ZED.

Can we please find some beastiality or young boy sex scandal to knock Eric Cantor off my teevee? I will not be able to stand much more of his weasel-face sneering back at me.

oh, and Darryl Issa, too.

Blackwater out, and also army vests found flawed due to insufficient testing; more coverage about rape drug in CIA officers apt. What a record. Good Morning. Rush and Cheney should all be proud.

I see the Rethugs are still on their “Democrat” meme. The “Democrat” bill, the “Democrat” party, yadda yadda.

Hey, Issa! Yeah, you, shithead. Suck. on. this.

Dem chikns be comin’ home to roost.

A crowded chicken house, I’d say. Good Morning…been missing you.

So the question is now, do the Dems have the stones to forget this “bipartisan” nonsense and re-write a good, liberal, stimulus package?

I see no point in watering it down for the Repukes, they are NOT honest brokers, they will NOT support any final version. Since the Democrats are gonna get 100% of the credit or blame, it should be a real DEMOCRATIC bill.

Hey you two, get a room :D

May be we need to change the name to the Democrat party……that’d make the thugs PC. :-(

Just saw Coulter on the early show,I sense that the mouthpieces have been given quite a lot of media access,If I didn’t know any better I would swear that the repubs had won the election.

Good mornin’. I was particularly pleased with the Bilgewater news. Eric Prince’s little private security world was made from whole cloth and it’s nice to see some rips and tears appearing thereto.

Ha! Issa admitted that Obama will have a second term!

William Kristof put out some real junk.

The first step is to appoint a high-level commission — perhaps a McCain-Scowcroft Commission? — to investigate torture, secret detention and wiretapping during the Bush years, as well as to look ahead and offer recommendations for balancing national security and individual rights in the future.

Federal Whistle Blower protections were in with the stimulus. Anybody know if it passed?

http://www.whistleblowers.org/…..;Itemid=71

perhaps a McCain-Scowcroft Commission?

Now there’s a boondoggle we can all love.

It had been offered as an amendment to the bill and the amendment passed on Tuesday

Shockingly, our hero Heath Schuler (D-GOP) voted against the bill.
Maura Liasson should be servicing him on NPR any moment now.

I’m starting to think that Coulter, Limbaugh, and Hannity are being given so much press to show the American people clearly what nutcases the republicans are.

Thanks for the warning…why does she still get space? Maybe the plan in counter-intuitive and she’s being shown for the crazy voice she really is. Still don’t want to see her. Matt Lauer all but showed her the door last time.

I was listening to some of that dfh music last night. One of my favourite songs from Jefferson Airplane.

I’m hoping thats the case.

You from NC or does npr have him on right now?

I just saw a TX Republican warning, chastizing that we have passed all that debt on to our kids, grands…He did not mention the W role in all that. What a surprise.

And a Rush story on the Early Show…What a bonus this morning.

me, too. But honestly, I doubt it.

The Repubs’ actions clearly illustrate they’re still not serious about actually governing. Obama didn’t need their votes, but he asked for them, and by their actions the GOP has publicly confirmed they are irrelevant to the process of actually running the country.

The real question is whether the Democratic Party will use this great gift they’ve just received. Given their actions in the recent past, I would guess they will fritter it away while timidly acquiescing to outrageous right wing demands. But the opportunity exists…

oh JOY!

We need hot and cold running Dems on the airwaves.

In the immortal words of Trex:

Attack, attack, attack.

Why do you think they are called dittoheads?

Why is no one mentioning that the rethugs had decided to vote against the stimulous before they even met with Obama. Talk about bad faith!

Because as individuals they have no original thought?

Maybe more if this passes.
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” H. J. Res. 5:
111st Congress “

” Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President. “

http://www.govtrack.us/congres…..ll=hj111-5

Think Progress has an interesting chart showing how much more airtime the republicans have gotten than democrats on the stimulus package.

As Media Matters has documented, during the Bush administration, the media consistently allowed conservatives to dominate their shows, booking them as guests far more often than progressives. The rationale was that Republicans were “in power.”

I don’t think there’s any doubt that the Rethugs are gonna be the monkey wrench in the works for the next 2 years. I guess 2 whacks with the million ton shit hammer wasn’t enough.

Ding! and Rush tells them what to think

I guess the media missed both 4 Nov and 20 Jan. Must be usin’ a Rethug calendar.

Merely a prediction based on past experience.
Schuler is NPR’s go-to guy to show the future of the Democrat party.

That’ll never pass. Imagine if Bush had a third term…

Wow, please don’t make me. We would be packing it in.

More dfh music. Great pix of the Chrome Nun. I was so in love with her in those days.

Oh, lor’! Don’t listen to npr anymore and didn’t realize they were using my POS rep as their source of reality. I’m still trying to decide whether we did ourselves *any* favors by getting rid of the worthless thug he replaced. :-(

Limbaugh vs DCCC…
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” He has a headline banner linking back to the DCCC’s comment pages, asking readers to load them up with demands to stop lying about the stimulus bill and stop distorting Rush’s remarks. “

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0128.html

There’s no way there’s any “thinking” involved.

No comment to that thought..I’d be censored.. ‘g’

me too!

Me three.

There was a story that DeLay kept a penalty jar in his office. Anyone saying Democratic had to insert a dollar.

Dunno if it’s apocryphal. Tough googling DeLay and money jar..

This is a no brainer. The talking heads are well paid and vested in the status quo. The owners and executives of media companies are MORE wealthy and MORE vested in the status quo. This is not a conspiracy. This is just people looking out for their own SELFISH INTERESTS.

Republican ideology appeals to the basest instincts in humans – G R E E D. They believe is policies which all people to amass wealth and power and to SHARE as little as possible, They don’t care about the commons anyone outside their very narrow SELFISH interests. They are narcissists and dishonest. Their only interest in government is to get more wealth and power and have less interference in the pursuit of wealth, money and power. If destroying a government agency furthers their selfish interest, so be it. Incompetence is not an accident i those cases, it is purposeful.

He better stay out of small planes.
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” Dennis Kucinich States His Intention To Put The Federal Reserve Under Government Control “

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r_-QRKyu6g

wouldn’t surprise me, man he’s an odious person.

ok, I just watched that youtube and I happen to agree with Issa

obama’s plan does not fund anything, he’s giving tax gifts for no reason when what we need are jobs

issa makes the point, (I don’t know if I believe him), that if the bill contained all infrastructure spending he would have voted for it

I am with him on that, we need jobs we don’t need tax breaks

here’s a point;

my friends wanted to get together for a cruise.

I have money in the bank and can easily afford that cruise, however I do not think I am going to have a job next month so I can’t spend the mad money, it’s not mad money anymore it’s bill security.

if there were jobs to go and get I would have no problem spending my mad money

THAT is the phsycology of our economy now, giving me a tax break is not going to get me to spend that tax break, having accesable jobs will.

once in a while the republicans have something valuable to say and I believe that youtube is saying something valuable

morning pups.

ot – today’s congressional hearing list is up at oxdown.

I have a diary on it

thanx selise! *goes to look*

I wrote my note to CBS….why would anyone give time to a lying, screaming Ann Coulter. Absurd.

We need to have Krugman back here and run by him the suggestions Issa is presenting and see what Krugman has to say about it…

Obama made it clear about no pride of ownership — if you have better ideas draft them and explain how they are better…Didn’t hear much before the Bill hit the House. Looks bad for the Repugs to be complaining now and not moving faster before the Bill came up for a vote. Now they come off as obstructionists.

I would also like to remind Issa:

For each person present at the Obama Inauguration, each individual represented 239 US citizens who approve of how Obama is doing right now. That’s 238,451,499 that approve sir.

thanks selise, good morning to you.
How come the House is off until Monday? overstimulated?

Thanks for keeping up with these.
See that Joe Lie is having a HS business mtg.- Going to keep after Obama

We need to have Krugman back here and run by him the suggestions Issa is presenting and see what Krugman has to say about it…

while I can’t speak for krugman I would bet he agrees with what issa said in that youtube

the tax cuts are not gonna help, we all agree with that point, that is not a republican point issa made right there it’s a democratic point

we need to rebuild our infrastructure, we’ve been saying that since we first looked at obama’s bill and it’s as if issa is reading our writing here at the lake

look, he is co-opting some populist points of view from the democrats and I agree with them

AP:

The Labor Department says the number of laid-off workers continuing to claim unemployment insurance for the week ending Jan. 17 was a seasonally adjusted 4.78 million, the highest since records began in 1967.

you are most welcome. i think the house republicans have some kind of a planning retreat – but i’m not sure about that.

Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

Morning..I had wandered away..Honestly, I hope he stays safe.

What’s there to plan? Do they need 4 days to figure out how to vote “Nay?”

Obama is an Israel firster officially now if this is correct.
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” Mitchell told Israeli officials that the new administration was committed to Israel’s security, to the road map, and to the 2004 letter by president George W. Bush stating Palestinian refugees would not return to Israel and the border between Israel and the Palestinian Authority would take into consideration facts on the ground, meaning large settlement blocs would remain in Israeli hands.”

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1059730.html

One thing we may not be able to pass on to our grandchildren, thanks to the Republicans, is a large and strong middle class.

I am not stating I disagree with Issa, I am making the point that he came forward after the vote and did not present much beforehand when he was given the chance. So he played politics instead of working towards a better Bill beforehand. I agree the bill should be all stim and no tax cuts.

My point on Krugman is, if there is substance to Issa’s points, then get a trusted economic voice to support the substance because I do not think anyone trusts a Repug view on the economy right now.

krugman from last night: Zero lower bound

The House has passed the stimulus bill with not a single Republican vote.

Aren’t you glad that Obama watered it down and added ineffective tax cuts, so as to win bipartisan support?

Advertising dollars.. many like to watch a freak show.

The thugs are having a four-day meeting (in deecee, iirc) during which time they are going to try to find their souls.

Truth.

Hang on a tick and I’ll go find the linky I put up in an earlier thread.

Bye SD, spread some smiles.

LOLOL

retreat to find their souls — good luck with that, R’s!

That’s a great line. A great understatement too.
Just ask Loo Hoo.
Ackkkkkk.
Oh, and good morning one and all.

Obama ran on tax cuts for the middle class, so I guess he has to keep his promise. I don’t want my cut either, I’d much rather it go for healthcare for people who need it.

Bernie Sanders coming up on WJ

I’m with you. Especially mental health care.

if true that is very bad news. not a direct quote though, so here’s hoping it’s didn’t happen as reported.

Elliott -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..id=topnews

[snip]
So very, very much for the Republican to ponder in this Winter of the Democrats’ Contentment.
[snip]
It is into this new world order, this Washington version of an existential whorl, that a steadfastly loyal group of Republicans descend this week, skidding into an iced-over landscape and holing up at the Capital Hilton beginning yesterday for a four-day winter meeting of the Republican National Committee. (Not to be missed on the restorative agenda: a “Reboot the RNC” open house.) They’ve themed the whole get-together “Republican for a Reason,” and left it at that.
[snip]
So, what’s a Republican to do? Definitely some “soul-searching,” says John Czwartacki, who was a top aide to then-Sen.Trent Lott in better times for Republicans.
[snip]

G

ood luck with that soul-searching, Czwartacki. Last I checked, it’s nigh on to impossible finding something that doesn’t exist.

See — told ya they were lookin’ for it. *G*

Postpartisanship=fancy word for spineless. Rs showed Obama for the fool he is.

Good morning, demi. I still get the heebie jeebies when I think about that meeting!

Here’s hoping, but it would fit with his speech to AIPAC.

but the tax cuts obama ran on were revenue neutral. the tax cuts in the “stimulus” bill are not… so i think they are very different animals – however, would be happy to be corrected if i have that wrong.

Thanks!

Christy’s up
As Peanut Butter Recall Spreads, Calls for Better Food Safety Accellerate

Yessireebob. I still have my notes. When I read klynn’s comment that I referenced, I thought of Phil’s line…”He’s just another bored millionaire.”
Just realized I didn’t control v the line I wanted to reference.
So he played politics instead of working towards a better Bill beforehand.
That’s the line that’s perfect for a bored millionaire.

thank you – turning sanders on now. i could use a voice of reason after listening to far to much of the house debate.

btw, that reminds me, hugh says blago is expected to make a statement today at his impeachment hearing.

Oh..great..here speaks the likely winner of Israel’s election.
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” Asked about achieving peace in Gaza, Netanyahu swiftly turned his answer to Iran, which he said is in a “100-yard dash” to get nuclear weapons. “

” While he did not specify any planned military action, Netanyahu said that, if the Iranian rulers were “neutralized,” the danger posed to Israel and others by Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah militants in south Lebanon would be reduced. “

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl…..le/8333039

Ah-ha! Now your comment @ 73 tracks!

#73 was pre-coffee.
Better late than never, tho, right?

I get those pre-coffee vs post coffee moments too. Still working on my first cuppa as I type.

Issa does not get how bad this makes the Repugs look. I imagine the four day Repug conference is some reinforcement of the party disfunction and probably an effort to further develop their “hero complex”. An intervention and a good 12-Step program would be time better spent for the GOP.

Issa does not CARE how bad this makes the repugs look.
Loo Hoo and I met with his deputy assistant 2 summers ago and the meeting was drop jaw scary. It was startling to realize how completely different our thinking and caring is.

” U.S. troops in Iraq suffered electrical shocks about every three days in a two-year period, according to an internal Defense Contract Management Agency report obtained by the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, a McClatchy newspaper — or 231 incidents in all, from a single company, the former Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown & Root. “

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0129.html

Yep, he’s been given an hour and 1/2…Creeps.

Goes along with all the insufficient body armor….when are some families going to rant, scream, and sue…these are our kids, after all. Let’s send W out to do some inspecting. He is so thoughtful and thorough.

I am not surprised. That’s why I used the word “get”…It has been clear for a while that he does not care.

I honestly believe he does not “get” the 78%.

these people may voice their opinions with grandure but they also voice opinions that merit discussion. These “horrible” conservatives invite liberal attacks and let them speck loudly on thier shows because in many cases they have a intelligent retort. Liberal media just wants them to shut up becuase 1. lack of information or insightful knowledge of the issues. or 2. they don’t want people to see the options they have because then people would see that government is really designed to give people all the tools neccessary to make this country great. The government should depend on the people not the people depending on the government. Every government intrusion comes with a loss of freedom for her people. The government has set up rules that all must abide by, black, white, young, old, rich and poor. People need to stop crying to change the rules and instead focus on using the rules to their greatest potential. A handout and help can only get you so far. You don’t take in an injured animal to keep it forever, you help it recover than let it go prosper on its own power.