The perfect may be the enemy of the good, but the bad has lots of friends among the worse. Right now that’s the situation with the stimulus bill that the House has passed, and is now being sent to the Senate. The stimulus bill has lots of problems, and it mixes and matches many goals which might be better off done separately. But this kind of slow give and take spends a luxury that we do not have: time. We do not have time because while TARP has bailed out the bankers, sufficiently so that they feel they can pay huge bonuses, and redo their offices, the banks have not started lending. As the graph from the BLS shows – employment is in freefall.
That the economy is getting worse can be seen from the most recent GDP figures. On the surface, it does not seem so bad, economists were predicting a 5.5% fall in GDP on average, we saw only 3.8%. But 1.3% of that was inventories that were sitting on shelves. Basically, retailers decided not to cut prices in the face of the down turn, but instead let goods pile up the shelves. In normal conditions, the Federal Reserve would be raising interest rates to deal with an economy that was over-producing. So they taught us back in macro-economics: "A recession occurs when inventories pile up and the Federal Reserve raises interest rates to cool the economy." Ah for the good old days when we had choices about these things.
Since time is the luxury we do not have, passing the bill now, in relatively close to it’s current form is the best thing the political system could do. It’s not a good bill, it is loaded with political compromises and rigid ideology, it could be greener, too. However, those unsold goods sitting on the shelves are going to have to be sold or liquidated, and the companies buying them are going to stop. This is already showing up as an accelerating global recession. Industrial production is down by record amounts in Japan, South Korea, and even China has seen it’s rapid rise slowed, and faces internal pressure. Europe is racked by increasing protests.
What’s interesting is that the national GOP, and GOP governors are at odds. Republican governors, faced with massive service cuts, or raising taxes, or both – having long since "returned to the tax payers" the rainy day money that they should have had, are begging for the stimulus bill to be passed. Republicans are unclear on the concept: stimulus is the government borrowing money that would otherwise not be borrowed, paying to do things that should be done that would not be, and collecting the taxes on the other side that would never have happened. It works if given a chance.
The reality, as Barney Frank has pointed out is that Republicans demand that their wasteful spending be off the table, while even spending that works, such as family planning money – a dollar spent on family planning, on average, saves 3 to 6 dollars of other spending on services – should be gutted for reasons that remain obscure. The other reality is that having pre-compromised by larding the stimulus bill with tax cuts, the stimulus bill is now being attacked by conservative economists for not having enough of a Keynesian multiplier effect. This lack of effect comes from the tax cuts, not the spending.
As sad as it is to say, this bill is probably the best that can be done at this time. The real work of restructuring the American financial system is left undone, and there is still the matter of restructuring the American economy. We have already bet very heavily on a long recovery cycle, which would allow the illiquid assets that the government is backing to rise in value enough to be sold off at at least break even. The longer and deeper the recession is, the harder this is to do, and the more likely that we will end up throwing good money after bad when these same assets fail to bounce back.
The Senate can and should make some changes to the bill, add spending ideas that work. But then, by the end of the week, they should move the bill, and turn their attention to fixing the problems. The Stimulus bill is to buy time, which means we do not have time to waste. That means the public has to tell their senator to vote for the bill, and not to mangle what is already a delicate compromise. Since Clinton era comparisons are all the rage, they can be reminded of how in the 1990′s a stimulus bill died, and part of the result was a long painfully slow recovery, the lingering effects of which gave Gingrich the gavel when the smoke settled after a 1994 wipe out of Congressional Democrats. They can also be reminded of how tax cut driven stimulus failed to pick up employment, as the money went under the mattresses of the upper 1% instead of to the economy.





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Thank you Stirling. Hope there is still time – and the will – to influence Congress to take the right actions.
Don’t forget South Carolina’s governor, Mark Sanford (no relation to Fred), almost let the unemployment fund run out because he didn’t think those who are unemployed deserved any money. Nice going, South Carolina.
I think Senators who vote against this bill should be barred from reaping any benefits from it. Then they can go back and tell their constituents that they saved them from “socialism” as their economies collapse.
Question: Is there any reason not to put a condition on any bailout funds that, until the money is paid back, the receiver cannot reduce the numbers of workers or their pay?
That should incentify Democrats. The political calculus of the needed Republican vote is going to be interesting.
It will also be interesting to watch future GOP presidential hopefuls continue to fuck up their states so they can say they “never raised taxes.”
If they can’t pass it this week, Harry Reid had better treat us all to the spectacle of a GOP filibuster, because things will get much, much worse before they get better. The blame-apportioning had better begin now; GOPs excel at that. Only by pre-immunizing themselves against the GOP blame onslaught will the Democrats survive a 2010 bloodbath.
We have to push because the Republicans are getting their core voters back on line and getting their party discipline in place. Schumer has offered some concessions, but largely is willing to hold the line. The big Senate change is the AMT fix, which will probably pass the house.
The Republicans are trying to attack the social spending as not stimulative, when in fact, the social spending outscores even many infrastructure projects in both deficit effects and stimulation. The conservative argument on the deficit makes no sense, because they are trying to get removed the best, deficit wise, provisions. Their argument on speedy stimulus makes no sense, because they want the corporate tax breaks kept, which hit the economy slowly, if at all.
What the Republicans would do if they were in charge is what they did the last time: cut taxes and raise defense spending, and pretend that the deficit will fix itself. The 2000’s recovery was terrible, the worst extended recovery in post-war history, precisely because this is a bad combination.
Not so obscure – Family planning spending admits that people have sex. The Rs like to work from the fantasy world of the stylized ’50s where husband and wife slept in twin beds and no one actually had any sex and all birth was from immaculate conception.
Also in that fantasy land where cutting taxes and raising defense spending balances the budget.
Kay Bailey on MTP this morning didn’t even seem to understand the concept of stimulus:
She appears to believe that “stimulus” is “job stimulative.”
I realize part of this is because, as you say, they tried to tackle “stimulus” and other economic recovery investment in the same bill. Obama calls it an “economic recovery plan” but most others don’t.
And then there’s the part where Kay Bailey is just an idiot.
And she’s most likely to be the next Governor of TExas, so rumors have it.
“Stay away from the brown acid…”
Or does she mean the tax cuts are the stimulus:
I didn’t watch the show, so I can’t tell from the transcript whether she is listing separate desirable items or explaining what the stimulus is.
Absolutely. The problem with the proposal isn’t that we are spending too much. It is that we are spending too little.
We have [or had] a $13 trillion economy. $850 billion to be spent over 18 months isn’t nearly enough.
Several of the pieces that are under attack do create jobs. For example, Pell Grants mean that people can afford college, and that creates jobs for lecturers, professors, and positions for graduate students. It also means that people will be out of the work force, reducing employment pressures for a while, and it means they will be more valuable when they come back to the work force.
More over, since the overwhelming majority of Pell Grant money would be spent on American institutions of higher learning, it has a better multiplier than almost any tax cut.
What’s not to like? Jobs, education, better use of slack GDP, and it pays itself back over time as people with higher wages pay more taxes.
The conservatives are just not making any sense with their proposals – which is why they are reduced to “well if we had won the election, we would do it differently.” Well, that’s sort of true, but they lost the Congressional elections in 2006, and lost seats in 2008, and lost the Presidency pretty handily. If the argument is efficiency, they lose on their proposals versus either the House or Senate bills. If the argument is politics, they already lost that one in November. Since neither the facts, nor the politics, are on their side here, they seem to be arguing collective amnesia. If the Republican approach worked, then McCain would have won, and the Republicans would be in control of Congress.
Americans voted for “change we can believe in.” The Republican Congress is saying they don’t believe in change. Meanwhile, Republicans who actually have to balance budgets and provide services, are begging for the money. Nothing focuses the mind like a budget short-fall that has to be closed. California issued script, again. Texas faces a 9 billion dollar short fall, this after a 10 billion dollar short fall just 6 years ago forced major cuts to education. Florida’s 4 billion dollar shortfall is going to create the need for major education cuts.
Crist of Flordia for example, called House Republicans personally to move the Stimulus bill. Not one Republican from Florida, or anywhere else, voted for it.
The part where Hutchinson is an idiot is the bigger part. I wonder if she will feel a bit embarrassed when she reads the transcript.
The main thing the bill does that the repubs would never do is take care of the unemployed. The provision allowing the unemployed to get on medicare is just brilliant for our side. It gets people used to the idea of universal health care. When they get a job, and lose the coverage, you can bet they will support the needed changes.
That’s the GOP. “Who are you going to believe, Rush, or that lying pink slip in your hands?”
The Repugs are like spoiled children in the back of the car.
They complain endlessly about why they’re going to Grandma’s, how long it’s taking, they’re hungry, why can’t they get a pony, etc.
And as every good parent understands, no Democrat would ever let them drive.
Shorter Democrats to Repugs: “STFU!”
The attacks aren’t consistent — one line is that “putting money into the economy now won’t create jobs” and another is “infrastructure spending won’t be stimulative because construction won’t start for over a year.”
It doesn’t make sense on many levels but I don’t think it’s supposed to.
I must say this because it is not said enough. The patriotic R’s and the D’s did not fund the troops fighting the Oil Wars. These wars are wars on credit for our children to pay. But we also are paying for it through the Economic Toxic Meltdown. The meltdown was only partially caused by the massive theft by investment bankers. Wars consume material resources, and lives. Wars make poverty. But the destruction made money for Exxon, Halliburton, Blackwater, GE and so on.
The ultra rich and the Oil companies have profited greatly but they refuse to pay their fair share of their Iraki, Afghan and mideast quagmires. It is class warfare always.
Things are going from bad to worse and people around the world have had it with their leadership or lack there of. If some coherent program is not put into place and soon in America, the rioting that is taking place on other shores will come home to roost. Just wait about 60 days when the weather gets a little warmer. Here is just a sample of what is happening around the world that the US media tries as best it can to downplay.
New York City tax revenues plummet and City budget is in difficulty, massive job cuts. http://nychousingbubble.blogspot.com/
Real estate forecast to plunge 50%:
http://nychousingbubble.blogsp…..luded.html
Ron Paul 1/22/09:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-k2H9ddtI
Times Uk article 1st Feb 2009 suggests as Geithner attacks China, not a mistake but deliberate and could spark a possible trade war with China and China could well stop buying US debt and then dollar printing would have take place resulting in interest rates climbing irrespective of an economy in deflation:
http://business.timesonline.co…..627402.ece
Iceland was the first, when trying to bailout the banks brought down the entire economy, now bigger nations start to follow in Iceland’s footsteps.
Demonstrations in Moscow as Russian economy starts to collapse:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..onomy.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new…..-east.html
BBC reports thousands held rallies right across Russia demonstrating about the economic collapse, as many are concerned of the country becoming bankrupt, some calling for Putin to resign:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wor…..862370.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7863286.stm
Crowds demonstrating about economic collapse clash with police in Paris:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wor…..857435.stm
Four bankers on trial in Indonesia on charges of bribing politicians:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wor…..859905.stm
Thousands protest in Mexico City about Governments tackling of the economic crisis:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wor…..862294.stm
The Repugs intuitively know that all of their ideas the last quarter century have been epic fails.
But knowing it, and admitting it are two different things.
Repugs have been reduced to their knee-jerk lizardbrain mantra of But…but…but!
Failure does have a father, and its name is Repugs!
The last line is just hilarious, precious and oh so accurate
The chickens are coming home to roost already in China…
Ya gotta love Rep. Marcy Kaptur’s moxie…
From This Week:
Why, oh, why can’t the Democrats answer this with:
That’s like saying do you want civilization or do you want anarchy?
Shit. I just checked my lottery ticket and I didn’t win. Again.
Oh, crap. That doesn’t work? That was my retirement plan.
The reply there is:
“We are saving the free market from a group of bankers that thought it was a free lunch.”
very good.
There is no “credit Crisis” .
see this
http://research.stlouisfed.org…..CR?cid=101
There were and are a few of the biggest bank’s who are broke
(where do you think the word bankruptcy comes from?)
The thieves in Washington created a “credit Crisis” to push through their
theft.
It’s more sinister than that. Many conservative non-Catholic Christians are being pushed by their preachers in the direction of restricting birth control, ultimately even for married couples. This vote gives them a ‘posturing’ victory.
The provision should be restored, it wouldn’t change the vote in the house substantially, and most Americans (including a majority of Catholics) want access to all current forms of contraception.