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	<title>Comments on: Old King Coal Indeed: Global Warming Could Last &#8220;1,000 Years&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: chasalex</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/27/old-king-coal-indeed-global-warming-could-last-1000-years/#comment-1809233</link>
		<dc:creator>chasalex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was interested to find firedoglake and read the comments. 20 years ago I had a book published on different economic concepts to point the way to a sustainable world economy. Someone who liked the book contacted me this year to suggest that I update and re-publish it as a blog. She set up the blog, and the book is now complete on the blog in a series of postings. There are now also additional pieces on global warming and other subjects. Here is the link:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economicsforaroundearth.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.economicsforaroundearth.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With all good wishes,&lt;br /&gt;
Charles Pierce&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was interested to find firedoglake and read the comments. 20 years ago I had a book published on different economic concepts to point the way to a sustainable world economy. Someone who liked the book contacted me this year to suggest that I update and re-publish it as a blog. She set up the blog, and the book is now complete on the blog in a series of postings. There are now also additional pieces on global warming and other subjects. Here is the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.economicsforaroundearth.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.economicsforaroundearth.com</a></p>
<p>With all good wishes,<br />
Charles Pierce</p>
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		<title>By: Dismayed</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/27/old-king-coal-indeed-global-warming-could-last-1000-years/#comment-1808978</link>
		<dc:creator>Dismayed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There’s no cleaning up coal.  When fossil fuels are burned CO2 is created.  It’s the primary gassious product of combustion.  It can’t be reduced in any meaningful way as combustion processes are already pretty darn efficient, being less efficient means wasting fuel dollars and the economics of idustries took care of that long ago.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This idea of carbon sequester is science fiction, it always will be.  The volumes are astronomical, and the idea that they’re going to compress it and drive it into salt domes is quiet honestly, just plain silly.  It’s just junk science to give people a false sense that something can and is being done.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Nuclear is the only bridge we have to a future of clean renewable power.  The technology is here to do it safely.  As unpalitable as it is to many it’s all we have.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember folks, carbon emission from fossil fuels have to go to ZERO.  That’s the only answer.  There’s no getting around it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s no such thing as clean coal - never will be.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s no cleaning up coal.  When fossil fuels are burned CO2 is created.  It’s the primary gassious product of combustion.  It can’t be reduced in any meaningful way as combustion processes are already pretty darn efficient, being less efficient means wasting fuel dollars and the economics of idustries took care of that long ago.</p>
<p>This idea of carbon sequester is science fiction, it always will be.  The volumes are astronomical, and the idea that they’re going to compress it and drive it into salt domes is quiet honestly, just plain silly.  It’s just junk science to give people a false sense that something can and is being done.</p>
<p>Nuclear is the only bridge we have to a future of clean renewable power.  The technology is here to do it safely.  As unpalitable as it is to many it’s all we have.</p>
<p>Remember folks, carbon emission from fossil fuels have to go to ZERO.  That’s the only answer.  There’s no getting around it.</p>
<p>There’s no such thing as clean coal &#8211; never will be.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If we’re going to have battery cars and use wall plug-ins to charge them and neither coal nor nuclear is satisfactory, then we had better ramp up other energy sources and the modern electric grid in a hurry!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How long will that transition take?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the mean time does it hurt anything to clean up coal?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No, coal is not a long-term solution, but it’ll be here a while, so why not clean it up some?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we’re going to have battery cars and use wall plug-ins to charge them and neither coal nor nuclear is satisfactory, then we had better ramp up other energy sources and the modern electric grid in a hurry!</p>
<p>How long will that transition take?</p>
<p>In the mean time does it hurt anything to clean up coal?</p>
<p>No, coal is not a long-term solution, but it’ll be here a while, so why not clean it up some?</p>
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		<title>By: TheLurkingMod</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/27/old-king-coal-indeed-global-warming-could-last-1000-years/#comment-1808914</link>
		<dc:creator>TheLurkingMod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Eli is upstairs!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/27/the-return-of-science-and-democracy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Return Of Science… And Democracy&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eli is upstairs!<br /><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/27/the-return-of-science-and-democracy/" rel="nofollow">The Return Of Science… And Democracy</a></p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The question is IF and HOW we as a species might survive. Or not. ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question is IF and HOW we as a species might survive. Or not. ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Dismayed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dismayed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;All I’ve got to say to this is - Duh.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CO2 levels began creeping up at the very beginning of the industrial revolution when global fossil fuel use was less than 1% of what it is today.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That said, if you want atmospheric level of CO to level off, much less decrease, emissions must go to a level lower than at the beginning of the industrial revolution - that’s right, damn near zero.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;back before we knew how to make fire, it took 100s of thousands of years for the planet (then loaded with plant life) to reduce atmospheric CO2 levels by anything like the last century’s increase, there’s no damn reason what-so-ever to think it will happen any faster the next time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyone with half a brain doesn’t need a team of scientist to tell them some fairy tell about how things might be well and good in a thousand years.  It won’t.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The question is now just how screwed are things going to be in a thousand years, and we’re still headed the wrong way on a fast train.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Carbon emissions must go to ZERO in the next few decades.  That’s the truth no one wants to tell you.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I’ve got to say to this is &#8211; Duh.</p>
<p>CO2 levels began creeping up at the very beginning of the industrial revolution when global fossil fuel use was less than 1% of what it is today.</p>
<p>That said, if you want atmospheric level of CO to level off, much less decrease, emissions must go to a level lower than at the beginning of the industrial revolution &#8211; that’s right, damn near zero.</p>
<p>back before we knew how to make fire, it took 100s of thousands of years for the planet (then loaded with plant life) to reduce atmospheric CO2 levels by anything like the last century’s increase, there’s no damn reason what-so-ever to think it will happen any faster the next time.</p>
<p>Anyone with half a brain doesn’t need a team of scientist to tell them some fairy tell about how things might be well and good in a thousand years.  It won’t.</p>
<p>The question is now just how screwed are things going to be in a thousand years, and we’re still headed the wrong way on a fast train.</p>
<p>Carbon emissions must go to ZERO in the next few decades.  That’s the truth no one wants to tell you.</p>
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		<title>By: nonplussed</title>
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		<dc:creator>nonplussed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Right on, Bro! Screw em, we should know by now that they’re snakes. It’s only a matter of how venomous…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, Bro! Screw em, we should know by now that they’re snakes. It’s only a matter of how venomous…</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernDragon</title>
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		<dc:creator>SouthernDragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s rare for any communication to get further up the line than staffers.  I want them to know there’s at least one angry citizen out here.  I’m tired of being nice to a government that shits on us.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/3232965582_23987c0b55_o.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Global warming protest&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s rare for any communication to get further up the line than staffers.  I want them to know there’s at least one angry citizen out here.  I’m tired of being nice to a government that shits on us.</p>
<p><a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/3232965582_23987c0b55_o.jpg" rel="nofollow">Global warming protest</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
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		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;sorry, nonplussed i can’t watch anymore congress today. just too fucking depressing. tomorrow i’ll try again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, nonplussed i can’t watch anymore congress today. just too fucking depressing. tomorrow i’ll try again.</p>
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		<title>By: nahant</title>
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		<dc:creator>nahant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 00:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But the incoming Secretary had nothing to do with it! I was a Bush gift! Besides being nice may get their attention… maybe..&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the incoming Secretary had nothing to do with it! I was a Bush gift! Besides being nice may get their attention… maybe..</p>
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