When word leaked out that Caroline Kennedy had called David Paterson and let him know she’d like a Senate seat, please, the optics of the whole thing were just so wrong that it was hard to imagine she knew what she was getting into, or what the consequences of a high-profile belly flop would be:
We have absolutely no idea if she’s qualified, or whether she can take the heat of being a Kennedy in public life. She’s certainly shown no appetite for it in the past. She’ll have a target on her back and if she can’t take it, if she crumbles, she will become a rallying point that the right will easily organize around. The woman has never run for office in her life. We have no idea how she’d fare on the campaign trail, or how well she could stand up to the electoral process.
But even *I* in my most cynical moment could not have predicted the utter and complete mission fail of Kennedy’s public relations campaign over the next few weeks. She appeared to believe that if she just hired the right people and whispered in the right ears, everything else would follow. No doubt people who were drooling as she opened her formidable checkbook reinforced that sad delusion (and yes, I do mean you, Josh Isay).
But her roll out was positively masterful next to the abject meltdown of her waning moments:
Caroline Kennedy has reportedly withdrawn her name from consideration for the US Senate seat Hillary Clinton vacated today.
[It] might be due to concern over the deteriorating health of her uncle, Sen. Ted Kennedy, who suffered a seizure yesterday during a lunch to celebrate President Obama’s inauguration.
But wait! Hold the presses! People who Ought To Know say it’s not true:
UPDATE: DN Capitol Bureau Chief Ken Lovett reports a Kennedy family source said Kerry Kennedy, Caroline Kennedy’s cousin, spoke with both Paterson and Caroline Kennedy’s political consultant Josh Isay and neither were aware she is pulling out.
Or maybe it is….
UPDATE2: According to multiple sources, the candidate is AWOL at the moment, and everyone close to her is blindsided by this bombshell. It appears someone might have jumped the gun early, and this news might not be, well, news.
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Assuming this is true, it does not look good for the people who were running Kennedy’s non-campaign for Clinton’s seat at Isay’s firm, KnickerbockerSKD, nor for some of her big boosters like Mayor Bloomberg, whose deputy, Kevin Sheekey, was also working the back channels on Kennedy’s behalf.
Well, she was probably consumed with grief over Teddy’s health crisis at the inauguration. Can you really blame her?
Short answer? "Yes":
Sources close to Senator Edward M. Kennedy tell TIME that his circle — including his immediate family — is furious that his brain cancer is being cited by some in her camp as the reason for her decision to withdraw her name from consideration for the Senate seat being vacated by Hillary Clinton in New York.
Before the fawning posts start climbing to the top of the Kos diary section by people prostrating themselves before the genius and grace of ATTORNEY KENNEDY who could not, um, you know, possibly have had anything to do with such sordidness because she lives in a world of sunshine, lollypops and rainbows that is known as CAMELOT and is obviously just the victim of unscrupulous VERMIN like Michael Bloomberg and Josh Isay, who you know "handled" Joe Lieberman, which it was not okay to mention because that was GUILT BY ASSOCIATION but that was before and this is now and so now it’s okay because it was an honest MISTAKE and how was she to know what reprobate SCALIWAGS were doing on her behalf because she is not a political HACK she’s a PRINCESS and a constitutional scholar who has written books about the CONSTITUTION, okay they were kid’s books but kiss my ass SHE KNOWS MORE ABOUT IT THAN YOU DO, they might want to read all the way to the end:
Multiple reports suggested that those around her — and possibly Caroline Kennedy herself — are citing her uncle’s condition as a reason, despite the fact that his illness and prognosis has been known for months. The New York Times, for instance, wrote in its Thursday morning edition: "The person who spoke with Ms. Kennedy said she cited concerns about the health of her uncle, Senator Edward M. Kennedy, who suffers from brain cancer and was hospitalized after a seizure Tuesday, as the reason for her abrupt withdrawal."
I’m sure Ruth Marcus is also wracked with inconsolable grief that the woman who was capable of such dexterous PR maneuvering never got to try her hand at governance.
Me, I’ll live.
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with the changing stories it sure looked like a mess. I always thought she was inappropriate pick. HRC did it the hard way working the people and winning the election but to be dropped into a Senate seat without any experience is just stupid.
I for one am very happy that David Gregory and Andrea Mitchell got punk’d on this.
I’ll be extremely happy if a woman whose initials aren’t Kristen Gillibrand is appointed as well.
Or Rosie’s big gay brother. That would be good too.
Eagerly awaiting Ruth Marcus’s unhappiness, expressed in another Pulitzer-worthy column.
Such bitter grapes about another progressive ill serve the progressive intentions of this website.
I’m actually now saddened by the whole affair. I’m sure Ted Kennedy could ahve better things to think about than having to deal with a niece who is playing political peek-a-boo. Maybe she should just come out and say her “personal issues” are because she doesn’t yet feel prepared, or have her “affairs in order” (maybe that’s not good phrasing), or something.
The use of her Uncle’s illness seems opportunistic, though perhaps she’s just gunshy of how “private events” get magnified with political figures. I suspect that she really just isn’t ready to give up all her privacy… and that others are pushing her into this.
Yeah, Marcus and MoDo both wanted to return to the days of “Princess rides a Pony” so they could re-capture their youth.
It ain’t happening.
I think that folks are tired of watching the elite take advantage of their status. Caroline Kennedy’s situation tugs on all of our heart strings but that doesn’t make her qualified to be a senator. I like her. I don’t want her in the senate.
Absolutely right. We will forth with suspend all snark and inappropriate humor.
Dugg right here!
Maybe it wasn’t Uncle Ted’s illness.
Maybe her affair with Pinch is about to break into the public eye.
Their wiretaps apparently malfunctioned. Andrea and David each only hearing the wrong parts of a conversation.
Do tell.
Affair with Pinch? Ew! I’d have more respect for her if she’d had an affair with Punch. Not Abe, though.
jane, I hope you go over to read this excellant oxdown diary post by;
she was probably consumed with grief over Teddy’s health crisis at the inauguration. Can you really blame her?
Way to stay classy Jane. Maybe you could make fun of her dead brother in your next “WHY WE ALL NEED TO HATE CAROLINE” post.
I think I’d like her better if she just said something like: I always suspected that I wouldn’t like the public scrutiny involved in a political life — and now I know I was right. I look forward to supporting, from a private position, the causes I believe in.
Or, shorter version: My bad; I’m outtie.
I was at a presentation today where a guy who manages a lot of grassroots political and PR campaigns described a term he coined: “joy sponges.”
“Joy sponges,” he said, are the people who express concern about some fun, innovative campaign idea, concern that it will offend some people. He said most organizations end up effectively giving veto power over all ideas to those people. They are “joy sponges” because they suck all joy out of the room.
He had a colorful metaphor for how best to deal with those people, but suffice it to say, he argued that successful operations learn not to listen to them.
Maybe it was that this particular appointment is no particular prize?
The ‘winner’ (if that’s the right term) of the Governor Patterson Lottery gets to go to Washington, and face a special election in 2010. Assuming s/he wins the special election, the seat’s Senate class faces re-election in 2012. The incumbent might as well be in the House of Representatives.
Pardon me while I posit a more cold-blooded reason for Caroline withdrawing. Ted Kennedy at some point in the future, probably fairly near, has to resign his seat. Who’s there to take the post and sentimentally keep it in the family? Why, Caroline, of course!
I forgot about that bonus.
Hmmm, methinks you may be on to something there….
I for one am very happy that David Gregory and Andrea Mitchell got punk’d on this.
ain’t the truth
a pox on anonymous sources
Actually, given that Caroline resides in NYC and Sen. Ted is representing MA, if there were to be a Kennedy appointed to that seat, it would most likely by Joe, former Congressman for the 8th CD of MA (in fact he held his late uncle’s former seat – held by Tip O’Neill for a few decades in between them of course).
But I would not hold my breath on Joe being appointed to the seat either.
We used to call them “psychic vampires”
Leave Caroline Kennedy alone!!!
I have heard (been a while) that he wanted his wife to succeed him
Or it could just be that she’s perfected her Bernie Kerick impression.
I read it’s because she did not want to fill out Paterson’s financial disclosure form (what did she think she was going to do if she got the appointment)
Kennedy, an author, lawyer and fundraiser for New York City schools, has long guarded her privacy, and the questionnaires were expected to include some closely guarded Kennedy financial data. Paterson had said he thought the candidates’ responses would be confidential because it was his personal request that they fill them out.
But the state’s open-government expert and good-government groups told the AP that once the forms were written and submitted to the governor at least some of the responses would be subject to public review under the state Freedom of Information Law.
Looks like Caroline Kennedy did not want to fill out the questionnaire.
David Gregory showed himself particularly useful to some part of the elite chattering class last night when he essentially broke into the Rachel Maddow Show to report, via telephone, that the story that Caroline was withdrawing (or had withdrawn) was untrue and likely based on a misunderstanding between her “camp” and the governor’s office.
A useful conduit indeed, and wholly unconcerned about the truth of the matter.
A worthy successor to Pumpkinhead.
Right here in New York, we have an unelected governor, an unelected comptroller and an unelected attorney general, our three top officials are all unelected office holders. JH’s handwringing over the fact that CK had not previously run for office disqualified CK at the outset. So, now do we have to bear the unelected Mario Cuomo, Jr., aka Andy, as our next US Senator replacing the Clintons. Hope not
This is ultimately why I feel CK is disqualified. Her branch of the Kennedy family is steadfast in guarding their privacy, which runs directly counter to serving publicly. You have to be willing to drop your pants in public (and keep them up in private ha another craig/vitter joke). She doesn’t have it in her.
Uh, Cuomo was elected NYS Attorney General in ‘06. On the same ticket where David Paterson was elected Lt Governor, presumably by the voters of the state of NY as a person qualified to be Governor if something were to happen to Elliot Spitzer.
Hevesi, though was an idiot.
I never thought that Caroline wanted the job in the first place. Seems to me that people who wanted to be the power behind Senator told her it was her duty, blah, blah, blah and she said okay. I don’t think she had any idea what it involved and realized that she was out of her league. Finally.
if caroline wants public service she will have it, all she has to do is particicpate, take a post in public office and then run
(Per MSNBC), NYT reporting Caroline had a nanny problem. (Actually a housekeeper.) Ruth Marcus regretting this has been “botched, from start to finish.”
Will David Gregory and Andrea Mitchell burn their lying sources in public?
NYT link here.
Watching Norah O’Donnell interview Ruth Marcus about Caroline. Now that’s special.
Jane you’ve led a lot of important fights to improve our country in recent years, but the vitriol you display over Ms. Kennedy is uncalled for and unproductive. Something we should have learned from Obama is that one can support a candidate without terror tactics being used against an opponent. Please don’t stoop to the Palin level.
Voting would be a good start… Something she apparently “forgets” to do.
Well that’s another thing that’s worried me. Caroline Kennedy didn’t seem to want to reveal financial information. I find it hard to imagine that Republicans wouldn’t find that an ideal way to attack democrats for that. It’s worrisome that someone who wants to be a senator doesn’t want to be transparent. And I don’t have a clue what CK thinks about the war, healthcare, education etc. I mean yes she’s a Kennedy, and supported Obama, but I feel the public shouldn’t make assumptions based on that. In other words no transparency after 8 years of the Chimpie administration is a little hard for me to take from a Democrat.
Jane has handled this Kennedy candidacy absolutely brilliantly from the get-go.
You’re kidding me. She doesn’t vote?
we have tried our best to eliminate the pay to play pattern of politics, cariline did not work for the position she wanted, she simply wanted to waltz in and take it
this is exactly what we are fighting againts, the fact that caroline was a kennedy made her a bigger danger of getting what she wanted simply becuase she wanted it
I trust her brother who told us she would have been an incredible politician however we need to make it clear, if you want to be in public service then do the leg work, we don’t want kings, queens, princes or fools in office
aha, voting would be a nice first step then, I didn’t know that savannah, thanx for pointing it out
Nope, never said it disqualified her. Not even once.
What I said was since she hadn’t been through an election before there was no way to know how she’d hold up under public pressure, and as someone who has heretofore chosen to lead a remarkably private life there was reason to worry that she wouldn’t do very well. Those worries turned out to be well founded. There was also something noxious about someone who hadn’t ever wanted to run for public office before thinking that they could simply make a phone call and start at the top.
There are plenty of people who have not held office who nonetheless have political backgrounds who might be good for the job, she just wasn’t one of them.
There are no doubt quite a few who are now embarrassed that they expressed such confidence in her abilities and are looking for a straw man escape hatch like this, though. I expect much handwringing over things like “haven’t we got more important things to talk about” and “much ado about nothing” (and the ever popular sexist “calm down”) well before they acknowledge that they were just terribly, publicly and spectacularly wrong to support her in the first place.
While unelected, aren’t some of these people in their positions due to the Constitutionally madated transfer of power when there are vacancies? And were they (at least some of them) elected to Statewide Office?
I suppose that if one wants elections to fill vacated posts the means of changing that is through the State Constitution.
Teddy, you mistakenly used the word conduit instead of idiot.
-G
She neither votes regularly nor contributes to local candidates.
Zackly, mui. ditto.
Linky re her not voting.
Jane called it. Kos had it wrong. C’est la vie. Both are teh awesome.
I have never understood all the Caroline Kennedy bashing, particularly from HRC supporters.
I’m clear that Secy. Clinton did have to run for her seat, but other than that there’s not much difference. I’m sure she leapfrogged lots of other more qualified local Democratic politicians to get the chance to run for the Senate when she did.
Not only that, this same ‘lack of experience’ argument was made then as well.
It didn’t bother me then, it wouldn’t have bothered me now.
She would have fought for most of the things people here wanted from government and wouldn’t have had any problem keeping the seat in 2010.
Plus, her obvious closeness with President Obama (boy, was it great to use that for the first time!) would have been helpful to New York, not that it matters to me.
That’s a disappointment, not a mistake.
Yeah, without a BFF in the Senate, New York will be invisible to Obama. I imagine he’ll try to get them to secede from the union.
Kos had it right, actually. He himself was battling his own commenters, and I give him a lot of credit for it. It was the right thing to do.
Not living in NY state, I don’t care. But I do wonder when I find us having the exact same fun as Limbaugh, et. al..
The problem with being BFF with Obama, is that Obama is one of those politicians who everybody seems to be BFF with. So I wonder out of a gazillion BFF, how important CK would really be.
No kidding. That must have taken guts.
Thanks for covering this so thoroughly and logically, Jane. It’s the perfect 2×4 with which to smack anyone who asserts that “liberals won’t/don’t criticize their own.”
FunnyDiva
HRC could take the heat before she got the job. Caroline could not take the heat. Caroline had the podium and she had nothing persuasive or compelling to say on her own behalf. Those who know her, say that CK does not like to rub elbows with the hoi polloi. Rather, she loathes having to pretend to like it. Which is ok. But not for a Senator.
Even a blind pig sometimes finds an acorn. Other than “CK shouldn’t be appointed to the US Senate” I doubt that Rush says anything on this topic that’s even remotely similar to Jane’s rationale.
Well, OK, yeah, by definition it would be damn near impossible for someone as irrational as Rush to have any sort of rationale about anything…
FunnyDiva
I’m with jukesgrrl:
Not that my opinion matters, but I’ve been surprised (and baffled) at the nastiness of the comments about Caroline Kennedy. I’m no supporter, but she doesn’t deserve what’s been leveled at her in this post and previous ones. It isn’t snark or humor, it’s just plain nasty. I’m going elsewhere until I cool off.
Somewhat OT. Michael Bennet sworn in as new senator from CO
OK, maybe none of them will take the opportunity to make the most out of another circle jerk inolving all Democrats.
Well, apparently there is a lot more going on than this “People Magazine” sort of stuff (much as I enjoy it).
Anyone gonna put up a post about Obama’s Termination of Bush’s Executive Order on Presidential and VP Records?
Looks like Obama has just opened Door #1 to potential legal action against the former Administration.
We talk about more and better Democrats. What that means, for me, is people that are able to articulate their views, that those views are progressive, that they are willing to meet with and talk to their constituents, and that they will vote progressive.
Caroline Kennedy had the ability to do the first three of these but refused to do so. The last she will not have the chance to do. This wasn’t even an election but going in with fantastic advantages in name and family she managed to blow her roll out, continued to make dumb mistake after dumb mistake, and then completely blew her withdrawal. What Kennedy had to do was not that hard to do or inapparent to see but she didn’t do it. The lameness of it all was the real surprise.
bmaz let the commenters do the dissection on that yesterday.
I don’t disagree with the idea, but it’s over. I don’t know when will next serve to progressive’s benefit by discouraging the candidacy of the daughter of an iconic Democratic president. It’s not a big deal to me, but for the same reaons I wanted the Illinois senator issue to be done with, I’d like to see this done with.
Your observation is exactly correct. Well put. Not offensive or cruel in any way. It’s the truth.
Agree. Wondered if I miss some personal backstory.
It was actually Teddy Kennedy’s “immediate family” who are “furious” at Caroline, so you can email him here and tell him they’re being “plain nasty.”
OTOH, my post mocks the people who supported her. Anybody’s feeling really stupid for having suggested she’d be a great Senator and doesn’t want to cop to the fact that they were just plain wrong should feel free to take it personally.
Or just continue to harumph in the comments, up to them.
Yeah, Jane can’t possibly mean what she says about Caroline’s unfitness.
What are you hiding from us, Jane?
Basically, you are right but if New York ends up with Andy Cuomo, same difference.
But, but Harry Reid liked her/s
Thanks Jane.
I thought Andy Cuomo was appointed. It just did not register with me that he could be elected to any office and I blocked it out. Mea Culpa.
Tula is a couple of flights upstairs “What Book Do You Want Obama to Read?”
You are so right. If she wants to manipulate Teddy’s brain cancer and humiliate him publicly and ruin his final wish to pass healthcare on his deathbed just to excuse her own flameout as his immediate family tells Time Magazine, I can’t imagine that any criticism of her could spring from anything other than an unseemly history of personal vendetta.
CAMELOT, DAMMIT!!
I’d been wondering about that as well.
Gimme a minute and I can come up with some material on her brother and her dead dad and uncle.
The latter two lost their heads over politics and the flew too close to the sun.
There.
Oh, and [Edited by Mod]
I’m out.
Man, lots of conclusions drawn based on competing stories from anonymous “aides.”
I don’t see Teddy Kennedy being able to push healthcare. He’s at a point where giving a speech or attending a luncheon can overtax him. He is already on the edge of incapacity. I wish him well but he is sinking fast.
Wasn’t me:
Things are in a downward spiral. It sounds that there is a lot of denial among Teddy Kennedy supporters as well.
True.
I very much care what she thinks. And at the same time I wish Caroline Kennedy was a Senator. Go figure…
Oh, not an anonymous “aide,” but “one close associate” this time. And from Karen Tumulty no less. I just don’t trust this kind of “reporting.” This all reeks of battling spinmeisters.
Why such cruelty and mean-spiritedness toward Ms. Kennedy? What’s up with that? She would probably have done a good job. She has to start somewhere if she wants to enter politics.And if it’s lack of experience, how come nobody (besides Randi Rhodes) is being snarky toward Al Franken (whom I support). He has zero political experience
I, too, don’t understand the animosity towards Ms. Kennedy. No harm, no foul. Wassup? I would say there seems to be more at work here than intelligent criticism
Well, the biggest difference is Franken actually put himself out in front of the voters and allowed them to say he was qualified.
CK just seems to have wanted the glory without going through the painful process of meeting the voters.
It was reported in the New York Post today (this one paragraph has now been scrubbed) that Caroline Kennedy has the same kind of issue going on as Geitner did, meaning, she didn’t pay her taxes on her nanny. But! It gets better….the NYP also reported that Kennedy and her husband are on the outs and that she’s been ‘linked’ to Arthur Sulzburger of the New York Times.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/…..asons.html
True? I have no idea.
Come on, guys. Let it rest. I think she is a decent person and would have done a decent job as senator.
Why do you have to be so mean?
I don’t want to let it rest, and it’s not about being mean. I was dumbfounded by the anger I encountered by saying that CK was not a good choice and that the celebrity worship and nepotism sickened me. Her political debut after never having been involved any political issues or struggles should not have been as senator of NY. I want to figure out what that was about. I imagined I would find people agreeing with me. Isn’t the blogosphere about empowered the proles? But not so much, especially at dailykos. WTF? Why was this ever a good idea? Since when do we want a crony of Bloomberg’s as senator, even if the last last name is Kennedy? Unless her PR firm was doing astroturfing, where the hell did her support come from? It’s conspicuously silent now, but I’d really like to know how anyone ever thought that she had anything to offer beyond a name-brand last name and deep pockets.
What a great monologue there at the end! Mamet couldn’t have done better.
I really get annoyed with the comparisons between CK and Franken. Al Franken has been on the public airwaves for quite a long time, talking at length, and in a very informed way, about his views on virtually every public policy issue. This is in addition to his books, which, while written with a great deal of entertaining snark, are very clear about where he stands. Contrast that with being told in 2008 that CK opposed the war in Iraq from the beginning. It’s very likely that she did, but we certainly wouldn’t know from the public record.
For myself, I don’t hate CK. But I have taken great offense at the overblown hype surrounding her candidacy. I really believe that if she hadn’t endorsed Obama there wouldn’t be anywhere near the fervent support she’s enjoying. To me it’s an extension of the tendency of many of Obama’s supporters to project their own views onto Obama. People are ascribing virtues to CK that are not evident from anything we have actually seen.
Completely agree.
Her only support now seems to be the never before seen commenters on this thread complaining about kicking CK while she is down.
I hope you happy.We would’ve had a progressive in Kennedy now we have a person who may say she is a Dem but is nothing more than a generic republican.Job well done Ms. Hamsher you got your wish.
in contrast to the frequently seen commenters on this thread who bleat their mindless approval of everything Jane Hamsher says no matter how unsupported by anything remotely resembling a fact.
What was that about “celebrity worship,” again?
Kinda what I was afraid of all along.
In search of some ‘perfect’ progressive candidate, we get a Blue Dog.
Interesting, too, that no one finds it the least bit odd how the same woman who thundered against “misogyny” and “sexism” every ten seconds during last year’s primary, has vented her vitriol against Ms. Kennedy with pictures of princess crowns and sneers about ponies and “getting her nails done.”
Know what I think? I think Caroline Kennedy never wanted to be a senator anywhere NEAR as bad as Jane Hamsher wants to be something other than y’all’s blogger queen.
Baseless speculation? Just following the leader……
Seriously.
Is there anything she could do to turn off the Kennedy worship? Is there no fuckup so great that it would prove to some that she’s completely unfit to hold office? I mean what about the past 24 hours do they not get? It’s mind boggling.
If people want to make excuses when it’s “our side,” don’t bitch to me when the Republicans do it. If you can’t stand on principle but give in to fawning sycophancy in the wake of the complete incompetence of a “progressive,” I don’t want to hear about it when it’s the GOP.
The very same people would be flipping their shit if this was Doro Bush.
Jane, I love you. Pay no mind to the trolls.
Woo!hoo! you couldn’t make this shit up if you tried:If it’s Gillibrand like most folks are saying that’s gonna get the Senate seat.Well for sure seems like the Repukes just gained a senate seat, seems like she ain’t much better than Lieberman.Ah!
Nice ramble.
Are you jealous of Caroline Kennedy or something? Is someone prettier than you? What the fuck is it to you? You know I’m sorry that you find this hard to believe but a lot of people wanted Caroline in the senate and she is a good person and she didn’t deserve this venom from you and the people on KOS. You better hope that Gillibrands blue dog voting record changes to the left. You have officially helped the MSM screw the people of New York. Congratulations!
No it’s not about Kennedy worship Jane, it’s about you being a catty shrew for no good reason. Have you ever given a reason for your nastiness? I don’t care if you don’t like Caroline Kennedy but there was no reason for you to repeatedly trash her and you know it. So stop playing dumb and acting like we are worshiping her. The truth of the matter is you have a problem with her and people are calling you out on it. Get out of your damn bubble!
And not only are you bent up on Caroline but in this article you also managed to pull off the amazing feat of insulting Ted Kennedy? What is wrong with you? I’m glad you find Kennedy’s illness so trivial. I find this lack of respect for good human beings absolutely disgusting. Perhaps you should replace Colmes sinces Hannity has no “liberal” counterpart anymore. There has been no worship of Caroline Kennedy once so ever. If there has been, it’s been impossible to here over the loud angry vitriol of you and Kos!!! Either admit that you were out of line, which you know you were, or don’t expect people to take you seriously.
She’s manipulating Teddy’s brain cancer? What is wrong with you? Are you aware that you and all of your backers sound as if you positively off of your rocker? This is a new low and I am embarrassed to be registered here. Stop spreading lies and grow the hell up, and if you won’t please do not call yourself a liberal, because I don’t want to be identified with you, and please don’t call yourself a woman, because you are reinforcing the negative stereotypes about us. I thought KOS was bad but then I come on here and realize that KOS was fucking tame! And as for your pathetic lies about how the Kennedy family told you such and such, you can blow it out your ass, because I don’t think any of them would talk to you. They don’t waste their time with petty people who act like Hedda Hopper! You didn’t have to want Caroline to get that seat or even like her, but the fact that you treated her like she was a dog over and over when she did nothing to warrant it reveals more about you than I ever knew. Thank you for showing your true colors.
Leecia Eve