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	<title>Comments on: Rahm Throws Pelosi Under The Bus To Save Stimulus Bill</title>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/05/rahm-throws-pelosi-under-the-bus-to-save-stimulus-bill/#comment-1819913</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;We are a group of idiots led by clowns.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’ll go with the clowns any day.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Say, isn’t Rahm supposed to be a lion tamer? If I could collar him I’d tell him to spread the word that we’re gonna get this stimulus bill passed and claim victory.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nancy, front and center!&lt;br /&gt;
Nancy: Yes?&lt;br /&gt;
Did you lard up that stimulus bill?&lt;br /&gt;
Nancy: Yes I did.&lt;br /&gt;
Well alright then, back to work.&lt;br /&gt;
Heh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We are a group of idiots led by clowns.</p>
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<p>I’ll go with the clowns any day.</p>
<p>Say, isn’t Rahm supposed to be a lion tamer? If I could collar him I’d tell him to spread the word that we’re gonna get this stimulus bill passed and claim victory.</p>
<p>Nancy, front and center!<br />
Nancy: Yes?<br />
Did you lard up that stimulus bill?<br />
Nancy: Yes I did.<br />
Well alright then, back to work.<br />
Heh.</p>
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		<title>By: constantweader</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/05/rahm-throws-pelosi-under-the-bus-to-save-stimulus-bill/#comment-1819861</link>
		<dc:creator>constantweader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry, I don’t believe 95% of the skullduggery nonsense, &amp; I’m a cynic. Obama &amp; Emanuel are dependent upon Pelosi. They’re not going to throw her to the wolves the first time out of the gate. That’s not Obama’s style, anyway. It might be Rahm’s, but he’s worked closely with Pelosi, so it would be ultra-crappy to take swipes at her now. Besies, at least one local Nashville blogger says Jim Cooper is a famous liar, &amp; his assertion seems fairly nonsensical. I think the major-player Democrats are working together to get this bill thru in the best form they can.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m just waiting to see what Joe Weasel Lieberman does.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Constant Weader at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.RealityChex.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.RealityChex.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I don’t believe 95% of the skullduggery nonsense, &amp; I’m a cynic. Obama &amp; Emanuel are dependent upon Pelosi. They’re not going to throw her to the wolves the first time out of the gate. That’s not Obama’s style, anyway. It might be Rahm’s, but he’s worked closely with Pelosi, so it would be ultra-crappy to take swipes at her now. Besies, at least one local Nashville blogger says Jim Cooper is a famous liar, &amp; his assertion seems fairly nonsensical. I think the major-player Democrats are working together to get this bill thru in the best form they can.</p>
<p>I’m just waiting to see what Joe Weasel Lieberman does.</p>
<p>The Constant Weader at <a href="http://www.RealityChex.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.RealityChex.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/05/rahm-throws-pelosi-under-the-bus-to-save-stimulus-bill/#comment-1819694</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why do GOP senators want to say No to their own governors and mayors and all the folks back home. Just curious?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Because they don’t give them as much money as banks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why do GOP senators want to say No to their own governors and mayors and all the folks back home. Just curious?</p>
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<p>Because they don’t give them as much money as banks.</p>
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		<title>By: FreedomNow</title>
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		<dc:creator>FreedomNow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And the policy worked for FDR…that was HIS way of getting out of the Depression…after all the other things didn’t work.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the policy worked for FDR…that was HIS way of getting out of the Depression…after all the other things didn’t work.</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/05/rahm-throws-pelosi-under-the-bus-to-save-stimulus-bill/#comment-1819680</link>
		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, I should have known you pups were on it.  the video is upstairs for anyone who missed it.  Just trying to cross reference and all that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I should have known you pups were on it.  the video is upstairs for anyone who missed it.  Just trying to cross reference and all that.</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
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		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why do GOP senators want to say No to their own governors and mayors and all the folks back home.  Just curious?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do GOP senators want to say No to their own governors and mayors and all the folks back home.  Just curious?</p>
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		<title>By: dosido</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/05/rahm-throws-pelosi-under-the-bus-to-save-stimulus-bill/#comment-1819674</link>
		<dc:creator>dosido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey, this post just referenced by Shuster this a.m.!! woot!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, this post just referenced by Shuster this a.m.!! woot!</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Hamsher</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/05/rahm-throws-pelosi-under-the-bus-to-save-stimulus-bill/#comment-1819672</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Hamsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’ll grant you that it’s probably not as bad as many have made it out to be, but even Nate admits it has eroded.  Obama is not in the Washington Post and on my TV selling the bill today for nothing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’ll grant you that it’s probably not as bad as many have made it out to be, but even Nate admits it has eroded.  Obama is not in the Washington Post and on my TV selling the bill today for nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Hamsher</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/05/rahm-throws-pelosi-under-the-bus-to-save-stimulus-bill/#comment-1819665</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Hamsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He would so clean me out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He would so clean me out.</p>
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		<title>By: acquarius74</title>
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		<dc:creator>acquarius74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 18:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hugh,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;We need a stimulus that is spending-oriented to create jobs&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;IMO, putting people to work is the elephant in the room.  It should come now, not after it’s too late.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I saw a PBS program about China’s building the biggest dam in the world on the Yangtze River (The 3 Gorges Dam).  It will produce 9 times as much electricity as our Hoover Dam (built in the Great Depression and put thousands to work).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And the total cost (per PBS) of China’s big dam??  $25 BILLION.  That is 1/28 of the $700 billion TARP that vanished into a black hole and so far has produced nothing that I can discern.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So, if we built an electricity producing dam somewhere….say at the confluence of the Missouri River and the Mississippi River (where the huge floods occur) there would be much benefit produced in many areas.  Yeah, being America it would probably cost 3 times the one in China; still only $75 Billion - a drop in the bucket compared to the Billions poured into the ever-hungry banksters greedy paws.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh,</p>
<blockquote><p>We need a stimulus that is spending-oriented to create jobs</p>
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<p>IMO, putting people to work is the elephant in the room.  It should come now, not after it’s too late.</p>
<p>I saw a PBS program about China’s building the biggest dam in the world on the Yangtze River (The 3 Gorges Dam).  It will produce 9 times as much electricity as our Hoover Dam (built in the Great Depression and put thousands to work).</p>
<p>And the total cost (per PBS) of China’s big dam??  $25 BILLION.  That is 1/28 of the $700 billion TARP that vanished into a black hole and so far has produced nothing that I can discern.</p>
<p>So, if we built an electricity producing dam somewhere….say at the confluence of the Missouri River and the Mississippi River (where the huge floods occur) there would be much benefit produced in many areas.  Yeah, being America it would probably cost 3 times the one in China; still only $75 Billion &#8211; a drop in the bucket compared to the Billions poured into the ever-hungry banksters greedy paws.</p>
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