Word is that House Democrats want bankruptcy reform in the Stimulus bill and that Obama and Senate Democrats don’t, because they’re scared of a Republican filibuster.
Having a stimulus bill without bankruptcy reform is like organizing a bucket brigade on a sinking ship without sending a crew down to patch the hull. The current bankruptcy bill does not allow judges to change the terms of mortgages on primary residences (only on holiday homes and investment homes, because helping rich people keep homes they don’t need is important). That might be liveable, except for two things. Credit cards are currently prioritized over housing payments, meaning that people are being forced out of their home to pay MBNA its pound of flesh; and ownership of mortgages is so confused that banks can’t rewrite mortgages themselves. Each mortgage was usually sold to so many different people that even tracking down all the owners, let alone getting them all to agree to changes is effectively impossible. Banks can’t make the changes because they only service the mortgages, they don’t own them, and if they make changes without owner approval, they can be sued.
Republicans respond, in essence, so what? They borrowed the money, they should pay it back. Leaving aside the fact that this applies a standard to ordinary Americans which was not applied to banks and brokerages, which got plenty of help for their bad loans, this is cut off your nose to spite your face thinking.
Without the ability to rewrite mortgages what happens isn’t "people pay their debts", it’s "people go bankrupt anyway, and lose their houses which then go on the market. Once on the market they depress house prices even further." Since falling home prices are at the heart of the financial crisis, this makes banks even more sick requiring more money. It puts even more homeowners "underwater", meaning they owe more on the houses than they’re worth. It puts more pressure on States as people without homes need help. And so on.
Allowing judges to rewrite the terms of mortgages is in the interest of most owners of mortgages and most homeowners. It is in the interests of muncipalities and states, who do not want to see entire neighbourhoods depopulated. It is in the interest of America. Yes, some people who bought parts of mortgages on the secondary market may lose money, but in most cases they would have lost the money anyway.
And let’s be frank, many of these mortgages were essentially sold based on fraud. They were sold fraudulently to the home owners, using financial projections which were unrealistic, and they were sold fraudulently to the buyers of the securities they were bundled into, because due diligence wasn’t done and promised returns were based on the idea that the largest housing bubble in post-war history would continue forever.
Hoyer claims that the bankruptcy reform has enough support to pass on its own. At the same time the claim is made that if it’s in the stimulus bill Republicans may filibuster. These statements appear somewhat contradictory to me. Stop putting it off. It is more important, in many ways, than anything else in the stimulus bill. Put it in, and get it through, and if it takes a bit of extra time, so be it.
Without it, all the stimulus in the world is nothing but bailing water out of a sinking ship without bothering to patch the hull.
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Credit cards are currently prioritized over housing payments.
Yes, you read that correctly.! Emphasis mine.
*sigh* You always make sense, Ian, yet, you’re too often ignored by the FCM….!
There are several pieces of the mortgage mess that have gotten separated:
(a) the lien-holders (who has a piece of the action)
(b) the loan-servicers (who collects the money)
(c) the title-holder (who owes the money)
and probably several more pieces that don’t come to my mind right away (I’m not sure where credit default swaps and such fit in).
These seem to have become more separated than usual, with a design to separate risk from profit. I think this should be made illegal, if it isn’t already.
Bob in HI
Thanks, Ian. This reform is desperately needed.
If Obama and the Dems are going to cough up hundreds of billions in tax breaks, coddling the GOP, they should be more than able to include this.
But it was folks like Biden who took away bankruptcy protections to begin with.
Cramdown.
It certainly sounds like something Republicans could, um, get behind.
Thanks, Ian – I hope it’s true that there are enough votes to pass it over a filibuster. (I’d call write my rep but it’s hopeless – are you familiar w/ Lamar Smith, Rethuglican of Texas?).
Then, when it passes both houses, that will give those worried about a filibuster now courage to confront the idiot R’s again. And again. etc., etc.
Btw, re mortgage-backed securities, I first learned about them 25 years while working on a project for a mortgage bank that was trying to fix all the mistakes that had been made in bundling and sell their mortgages. This was toward the end of the S&L bustt.
I thought the idea, for all its surface appeal, was a really bad one, especially for the borrowers. (The mortgage bank, btw, was out of business in less than a year from the summer of that project.)
Obama has to stop being afraid of the GOP. The banks got plenty of money from the government now lets help home owners.
If the GOP is worried that the banks might fail if they don’t get that cash well uh people without money were not going to pay anyway no matter what you do.
More banks however will fail as more homes going under drives down housing prices.
I think the banks are hoping the economy will turn around so quick they won’t have to write down all their bad home loans.
They will all go with bucket drill. The nationalization of the banks is next. Anyone foolish enough to pay their mortgages now is losing the last of their money. If you don’t demand they fix this by not paying it, they won’t. Nero watched Rome burn, eh? That is what they will do because they have no solution that is not going to be mandated by an angry populace. If we can’t stop the banks taking what is left, we won’t keep anything.
They have given the equivalent value of our treasury away to a few hundred people to dole out to friends. They have done nothing to ease credit or stop the carnage. It is a vast joke that you shouldn’t be a part of. They will eventually admit they need another 8 Trillion to fix this. Folks, let’s wake up. It is an act of desperation on their part as they deny the company is broke.
Wonder what the new name for the bank will be? Wonder if you can paper your walls with dollar bills and still enjoy life? We should try not to be complacent about the end of our financial system and way of life.
Bankruptcy reform is mandatory, as is prosecuting all the crooks — but that’s just me.
If Boehner’s going to mock the new President by scolding him for putting free condoms in the stimulus bill, I think the GOPs should properly be ignored. What’s the point of having over-80 approval ratings if you aren’t going to use them to do the right thing?
C’mon, Barack — do the right thing. You know you want to.
Or is this one of those “make me do it” deals? And if so, exactly how would you like us to “make you do it?” Torchlight parades? Pitchforks? Emails? Phonecalls?
Say the word, dude, we’re in.
And by the way, I’m counting the days on the Big Gay Bill, too: DADT, DOMA, iENDA, Hate Crimes, Immigration Partner Recognition. None of that costs any money, sir.
I’m certainly all too familiar! Just moved and now I have Lloyd Doggett-Blessed relief! Hell, we couldn’t even get anyone to run against the little shit (Lamar) this last time. He has a super safe Delay engineered District now.
I agree the banks will be Nationalized or despite everything the GOP is doing several large banks will go under.
I think the next question is will our currency go under even more next.
We need to borrow to create investments with rates of return high enough to pay back what we borrow.
We need to cut spending end the war, pull troops back from foreign military bases and put the troops to work like the Romans did building bridges.
What would it take for people to get pissed off? Lordy!
i didn’t watch the hearing, but yesterday the house judicary had a hearing scheduled on:
i put the thomas links in the above so that anyone who’s interested can read the language of the two bills.
Now Tweets has Bilbray on my television. Brain-dead.
My dear fuckhead congressman
You willing to put us up? I’ve grown fond of the roof I have over my head.
Bilbray looks like a dild salesman in a baptist neighborhood.
Bilbray puts his product in brown paper bags and pretends he’s selling bananas.
i would like to point out that the claims about fearing a filibuster are imo total bullshit.
the senate of the 111th congress could rewrite their rules with a simple majority and change the number required for cloture to something other than 60. or, my preference, to bring back some aspects of the old filibuster which required non-stop talking (that way there is a price to be paid by the minority who wants to filibuster).
this wouldn’t require a nuclear option or anything so drastic. the senate has rewritten it’s rules many times, i don’t see why they couldn’t again.
one of the problems with the issues in the economy is the fact that the lenders thought they could lend to anyone and eventually get paid
they paid far more due diligence when they had to protect their investment, once they didn’t have to protect their investment due diligence went out the door
Tweet wants to see CHEEENEY prosecuted for torture…All Right!
let’s hope others get on board
I wonder why tweet feels that secure in his job though to say things like this
Tweets says whatever he thinks will improve his ratings.
I’ll tell you why Senate Dems don’t want bankruptcy reform: because they are pretty much owned and operated by the large banking corporations. The Millionaires’ Club is practically a group of sock puppets, with lobbyists placed with their hands up the Senates’ posteriors.
If the economy is sinking as fast as they say and if we need a very fast powerful counter, then bankruptcy proceedings isn’t the big solution. It might be helpful for now and for down the road, but it isn’t the solution.
If they need something faster then they need to get the mortgages & mortgage backed securities off the bank books QUICK! Eminent domain or something of that kind seems more likely.
One day, I suppose that we will figure out the mystery of why when seemingly good Democrats get elected to the US Senate, they all have a backbonectomy and a stonesectomy. The filibuster is not a constitutional requirement. Simply pass a rule, over the objections of whoever, that filibusters are history. Maybe then the Surgeon General can perform a backbone transplant and a balls-install and things for those of us without a gazillion $$ can be passed into law.
You got that right. Biden, and my senator, Stabenaw, and a few other Dems in the senate. I’ve written Stabenaw many times since her vote for the bankruptcy reform bill of 2005, admonishing her for that vote.