The online right exhausted itself during the Bush years because there was no limit to the propaganda they would push to defend indefensible kleptocrats who wrapped themselves in the flag. They shot their credibility. If it wasn’t for wingnut welfare operations like Pajamas Media (R.I.P.), Heritage and other right-wing think tanks like Claremont (who subsidize the Power Tools), it’s hard to imagine that public enthusiasm for the "Big Lie" would have seen traffic levels sufficient to keep them afloat.
Forsooth and forshizzle! But the rot goes even deeper. I’ve said it often enough before: the problem with "conservatism" as it is currently evangelized is that it is really, really stupid. The Jammies Media mess is the "conservative" mess in microcosm.
The whole PJ’s thing was preposterous on its face, as any number of people pointed out at the time, often quite scabrously. There were a lot of reasons to think this, not the least of which was the obvious fact that the people running it were, and remain, morons. But the biggest problem facing the Jammies enterprise was always ideological.
Pajamas Media was based on the grandiose premise that it could provide some sort of counter to the dreaded MSM with its wicked liberal bias and its out-and-out plumping for the Democratic Party. It wasn’t started, it would seem, with the intent of making money, as the spectacularly incompetent rollout indicated, except perhaps as an afterthought. No, it was, essentially, a halfassed or quarterassed… jihad, really. The Jammies crowd was supposed to Lead a New Media Revolution against the Legacy Media and lift the curtain on certain Truths that had been Vouchsafed to the Enlightened. Namely, that the media is Liberal, that global warming is a hoax, that the Bush approach to the Middle East was Wise, that Harry Reid is a Stalinist, that the Republican Party was Pure and the Democrat Party Corrupt, that Social Security was in imminent crisis, that Hollywood is about communist indoctrination and not about dollars — and so on, and so forth, world with out end, Amen!
But all of this was, and remains, from an empirical perspective, absolute horseshit. You would have had to be a complete and total mental patient to have ever believed a word of it: Exhibit A.
All the Twittering and messaging in the world can’t change the fact that in business as in politics, you can use bullshit to blow up a bubble, but that’s pretty much it. "Conservatives" might under certain foreseeable scenarios someday return to power, but as things stand, without a thoroughgoing attempt to grapple with consensus reality, there is no prospect of them ever again becoming remotely capable of governing. And this sort of shit just won’t cut it:
Speakers at the gathering included such familiar faces as Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol, Club for Growth founder and Wall Street Journal editorial page editor Stephen Moore, former Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, pollsters Rich Thau and David Winston, and return-of-the-Republican message guru Frank Luntz. They skewed conservative, and they offered plenty of Reagan references.
I bet they did. The failed and the insane: how cutting edge.



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I am first! Hi, Thers!
Hey Thers. What’s up?
Not much. You cool?
Forsooth and forshizzle!
Yo, all the time Thers.
But ya gotta admit, they had a really cuuute name!
Three Stooges on 1, 2 & 3
;~P
Forshorts!
Fortalls!
Forfoots!
Thersday on Saturday!
Without wingnut welfare, they couldn’t get jobs scraping bird shit off bridge decking.
It’s gonna be a long nite…
forhands!
What happened to your ZED?
Shoorfarts!
foreskin?
for all their bitching about welfare queens driving around in cadillacs, they sure don’t see the irony of bitching about their sugar daddy pulling the plug on their wingnut welfare.
They might be right about Harry Reid being a Stalinist, if one revises history sufficiently to suggest that Stalin was a spineless, imbecilic, surrender-monkey.
(laughing) i wasn’t gonna go there
Because it rationalizes greed, short term greed. The Housing Bubble was the night the Banks blew the rent money and everything they could borrow on drinks.
Today is the day after the Rent is due, the hangover is just starting, however the IOU’s have not started collecting.
This is just the beginning unless we get on the stick.
Self awareness is emphatically not in the wingnut character. Besides, they regard it as a birthright, not a handout.
That should be in the stimulus bill, actually…
Foreplay, as in turnaround is.
What I thought it was a counter balance to us?
Don’t you just love Michael Steele starting his tenure at the RNC with “…And now for something completely different!”
If they’d really have wanted some one different, new, and forward thinking, they’d have elected a Democrat!
Yep. Time for them to put their tongues to a useful purpose.
Forswear foreskin forthwith, four-flusher.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it isn’t already there…
Scabrously. Now THAT is a word.
Shouldn’t that be “fair play”?
I thought all this time that old Harry was just some confused guy caught wandering in the hall.
The counter to dirty fucking hippies would be what, spotless, celibate, skinheads? Well, the celibate skinheads part might be accurate but I suspect they’re pretty spotty.
OK pups DIGG is now open!
Not in 2005. 2005 was still a year of wingnut triumphalism — they thought they won the 04 elections, having had “Rathergate” and all.
That year it was still all “permanent GOP majority” and how Liberal Blogs were failures. A common troll snark point was “Kos is 0-19″!
It was the point right before the bubble popped, really.
Nah, despite what you’ve heard, turnaround is foreplay.
Actually, foreplay is fair play, if done correctly.
Dugg the hole to bury PJs Media.
dugg
I stand, humbly, corrected.
(and agree)
;~P
The problem seems to be the Liberal Media already agreed with them about all this.
So Pajamas Media was redundant at best. It was top down message from on high not base driven like us.
Media Discipline means no off topic late late nite threads talking about what we want to talk about.
This cuts down on the creative new ideas.
I wonder who were the Sugar Daddies that kicked them to the curb?
More like threeskin. not much there.
nahant and I double-Dugg. Mine came out on top.
It is a personal favorite.
They stole that election but yeah I get your point.
Frank Zappa wrote a song called “Po-jama People” that was fairly prescient.
And so on…
roger simon is their sugar daddy – or was
AHahahahahah!~
oh my god. She really thought Pajamas Media was going rival AP, UPI?
I’m at a loss for words.
‘Course most of OUR new creative ideas are treated like ideas jotted down on bar napkins. But at least we can share a beer while being ignored by the Great and Glorious Mainstream Media. You guys are great. Here’s to ya!
I think he was more of a saccharine daddy myself.
Ted Haggard Celibate? Mark Foley Celibate? Rush Drug Free? Ann Coulter sane and or Drug Free?
Oh wait you are talking about how the GOP sold itself to the public not the actual reality:)
If Pajamas has crashed, is it too much to speculate that Politico won’t be far behind?
Must be having financial trouble I wonder how many Divorces the Bush Recession will cause?
What about Joe the Plumber? Isn’t he on assignment for PJ in the Middle East? Is he stranded, now?
Well, of course the gay Republicans aren’t celibate. Gad, you can’t use a public restroom without stepping on their (tapping) toes.
cheetos stock is going to fall due to the drop in demand now that pjmedia is toast.
One can only hope.
We can only hope.
Heard that Mountain Dew stock tanked on the news.
We are getting some play just not the credit. Who cares the GOP has failed and we are the only game in town with new ideas!
Owe you a frosty beverage of your choice.
I hope so!
Well, they thought they mattered, the wingnut bloggers, is part of it. But they didn’t. 2006 showed that. They’re still trying to pretend that they do.
On the plus side, there will be fewer wingnuts clogging up the ERs trying to figure out why their wing-dings turned orange.
ROTFLMAO!
Please, please, please! There it is! Joe the Plummer broke PJ media!! That’s our story and we’re stickin’ to it!
Thanks. Diet Pepsi, please. I like to help out small business.
dammit, poor token caught the brunt of my spew (but i missed the monitor)
and the beer’s better!
Here you go.
Oh no. The part of the business where people will pay $20 a month to see Joe Wurtzelpoofer videos, along with Glenn Reynolds talking crap — that part is where they’re going to still spend money.
I am not making that up.
Whoops! Sorry bout dat.
True and lets not forget Diapers Senator Vitter. Or Man on Dog ex Senator Santorum, was Scooter Libby subject to Senate confirmation for his old job?
If he was you would think Santorum would have a little problem with the bear in Scooter’s book.
Or the weird book O’Reily wrote before he was famous with the violence and sex in it.
If they are real lucky that might almost keep Joe in blintzes, but it ain’t gonna pay his freight back stateside.
Sheeeeit, if they could be convinced to watch Olbermann, they can get them for free.
Hey, so long as they have to PAY for their crap, who cares? They just made it into a circle jerk!
I think $20 is more than their allowances.
O’Reilly and sex in the same sentence just doesn’t work for me.
Thanks!
Amen!
Maybe Sara P will spring for his plane ticket.
Snake on plane.
Makes me kind of queasy.
Maybe we could take up a collection to fly Joe teh Plummer to…well, shit, I can’t think of a better place for his worthless skin than in the line of fire where he is.
No kidding, I’m sick of soggy falafel.
We could stick him on the Kurdish-Turkish border.
Thats what his wife said after the sexual harassment lawsuit.
(that one I made up so don’t everyone ask for a link)
with a falafel.
All, yeah, it’s amazing. They really do think they can make money with Joe the Plumber videos.
My thesis? Confirmed.
I’ll bet they didn’t want to pay the airfare, so they bought Joe a bus ticket to Hoboken. He couldn’t tell the difference.
Arggh I just made some Falafel now I can’t eat it brrrh! Yeech!
Actually, what keeps flashing in my head is that scene from “Trading Places” where the bad guy is gagged and stuffed into a gorilla suit and caged with an amorous male gorilla. Buy Joe a gag and a burka and send him to Afganistan…..
Or Gary, IN. Pretty much looks the same and plenty of gunfire.
We should check to see how Joe is doing in 6 months if he disappears from the media. In this economy he might end up working at an Obama stimulus package job:)
There’s your problem. You aren’t supposed to eat falafels. You are supposed to bath with them. Geeez.
You prolly need a plumber’s license for that.
and bitching about how much better it wudda been with st john the torturer and caribou barbie in charge the whole time
ARRRagh! With comments like that you could be a diet coach:)
I’ve heard if you hold your falafel up to the mirror and say Bill O’Reilly five times he’ll materialize in your shower. It’s probably just an urban legend but who the hell would make the attempt?
He can sweep floors.
He may have repudiated st john, IIRC. It’s just him and Palin now. Some ticket!
Sure Sarah would have gotten him a good job…as the guy who holds her purchases when she goes shopping.
If Joe gets paid by the pound and his back holds out he could clean up.
Yeah. Johnny boy wouldn’t give him no reach around.
C’mon! Joe may be a big dick, but I doubt he’s THAT big!
Or East St. Louis, although I think they have riverboat casinos now so the town has probably been revitalized…
Now there’s a business model to emulate.
All right, drifting. Night mes amis.
He tried, he just has really short arms.
g’nite, Thers
g’nite thers
Nighters!
Night Thers! Sweet dreams.
LOL! They ain’t short, they just don’t reach any higher than his own!
Thersaures!
This is an interesting development. Even Palin has her hand out. Plus, she gets per diem… sweet!
GOP Governors Press Congress To Pass Stimulus Bill
Now I’m afraid to go to sleep no wait I got a Made in China Japanese Tanto knife I can put under my pillow if he shows.
Or maybe the Machete with
stamped on the blade!
Think I will head out as well. Take care, all.
Nite Dr.!
nite thers
nite doctor
He’s reaching his own now? The economy must really be bad if the job losses have even gotten to Graham and Lieberman.
We should tell Sarah less tax cuts mean more cash for her state! No war in Afghanistan means more money for her state!
Since he loaned his wife out to the bikers, he’s gotta make due.
G’nite DrDick.
Hold the bandwagon, g’nite all.
Nite Thers
Nite DrDick
I doubt if she’s even seen it in the past 20 years. Good for her.
Well, I don’t know what else you’d call that campaign, other than ego masturbation.
g’nite dr dick
Hi guys!
What a strange thing. I laid down on the couch at 4:30 for a short nap. Mister was at a practice. I woke up and it was 8:30. Mister’s in bed. Asleep. So I come here and the late night host is going to bed.
Where’d my Saturday night go?
I wonder if Todd is jealous
ok, that’s twisted
and assumes facts not in evidence.
I hope that thirty or forty years from now, people are still telling Joe the Plumber jokes to ridicule the McSame/Failin’ campaign…
I’m sure Cassy will be on Rachael talking about the good old days as we swear another Obama in:)
On the FireDogLake Cable channel:)
Ah’ll drink to that!
I’ll Drink but later:)
Breaking – AppleFDL™ replaces MSNBC as cable leader, successfully recruits Olberman & Maddow.
you mac types always think things are better with apple added
Mea culpa, Suz.
How do you like your iPod?
Then we will see some real stories:)
linky???
President Feingold announces state dinner honoring founders, Hamsher, Greenwald and Smith.
First Culture11, now Pajamas. Allah must really hate conservative bloggers.
touche (my windows machine doesn’t have that fancy thingie to go over the e)
www dot x86-blows dot com
Frank Rich says most of what needs to be said, once again.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02…..ef=opinion
Hey Suzanne, how come it never works for me when I click on Show Text? Could it be that I have a fancy thingie that goes over the e?
President Hamsher met with Vice President Christy Hardin Smith before announcing the restoration of the Constitution of the United States to its pre-bush status.
the show text thingie is not working, just like the new comments thingie *deep sigh*
dam dam dam!
Some windows user broke it, eh?
Fauve Kali!
tw3k, dude. where you been?
ooh fun!
Can I play too
I do miss that. And, because my computer is so slow, that every time I refresh, my screen hangs at the top on comment #4 while loading. I keep seeing forsooth and forshizzle.
wazzuprs newt!
Aren’t you too excited about tomorrow?
the new comments thingie and show text are on the list for the tech crew but their list has gotten pretty big what with all the sister blogs.
Aahh, Sunny I look forward to this dinner.
What role in the administration is waiting for you?
oh, but it does work–for me–when I’m using Internet Explorer (but you have to let the page finish reloading before it will work)
sure would be nice if it worked for other browsers, like Firefox…
Yeah, the game’s called “Megalomania” I’m stickin’ my name in the hat for Empress of the Universe.
FDL should apply for some financial stimulus funds to create jobs for tech folks on these blogs…
It is possible to refresh comments w/out a hard refresh. But ones’ days here would probably be numbered..
Can I be the weather girl?
we don’t think things are better with Mac, we KNOW! *g*
To hell with the “sisters” take care of the LAKE!!!
Can you use this one?
I’m focused on Marcy’s role. State, DHS or Defense?
Strutting should be avoided, as it could hurt some…Oh hell, you go girl!
what about Marcy as Inspector General, On High?
Do you know which way the wind blows?
ala Dylan
not that she couldn’t handle a cabinet post, but I might rather see her as Inspector General for one of those…
thanks ellie
DoJ!
what are you drinking, Elliot?
i’m thinking transportation
A strategic thinker like Marcy – Chief of Staff. A real one.
Good thinking – you could deduct your wardrobe..
I can’t a manage a more gracious yet magnificent Empress of the Universe. I wonder if Aretha’s hat is available for the Empress
Sticking my index finger in my mouth and holding it up usually works. Not sure of the scientific method to gage the temperature though.
I hope it goes into the Smithsonian…
Ha. When did the weather girls all start wearing, like, cocktail dresses?
well, I just poured elegant glass of wine, the wine isn’t elegant but the glass is.
What are you drinking?
btw, neuro, Duffy’s Mercy moves me.
well you be arranging a group of demi’s dancing weather girls?
anyone have any guesses who stars in tonight’s late late nite cartoon?
OH yes, but on a model of Aretha
peshaw. Lets see you build a better MAc than PC. With Mac you get what they say you can have.. just saying…
Oh and show text does work on a PC and IE… So there!
Yogi!
Yes. Where’s Mary?
Try outs at noon tomorrow.
BUGS Bunny? Elma fudd
animal, vegetable, or huminal?
Top Cat?
nope
buzz, wrong answer, try again
ohmystars, i’ve not thought of top cat in years.. gonna have to see if there are any on utube
Woody?
uhhhh cartoon
that Frank Rich piece is very good
come upstairs and find out pups
tweetie bird and Sylvester?
dog, cat, or moose&squirrel?
Betty Boop
Popeye?
I would stay up for Top Cat. He was one of my favorites.
Harden-Smith’s nomination as Chief Justice, viewed positively by Senate leadership according to unnamed senior officials.
I read that Aretha’s hat is goin’ into the Smithsonian. ‘Sides, I’m not a big enough woman to carry off that much hat. I hope…
Re: The Politico link about the stirrings in the R party right now: Continue to watch the Republicans closely. They are more dangerous now than they have been in a generation, precisely because they are in the process of facing facts. Their belief system has ruined the Country, and their ideological bait is no longer working for the vast majority of the people. So, they will have to come up with another set of lies, and this is precisely what they will busy themselves to do.
The Republicans and the right were able to hook the middle class and working Americans for a generation with the bait-and-switch of “values” because these groups felt abandoned by a Democratic Party which stopped overtly working for and talking about the things that put FDR and the New Deal into power. The Democratic Party must re-establish itself firmly has the party of the overwhelming mass of Americans, namely workers and the middle class.
If Republicans and the right are able to cook up another big lie toolkit which working folks buy into before the Democrats re-establish themselves in public perception like the New Dealers did, then look for a resurgence in “conservatism” sooner, rather than later. Yes, it can happen here.
Jim Holbert
2010 Democratic Primary Congressional Candidate
KY 5th District
email: contact@holbertforcongress.com
web: http://www.holbertforcongress.com
PJ Media found out their audience doesn’t (can’t?) read. Puttin all their moolah into video’s of Joe the Plumber and other ass cracks.