate a damn thing, but when told that $100 in food stamps given to a single mother will be spent IMMEDIATELY AND ALL OF IT WILL BE GONE, they still don’t see it.

Jerks.

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SouthernDragon February 9th, 2009 at 5:25 am
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In response to Beerfart Liberal @ 19

Works for me, although bein’ a sailor I’d add a bunch of adjectives.

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Bluetoe2 February 9th, 2009 at 5:26 am
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In response to RevBev @ 20

What’s your’e point?

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Beerfart Liberal February 9th, 2009 at 5:27 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 22

cracks me up, every time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeV-DI09Q3w

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RevBev February 9th, 2009 at 5:28 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 23

O, maybe something to get O’s attention.

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CarolynU February 9th, 2009 at 5:28 am
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In response to KayInMaine @ 21

I am coming to understand that there are a lot of people – those who are comfortably well off, say, who cannot relate to a single mother on welfare without passing a moral judgement. That such a person is a failure, lazy, morally bankrupt, and therefore, not deserving of help.

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Bluetoe2 February 9th, 2009 at 5:30 am
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In response to RevBev @ 25

He’s already insolated by advisors that in many ways are responsible for the collapse of the economy. I’m beginning to think he chose poorly.

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RevBev February 9th, 2009 at 5:32 am
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In response to CarolynU @ 26

Our local paper yesterday had a political cartoon portraying images of the Texan essence/character: The last image said we Texans believe in health care for everyone…who can afford it. Nice/s

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Beerfart Liberal February 9th, 2009 at 5:32 am
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In response to CarolynU @ 26

Yeah. “She shoulda used birth control.” But the same people freak at the idea of birth control being made more widely available and education about it “with my tax money.”

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SouthernDragon February 9th, 2009 at 5:33 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 27

I’ve been bothered by his choice of economic advisers since day one. Summers is a loser par excellance.

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eCAHNomics February 9th, 2009 at 5:35 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 27

Some of us said that from the getgo. Reason I have very little to say now. This was all so predicted.

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STTPinOhio February 9th, 2009 at 5:35 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 16

That he will be promoting a fatally flawed bill does not bode well for the country.

While I share in much of the disappointment around here re: this bill, I think it’s important to note this will not be the last train leaving the station; there will be lots more cash allocated the rest of the year.

Let’s get this one behind us and move on to the next fight.

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eCAHNomics February 9th, 2009 at 5:37 am
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In response to STTPinOhio @ 32

The next one is likely to be too late to stem the downward momentum in the economy. Might be too late already.

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KayInMaine February 9th, 2009 at 5:37 am
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In response to CarolynU @ 26

Yep. I spit on those people. I’ll never forget the time Rush Limbaugh told the story of the “lazy liberal American”. He said he was sitting in his limo in the parking lot of a grocery store waiting for his person to get his groceries (what a fat lazy rich asshole he is!) and while sitting there he noticed a woman of less means than him trying to get two shopping carts apart that were stuck together. Instead of wasting her time in doing that, she gave up (we all do! No one has tools with them to get two carts apart!) and grabbed a free one. Well, Ass Limbo went on and on and on about how lazy the liberals and the poor are in this country and how it’s the wealthy who are the ones to get the job done and who are the hard workers!

And you know what? Many of his listeners are the ‘lady & the shopping cart’ scenario, but will they say to Rush when he tells a pompous ass story like that? They will feel bad for him and agree! Stupid, stupid, stupid and the dumbing down of America starts on the East coast Monday-Friday from noon to 3pm and spreads across the nation when he’s on the radio!

Neil Boortz had a similar situation on his show right after AIG folded. He was telling the story about how AIG had a very expensive meeting coming up and he didn’t think it was right to cancel it, even though AIG big whigs had stolen billions. One of his callers said to him (paraphrasing), “Well Neil, I feel bad for AIG and I don’t think they should cancel their meeting no matter how much it costs. I know when me and my family rent out a hall for a family gathering, we have to put a security deposit on the hall and we don’t want to lose it if we have to cancel! It’s expensive!”.

OMG.

Yes, $200 to rent out a hall is the same as losing a $1,000,000! What the hell…

I’m sick of these people in our country who don’t get it. They have wrapped themselves around the Devil and don’t see it.

Okay, going to work with the rest of the lazy hard working Americans! Have a great day everyone! Keep Limbaugh & AIG in your prayers! Spit.

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Bluetoe2 February 9th, 2009 at 5:40 am
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Frank Rich of the NYT on the Bill Press show right now is saying that Obama’s economic team is made up of Wall St. insideres who in large part bear responsibility for the collapse and he does not have a mix of differeing opinions on his team.

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eCAHNomics February 9th, 2009 at 5:41 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 35

duh

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CarolynU February 9th, 2009 at 5:42 am
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KayinMaine – my feelings exactly. Want to spit I am so disgusted. The lack of humanity is appalling. I gotta get to work too. Give them some hell today, everyone.

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eCAHNomics February 9th, 2009 at 5:45 am
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Bill Gross, PIMCO, largely thought to be the guru of fixed income markets, is on cnbc talking total trash, i.e., hoping that time will cure the banks’ balance sheets.

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JClausen February 9th, 2009 at 5:46 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 16

Glenzilla hits the post-or Bipartisan theme in his speech to the Mass. ACLU this past weekend as well.

http://bostonist.com/2009/02/0…..s_macl.php

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SanderO February 9th, 2009 at 5:46 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 35

This has been completely transparent. The crew that delivered the disaster is now put in charge of delivering us OUT of the disaster.

This presumes that they can or have the will to do it.

Can’t say. I suppose they are smart enough to realize that the BS in the past caused the problems. But are they wise enough to reverse themselves and do the right thing. Not likely.

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selise February 9th, 2009 at 5:47 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 35

Frank Rich of the NYT on the Bill Press show right now is saying that Obama’s economic team is made up of Wall St. insideres who in large part bear responsibility for the collapse and he does not have a mix of differeing opinions on his team.

good for rich! about time someone other than the dirty fucking hippies was saying that.

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Bluetoe2 February 9th, 2009 at 5:47 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 36

I know. It’s preaching to the choir. If only Americans could follow the example of the people of Latvia, Iceland, Greece, Great Britain and France and step away from this internet circle jerk and hit the streets but then in those countries they have leaders. Where are the teacher unions, the auto unions, the civil rights organizations, university students, senior groups,et al that could call the people out to meet at the Capitol steps?

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selise February 9th, 2009 at 5:58 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 42

the more i think about the more i think we may see more right wing populism than progressive populism.

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SouthernDragon February 9th, 2009 at 6:03 am
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Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool. We had 3 tenants move out Friday. Can’t wait to see what this week brings.

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

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msmolly February 9th, 2009 at 6:07 am
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I am really distressed by FDL writers’ characterization of Krugman as “The Shrill One.” He isn’t shrill, and he’s one of many economists who is probably dead-on correct.

Is there a history with Krugman that I’m unaware of, or is this just (misguided, IMHO) name calling for its own “clever” sake?? Puhleez.

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slide February 9th, 2009 at 6:08 am
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In response to eCAHNomics @ 33

You are right. A meltdown is occurring before our eyes and it is unlikely it can be abated. Consider who Obama has put in charge. Obama is going to be a failure and it will be of his own making. He has betrayed his supporters, all because he has become an elite, looking out for the elite not the public as a whole. This country is in trouble and it is becoming too late to stop the failure runaway train.

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SouthernDragon February 9th, 2009 at 6:09 am
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In response to msmolly @ 45

The nickname comes from an article some wingnut wrote and called him shrill. Here it’s a badge of honour, not disrespect.

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eCAHNomics February 9th, 2009 at 6:10 am
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In response to slide @ 46

No, Obama’s failure is not of his own making. He has had plenty of help from the Rs. He is, however, doing not much to undo the failures that were handed to him.

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selise February 9th, 2009 at 6:11 am
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In response to Bluetoe2 @ 42

Where are the teacher unions, the auto unions, the civil rights organizations, university students, senior groups,et al that could call the people out to meet at the Capitol steps?

trying to mobilize people in support of obama’s policies, or falling into the trap of using right-wing rhetoric (”Buy American”) and calling people like me (who spent my 2003 vacation getting tear gassed and pepper sprayed in miami at the FTAA protests) un-American.

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slide February 9th, 2009 at 6:12 am
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He has, of course, had lots of help from many factions, including the R’s but don’t forget it is Obama and Obama alone who was elected with a mandate, not the R’s.

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SouthernDragon February 9th, 2009 at 6:13 am
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In response to selise @ 49

Did I ever tell you that you’re one of my heroes?

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Bluetoe2 February 9th, 2009 at 6:17 am
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In response to slide @ 46

Exactly. He is at the pinnacle of the plutocracy.

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selise February 9th, 2009 at 6:18 am
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In response to msmolly @ 45

mbmolly the title of “the shrill one” is an honorific with snark meant to show admiration for krugman’s early and consistent columns pointing out that bush’s economic policies were on the order of claiming 2+2=5. it’s all good.

From Brad De Long’s The History of the Shrill:

I guess it started, I think, with that extremely strange and not-very-analytical Svengali of the Bush Social Security reform plan, Peter Ferrara, who wrote back in 2001 about “the fierce, shrill, and unreasoned denunciations of allowing workers the freedom to choose a personal-account option for Social Security may impress the gullible… and denounced ..the highly irascible Paul Krugman…

That was, I think, the start of a very peculiar meme: a piling-on of critics of Bush–especially of Paul Krugman–whose sole criticism was that he was “shrill.” The critique was neither that he was a bad economist, nor that his accusations that the Bush administration was lying about a whole bunch of stuff were incorrect (indeed, one of Paul’s most vicious critics, Andrew Sullivan, gloried in the fact that Bush was lying about his tax cut. See http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/….._sull.html). So if you wanted to attack Krugman, but could not attack him because his analytics were right, and could not attack him because his accusations of Bush administration dishonesty were correct, what can you do?

The accusation–the only line of critique–is that Paul “only sees what’s wrong with the other side, in fairly crude terms,” or–in shorthand–is “shrill.”

God alone knows why they thought this line of attack would do anything other than shred their own reputations. God knows why others took up this line of attack. But take off it did, both as a narrowly-focused attempt to degrade the reputation of Paul Krugman, and as a broader attempt to marginalize all who pointed out that the policies of the Bush administration were (a) stupid, and (b) justified by lies, and it took off both among the yahoos of the right and also among the denizens of the center-left.

Why did it take off? I think the reasons were well laid out by Nick Confessore:

“Comparative Advantage” by Nicholas Confessore: On balance, Krugman’s record stands up pretty well. On the topics he writes about most often and most angrily–tax cuts, Social Security, and the budget–his record is nearly perfect. “The reason he’s gotten under the White House’s skin so much,” says Robert Shapiro, a former undersecretary of commerce in the Clinton administration, “is that he’s right. None of it is rocket science.”.

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msmolly February 9th, 2009 at 6:19 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 47

OKAY, thanks. I hang out here a lot but I must have missed that. And for those who don’t know the history, I think it’s a misguided label. We (along with those on the opposite side of the political fence) tend to make up disparaging names for people we disagree with (a practice my daughter finds objectionable name-calling), but to label Krugman, who is clearly a progressive, “The Shrill One” is gratuitous and misleading to folks who aren’t aware of the wingnut history.

But that’s just my $0.02, FWIW.

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selise February 9th, 2009 at 6:21 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 51

coming from you that means a lot, more than you know. thanks. now i’m going to have to find a way to deserve your kind words, because i surely don’t now.

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msmolly February 9th, 2009 at 6:22 am
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In response to selise @ 53

Thanks, Selise. It is good to know the history. I still don’t like seeing it here, but at least I now understand it.

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rxbusa February 9th, 2009 at 6:24 am
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In response to klynn @ 4

oh most definitely! I’ve been writing a letter to them in my head all weekend, but I can’t stop sputtering. Also have to edit out all the cusswords.

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rxbusa February 9th, 2009 at 6:30 am
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In response to KayInMaine @ 21

Maybe he meant “breakdown” in a different sense.

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SouthernDragon February 9th, 2009 at 6:31 am
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In response to selise @ 55

I’m just another ant in the anthill. By being in Miami you made my list. We had our own thing goin’ on at the time otherwise many of us would have been in Miami with you. Being confronted with the forces the Nazi Chief of Police mobilized was a most courageous act by all. Just keep doin’ what yer doin’.

Teaser. You just might want to move Wobblies and Zapatistas a little closer to the top of your list. *g*

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selise February 9th, 2009 at 6:32 am
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SD – hope you are still here. i almost forgot to tell you, that week was one of my best experiences working with anarchists and included attending a big joint anarchist/pagan ritual after the last spokescouncil meeting at the convergence center the night before the big action. there was other stuff too, like getting help flushing my eyes after getting pepper sprayed, or when a small group of about 80 of us were detained for hours at the site of the last big protest (while some very nice union reps tried to negotiate our release), it was some young person wearing mostly black except for the red A and circle who mobilized us into picking up all trash in the immediate area.

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selise February 9th, 2009 at 6:35 am
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In response to SouthernDragon @ 59

was typing while you posted…. hmmm…*g*. ok, but i’ve got a much of popular progressive economics to read first. please keep reminding me!

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SouthernDragon February 9th, 2009 at 6:38 am
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In response to selise @ 60

Great story. A lot more young people are getting the vibe. They are the future. They certainly help keep my mind alive. I seem to be wearing more black and red lately. *g*

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SouthernDragon February 9th, 2009 at 6:41 am
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In response to selise @ 61

My copy of Krugman’s Depression Economics is supposed to arrive today. Finished Plunder and Blunder. Thucydides and Wobblies are my break from economics.

Colour me gone.

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selise February 9th, 2009 at 6:45 am
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i’ve got a lot of reading to catch up (not that i ever will). have a great day.

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mui1 February 9th, 2009 at 9:42 am
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Army official: Suicides in January ‘terrifying’

– One week after the U.S. Army announced record suicide rates among its soldiers last year, the service is worried about a spike in possible suicides in the new year.

Yes, the war is sickening.

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RevBev February 9th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
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Is that the war we’re winning….where the surge was such a success. Ask the families.

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