EPU’ed regarding the stimulus package:
As I see it, we’re playing fair with facts and reason. The repubs are playing dirty with distortions and one-line zingers. And Obama seems to not want to criticize repubs in the spirit of bipartisanship. I think O’s wrong. So, we’ll keep trying to clear up the lies they’re telling in gentlemanly ways and they’ll keep bloodying us. Who do you think will win?

z3d

missed it by ‘ ‘ much!

Morning BT, Looks like the rethugs are going to be on full court press with their bogus claims.

wooohooooo … “This is William Kristol’s last column.”

what an awesome sentence to read on a cold monday morning….

Must go. If I see a dem stand up today and say ‘enough of the lies’ then slam the repubs for their obstructionism, I’ll feel better. What are my chances?

For the last 8 years the grand ole party did not see a bill coming out of the WH that it disliked. It’s a new day in America and it seems only republicans are qualified to run congress. So much for bi-partisanship huh Mr. McCain?

The next battle is going to be healthcare seems like the industry has been planning their strategies for a while and is so confident that they are now flaunting it.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0125.html

Although completely predicted, it’s still funny to see the Repub selective memory operations at work, and how the BigMedia amplifies it ad nauseum.

Repubs controlled Congress from 1994-2006, and the White House 2000-2008 (I’d say 1980-2008 since BigMoney got EVERYTHING they wanted under Clinton), and yet, the BigMedia mavens are already treating Repubs as the “responsible” Party concerned about the “American people,” while Dems are those crazy tax and spenders who hve no idea what they’re doing.

The truth is…Liberalism would’ve prevented this current collapse, and Liberalism is the only thing that will get us out. If Obama’s plan don’t work, it’ll be because his plans weren’t Liberal enough.

One more thing..I’m watching MSNBC. The banners are all quotes from repubs ‘wasteful spending’, ‘major rewrite needed’. O’s got to realize that there’s no dealing with these people.

Hummingbirds above the clouds in the glow of the rising sun on Discovery’s Sunrise Earth.

Yes, screechy Mary Matalin was on Imus this morning. Yes, Mr. Sunshine immediately turned the channel. Why do you ask?

Obama needs to do a major speech on economic policy and why people and businesses do better under Democratic leadership, just as he did his speech about race.

Cass Sunstein as “regulatory czar”!?! I have a very bad feeling about that guy. During a debate with Glenn Greenwald, IIRC, he essentially said that he opposes prosecution of Bush administration officials unless something really egregious turns up. WTF?

saw this in the Guardian,is he related to HANKY PANKY?

John Paulson, hedge fund boss
He has been described as the “world’s biggest winner” from the credit crunch, earning $3.7bn (£1.9bn) in 2007 by “shorting” the US mortgage market – betting that the housing bubble was about to burst. In an apparent response to criticism that he was profiting from misery, Paulson gave $15m to a charity aiding people fighting foreclosure.
CHEAP BASTARD gave 13 million to charity

He has to go before the public to circumvent the Republican bs that the corporate media is so willing to promote. Use the bully pulpit and take the Republicans and a corrupted, complicit and compromised corporate media head on. If he continues to try and garner bipartisanship with Republicans he will play right into their hands.

Oops! Here’s the link: http://www.latimes.com/news/pr…..ory?page=1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Paulson
no relation
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Something entirely egregious did turn up, the Bush administration.

This is a nice story! Skateboarding in Kabul.

why is McLame such a GLUTTON FOR PUNISHMENT?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OunCv-7qvA

No more swill from Sardonicus in NYT. Hooyah!!

Since I don’t have a subscription to The Weekly Neocon guess I’ll just have to revert to going to its site to see what the neocon wingnuts are writing.

Due process = objectively pro-terrorist.

Journalists are usually very careful to distinguish between “alleged thief” and “thief,” even in the case of Bernie Madoff, but they drop those distinctions when writing about alleged terrorists. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever seen the phrase “alleged terrorist” in the MSM, but maybe that’s my oversight.

In any case, the vast majority of people incarcerated at Guantanamo have turned out to be innocent men and not terrorists at all, as witnessed by the fact that the Bush Administration let them go without even trying them.

journalits? dont know any

GOP leaders balk at stimulus

They sure didn’t have any problems throwing $700B at their friends on Wall Street. Throw that amount at the citizens? “No fuckin’ way. All they do is vote us into [or out of] office.”

i had NO IDEA, [that] was considered VIOLENT

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That’s doubly important in this case. Paulson is not accused of anything worse than winning the lottery. He simply placed a shrewd bet in the crap shoot at the center of our economy and won.

Is “terrorism” actually a crime defined under law? I think the term has been so over-broadly used and misused in the last 8 years as to be worthless. One man’s terrorist is another’s patriot. Ugh.

Looks like you and the mod are headin’ for a pissin’ contest.

Well, Bilbo, looks like the mod is winning, fer now. That was supposed to be in response to sadlyyes’s comment that got deleted.

Terrorism is a recognized legal term and even contributing to “terrorist organizations” or “making terrorist threats” are federal crimes.

But I agree with those who say that terrorism is a tactic, and that one man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter.

Krugman. Gotta love a guy who ends a NYT’s opinion piece with:

The most encouraging thing I’ve heard lately is Mr. Obama’s reported response to Republican objections to a spending-oriented economic plan: “I won.” Indeed he did — and he should disregard the huffing and puffing of those who lost.

This is a great opinion piece. Krugman needs to be heard far and wide.

This clip provides a small dose of Cass Sunstein. He explains the Nudge principle (Christ, they called Al Gore a pedant! Listen to this guy.):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD-fUJs5t_k

one man’s terrorist is another’s freedom fighter.

Yeppurs. I’m surprised Shrub’s jackbooted minions didn’t arrest us (SPFP) for supporting Palestinians. Supporting terrorists an’ all, doncha know.

Here’s Sunstein’s wife, Samantha Power, explaining her error in judgment in calling Hillary a monster:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..re=related

I want to know why there’s a 1-3 week shipping wait for his Depression Economics book on Amazon.

It looks like the Obama administration, barred from examining Gitmo case files until Obama took office, are in total disaray.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..eheadlines
Whoda thunk it?

Look, if the MSM are going to pick up the Repug whine of “tax cuts not spending on growth,” then the blogs need to hit back and have Krugman do the rounds and back a stimulus plan big time…Something on the order of our FISA battle.

Gitmo case files are in total disarray

Preview is my fren

My lord he does love himself doesn’t he. Insomnia will not be a problem at Harvard Law now

The terrorists are the guys who buy their small arms from Russia, Eastern Europe and China. The Good Guys buy their weapons from the USA. Except in cases like Afghanistan in the 1980’s when the US armed the nascent Al Qaida with Stinger missiles and such to use against the Soviets. And in Iraq when Rumsfeld sold Saddam mustard gas and such.

We need to learn from the FISA battle but get to the point of actually winning the battle.

Yep, the term terrorist should be relegated to the trash pile. Let’s send homeland and paradigm with it for company.

Unfortunately, we’ve got to keep war, so let’s define it.

Looks like you and the mod are headin’ for a pissin’ contest.

Sorry, but this went straight over my head. What did I do? Really don’t want to be in a pissin’ contest with anybody.

You’re kidding?

If one is registered on the NYT site you can send an email to Krugman through the paper. If not, one can register on their home page, go to any of Krugman’s articles, click on the bio link and the email link appears at the bottom of the bio. Wouldn’t it be nice if Krugman did a weekly piece at the Lake. Hint, hint Jane.

The factors in our favor on the stim package and for us to grow a strong voice to back it:

1) A President backing the plan,

2) The potential of Congressional support is strong,

3) The economic need is great.

4) Krugman in our court

I think this is one we can win.

Isn’t he a Wanker? He’d better mind his p’s and q’s with Samantha. She’s got more testosterone than he does.

I loved the book salon with him.

Definition: Terrorist: a bomb owner who lacks an airplane.

You didn’t do anything. Sadlyyes made a couple comments the mod didn’t like and deleted the last one, which is the one I was responding to. It was originally #27 but that became yours when hers got deleted. Clear as mud, no? *g*

here is another master of the universe(meltdown) trying to escape civil actions

Lehman CEO sold mansion for $10
Fuld sold $13 million seaside mansion to wife for ten bucks.

Yep, the term terrorist should be relegated to the trash pile. Let’s send homeland and paradigm with it for company.

The way the economy’s going, I’ll be lucky to have a paradigms.

Nope. I ordered Plunder and Blunder last evening and I saw the new Depression Economics book so I went to order it and the blurb says ships in 1 to 3 weeks. Published in December so what’s up with that? They haven’t gotten their copies yet is all I can figure. I’ll just wait until they have it in stock.

guess i cant pst simple skulldugery huh

We will win if the stimulous works. The really really big battle is going to be healthcare. See my link @ 8

RGR, clear now. Thanks, SD.

Well, he did hem and haw a bunch and can be a little snooty. That said I like his ideas.

CITI bank just took delivery on a $50 million dollar and they sure have dumped some bombs on the economy. They must be terrorists. *g*

Healthcare will be a big battle. But with every doc I’ve talked to..I think there is a strong doc base for support on healthcare reform.

My brother has fought to keep his solo practice out of the hands of the big medical industry and has been successful. He’s my hero and a grand example for Obama on what healthcare could be.

I have to assume Citi bought a new $50M private jet for the head terrorists.

Should read $50 million dollar airplane

Need more coffee

I think Obama and the Dems know that they are not going to convert the remaining House Republicans to act in a bipartisan manner. They all represent far right constituencies. But the Dems can pass the stimulus bill in the House with no problem.

The issue is the Senate, where the Dems need two Repub votes and Bluedog votes to pass over any philibuster. Obama’s bipartisan approach is widely supported by public and gives cover/impetus for the few moderate Republicans and Bluedogs to support the measure.

My 59 was for you. The reply dropped when I posted. BTW thanks for the link @ 8.

The AMA has changed its position on universal health care. They backed the insurance companies for the longest time. No more.

…Depression Economics book so I went to order it and the blurb says ships in 1 to 3 weeks. Published in December so what’s up with that? They haven’t gotten their copies yet is all I can figure. I’ll just wait until they have it in stock.

I ordered and promptly received a copy from them at Christmas as a present. Demand must be outstripping publisher’s projected sales.

*g*

Ah so. Thanks.

I’m pretty sure we will have Voinovich’s vote. I hope. I am going to keep on him to make sure. Voinovich quite hard on a bipartisan package for the auto industry against his Repug. I also think Lugar is a possibility…

The insurance industry owns a lot of doctors. See Frist

Sunstein is pretty dry, but watching that video makes me think that he is an inspired choice for “regulatory czar.” The point is that he has some big ideas to counter the laissez faire marketeers. That could be interesting.

Good Find. Insurance and Big Pharma shall ramp up the existing disinformation campaign. Example: Why should doctors work for free?

How many poor doctors do I know? Hmmm? None. I know one doctor in Canada. She’s not poor either. One from Russia just started work in Florida at over $225K a year.

The two Maine Senators, particularly Snowe, are likely help if it doesn’t become a stricltly partisan issue.

That too seems to be changing.

Terrorism is a recognized legal term and even contributing to “terrorist organizations” or “making terrorist threats” are federal crimes.

It would be interesting to see how terrorism per se is actually defined under law.

Off to swim in the great capitalist cesspool.

Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.

Namaste

Yes, I read about a study done by the AMA on a healthcare blog. I know many are trying to figure the “angle” on the AMA and the sudden change of heart to supporting single payer like Canada has…

After going through the immunization process for rabies and talking with many docs during the process, I think I found out why. Public healthcare issues due to pandemic realities.

The Rs are losing MDs and that should worry them. Among those I know, many were influential supporters.

Here’s where I did some reading on healthcare.

Let’s hope the throngs in the Mall last week stick in their minds should it become a partisan issue.

Per the Wikipedia:

At present, there is no internationally agreed definition of terrorism.[2][3] Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for an ideological goal (as opposed to a lone attack), and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants.

What you’ll find if you look through the literature is the word “illegal” in front of “violence against …” The point is that they want a way to argue that, say, our air raids of WWII were not “terrorism.”

Thanks, wigwam. I should have thought to look in Wikipedia.

What you’ll find if you look through the literature is the word “illegal” in front of “violence against …” The point is that they want a way to argue that, say, our air raids of WWII were not “terrorism.”

Right. And it seems to me, this is exactly the slippery slope one starts to descend when trying to tie it down. I guess “legal violence” is violence when we do it and “illegal violence” is violence when they do it.

DIGG is open.

81 comments and nobody opened the DIGG????