Once in near-decline, the town of Farmland (pop 1,400) had been resurrected thanks in good part to the efforts and boosterism of Jerome Herron who moved back to his hometown with his partner Larry Francer. Working with the town’s nonprofit arm, Historic Farmland USA, the couple developed promotional events and economic strategies to highlight the town’s charms. Seeing the progress and economic recovery Farmland has made, many residents are outraged when they learn that their county commissioners have voted to tear down the historic Beaux Arts courthouse.
Discussing the issue in their mother’s kitchen one morning, Jerome, his sister Angela Soper and Larry come up with a plan to save the courthouse, and then recruit their mom’s bridge club to execute it. And as Jerome points out, what better way to highlight the elegance beauty and dignity of an old building than by showcasing the same charms held by older women? Says one:
Go for it, go for it! Show ‘em we might be old, but we aren’t dead.
So the “girls” as everyone calls them, ranging in age from 77 to 93, sweetly disrobe for a calendar–their bits strategically hidden by porcelain models of the courthouse–to both the support and dismay of the community, which is described as the shiny buckle on the Bible Belt. One of the churches wants to expel three of the models who are members, while a hospital chaplain congratulates them and offers a $20 donation.
The controversy mounts adding fuel to the fire over the demolition of courthouse, already a hot button issue dividing the county. One model becomes estranged from her daughter over her posing, while the stopping demolition inspires a townswoman to run for office.
And in the midst of it is writer/director Norman Klein whose efforts to get interviews with pro-demolition supporters reaches near-comic heights.
Courthouse Girls of Farmland shows the importance of preserving America’s historic rural towns which are unique snapshots of the way we were and can still be vital and vibrant. Additionally, and just as importantly, the film shows the unique beauty and value of senior citizen who in our youth obsessed culture are often overlooked. The wit, verve and humor these girls show are a life inspiration, as much as is the social activism in which they participate.
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Welcome, Larry Angela and Norm–-forces behind Courthouse Girls of Farmland
How are the girls? HOw are you and thanks for visiting us!
Just a quick reminder for our readers, please stay on topic!
Greetings Firedoglakers …. Angela Soper here. I am the daughter of Miss October and one of the crazy people responsible for this film.
I loved this film — and the ladies were an absolute hoot. Good for them! Thanks so much for bringing their story to all of us.
Glad to be aboard
wait, so is there a 2009 calendar–and if so how can we order it?
Christy you are most welcome. happy to hear you liked it
I believe the girls are fine. Two of them are heading for a screening in Normal, IL tomorrow night with Larry, Jerome and my sister, Anne.
We do have a 2009 calendar and you can order it from our web site, http://www.courthousegirls.com, which is another experience in amusement. :)
I was really impressed with how Jerome and Larry stepped up to the plate in Farmland and really got things moving in terms of economic development. That was so awesome!
Larry, sell Lisa a calender so we can make ends meet
Hi,
Larry is here. Sorry I’m (as usual, just ask Jerome)late.
That was a touchy issue for us, to be honest with you. Norm and I felt we should highlight all of the work Jerome and Larry have done, yet we had to tread carefully since they were involved in making the film. But truly, the town was really in sad shape until Jerome and Larry bought the old hotel and turned it into this fabulous gift shop. And people realized you could change a situation.
Norm, you were certainly a fish out of water–I felt like I was watching something akin to Waiting for Guffman whenever you had to deal with the pro demolition forces
We are even talking about a 2010 calendar which will be a re-release of the original. Lisa, you can either go to the website or call our shop at 765.468.6958. And thanks for the complement about stepping up to the plate (but I’m not a big football fan!). Ha.
Is this movie going to take the place of Hoosiers as the quintessential movie that epitomizes life in Indiana?
[question asked by a native small town Kentuckian]
Oh my, if only we could have that much financial success. I do think people get a real good view of small town life in Indiana. Some of my friends have talked about the lace tablecloths and just the look of the homes.
Larry, sokay, I thought the Heisman was a trophy for hockey. How is your shop doing, and how are the events you launched like Fright in Farmland doing?
It was very strange. Those favoring demo were quick to complain about ‘the girls’ and all the attention the calender was getting. However, when I sincerely offered to give the an opportunity to express their side of the story the wanted no part of it. To tell you the truth, was happy to feel like a fish out of water.
Living in WV as I do, it was like peeking into the lives of folks in my own town. Can’t say enough about how great this film was — the humor is awesome, but the spunk of the ladies is even better.
That would great, but it ain’t gonna happen.
Jerome said he was sorry he couldn’t be here for this interview, but he didn’t have a metal shield to wear while sitting in front of the #!##*!! computer.
The courthouse was sooo lovely, to lose such a piece of history in exchange for some ugly office building–what were people thinking? I though it was pretty telling that the supervisors didn’t mention who had done the cost breakdown that it would just as thrift to build a new court house as to save the old…
From the start to this day, I’m still impressed with the “girls” They are a a trip!
Business is pretty awful but we’re trying lots of new things like a great new website, http://www.tanglevinecrossing.com and I’m also doing some consulting on saving small towns (hope to get Jerome involved, too.
Larry and Norm, carry this for a moment. My hysterial Jack Russell is demanding something. She’s the dog in the movie, by the way. A diva full tilt. back in a sec.
I got the feeling ‘the fix’ was in for some of the commissioners. They wanted it to go down so let’s organize our lack of facts and make it happen.
How do I keep getting everyone’s responses?
Hit refresh, Larry
We tried to get a real investigative newspaper article, because we all wondered that as well. But couldn’t get anyone to do it.
Yup, that old pup is a handful
Refresh PC = F5 MAC = CMD R (Apple R)
for the computer illiterate, where is refresh?
It was like someone with a construction business was behind it…it was really weird that one of the ladies in the historical society was all for tearing it down
Larry up at the top of the web page it look like a curvy arrow
Refresh PC = F5 MAC = CMD R (Apple R)
I’m back. Nature called. A filmmaker friend told me we should really pursue this angle, and I said “no.” We were dealing with family dynamics (more on that later if you want) and I’m not that kind of reporter/filmmaker (at least wasn’t then) so I didn’t want to go down that road. Not sure we could have proved anything anyway.
Still don’t understand how to hit refresh. sorry
Larry, I’ll call you at Anne’s. :)
What the commissioner did, or tried to do, is being done to us everyday by politicians. Local, state, fed, it doesn’t matter. The do because they can get away with it, or so they have. We have to change before they ever will
These ladies were pretty brave given the force of criticism leveled at them after the fact, so inspirational that they di what they felt was right…and what a true visin of beauty and dignity they showed
Kentucky has had a building boom for new County Courthouses but I think they have tended to keep the old ones as well.
It really is distressing the number of people who prefer to destroy the history and character of a town.
Where is the courthouse fund right now, and wasnt there an election coming up for supervisor?
Thanks for the update, but kindly stay on topic.
YUP. Who ever heard of the head of a historical society wanting the most precious piece of art the town or county has wanting it torn down. She was from outer space or some other time and space me thinks
Should I explain the connection there or will I get in trouble, Larry?
The whole thing smelled really weird..I mean here is this gorgeous building with murals and history… Speaking of history, where’s the closest WalMart to Randolph County?
Actually we lost one of our pro-courthouse commissioners and got 2 I don’t know whats. But they swear they want to preserve it. They just didn’t like our idea (compromise) for an addition. So we are starting over again. We’re keeping an eye on them though.
The fund was used to keep a lawyer on hand to fight if we needed it. We’ve started a new fund to replace the mansard roof and clock tower but have a long way to go.
Aside for some structural and cosemtic stuff, what was the big complaint about the courthouse? too small, not ADA compliant..?
The people in the historical society who wanted to tear it down said it had lost its historical significance because the mansard roof and clock tower had been removed in the early fifties. A thin argument to some of us.
There’s a WalMart in Winchester on the highway about a mile from the courthouse. Luckily, Farmland is too small and safe
Stay On It Larry, they’ll try again you wait and see. Your Congressmen Pence is 3rd Republican on the totem in the house on the stimulus issue. Tell him you want money to repair the building. It will create some jobs around town
No good reasons except out with the old and in with the new!
We’ll have to get sister Anne to ask her idol Pence (who doesn’t believe in Global warming).
I believe they had to be promised something in exchange for that stance. Perhaps there beloved clock tower on the new building.
Some of the people most upset about saving the courthouse were the “real courthouse girls,” the women who work in the building. They thought their lives were in danger. My uncle went in to pay his taxes and wore a hardhat, and said if it was so dangerous he wanted to be protected. They were not amused.
I spend a lot of summers in Hiawatha KS which is the county seat, and they set up an historical museum in the basement of the courthouse and charged like 50 cents (this was a while a go) to look at cool old stuff…we donated my grandmother’s wringer washer, and a kiddie pull cart plus some baby clothes from the 1930s
That’s tough because by that measure, no building could ever be preserved since few of them of an age haven’t had some changes due to repair and such
ADA was part of the problem. Security was another. But a good portion of the building around the square are either empty of certainly underutilized. Acquire one of those and renovate and move some functions like records over there making more space in the old courthouse.
Is it still a working courthouse, Lisa?
That seems to be the plan now
Tearing it down serves no purpose, saving and reporposing it does…in the same vein sort of, I was realy impressed wiht the way some many older peole in small towns are much perky and involved socially (and as you show politically) that in larger cities…thre seems ot be less warehousing and more more active family and cultural involvement
No one even commented about Jerome’s computer phobia (or should I say hatred).
You know, the pols have no problem putting your kids in trailers to go to school, while they keep their butts in lap of luxury. Just an observation.
ADA was the reason they built a new Courthouse in my hometown. Of course, they screwed it up when they failed to make it accessible, had to build a lift then wound up getting sued because the lift was not being staffed during the needed hours of operation.
Local governments can make some extremely poor decisions sometimes.
I think that may be because they are so close to it, have lived around it for so long. With our courthouse, all of those women and many other people, had generations of records in that building. So I think people in small areas feel far more connected than those who live in large cities.
Larry, last tie I was in Hiawatha, whihc was a while ago, yes, it was a working courthouse. Since boht my dad and grandmother died I havent kept up wiht Kansas much..I know they got a Wal Mart and a best western though! The former really shuttered Mians Street, the 5 &10 cent store, the drug store wiht a fountain….all gone last I was there
But if the courthouse can remain a courthouse and keep the county business in the courthouse square, that does a lot to save that area.
Congratulations on doing something really important. Saving older buildings is saving our history and renovation radically reduces the environmental cost of construction. Here in Peterborough, Ontario we lost one beautiful building (a bank replaced a beautiful hundred year old building with a modern functional ugly building over people’s protests), but ever since then the whole downtown has been preserved with many, many buildings renovated and beautified.
You have done a wonderful thing.
Larry, we are all a little odd here, so it doesnt bother us that he doesnt care for computers..however tell him while his charm and wit are missed, y’all are holding your own quite nicely without him!!!
Idiocy is not confined to local governments. bad decisions are often what they’re best at
I think that’s one reason our film is so popular – because people hate that the WalMarts are killing there towns or even the memories in/of these towns. People really do want to save the memories, but need to be proactive (even from a distance) to truly save the actual town.
we are all on our best behavior for movie night.
i love the grassroots nature of your quest to save the courthouse. the video up top of the page is great. thank you for bringing this story to us.
Oh, the stories we could tell about my darling brother. But, question: may I ask a question related to marketing the film?
Developers are basically ‘dirt pimps.’ Since you wouldn’t trust your daughter with a pimp, why trust the future of your city, town, or neighborhood to one.
The documentary Crawford whihc launched movie night here was about a small ton that gets a POTUS and experiences a brief boom until the was escalated and Bush’s popularity drops…small towns have t rough and I think some see globalized retailers as an option ot boost the economy, often short sighted , turnng once interestig places into cookie cutters
Angela–yes ask away…
Where are you from, Suzanne. And where do you live now?
No Jerome stories, this a family blog! Just kidding
I know this is off topic and I’ll stop, but just have to say I think we should send all of the Gitmo prisoners they release to Bush’s ranch in Crawford. Okay, I’m done.
I agree about the short sightedness of Global retailing being the savior to the small town. We have to get people to experience the magic of the small town, in person to save them.
Just want to say that if anyone here tonight would like to hold a special event, especially if it’s for historic preservation, we are glad to give permission to show the film. Some groups have used it as a fundraiser and shown the movie in historic buildings.
I’m with on that, but let’s not forget Darth Vader
Ahahahah…nice one Angela, but Bush isn’t likely to come back there–he’s moved to a gated community in Dallas. Farmland seems sorta weird and quirky and fun and cool except for the uptight religious folks..Larry what prompted you and Jerome to move back there?
And we love to take the”Girls” to these events if we can. They were the hit of Breckenridge, our darling Courthouse Girls.
Angela, I will let the Art Deco Society of Los Angeles know that…thank you.
Angela et al: Who would get the contract for a) tearing it down and b) rebuilding it? Therein lies the answer as to who wants it gone, and why.
Jerome’s brother-in law was ill and his Dad wasn’t doing too well, either. Our acting careers weren’t doing much and our grapevine business was. So we moved.
I don’t think I’ve ever been through Farmland, IN but if it is anything like the small town I grew up in, at some point, it was a probably an example of micro-economics with multiple of stores of the same type in competition with each other.
WalMart has really destroyed a lot of that. And that may be why folks feel they don’t have the connection to the old courthouse because they don’t have the vibrant downtown area surrounding the courthouse with the variety of businesses.
My thoughts exactly and then some.
It would have to be bid out since we were using state funds. But kick-back is another thing.
Larry should answer that; I am not sure.
That’s kinda what I was hinting about–follow the money. Transparency would be required. Did your efforts/efforts of the Courthouse Girls make more people aware of the issue, and if so what side did they come down on?
navy brat so i’m from all over – spent my adult years in california’s bay area and am now retired and enjoying life on the oregon coast.
I agree. But if they look to Farmland as an example and see how vibrant the town can be – then I think they’d pray for the courthouse to be the beginning of the economic reemergence of the courthouse square. Am I asking too much?
Walmart has taken advantage of every community’s greed to expand its’ tax base. But in the end is may cost you more dollars than you take in.
Email me later. My husband and I are looking for a great place to land in our drooling years.
As we said in the film – if it wasn’t for the Courthouse Girls the building would have been down. They got the state, actually the country riled up about it. It was 85% for saving it.
awesome! and do the supervisors have the final say, or the people?
So you never spent much time in small towns? Just wondering who loves our film. If being from a small town makes a difference.
I think people got caught up in the emotion of it all and just thought renovating the old building was too much bother. Some people cannot see the connection between grand old architecture and character. That’s why some people in Farmland let their building fall apart. Then they saw how elegant Jerome’s and Larry’s old building was when they fixed it up and restored its character, which helped them attract customers, etc. And yes, the calendar brought the issue into the public eye. I believe 10,000 people signed a petition (before the calendar) to save the building, and aren’t there only 20,000 people in the county (counting children)?
thank you for permission to use my moderator powers and use your email address angela.
Well. the commissioners and Council. But we have gotten the public to demand change before, so they know what they are up against.
mainly a city girl but now enjoying small town life.
i think your film has appeal to everyone, city folk to small town folk can learn how to use your outside the box thinking to effect change in their community.
Walmart sells us stuff for ‘less’ that’s made in China, so we go into debt to buy stuff, so money has to be borrowed from China to float the debt, and around and around it goes. Experts say we have spend our way out of this recession, isn’t that what got us into to this? Of course when we got out of this mess, we’ll have to start saving more, which means buying less. Does anyone see the dog chasing its tail in all this?
I’d like Norm to comment about his involvement. Larry and I were really having a hard time getting people to talk to us (those who wanted to tear down the courthouse and those opposed to the calendar). Norm had some trouble, but eventually got those featured in the film to talk. We owe him a lot for that because I think the film would have been awful without those opposing views. so, thanks, Norm.
I always say that Angela and I did a lot of work, but Norm turned our project into a real film.
Anyone still there?
yes yes..I think were waiting for Norm to discuss how he got involved!
Thanks Angela. People from the Midwest (WASP) tend to be pretty restrained, reserves, and avoid controversy when ever possible, particularly in public. Despite the fact many were seething underneath and would say pretty nasty things to me privately, nobody wanted on camera. Like I told them, I don’t have a dog in this fight, I can see both sides of the issue- especially the calender tempest so tell me how you feel and why. No dice! The truth is: the only thing worse then turning a camera on someone is pulling a gun.
still here larry – there is an ebb and flow to the comments at the lake – sometimes the waters are still but then then will be a buncha comments.
So religious folks were pretty outspoken…
do you think it was because of a fear of their neighbors knowing what they really thought?
I think religion played a large part as well. Many of the people most upset consider themselves to be highly religious–faithful Christians. One guy told a reporter (Historical Society man who did a huge historical project about Farmland and wanted to tear down the courthouse) that he was a “good Quaker and a good Republican.” He would create waves in the paper by writing letters to the editor and he would say nasty things about the women and probably Jeorme, Larry and me behind our backs, but he wasn’t going to talk on camera. Interesting.
Not all. Mostly people from the Friends church (isn’t that odd with their name?). And not on camera (as Norm said).
They were outspoken privately more so than publicly I think. The people who went to the three women’s houses and demanded that they repent would not talk to us on camera. And maybe they did feel they would be perceived as irrational. Who knows.
I did think it was weird that the Quakers were pretty uptight about it since we have this image of Quakers as cool abolitionists…
Angela came to (like a vision) not seriously with her vision and Larry’s for a film. I said sounds like a good premise, but you’d better move back there and spend a lot to time shooting. Well that was not possible for Angela, but her and Larry did the best they could with what they could get their hands on. Angela asked to me edit what they had in the can. I said give to my editor and let him do to keep the cost down. He came back to me and said he didn’t think there was enough material for a hour long doc. I looked it over some and agreed. Next stop Farmland for a week in January and see what I could get to finish the story line.
Remember Nixon was a quaker!
Yup! But the Friends church in Farmland is an odd duck. They actually wanted to integrate communion into the services!!! And other Friends preachers didn’t have any problem with it.
You all did an awesome job capturing the feel of the town and the issues. It was perfect! And I am happy it is so well received..and my what awesome ladies the girls are!
Did the one lady ever have a reconciliation with her daughter who was so upset over the calendar?
You all might enjoy this bit of information: apparently the Friends Church guy who led the march on the women got mad at church one day about not getting to sit where he usually sits and left the church.
And the minister has apologized to the women; three times I think. I’m sure he’s embarrassed about having been part of the lynch mob mentality.
There was more than one, but I don’t think so
Not really. She moved to Washington state with the daughter in the doc. She seems good there.
She now lives in Oregon; don’t know what the deal is with her daughter who I think is still in Farmland. They probably just don’t talk about it. Isn’t that the way small town people deal with issues? (
That’s right oregon.
well, the three of us are certainly on the same page, aren’t we? :)
Heh … no one commented on our credits at the end!
What page is that.
Yikes.. we are pretty much out of time..you can find the new and very socillay relevant Courthouse Girls calendar at courthousegirls.com where you can also order copies of the film/
Angela, Larry and Norm thank you so much do ecoming by and and for making Courthouse Girls. and please give the computerphobic Jerome our thanks and best wishes too! And love and thanks to the girls too!!
Just saw Milk (great!) and I think Gus saw our film and stole our idea for his credits – he had shots of the actors with shots of the real people they were portraying
Angela, we don’t stack up against the ‘girls.” Our appearance was anti climatic!
And Angela, the end credits cracked me and my friend up as we watched it..
Entirely my pleasure. Peace, prosperity and happiness to you all. Best, Angela
Good night one and all and Thanks
It’s been fun. Thank you
ADIOS
thanks for bringing this film to our attention lisa.