Comments on: And how’d that work out for you? http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:41:46 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: ratcityreprobate http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807913 ratcityreprobate Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:07:50 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807913 <p>Apparently the Washington Post is picking up Kristol for a monthly column.</p> Apparently the Washington Post is picking up Kristol for a monthly column.

]]> By: Petrocelli http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807746 Petrocelli Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:39:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807746 <p>I think Kristol was canned by the Grey Lady because of Obama’s new rules … <em>reducing harmful emissions …<br /></em></p> <p>If on Wednesday, our Libruls can toss Harper out on his fat NeoCon Backside, I’ll call it a great week !</p> I think Kristol was canned by the Grey Lady because of Obama’s new rules … reducing harmful emissions …

If on Wednesday, our Libruls can toss Harper out on his fat NeoCon Backside, I’ll call it a great week !

]]> By: Brian77 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807742 Brian77 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:35:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807742 <p>Bill Kristol is a right-winger. I would not count on him - or 100 Kristol clones - to bring balance to a paper. The same goes, of course, for Krugman & Dowd on the left side of the spectrum.</p> <p>But a paper that hires both right-wingers and lefties - in sufficient proportions such that either side is not window-dressing - thus compelling both sides to talk to each other about what to report & how to report it, will be more balanced than the NY Times is today. (I should really use as examples reporters and not columnists, but you get my point.)</p> <p>It’s the swarm, the collective, the larger entity, that would possess the trait of greater balance & objectivity.</p> <p>(And for greater factual accuracy, wouldn’t it be better to hire reporters from different walks of life, irrespective of ideological leanings? The NY Times would make less mistakes in business & military matters if it hired veterans and former business people, rather than a cookie-cutter crew of J-School grads who have little experience in much of anything.)</p> Bill Kristol is a right-winger. I would not count on him – or 100 Kristol clones – to bring balance to a paper. The same goes, of course, for Krugman & Dowd on the left side of the spectrum.

But a paper that hires both right-wingers and lefties – in sufficient proportions such that either side is not window-dressing – thus compelling both sides to talk to each other about what to report & how to report it, will be more balanced than the NY Times is today. (I should really use as examples reporters and not columnists, but you get my point.)

It’s the swarm, the collective, the larger entity, that would possess the trait of greater balance & objectivity.

(And for greater factual accuracy, wouldn’t it be better to hire reporters from different walks of life, irrespective of ideological leanings? The NY Times would make less mistakes in business & military matters if it hired veterans and former business people, rather than a cookie-cutter crew of J-School grads who have little experience in much of anything.)

]]> By: Phoenix Woman http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807730 Phoenix Woman Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:22:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807730 <p>100 Kristol clones = “greater commitment to objectivity and balance”?</p> <p>Funny how the right-wingers always harp on “balance”. They never ever say “I wish there was a greater commitment to telling the truth”. What does that say about how right-wingers view the truth?</p> 100 Kristol clones = “greater commitment to objectivity and balance”?

Funny how the right-wingers always harp on “balance”. They never ever say “I wish there was a greater commitment to telling the truth”. What does that say about how right-wingers view the truth?

]]> By: TheOtherMikey http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807728 TheOtherMikey Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:21:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807728 <p>Now, if sometime this week I read, “This is Maureen Dowd’s last column” . . .</p> Now, if sometime this week I read, “This is Maureen Dowd’s last column” . . .

]]> By: Brian77 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807705 Brian77 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:06:53 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807705 <p>The New York Times will go bankrupt (but still operating, under a chapter 11 reorganization) and/or be bought out by another entity within, at most, 18 months. If the latter happens, the new owner will either downsize the NY Times significantly, and tailor the paper exclusively to a rather small lefty niche market (the MSNBC model), or it will attempt to maintain the paper’s present size, and hire at least 100 more Bill Kristol clones, in both news and editorial positions.</p> <p>Either way, ideological puritans of the Left-o-sphere - as represented by the comments above - lose. They either get a niche player with little influence, or a transformed NY Times, with a greater commitment to objectivity and balance. If the later happens, you can send your ”thank you” notes to a guy named…Rupert!</p> The New York Times will go bankrupt (but still operating, under a chapter 11 reorganization) and/or be bought out by another entity within, at most, 18 months. If the latter happens, the new owner will either downsize the NY Times significantly, and tailor the paper exclusively to a rather small lefty niche market (the MSNBC model), or it will attempt to maintain the paper’s present size, and hire at least 100 more Bill Kristol clones, in both news and editorial positions.

Either way, ideological puritans of the Left-o-sphere – as represented by the comments above – lose. They either get a niche player with little influence, or a transformed NY Times, with a greater commitment to objectivity and balance. If the later happens, you can send your ”thank you” notes to a guy named…Rupert!

]]> By: KayInMaine http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807668 KayInMaine Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:37:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807668 <p>I gulped my Bloody Mary this morning so I wouldn’t feel the cold. LOL We’re minus 9 degrees right now, whereas, Bangor, Maine is at minus 22. Brrrrrrrr. No wind.</p> I gulped my Bloody Mary this morning so I wouldn’t feel the cold. LOL We’re minus 9 degrees right now, whereas, Bangor, Maine is at minus 22. Brrrrrrrr. No wind.

]]> By: bobh http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807648 bobh Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:13:20 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807648 <p>I can proudly say that as a NYT home delivery subscriber, I never read one of the Kristol columns.</p> <p>I hope the NYT’s financial condition does not continue to worsen, because we may read someday that Rupert Murdoch has taken control of it, with Bill Kristol given Keller’s job.</p> I can proudly say that as a NYT home delivery subscriber, I never read one of the Kristol columns.

I hope the NYT’s financial condition does not continue to worsen, because we may read someday that Rupert Murdoch has taken control of it, with Bill Kristol given Keller’s job.

]]> By: Marion in Savannah http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807637 Marion in Savannah Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:00:43 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807637 <p>And again for some reason Early Morning Swim is blocked by the office cybernannies as “porn.” I swear they’re neocons…</p> And again for some reason Early Morning Swim is blocked by the office cybernannies as “porn.” I swear they’re neocons…

]]> By: Marion in Savannah http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807636 Marion in Savannah Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:59:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/26/and-howd-that-work-out-for-you/#comment-1807636 <blockquote><p>But, do you see that we’re playing fair and they’re playing dirty?</p></blockquote> <p>Solai, nothing has changed. That’s their modus operandi, and it failed them in the last 2 elections. We’ve just got to keep the pressure on. (And keep our powder dry…)</p>

But, do you see that we’re playing fair and they’re playing dirty?

Solai, nothing has changed. That’s their modus operandi, and it failed them in the last 2 elections. We’ve just got to keep the pressure on. (And keep our powder dry…)

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