That’s fine. Republicans Shouldn’t vote for the Porkulus bill. It’s nothing but Democrat pork and when it doesn’t work they won’t have to share any of the blame. The country will need a Republican again to get out of the Next Great Depression that will happen unless we keep the tax cuts in place and cut them further.

Fitz!

Nooner, Don’t you just hate it when your past words come and bite you in the ass and show you to be a hypocrite. Almost makes the koolaid come out of your nose.

“He could have made history by listening to them.”

Well, Obama did listen, and he did take out rubbers from the bill, and the Republicans still fucked him.

But guess what? The Democrats have both Chambers, and the White House, and soon will be putting Justices on SCOTUS, so, Peggy, who’s making history?

Who cares wha you think, Peggy?

Nobody.

By the way, that is not a Martini. Don’t know what it is, but it is not a Martini. Maybe it’s her Soy drink for the day…

Oh, hi BT.

I’m confused. Is she saying she is Tweedledum or Tweedledee?

Sorry but seriously someone needs to show that woman this picture. Her head and body are not suite for that outfit.

So, we got ourselves in to a hole. Now what? Keep digging?

According to this from Politico via Yahoo, a lot of the House members are blaming that mean ol’ Speaker Pelosi

Echoing themes from this week’s debate, Ryan and other Republicans are still blaming Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) — not President Barack Obama — for failing to reach across the aisle.

kool aid frozen daquiri?

Interesting that the GOP didn’t vote against Bush’s stimulus package.

I’d be willing to bet that Obama could do every single thing that Bush did, and the GOP would still vote against him. They don’t care about the country; they care about “winning.”

ding!

It seems to be happy hour..

so anyone who becomes President must also become Republican?

how long do we have to suffer this kind of people?

Apparently they do cocktails instead of koolaid.
Please tell- how do people with such awful voices get to be pundits? with or without their opinions who can stand to listen or look at them -

Cutting taxes is the only way to end a recession…even liberal Lord Keynes said that…

I am almost happy the republicans chose to slap obama in the face

obama tried bi-partisanship and he sees what it got him, now let’s see how fast he learns

Now that post-partisanship has been revealed to be the same insideous “bi-partisanship” of the loathsome Bush years (that is, repuglican arrogance mixed neatly with democratic capitulation), can we please have a progressive bill? The country really needs it.

It seems to be happy hour..

howdy rond!

where are you???:
i’m moving there if it’s happy hour already today!

Something tells me he won’t learn from this episode of Repug malfeasance.

The only thing worse than reading Noonan’s drivel is listening to her speak.

It reminds me of nothing do much as the ‘93 budget bill, that every single Republican voted against, then tried to take credit for when it worked. They’re gambling that they can sabotage Obama enough to rebound in the Congress in 2010. ‘94 all over again.
They’re willing to destroy the country to “save” it. If nothing else, the last 8 years demonstrated that quite convincingly.

She is unequivocally and mercilessly arrogant in her speech and mannerisms. Watching her speak is even worse!

Hi Selise, and Siri!
Siri, I’m in central FL and it’s always happy hour here….good time to move. Lots of cheap real estate here right now.

Depends what the rates are and depends who you’re cutting. During the early 90s, Clinton raised taxes in 1993, after Poppy raised them in 1990.

What’s that stench? Ah, teh trolls are back. Pulling pearls of wisdom out of their asses. Carry on.

rond, how long does it take you to get to the beach?

The first rule of holes is when you’re in one, stop digging.When you’re in three, bring a lot of shovels.” – Tom Friedman

First of all, how can any single person be in three holes at once? Secondly, what the fuck is he talking about? If you’re supposed to stop digging when you’re in one hole, why should you dig more in three? How does that even begin to make sense? – Matt Taibbi

depending on which one, 15-45 minutes. Gulf Coast.

Got tix to the Stupid Bowl and/or been to any of the partays?

Let me get this straight. We will need a president from the Rush Limpballs party to get us out of a depression that another president from the Rush Limpballs Party got us into?

Limpballs/Bible Spice 2012!

The first rule of holes is when you’re in one, stop digging.When you’re in three, bring a lot of shovels.” – Tom Friedman

First of all, how can any single person be in three holes at once? Secondly, what the fuck is he talking about? If you’re supposed to stop digging when you’re in one hole, why should you dig more in three? How does that even begin to make sense? – Matt Taibbi

Well, give him 6 months and see if he can get himself out.

If he’s diggin’ ‘em in FL he’d better watch out. This sandy soil has a way of caving in on hole diggers.

i’m THERE!!!

(like the always happy hour thing wasn’t enough)
lol

Oh hell no. You couldn’t drag me near that madhouse. I was at the Hard Rock the other night picking up a friend who works there, and you couldn’t swing a dead cat without hitting people you see on TV all the time. Complete chaos.

I’m into tranquility and good company.

Courtesy of Bobby D:

“Well, the timeless stream has a deaf last meal
And the noble truth is a sacred creed
My pretty baby, she’s looking around
She’s wearin’ a multi-thousand dollar gown
Tweedle Dee is a low down sorry old man
Tweedle Dum he’ll stab you where you stand
“I’ve had too much of your company,”
Said Tweedle Dum to Tweedle Dee.”

It was Democrat malfeasance of Chris Dodd and Barney Frank in making it mandatory for banks for give money to the poor at outrageously bad rates that has led to the present crisis. Don’t blame George W. Bush for something that liberal redistributionist policies have led to…

One of my co-workers has a ticket to the ABC party tonight. She’s got to work tomorrow and is not a happy camper that nobody will pull her shift in the morning. All together now, awwwwwwwww…

where’d that taibbi quote come from hackworth?
linky?

Isn’t this the photograph of Noonan featured by the dictionary definition of ‘hypocrite’?

I assume you volunteered to go along as spiritual advisor..

With Rust Limpball’s talking points down pat; the “Porkulus” bill straight from the corpulent one’s lips.

Back to the quarry. Be interesting to see when or if boss comes in to pay us. He’s out bank shopping to maintain his lifestyle.

No we don’t need El Rushbo for that, we simply just need to leave things alone and let the recession run its course. Some minor tax tweaks would be helpful, but if the recession started at the end of 07, it will soon have run its course and we will be out of this. Most recessions don’t last much longer that 2 years.

This gigantic pork bill Obama is trying to get through is simply a bunch of pay-offs to the people who go him to where he is. It is as simple as that. Another thing, the Dems don’t need a single Republican to pass this. If this bill is as miraculous as the media portrays, every Dem should sign on, then make the Republicans go extinct the next election cycle. Remember 1994.

So Bush, as President for 8 years, was powerless to stop them?

Not on your life. Like you I like tranquility and good company. Had my fill of celebrities while living in LA.

Looks like the mods got to him before you did. Awwwww, poor wittle twoll.

So if Peg reads this, will the stupid stop?
Oh nevermind its all she knows.

He tried, multiple times. Unfortunately for Republicans any time they try to stop some liberal fiasco, they are constantly attacked for being sexist, racist, homophobe, etc. You know the routine Tex, I’ve seen you do it on this blog in the past.

this time of the year, the weather in your neck of the woods is tempting. but come summer i’ll be glad to be up north.

I’ve got a head cold. I need a tax cut.

wow
we don’t get a lot of Bu$h defenders in here.

Speak the good word brother :]

Republicans don’t understand what bi-partisanship means. They think it means that they get everything they want, and that after a collapse of their party, due to their ruinous actions, they should still call the shots.

Until they understand what it means to actually work together at a time of global crisis, we should simply stop listening to them. Let them go on and on, while we get out there and do what has to be done.

Peggy Noonan? The last time she had any real relevance was during the Reagan era. She’s been floating around, pretending to be a friend, searching for relevance, for a long time now. Her ideas and comments are almost always very general, often gossipy, and rarely worth a damn.

Things have changed now and there is a different group of people in power. The media hasn’t seemed to grasp this yet, given the number of GOP apologists they employ on their shows and interviews. But we don’t have to suffer them if we don’t want to. For some period of time, while we deal with the crises, it’s time to listen only to people who actually have something useful to say and whose only agenda is the same as ours — to restore the country and perhaps save the planet.

For the next several months (at the very least), I believe we should completely ignore them. Don’t listen to them, don’t read them, and for gawd’s sake don’t give them more publicity by quoting them and letting them suck up oxygen that we need for more productive efforts.

After that, we can get back to shining a light on the liars and hypocrites, but even then, we should focus more of our attention on people who have common goals with us and help them in any way we can.

Amazing. Bush comes into office with a huge surplus…within 2 years he’s promising to “cut the deficit in half by 2009″ (sputter)…some of the biggest top-end targeted tax cuts ever, while continuing to promote the de-industrialization of America and creation of fictional wealth…and it’s all Barney Frank’s, Chris Dodd’s, and poor people’s fault.

If you think for yourself, Rush can’t do it for you.

Come summer, I’ll wish I was there too. There’s a good reason nobody lived here before the invention of air conditioning.

So Bush was powerless to stop Frank and Dodd?

OT Helen Thomas got to ask Gibbs a question and follow up

C’mon BT, you know that Bush was never a real conservative – he just played one on TV and all the folks like Limpballs went along with the gag. It’s all Bush’s fault, not Limpballs’ for being a lying toad sucker.

Well, hmmm, in her world it is either noon or midnight. What’s the diff?

I imagine that the Bush Family Trust Funds have grown nicely durning the Decider’s time in office. Real Mission Accomplished.

Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Dumber.

That’s funny. I thought freedom now’s #1 was clever snark.

Repiglicans love to blame the subprime meltdown on Fannie and Freddie. Those companies have been around since the Great Depression. Their charter is for conforming loans not subprime.

The numbers are this: $3 Trillion subprime market.
Fannie Freddie combined exposure was less than $600B.
Not the major players like Countrywide, New Century, Indymac and other corporate banks.

The causes of the financial crises are many, but none are bigger than subprime mortgages and Credit Default Swaps. Both are products of unregulated markets and greed.

T-

So Ron, what happened during that time??? I realize 8 years is a long time to think back, but our country was turned on its head over a couple hour period of time when almost 3000 people died. Remember that? I personally will never forget seeing people fall out of those two buildings in an attempt to avoid being burned to death. Bush at that time said the War on Terror was going to be a long bloody conflict “a determined enemy”. Then liberals made it a political issue, and the rest is history. Back to your point, there probably wasn’t much time to think about budgets. Unfortunately I cannot support Bush on his bailout plan, that turned out the be a big flop.

Now we have Obama that is drafting a sympathy letter to Iran, the very country that was sponsoring (and supplying) the killing of American soldiers in Iraq. America is rolling over showing its nice pink belly again and its colossal ignorance…how unfortunate.

al gore says it’s gonna get hotter…

IIRC, Bush never vetoed a single spending bill between ‘01 and ‘07.

Wait..we need a scapegoat…I know! Let’s blame it on the evil monster FrankanDodd.

Yeah, I know. Heard him a couple days ago. I someday hope my grandsons can come back here and scuba dive, where they sleep at this minute.

What do you think? If Bush had a greater command over the bully pulpit, he could have probably pulled it off. Unfortunately he didn’t, which probably lead to the overall defeat of Republicans (and of course the Republicans out of control spending).

Good luck with that: http://www.kusi.com/weather/co…..74742.html

They’re not done yet. Look for Jeb in 2012.

Your wrong about that too. Conservatives won’t vote for another Bush. We are 0-2 in terms of fiscal policy.

you counting on the greenland ice sheet melting? btw, sorta related: Rising Acidity Threatens Oceans

p.s. gore was in central fl?

Gonna be a partay in the City Beautiful. ya goita be rich t’go, though.

BREAKING!!!! casey Anthony did not wear prison garb in court today. She wore a gray pantsuit with her hair up in a bun.

I missed him. saw Obama and Hillary, though.

New post upstairs

No veto power? No getting Republican lawmakers when they controlled the entire congress to change the laws?

Powerless?

that’s cool!

No, local NPR coverage.

Then liberals made it a political issue,

Nonsense. You must not remember the strategery in ‘02-”run on the war”. Since 9/11, till then, the Democrats gave Bush everything he asked for. It was turned into a political issue by a deliberate attempt to tar Democrats with the “unpatriotic” brush, a cynical ploy to demonize the opposition and smear people into keeping silent.

And now Republicans across the land, after destroying everything they have touched, are wailing and gnashing their teeth because they’re not getting everything they want anymore. Tough. You guys had your chance, and you screwed the pooch. The least you could do is try not to destroy the people trying to clean up your mess.

Again, what happens any time a Republican does anything remotely close to standing up to an issue relating specifically to women, homosexuals, minorities, low income earners, etc? They are demonized to the nth degree and everyone here knows it. They should have done it anyway and I think they know that now considering the situation they are in. Unfortunately a lot of low income earners had houses they should never have had, with risky loans they should have never received.

Ah. So Bush and the GOP Congress weren’t powerless, after all, but afraid?

any time a Republican does anything remotely close to standing up to an issue relating specifically to women, homosexuals, minorities, low income earners, etc?They are demonized to the nth degree…

Women, gays, minorities, low income earners, etc. are American citizens deserving of the same rights and respect due any other American citizen, so you’ll forgive us if we defend them when Republicans try to scapegoat them or deprive them of their rights. Like libel, I don’t think it’s demonizing if it happens to be true.

So Rush finally gave his Cyst a name? [Moderator: edited to remove namecalling] one can be safe in saying that he truly is talking out of his ass…

Sorry Mod, I was carried away in the spirit of the moment.

She is just trying to get back into the good graces of the Rethugs, after her Palin debacle (terrific insight, though about Palin).