Why take the smallest modicum of responsibility when you can shit your pants instead?

Republicans die a thousand deaths, while the brave die but once.

President Barack Obama. Disgraced former president George Bush. I can’t help myself, it just sounds so good!

Morning Attaturk

But then again, George Bush was President for two terms and may have even been elected once.

Skating on some mighty thin ice there, aren’t we? ;-)

The neocon bigots are everywhere, the EU is not immune. Not only are most of the heads of government using the same hymnal as George W. Bush, (and being close political cousins), the bureaucracy is being headed by their appointees. To think this propaganda infested bigot is in charge of anything humanitarian buggers the imagination. This fecker needs to go.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7851545.stm

Good morning.
I hadn’t thought about the German prisoners we had here even working on farms & the R’s are freaking out over a few hundred today. Very good point I plan to use when I hear some local wingnut start parroting the scare mongers. R’s are practiced at cherry picking history.

I keep thinking conservatives will stop denying the past while simultaneously living in it. And I’m perpetually wrong. So I guess they’d tell me it is all my fault.

If we could house hundreds of thousands of Germans, including thousands of Nazi officers and SS members, behind mere barbed-wire fences in rural America (often in ethnically German communities) in the 1940s, I think we can manage to keep less than three hundred people in an American prison. Why we even let German POWs gather together and sing the “Die Wacht am Rhein” without the competing “La Marseillaise” smackdown. Yet, somehow we managed to win the war and survive. Go figure.

excellant, simply excellant attaturk, I think we all need to save this paragraph and your link and email it to progressive “pundits” so they are armed with just the right information combined with sufficient incredulous snark to smack down the corporate propagandists trying to defend the bush/cheney crimes

and that’s what’s going on here we might add, bush/cheney/rove have all the guns out defending their crimes, they way they are doing that is by attacking anyone who they say would not commit the same crimes

that is an effective weapon, making believe those that would not have committed the war crimes they comnited are the criminals

we need to make sure that tool of theirs does not work

But then again, George Bush was President for two terms and may have even been elected once.

he was elected neither term, it was a coup and our government was under siege

Good morning, pups. It’s Bobo and Herbert today. Bobo thinks he can instruct us on “What Life Asks of Us.” He says there is another, older way of living, and it was discussed in a neglected book by the political scientist Hugh Heclo. In this way of living, we are defined by what life asks of us. Um, Bobo, sometimes books are neglected because they suck. Just sayin’… Mr. Herbert, in “The Same Old Song,” says Republican policies have brought the country to a deplorable state. But the party is still at it, attacking President Obama’s stimulus plan and calling for ever more tax cuts. Well, whine, cut taxes and piddle their pants at the thought of terrorists is all they know how to do.

Here they are.

The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and the biscuits are out of the oven. Don’t forget to stock up on popcorn so you can be ready for Gov. Rod “I’m a delusional martyr” Blagojevich’s appearance on Rachel Maddow’s show this evening. I might even splurge on spinach dip and tortilla chips… (That’s a splurge because of all of that delicious mayonnaise and sour cream.) Have a great day.

It wasn’t under siege, but the elections were “stolen” and who knows how many down ticket races were also. Once they got to control our government they used the power to get rich, help their actual and ideological friends get rich, and showed complete contempt for the law and constitution as well as just plain sensible policy.

To say Bush fiddled while America burned is hardly an exaggeration. I sure the people of NOLA would agree.

What’s important to recognize in this debate is, that we ARE a very elite country with a prison industrial complex, second to none, or at least very damn few. We have the best and biggest prisons of anywhere, with the biggest and toughest guards (China and N.Korea ( tough, but mostly small), and we have a lot of love to share – as in tough love. We also have alot of people who may need aplace to stay as we continue to empty houses of the not so deserving ( they should have known better than try to attain something they couldn’t afford).

Stimulating the prison economy offers a double bang for the buck, more employment and profits for the corporations that depend on this income and a remarkably secure place to house people We also enjoy the highest per captia incarceration rate of any country in the world and we could help distance ourselves from those green with envy States like Egypt, China, Pakistan who covet our top spot in this competitive and not just symbolic arena of running a well behaved country. People seen to overlook that we have a faltering economy that could use a stimulus and our prison industrial complex has performed admirably, and could, by expanding its constituency, provide lots of jobs in construction and of course guarding dangerous criminals like marijuana users, pornographers (not good ones like Clarence Thomas) and would also be in keeping with our welcome engraved on the Statue of Liberty, “”Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” We can incarcerate them for a suitable amount of time, providing employment for our disserving citizens.

We all know that for the message (or the Statue) to have any meaning at all that rights like due process, Habeass Corpus, rules of evidence can not be just shared with anyone, why would anyone even want to come here if they could enjoy what we fought for and earned with the blood of our forefathers. We recognize that these rights are a privilege not to be shared willy nilly with the rest of the world cnn captured it better than even Sarah Palin could have expressed it right HERE. I join you in applauding our prison system but caution we shouldn’t lose sight of what else could be at stake here like letting our ideals and values be commandered by people who don’t deserve them. We should also give the Bush Administration credit for letting Americans know that they can’t just take this stuff for granted, that certain misbehaviors can result in their loss, individually speaking of course. Respectfully submitted in Christian, inspirational way, Knowdoubt

The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and the biscuits are out of the oven. Don’t forget to stock up on popcorn so you can be ready for Gov. Rod “I’m a delusional martyr” Blagojevich’s appearance on Rachel Maddow’s show this evening. I might even splurge on spinach dip and tortilla chips… (That’s a splurge because of all of that delicious mayonnaise and sour cream.) Have a great day.

yum

What’s important to recognize in this debate is, that we ARE a very elite country with a prison industrial complex, second to none, or at least very damn few. We have the best and biggest prisons of anywhere, with the biggest and toughest guards (China and N.Korea ( tough, but mostly small), and we have a lot of love to share – as in tough love. We also have alot of people who may need aplace to stay as we continue to empty houses of the not so deserving ( they should have known better than try to attain something they couldn’t afford).

Stimulating the prison economy offers a double bang for the buck, more employment and profits for the corporations that depend on this income and a remarkably secure place to house people

I agree but for private prisions, I want prisons out of the private sector again, there can be no profit in keeping someone in jail, that is counter productive

otherwise you make a great point

An Israeli soldier was killed by a bomb. You just know what Livni is going to do now. For all we know, the soldiers might have connected with one of their own leftovers from a cluster bomb. I fear that many more Palestinians are about to die and this incident will be used as an excuse to stop aid from crossing the border.
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” Heavy gunfire was audible along the border in central Gaza and Israeli helicopters hovered in the air, firing bursts from their machine guns, Palestinian witnesses said.”

http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1059156.html

Thanks. I really liked this from bobo:

Journalism imposes habits that help reporters keep a mental distance from those they cover.

George Bush convinced some Americans that we are weak in the face of the terrorists. Bringing the prisoners to America scares them. Poor babies.

Obama ought to have them all brought to some federal prison here without notice. If the politicians wet their pants, tough.

“Israel stymies French push to lift European boycott of Hamas “

” France wanted the statement to say that the European Union would be prepared to hold talks with a future Palestinian unity government that agreed to honor the principles of the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. “

Rove’s attorney has spoken!

“It’s generally agreed that former presidents retain executive privilege as to matters occurring during their term. We’ll solicit the views of the new White House counsel and, if there is a disagreement, assume that the matter will be resolved among the courts, the president and the former president.”

There is also the effect of bringing prisoners here and treating them humanely. Not nicely, not some weird conservative fantasy of how liberals want to show love to terrorists, but to give them a safe, secure, humane incarceration. We did this, to a large degree, to the German prisoners, and they never resented or hated the Americans for fighting them, beating them on the field of war, for killing their compatriots and fellow soldiers.

Simple decency meted out to people who expect savagery and cruelty can be transformative. It is a central propaganda weapon needed to win the war.

Yeah. That line almost made me squirt tea through my nose. He then proceeds to “tsk tsk” at bankers for betraying their code. It’s too rich!

of course we knew he would defy subpeona however someone on marcy’s thread reminds us rove never invoked executive priviledge

I will come back with that link

Through the magic of the interwebs I bring you Emptywheel. [bows down to Teh Great Gazoogle]

linkeroo

rove did not claim executive priviledg and I wonder if his lawyer even knows that

I agree but for private prisions, I want prisons out of the private sector again, there can be no profit in keeping someone in jail, that is counter productive

Enough of the rush to privatization in prisons, armies, interrogations, etc and lets get rid of privatization in health care while we are at it.

PLease finish before submitting….. there are some things that the gummint and only the gummint should be responsible for, that is why we have taxes.

what is the beverage of choice?

Wow! I missed this yesterday.

United Nations expert on torture says that there is clear evidence to convict Rumsfeld, and that investigations need to be conducted in the US.

tee hee, thomas jefferson, a couple of quotes all progressives need to keep handy;

Jefferson, his letter to Madison,

“[a]nother means of silently lessening the inequality of property . . . is
to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they
rise.”

yup, jefferson comes as close to inventing the progressive tax right there however I believe it was thomas paine who jefferson was agreeing with on that quote

here’s another;

“Our revenues once liberated by the discharge of the public debt, and its
surplus applied to canals, roads, schools, &c., and the farmer will see his
government supported, his children educated, and the face of his country
made a paradise by the contributions of the rich alone, without his being
called on to spend a cent from his earnings.”

jefferson was not against wealth he was for the wealthy paying the bills
that created wealth

Hope EW has a post on this today!

I think I’ll settle on a beer to enjoy with my popcorn while watching Rachel this evening. Thanks!

beer it is, will stop by with said mini keg…and which beer would that be?

loo hoo, all I can say is WOO HOO!

now to do

I’ll leave that up to you, as long as it’s not Budweiser!

am bringing samuel adams, now I need to google savannah and set sail,,,might not make it in time though!

brrrr! Good Morning, tonight the snows come with icy rain.
So the hot chocolate and biscuits are much appreciated, Marion

7:00 JOHN WILLIAMS
Shadow Government Statistics (website)
Founder
http://www.shadowstats.com

Topic: Guest’s shadownstats.com website calculates that the jobless rate is a full l0 percent higher than the government is reporting. He can also discuss the news Monday morning that American companies (including Sprint, Home Depot) are cutting about 43,000 jobs.

7:30-8:00 BOB CUSACK
The Hill
Newsdesk Managing Editor
http://www.thehill.com

8:00-8:30 REP. PAUL KANJORSKI D-Pennsylvania, 11th District
Capitol Markets Subcommittee Chair

Topic: The House begins debate on its version of the economic stimulus proposal. Guest will discuss the legislation as well as the latest on the troubled assets relief program.

8:30-9:00 REP. MARK STEVEN KIRK R-Illinois, 10th District
Appropriations Committee http://www.house.gov/kirk

Topic: The House begins debate on its version of the economic stimulus proposal. Guest will discuss the legislation as well as the latest on the troubled assets relief program.

9:00-10:00 MICHAEL STANTON
Association of International Automobile Manufacturers
President & CEO http://www.aiam.org

STEVE COCHRAN
Environmental Defense Fund
National Climate Campaign, Director http://www.edf.org

Topic: President Obama signed two presidential memorandums Monday on emissions standards for automobiles. The first memorandum asks the EPA to reconsider the Bush administration’s denial of a waiver to California and more than a dozen other states to seek tougher auto emissions standards than the current federal level. The second presidential memorandum directs Transportation Secretary LaHood to, by March, finalize the fuel efficiency standards for cars for 2011 and to make recommendations for beyond that year, an action expected to lead to stricter fuel efficiency standards.

ELLIOTTTT!!!

perrrrissss!

this is the perfect smackdown of the right’s booga booga argument.

“The Paranoid Style In American Politics”

http://karws.gso.uri.edu/jfk/c…..style.html