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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/29/the-gop-tripling-down-on-the-shrinking-base/#comment-1811044</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The “fact is” that Hoover had cut the top income tax rate from 73% to 24% PRIOR to the Depression. Flush with money, that wealth went into the stock markets, and helped create the bubble that burst in 1929. When combined with the sharp decline in incomes during the early depression, the result was a serious deficit in the federal budget. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That resulted in the Congress, desperate to increase federal revenue to balance the budget, enacted the Revenue Act of 1932. The Act increased taxes on all income levels, and the percentage increased with income, to near pre-1928 levels for top income earners (63%). It also implemented a 13.75% tax on corporations. This was of course, when the economists all argued that there should be year-to-year (or pay-as-you-go) budgets. The Keynesian model of allowing deficits to run up was not considered reasonable. Thus no spending on public work projects or other activities that might increase the deficit were considered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, a “check tax” of 2-cents (&gt;30 cents in today’s dollars) on all bank checks. The impact of this was that small bank customers stopped using their accounts for daily transactions since the tax was regressive towards small amounts. This created a major contraction in the money supply.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hoover also relied on the voluntary cooperation of banks and financial corporations to direct assistance through loans to distressed banks and those facing bankruptcy. Like today, they simply failed to do so. There was no penalization for non-compliance. Instead the money was often used for further speculation and buying up of “distressed assets”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Reconstruction Finance Corporation (RFC) was created in 1932. The RFC’s initial goal was to provide government-secured LOANS to financial institutions, railroads and farmers. Roosevelt later expanded the RFC as a government-subsidized jobs program as part the New Deal.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The “fact is” that Hoover had cut the top income tax rate from 73% to 24% PRIOR to the Depression. Flush with money, that wealth went into the stock markets, and helped create the bubble that burst in 1929. When combined with the sharp decline in incomes during the early depression, the result was a serious deficit in the federal budget. </p>
<p>That resulted in the Congress, desperate to increase federal revenue to balance the budget, enacted the Revenue Act of 1932. The Act increased taxes on all income levels, and the percentage increased with income, to near pre-1928 levels for top income earners (63%). It also implemented a 13.75% tax on corporations. This was of course, when the economists all argued that there should be year-to-year (or pay-as-you-go) budgets. The Keynesian model of allowing deficits to run up was not considered reasonable. Thus no spending on public work projects or other activities that might increase the deficit were considered.</p>
<p>Also, a “check tax” of 2-cents (&gt;30 cents in today’s dollars) on all bank checks. The impact of this was that small bank customers stopped using their accounts for daily transactions since the tax was regressive towards small amounts. This created a major contraction in the money supply.</p>
<p>Hoover also relied on the voluntary cooperation of banks and financial corporations to direct assistance through loans to distressed banks and those facing bankruptcy. Like today, they simply failed to do so. There was no penalization for non-compliance. Instead the money was often used for further speculation and buying up of “distressed assets”.</p>
<p>The Reconstruction Finance Corporation (RFC) was created in 1932. The RFC’s initial goal was to provide government-secured LOANS to financial institutions, railroads and farmers. Roosevelt later expanded the RFC as a government-subsidized jobs program as part the New Deal.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“The “Magic Negro” song was a parody of an LA Times article, not the Bamster himself.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Show me the words in that song that indicates that Obama is a person of substance, values, charaxcter and not, as the song says, a “Magic Negro”?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually that article, which was actually a critique of whites for using token blacks that had no actual power or who merely acted as “sage cultural advisors” describes Limbaugh, and the Republican party, to a “T”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Rush may assert that it only applies to “liberals” and much of his on-air discussion actually needled the left for “Obama, the Magic Negro”. But he  himself has argued that Obama was nothing but an “empty suit”, whose speeches were poetic but carried no meaning (or worse, actually hid his actual intent). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So he actually BELIEVES that Obama is “A Magic Negro”, lacking accomplishments, elected merely because of his race.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Limbaugh said that he was going to “Own the term” “Magic Negro”…and now he does. It’s his albatross, his cross to bear. The article was obscure until he dredged it up…and I doubt that 99% of those that have heard the term can even state the name of the author of the LA Times op-ed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This reminds me of Limbaugh’s attitudes towards another “Magic Negro”…a fellow named Donovan McNabb…that Limbaugh argued shouldn’t be playing quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles and was simply an “affirmative action” experiment by the NFL. in the 2002 season, Limbaugh argued that McNabb didn’t deserve the spot, despite the fact that the Eagles had won the NFC Eastern Division the previous year.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rush was pulled off the air for those comments, which were widely regarded as racist. McNabb went on to win the Divisional title in that year, 2003, 2004, and made a comeback last year to take the Eagles to the 2008 Championship game. He won Pro-Bowl selections repeatedly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile Limbaughs version of accomplished Blacks are folks like Clarence Thomas.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The “Magic Negro” song was a parody of an LA Times article, not the Bamster himself.”</p>
<p>Show me the words in that song that indicates that Obama is a person of substance, values, charaxcter and not, as the song says, a “Magic Negro”?</p>
<p>Actually that article, which was actually a critique of whites for using token blacks that had no actual power or who merely acted as “sage cultural advisors” describes Limbaugh, and the Republican party, to a “T”.</p>
<p> Rush may assert that it only applies to “liberals” and much of his on-air discussion actually needled the left for “Obama, the Magic Negro”. But he  himself has argued that Obama was nothing but an “empty suit”, whose speeches were poetic but carried no meaning (or worse, actually hid his actual intent). </p>
<p>So he actually BELIEVES that Obama is “A Magic Negro”, lacking accomplishments, elected merely because of his race.</p>
<p>Limbaugh said that he was going to “Own the term” “Magic Negro”…and now he does. It’s his albatross, his cross to bear. The article was obscure until he dredged it up…and I doubt that 99% of those that have heard the term can even state the name of the author of the LA Times op-ed.</p>
<p>This reminds me of Limbaugh’s attitudes towards another “Magic Negro”…a fellow named Donovan McNabb…that Limbaugh argued shouldn’t be playing quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles and was simply an “affirmative action” experiment by the NFL. in the 2002 season, Limbaugh argued that McNabb didn’t deserve the spot, despite the fact that the Eagles had won the NFC Eastern Division the previous year.  </p>
<p>Rush was pulled off the air for those comments, which were widely regarded as racist. McNabb went on to win the Divisional title in that year, 2003, 2004, and made a comeback last year to take the Eagles to the 2008 Championship game. He won Pro-Bowl selections repeatedly.</p>
<p>Meanwhile Limbaughs version of accomplished Blacks are folks like Clarence Thomas.</p>
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		<title>By: sad4america</title>
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		<dc:creator>sad4america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Also state when these construction, road projects, improvements, and other infrastructure investments will start. Show the job creation numbers for that area and how long it will provide these jobs. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The students going to college to artificially delay the unemployment figures will then have greater access to financial aid. Great, now they will have 2-5 years to build up college debt among other living expenses debt because minimal jobs have been created. Right now we have the highest unemployment rate among College graduates. College is proof to employers that a person can get through college and has some level of determination. It doesn’t not necessarily translate to higher intelligence or even better job security. Learning how to be responsible with money would be the greatest class/learning experience that any person could receive. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again infrastructure is important but now it the time strictly for stimulus so the current college students have jobs when they graduate college, or high school or when any person decides to enter the workforce.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also state when these construction, road projects, improvements, and other infrastructure investments will start. Show the job creation numbers for that area and how long it will provide these jobs. </p>
<p>The students going to college to artificially delay the unemployment figures will then have greater access to financial aid. Great, now they will have 2-5 years to build up college debt among other living expenses debt because minimal jobs have been created. Right now we have the highest unemployment rate among College graduates. College is proof to employers that a person can get through college and has some level of determination. It doesn’t not necessarily translate to higher intelligence or even better job security. Learning how to be responsible with money would be the greatest class/learning experience that any person could receive. </p>
<p>Again infrastructure is important but now it the time strictly for stimulus so the current college students have jobs when they graduate college, or high school or when any person decides to enter the workforce.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/29/the-gop-tripling-down-on-the-shrinking-base/#comment-1811009</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“Rush didn’t say he wants Obama to fail” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually that’s PRECISELY what he said.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“He wants his policies to fail, not be passed.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The first part…not the second. He has said that he hopes that Obama’s policies…and the President DOES set the policy agenda for the country…will fail. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“He obviously wants America to prosper.” Not if it requires success of Obama or his policies. And he isn’t going to help make those work in anyway…he’s going to fight them, work to make them fail, and in doing so make the country unsuccessful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rush is already saying that he deserves control of billions, that he should be in charge of the budge, etc. Limbaugh wants to play petty Napoleon, an unelected demogogue who has never faced a real election claiming he deserves this power? He’s obviously insane.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Rush didn’t say he wants Obama to fail” </p>
<p>Actually that’s PRECISELY what he said.</p>
<p>“He wants his policies to fail, not be passed.”</p>
<p>The first part…not the second. He has said that he hopes that Obama’s policies…and the President DOES set the policy agenda for the country…will fail. </p>
<p>“He obviously wants America to prosper.” Not if it requires success of Obama or his policies. And he isn’t going to help make those work in anyway…he’s going to fight them, work to make them fail, and in doing so make the country unsuccessful.</p>
<p>Rush is already saying that he deserves control of billions, that he should be in charge of the budge, etc. Limbaugh wants to play petty Napoleon, an unelected demogogue who has never faced a real election claiming he deserves this power? He’s obviously insane.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/29/the-gop-tripling-down-on-the-shrinking-base/#comment-1811008</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are lots of people who somehow go to college and never see it as an experience to broaden their knowledge about the world and how different fields of knowledge can explain how that world operates. People can learn about that outside academia, by being well read, interacting with people with diverse backgrounds, seeing and listening to films and documentaries that explore various issues. Travelling and living in another culture (preferably more than one) is another way of doing it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But college is a time and opportunity to find others that have thought about their own fields intensely, who usually have a broader perspective themselves, and where you can meet and investigate a broad range of topics.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But many students only find that it challenges their preconceptions and stop up their ears, muddle through, and come out with only a narrow experience. They’ve wasted the opportunity.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are lots of people who somehow go to college and never see it as an experience to broaden their knowledge about the world and how different fields of knowledge can explain how that world operates. People can learn about that outside academia, by being well read, interacting with people with diverse backgrounds, seeing and listening to films and documentaries that explore various issues. Travelling and living in another culture (preferably more than one) is another way of doing it.</p>
<p>But college is a time and opportunity to find others that have thought about their own fields intensely, who usually have a broader perspective themselves, and where you can meet and investigate a broad range of topics.</p>
<p>But many students only find that it challenges their preconceptions and stop up their ears, muddle through, and come out with only a narrow experience. They’ve wasted the opportunity.</p>
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		<title>By: sad4america</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/29/the-gop-tripling-down-on-the-shrinking-base/#comment-1811006</link>
		<dc:creator>sad4america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ideas are great but only useful if you embrace them and use them. This is something I worked for and I feel I am successful. I am not rich but I have a plan. I don’t count on Social security but I do count on people to put their money into banks and banks in turn to loan money to me so I can invest in properties. Yes this will help me financially but also it will help people have great places to live with a responsible and caring landlord. It will help the community and my work in these areas will put money back into the community and the economy as a whole. I will also help the neighbors by having a respectable property to keep the values up. I will be able to do this because I have a vested interest. If the government would runs these, the people taking care of them would not have the same care because it would just be a job. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As far corporations are concerned, you are right we should raise taxes on them until they have only three choices…. 1. Leave the country to work in countries that are more business friendly. 2. Start losing so much money that they will need to be continuously bailed out by the government. 3. Go out of business. None of these help they all take tax money out of the country, loses American jobs, and makes our country weaker in the ever expanding global environment. Yes many businesses made bad decisions and they should not be bailed out.&lt;br /&gt;
Study history and economics to see that Bush and the Republicans are not the cause on our current crisis. If so would France and Germany have entered recessions before us, because they have many liberal views that many liberals would love to see here. Open your mind to all sides and carefully way your decisions. That goes for many things, if you are Christian study Islam, Judaism, and other religions. It will bring about better understanding of the world around you and maybe even a greater appreciation for your own faith, or your new faith…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ideas are great but only useful if you embrace them and use them. This is something I worked for and I feel I am successful. I am not rich but I have a plan. I don’t count on Social security but I do count on people to put their money into banks and banks in turn to loan money to me so I can invest in properties. Yes this will help me financially but also it will help people have great places to live with a responsible and caring landlord. It will help the community and my work in these areas will put money back into the community and the economy as a whole. I will also help the neighbors by having a respectable property to keep the values up. I will be able to do this because I have a vested interest. If the government would runs these, the people taking care of them would not have the same care because it would just be a job. </p>
<p>As far corporations are concerned, you are right we should raise taxes on them until they have only three choices…. 1. Leave the country to work in countries that are more business friendly. 2. Start losing so much money that they will need to be continuously bailed out by the government. 3. Go out of business. None of these help they all take tax money out of the country, loses American jobs, and makes our country weaker in the ever expanding global environment. Yes many businesses made bad decisions and they should not be bailed out.<br />
Study history and economics to see that Bush and the Republicans are not the cause on our current crisis. If so would France and Germany have entered recessions before us, because they have many liberal views that many liberals would love to see here. Open your mind to all sides and carefully way your decisions. That goes for many things, if you are Christian study Islam, Judaism, and other religions. It will bring about better understanding of the world around you and maybe even a greater appreciation for your own faith, or your new faith…</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
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		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I think that the Democrats should just point out all the “pork”  (i.e. road construction projects) that’s going into Republican states and districts. Then say “Repesentative “X” says that this infrastructural bill is simply pork and doesn’t create jobs….tell that to the people of *** County that would receive these jobs. He doesn’t want them?” Point this out in the local newspapers in every Republcan Congressional District and Red State. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Point out how the re-instatement of student financial aid will allow students going to the local University obtain the skills to become employed as well as reducing the burden on their middle class families. Note as well that if students are attending school they reduce the unemployment rolls and competition for the limited blue-collar jobs currently out there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the Democrats should just point out all the “pork”  (i.e. road construction projects) that’s going into Republican states and districts. Then say “Repesentative “X” says that this infrastructural bill is simply pork and doesn’t create jobs….tell that to the people of *** County that would receive these jobs. He doesn’t want them?” Point this out in the local newspapers in every Republcan Congressional District and Red State. </p>
<p>Point out how the re-instatement of student financial aid will allow students going to the local University obtain the skills to become employed as well as reducing the burden on their middle class families. Note as well that if students are attending school they reduce the unemployment rolls and competition for the limited blue-collar jobs currently out there.</p>
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		<title>By: earlofhuntingdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>earlofhuntingdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m not viciously “parodying” you, only people like you.  The “you”, of course, defined like a good government contractor, to include every male African American president of the United States, a large group to be sure, all of whom inherited the worst political and economic conditions since the Great Depression.  Glad that the ReichWing wasn’t just pandering to its shrinking base with dark racist “humor”.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I wonder when the Wingnut scholarships for Karl’s Klackers expire?  At least now, though, they don’t share in the White House’s discount on Internet connections from the RNC.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m not viciously “parodying” you, only people like you.  The “you”, of course, defined like a good government contractor, to include every male African American president of the United States, a large group to be sure, all of whom inherited the worst political and economic conditions since the Great Depression.  Glad that the ReichWing wasn’t just pandering to its shrinking base with dark racist “humor”.  </p>
<p>I wonder when the Wingnut scholarships for Karl’s Klackers expire?  At least now, though, they don’t share in the White House’s discount on Internet connections from the RNC.</p>
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		<title>By: Knut</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/29/the-gop-tripling-down-on-the-shrinking-base/#comment-1810955</link>
		<dc:creator>Knut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Give the troll a break.  He’s doing the best he can.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give the troll a break.  He’s doing the best he can.</p>
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		<title>By: MrToad</title>
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		<dc:creator>MrToad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To see only what you want to see is a remarkable gift.  It’s a pointless exercise to argue with you; I would only point out that allowing an unemployed taxpayer to keep more of what he earned is not terribly helpful; to allow a business to keep more of the profits that it isn’t getting because too many people can’t afford to buy things isn’t terribly helpful.  The Great Depression was worse, but this is just getting underway, and I don’t see any encouraging signs that tell me that Magic Republican Fairies waving tax-cut wands are going to make everything all better.  As for compromise, once again it was all on one side.  The GOP has done its level best to destroy this country, done very well at it, and to now demand that they should continue to get the benefits they refused to allow the opposition is the very definition of both insanity and Chutzpah.  The present House Republican leadership has less shame than Blagojevitch and fewer scruples than, well, even fictional characters like Dr. Lecter.  70 years and more the radical Republicans have followed their blind, visceral hatred of Roosevelt and all he stood for, and here we are.  Having driven from the GOP anyone with an ounce of common sense or patriotism, the reactionary core finally achieved the dream of their grand-fathers, and we are living in the result.  To continue to support their Ivory-tower corporatist fantasies marks you simply as a blind idealogue comparable to the Stalinist-apologists of the ’50s.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To see only what you want to see is a remarkable gift.  It’s a pointless exercise to argue with you; I would only point out that allowing an unemployed taxpayer to keep more of what he earned is not terribly helpful; to allow a business to keep more of the profits that it isn’t getting because too many people can’t afford to buy things isn’t terribly helpful.  The Great Depression was worse, but this is just getting underway, and I don’t see any encouraging signs that tell me that Magic Republican Fairies waving tax-cut wands are going to make everything all better.  As for compromise, once again it was all on one side.  The GOP has done its level best to destroy this country, done very well at it, and to now demand that they should continue to get the benefits they refused to allow the opposition is the very definition of both insanity and Chutzpah.  The present House Republican leadership has less shame than Blagojevitch and fewer scruples than, well, even fictional characters like Dr. Lecter.  70 years and more the radical Republicans have followed their blind, visceral hatred of Roosevelt and all he stood for, and here we are.  Having driven from the GOP anyone with an ounce of common sense or patriotism, the reactionary core finally achieved the dream of their grand-fathers, and we are living in the result.  To continue to support their Ivory-tower corporatist fantasies marks you simply as a blind idealogue comparable to the Stalinist-apologists of the ’50s.</p>
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