From The Hill:
Reid indicated on Friday that the Senate will conference with the House but added, “Remember, we have to have this on the president’s desk before the Presidents Day recess.”
Lieberman noted that White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel helped iron out the Senate compromise, saying, “He spoke very strongly in favor of it.”Emanuel, a former House leadership member, appears to have been more of a factor in crafting the Senate bill than the House-passed legislation. Before the House vote, Emanuel invited a group of centrist House Republicans to the White House, but his pitch for the bill fell short.
Since the election, Pelosi has sent signals to Emanuel to respect the boundaries between the executive and legislative branches.Raising some eyebrows on Capitol Hill, Rep. Jim Cooper (D-Tenn.) last week said on Liberadio that he “got some quiet encouragement from the Obama folks for what I’m doing. They know it’s a messy bill and they wanted a clean bill.” Cooper, who voted against the House bill, later backtracked, saying no one on Obama’s staff encouraged him to vote against the stimulus.
House Democrats expressed frustration with the Senate throughout the 110th Congress, bowing to the Senate’s version of bills on a range of issues, including the Alternative Minimum Tax patch and the $700-billion financial rescue package.
Pelosi has spent some political capital moving the stimulus bill quickly through the House, which triggered complaints from several of her subcommittee chairmen.
Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Pa.), a subcommittee chairman on the influential Financial Services Committee, publicly ripped the House stimulus and was one of 11 Democrats to reject the bill on the floor.
At the House Democratic retreat on Saturday morning in Williamsburg, Va., Pelosi suggested lawmakers will focus on the similarities in the two bills “and then get down to the finer points.”
She added, “I am certain that the president will be signing [legislation] before Presidents Day.”
Liberals in the House are already making noise that they might vote against the conference bill if it mirrors the Senate legislation.Rep. Ed Pastor (D-Ariz.), a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said last week, “Many of us may not support it in the House" if the Senate makes "so many changes," such as adding more tax breaks and cutting spending provisions, which is what the Senate did.
Compared to the House measure, the Senate bill scales back the subsidy to help cover health insurance for workers who have lost their jobs. The House legislation included $40 billion to subsidize healthcare coverage through the COBRA program. In the Senate compromise, there is roughly $20 billion.
The Senate compromise also pares back education funds substantially from the bill that passed the House. The Senate draft includes $13.9 billion for Pell Grants to help pay for college tuition, while the bill that passed the House seeks $15.6 billion.
In the House, Democrats included $79 billion for fiscal relief to the states, including $39 billion for local school districts and public colleges and universities.
However, the compromise in the Senate nearly halves that amount to $39 billion in fiscal relief, including roughly $27 billion for local school districts and colleges. The Senate compromise also halves to $1 billion the amount of money for the Head Start program.
The Senate bill also cuts $3.5 billion from the House version that seeks $20 billion for nutrition assistance programs.
Looks like conference is gonna be a dilly.



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Can it really be? “In Pelosi we trust?”
oy!
I’d rather have this than nothing…that said…. we need to lean on Obama to get our real objects into law and financed. He said we will need to force him and we should keep that in mind and react accordingly.
Go Pelosi! ???
Does anyone know how Futuregen (the big coal processing boondoggle) that I believe is supposed to be built in Mattoon Illinois, or Exelon’s energy designs, might be or might not be bolstered by the Stimulus?
Even with all her problems, I’d take Pelosi over Rahm Emmanual any time. The man in a rat.
The sun rises in the east, Jane’s on top of the bullshit.
Rahm E = public goddamn freakin enemy #1.
Summers says Obama will fight to reinstitute state aid:
http://www.google.com/hostedne…..l5Sn6_ivVA
If what I’ve been reading that sez the US only has the capacity/political space for one more major stimulus bill is true, then I’d like to see the House kill this bill in conference.
With over two trillion of demand loss to overcome, let Obama come out and push a new bill: maybe even one big enough to stop Great Depression II and distributed enough to bring popular support.
And I’d like a pony.
I read somewhere that only eight Blue Dogs needed to peel off for the House bill to fail the last time around. Does that mean, all other things being equal, that we need only eight Progressive Caucus or CBC members to peel off for the bill to fail this time?
And why are we presuming a Conference, even though DWS thinks there will be one? Isn’t it just as likely the Senate will simply adjourn after passing the Collinsville fiasco, leaving the House to pass it as it stands?
Nancy must have been spending time in the gym. Heavy lifting! This is getting interesting.
Let’s hope it turns out reasonably. I almost said well, but no matter how they resolve this the amount will be too small, it seems.
I’ll really upset if Someone (ahem) does not rein him in pretty damn soon.
Never thought I’d say this after my Congresswoman took impeachment off the table, but nowadays,
It does make one wonder what was going on there to keep her muzzled.
I can’t believe the level of ingratitude that FDL’ers show for
Rahm Emmanuel, The Man Who Won the House Back in 2006™.
If a pissing war develops between Rahm and Pelosi, we’re going to be in for a rough 8yrs.
Rahm speaks for the administration, unfortunately. If Rahm says it, Obama wants him to say it.
Good thing she kept her powder dry for the last 8 years./s
They’re still keeping that fucking powder dry. Someone better use that powder quick before it blows away.
Pelosi was playing politics that last couple of years. She wanted a bigger majority and the White House. She got it. There was a price.
Is it possible that part of what is going on with Pelosi is a battle over who gets what projects/benefits in their particular states out of the Bill?
In 1993 Clinton needed 50 votes to pass his economic plan. The 50th vote came after Bob Kerrey was virtually beaten into it. The 50-50 tie was then broken by VP Al Gore.
Today the country is in far greater economic peril than in 1993. Virtually everyone agrees time is of the essence. Yet, despite this, Obama needs 60 votes to pass this stimulus legislation.
Why? The GOP is threatening a filibuster.
Obama should call them on it. I doubt they would actually do so and, if they were so bold and foolish, it would fail within 96 hours.
If 60 votes is the new number, we aren’t going to get any meaningful change. This 60 vote strategy needs to be smashed now. This is our best and perhaps last chance for doing so.
Good.
Cutting out the 50 billion for (more) useless nuke subidies lets Obama restore the state subsidies: with 10 million left over.
When would the Senate adjourn until? If I were Pelosi, I’d throw it right back at the Senate. Tell them to eat the shit sandwich. Besides, they can’t say anything worse about her than what has been said already.
Yes. What are they waiting for? Complete collapse?
‘Zactly.
I agree – if they don’t force the issue the republicans will be able to have it both ways. A stimulus bill, but no responsibility. If it comes down the wire, they won’t have the guts to filibuster.
Geez, I hope this was snark.
Bob in HI
But why can’t the conference make a better bill? If the result of the conference looks more like the House bill than the Senate bill, my understanding is that it can’t be filibustered or amended in the Senate; it only needs a majority vote. So even if all the Republicans as well as Lieberman and a couple of conservative Democrats vote against, it still passes. Right?
it’s not just the GOPers who would be nullified, but the D leading moderates too… and that will not happen with Leader Reid in charge… plus the fact there seems to be no leadership of the progressive cause ready to make waves… certainly not in the senate.
Pelosi has gained…not spent political capital in my opinion. It’s a tough spot to be in and I don’t envy her. Take what you can get or chance blowing the whole thing out of the water.
futuregen is intact in the senate bill minus $1 billion. Dunno about the House bill. Shame. It’s a hoax.
A price? Yeah, its called a Faustian bargain. Nancy sold her soul.
Bob in HI
Have they announced who the conferees will be?
That will tell us more about what the final conference bill will look like.
she has a unique opportunity to salvage her rep with her base (which is very different than Obama’s centrist
base), and assert herself as a voice for progressives in genrral and California liberals in particular. I hope she has the spine to take it and follow through.
Have we forgotten those who oppose a president are traitors?
Wonder? With the cabal in charge? She could have been arrested on false charges of anything at all and water-tortured.
Does Cheney still have access to everyone’s communications in his new office?
She and her allies — the Progressive Caucus and the Black Caucus — need to drive the debate now. Get on the airwaves or, if denied, make a stink. The cuts to kids, states, education, health care must be restored.
Also (as Sarah Palin used to say!) jobs creation!
oh not to worry.. we have traitors aplenty here.. Coburn, Cornyn, Vitter, McConnell, Lieberman….
I doubt very much his embedded myrmidons at the NSA at other intelligence-gathering outfits have shut down their operations. Do you?
Blub – Do you know if Futuregen is what Cassidy and Assoc. including Kai Anderson (an ex-Reid staffer) had been hired by the state of Illinois to lobby for?
http://thehill.com/business…..01-22.html
I disagree. Who gave Jim Cooper encouragement?
Yes, and there are other cuts that would make up a significant part of the needed stimulus, I’m guessing.
I think the TM worked as /s!
sorry. I don’t follow lobby politics anymore. I know Cassidy & Assoc was hired by Blago, of all people, to
lobby for futuregen (Which is backed by coal companies like Peabody and BHP) and that this unholy alliance had lined up/bought Dick Durban’s support, but all this is old news.
No doubt they are working according to plan. Question is, does he still have access to WH communications? And Whitehousers no matter where they are. I know Obama has top techies, but I worry. I always worry.
The Senate disproportionally represents rural America. I see the cuts in state aid as a byproduct of this- I assume most of this aid would have ended up trying to fill in the big-state budgets that are now crating- although it would be useful to know exactly how this aid is supposed to be doled out. So it’s no skin off of say Ben Nelson’s hide that California’s projected budget deficit is six times the size of his state’s total budget, because he only has to speak for the 1.7 million people in his state.0 The California population is close to 40 million, but hey, we only get 2 votes in the Senate.
I know it sounds obvious, but the Senate seems to be forgetting that the stimulus money NEEDS TO GO WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE. The house needs to restore a good chunk of the state aid cuts, or else we will just end up treading water at best because the states will be laying off huge amounts of workers unless their budgets get boosted.
Remember? I said to give her a chance now that Emmanuels foot is off her neck. I been watching her since the 111th was seated and she was against the tax cuts from the beginning.
We’ll see if she can pull the house Dems together. I hope to all the forgotten gods and goddesses that she can.
In the meantime, keep those calls and letters going. The Senate doesn’t know that actual well paid WORK produces prosperity.
The House may have a clue.
Michael Steele doesn’t even understand what a job is.
which is kind of mutual on the part of the party he purports to represent, since most of the bigot rethug rank-and-file has a hard to grasping the concept of a African-American male holding a job, much less bein’ the boss of them. He’s going to have a long and successful career as the first African-American had of the Klan.
“head of the Klan” and “hard time grasping”.. iphone again.
Thanks Jane.
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LOL! In his mind, many near-disasters were averted by his GOP-lite approach. In addition to all of those Dems he got into Congress (with that dastardly Howard Dean trying to take the credit for it, darn him!), if he hadn’t strong-armed the Dems to cave on nearly every important Bush bill, who knows where the Dems would be politically. Backbones are so overrated.
Right. It’s only a job if it’s forever. Does Steel even bonk his forehead when he makes statements like this?
Spiny – I agree completely – having finally just read the first 150 or so pages. Wherein lie all the usual pork things that are red meat to the Republicans. WTF does the Forest Service need 450 million (or whatever) for fire – to impose Bush’s Healthy Forests on steroids? All kinds of BuRec crap that seems sinisterly like more more dam building. WHY does the Central Utah Project need a dime to do more damage to the waters of the West? AND I am very fearful of what will happen with the BPA and WAPA funding, too.
We need to control the allocation of stilulus:
if you don’t vote for it – No money to your state or district.
The hyprocites are the ones voting against it and expecting money.
Call me dumb…but isn’t it true that once the bill is returned from the Conference that there is no debate…that it’s an up-or-down vote on the renegotiation? Thus there cannot be a filibuster? 50 votes would pass it in the Senate.
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
The way I read this the Republicans in the Senate can DEBATE the reconciliation, but they are limited to 10 hours…then it goes up for a staright majority vote. So unless the Senate Republicans can block it now…on the original vote…it’s a lot clearer sailing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U….._committee
How about we stop calling them “liberals” and start calling them “realists”? I haven’t heard a right-wing Republican or Democrat tell the truth in years. As Harry Truman put it, he never gave anybody hell (although opinions vary on that one) he just told the truth on people and they THOUGHT it was hell.
What is wrong with Dana Milbank. This little piece, especially the part quoting Liarman’s little jocularisms, rings like something out of the 90s.