As outside observers enter Gaza, we’re learning more about what has happened during the Israeli attack. What they are seeing is devastating – and is leading to accusations of Israeli war crimes.
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon called for investigations and prosecutions during his tour of Gaza:
Standing in front of the UN compound during a visit to the shattered Palestinian territory, a visibly angry Mr Ban said that he was "heartbroken" by the devastation he witnessed and appalled by the Israeli attack on the UN facility.
"It is an outrageous and totally unacceptable attack on the United Nations," Mr Ban said, the warehouse still smouldering behind him.
"There must be a full investigation, a full explanation to make sure it never happens again. There should be accountability through a proper judiciary system."I have protested many times. I am today protesting again in the strongest terms. I have asked [for a] full investigation and [to] make those responsible people accountable.”
AFP reports that "300 human rights groups" are "planning to submit a 37 page dossier" to the International Criminal Court on Wednesday.
International lawyers and jurists met Saturday in Geneva to finalise details of the dossier, which documents several violations against international human rights committed by the Israeli army during the Gaza offensive…
Even though Israel is not a state member, the group of jurists said the ICC could still prosecute individuals in the country.
… Venezuela and Bolivia are also interested in going to the ICC. As state members of the ICC, these countries can go one step further … by putting forward the charge against the Israeli authorities… Bolivia is preparing a request seeking to have Israel prosecuted by the ICC, two ministers said Friday in Geneva. The South American state says it wants to muster support among regional peers for a bid to have "the Israeli political and military leaders responsible for the offensive on the Gaza Strip" brought before justice, said Sacha Llorenti, whose portfolio covers civil society.
Amnesty International reported Monday on the findings of a four-person fact-finding team who have just been allowed to Gaza. The team included a weapons expert who said:
"Yesterday, we saw streets and alleyways littered with evidence of the use of white phosphorus, including still burning wedges and the remnants of the shells and canisters fired by the Israeli army…White phosphorus is a weapon intended to provide a smokescreen for troop movements on the battlefield. It is highly incendiary, air burst and its spread effect is such that it that should never be used on civilian areas".
And their conclusion is that the Israeli use in Gaza “is a war crime:”
"Such extensive use of this weapon in Gaza’s densely populated residential neighbourhoods is inherently indiscriminate. Its repeated use in this manner, despite evidence of its indiscriminate effects and its toll on civilians, is a war crime," said Donatella Rovera, Amnesty’s researcher on Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories.
They reported that:
Among the places worst affected by the use of white phosphorus was the UNRWA compound in Gaza City, where Israeli forces fired three white phosphorus shells on 15 January. The white phosphorus landed next to some fuel trucks and caused a large fire which destroyed tons of humanitarian aid. Prior to this strike the compound had already been hit an hour earlier and the Israeli authorities had been informed by UNRWA officials and had given assurance that no further strikes would be launched on the compound.
In another incident on the same day a white phosphorus shell landed in the al-Quds hospital in Gaza City also causing a fire which forced hospital staff to evacuate the patients.
Amnesty’s team is blogging their experiences and you can read their reports here.



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Israel will have to answer for war crimes. Hopefully the days of complete coverage from the U.S. in the United Nations is past.
It would be wonderful to see some follow through on this. I am not sure there will be though.
This is the job, Secretary of State Clinton. Are you ready? Will the US abstain from a UN motion?
Thank you Siun, for looking at this abomination squarely. I do not envy you the task.
OT: I understand, Siun, that the Palestinians were tuned in to the inauguration today, especially the children.
They are looking for hope, just as are we.
Outstanding, Siun. Outstanding. Thank you.
They did what they were assured that they could get away with…using weapons sold to them by those who assured them they could get away with using them (since they used them in Iraq. This is not by accident. They got away with the destruction upon Lebanon, and now they took their arrogance and, with impunity, attacked a foe without the ability to fight back. You play, you pay. Sad for all citizens of Palestine and Israel….Their governments…NOT.
Yes, newt, it will be interesting to see what Obama and Clinton will do in response to what has happened. Do we support the U.N. or not? That is one among a number of critical questions to which we NEED answers, and soon.
And Siun, words fail to convey, with any adequacy, the profound thanks owed you for courageously, and consistently, pricking the conscience of the world.
DW
Thank you, Siun, for continuing to keep us updated on the Gaza massacre. Israel’s indiscriminate bombing of hospitals, schools, ambulances, and the UN facilities will prove their biggest mistake. I hope the human rights organizations pursue this matter relentlessly, as UN Secretary General should.
There are many Israelis who abhor what the officials of their government have done in Gaza, much as there were many Americans who abhorred the actions of the Bush/Cheney regime.
i hope the three hundred human rights groups’ report will provoke a bit of self reflection from israelis
*snort*
“There must be a full investigation, a full explanation to make sure it never happens again. There should be accountability through a proper judiciary system.
I hope they have enough sense to realize that “a proper judiciary system” disqualifies the federal courts of the US of A.
I agree. It’s time for Israel to start taking some responsibility in this mess.
Awwwww, that warms my heart. ;-) There were lots of little kids along the route today who were jumping up and down at their parent’s feet when President Obama drove by or got out to wave to everyone.
it’s hard when you’ve been taught a pack of lies your whole life. i know because i’m an american.
“… disqualifies the federal courts of the US of A.”
For the moment yes. jayt, but that had better ‘change’, as they say, “Pronto!!!”
OT – a little tidbit from Cornyn on objecting to including Sen Clinton in a unanimous consent vote.
Cornyn talking about transparency and ethics. Now that’s rich.
When confirmed tomorrow SoS Clinton has got her work cut out for her. I can’t wait to see what she does about the war crime allegations.
Thank you Siun.
ICC – yes. Maybe the neocons will regret their preventing the US from joining the ICC.
The UN need to open up the 1948 partition plan, and explain how that was equitable.
And finally, on Auntie Beeb, China has presented its bill for baling out the US — No more arms for Taiwan.
Siun, are any supplies getting through or do we know that yet?
I think all the children of the world were watching and listening today.
And hoping, Kay.
The rest of the world awaits our recovery (after lo these many years) of some semblence of ’sanity’ …
Forgot the source. The Caucus, NYT blog
If I was singled out because of my heritage..locked up, tortured, starved, raped, and millions like me…including all of my relatives were killed viciously…gassed and thrown into pits….and lamps and soap were made from their flesh and whatever fat was left, and all of our possessions sold…the gold removed from the teeth of the corpses…I guarantee you, I would kill anyone who threatened those surviving and those who are descendants of my family…in a flash.
That is who Israel is.
Just sayin’.
I have to say. I’m with the kids on this one. I too want some hope! And I felt it today…along with the kids. ;-)
I too hope for huge changes in the federal judicial system. But,
1. Many lifetime appointments to suffer through, and
2. It’s *Israel*, fer chrissakes. If any American court, judge or politician even manages to muster a sentence or two of mild reproval, it would be amazing.
This case must be heard elsewhere.
Off topic:
Michelle Obama is wearing a gorgeous dress! (yes, I know it doesn’t matter but like I said on an earlier thread….Michelle Obama makes me interested in what she’s wearing. Don’t ask me why either! Damn her! LOL)
Expecting a lot of retirements from the federal bench, are ya? Shrub really loaded ‘em up with neocon fellow travelers.
Well…where do we see it?
msnbc
Soooo, define gorgeous. Do we get a description, or what? *g*
MSNBC and the local ABC station is showingit.
It is beautiful
Owe ya a beverage.
These two Lefty South American Countries also kicked out their Israeli ambassadors over this. What are the Moderate Arab countries doing?
I’m guessing that their leaders doing nothing is not going to sit well with their people.
Standing with Bush on the Israeli invasion could destabilize all our moderate friends in the area.
Bush’s last gift another Middle East war?
Even if you did unto others what others had done unto you, to the immense disgust of the rest of the world?
Augurs poorly for the idea of the human capacity to ‘learn’, LS.
Especially, when we are speaking about one of the most important ‘lessons’.
Okay see you good folks later
Owe you a beverage, as well. Damn, I’m 0 fer 2.
And, the first dance is to “At Last”. Great song, and very fitting. Oooooh, he twirled her and the crowd goes wild. If I had any tears left, I’d be crying again.
Namaste. Nice hangin’ with you today.
on a night like this, I’d love a *real* beverage.
Or ten.
*However*, stickin’ to pepsi please….
heh.
Enjoy your friends.
Elsewhere.
I agree.
Where would you suggest, jayt.
Spain or France.
Comin’ right up. Glad ya didn’t say Coke cuz they’re on forever boycott at my place.
What about civil lawsuits? The Catholic Church got sued for pedophile priests.
What about suing Jewish Churches that raise money for Israel? We have more Muslims in the country than Jews I’m sure some are Palestinians who can act as plaintiffs.
Apparently, the video of them dancing was only allowed to be shown for a few seconds on MSNBC & CNN. I know this because I first saw it on CNN and they stated they could only show a few seconds of it. I switched to MSNBC and the same thing happened. Maybe 30 seconds of their dance was shown? No more than that. Who the hell is regulating all of this! Gees. It’s the American People’s Inauguration for crying out loud! LOL
good question.
Honestly, I don’t know.
England still has a fully functional judicial system, but the ties to us may be too strong.
heh – my international practice has been largely dormant lately…..
It was a pale yellow long evening gown, off one shoulder, and was fuzzy (couldn’t make out the fabric…in fact, I don’t know fabrics LOL). Against her skin, she looked radiant. ;-)
Until I see Obama say it’s not so I’m thinking things are going to go along just the way they have so far. Obama doesn’t have the stones to Change much. The only hope I have for the Palestinians is that the United States goes belly up. Not that that isn’t going to happen. I’m afraid for them that it will happen in a time frame that isn’t going to help them really. Three hundred chumps against the merchants of death? I can hate Israel all I want but O is going to either going to have a huge check made out for Israel by himself or the Traitors in Congress will for him. Republican Democrat it don’t make a difference Israel always gets the grease. For congress is owned by the Zionists and nobody stands up to the Zionists. The biggest problem is that Zionists aren’t even necessarily Jewish, in fact the kind of Zionist you’ve really got to worry about is the Right Wing Death Christians you know the type the Rapture is coming Red Heifer breeding scumbags that think the end of the world can’t come soon enough. So I guess what I’m saying is until you go after the Endtimer Nutbags you’re not getting anywhere with the whole Israel Problem. There seems to be a Cult running our foreign policy that is vulnerable on it’s face but will have to be confronted if anything is going to change. Israel First = Traitor pass it on.
No. Because the Palestinians were not the perpetrators of what I described.
But, the psychology has gone off its rocker… The Israelis are attacking “anyone” who they perceive as an aggressor…”as if”….
They are like killer bees…one perceives a threat and the hive completely overreacts and kills the threat….
That is the problem.
They have to get a grip and stop.
Been a wunnerful day, pups. I gotta eat and get away from this machine. My eyes are beginning to complain.
Be good to yourselves, and all other living things.
Namaste
Everything hinges on a UN veto but has Hilary at State, or Obama’s ambassador to the UN been approved yet?
If nobody is there to issue a veto then the GOP would get the blame if another UN vote to investigate were scheduled.
Oh, and don’t feed the trolls.
Ah, the ‘legacy’.
I think we should encourage ‘them’ to seek the best ‘return’ for their genius possible, therefore the private sector, where their ‘efforts’ would more handsomely be rewarded.
‘Tis a conundrum, SD, fer shore.
But today’s ‘hope’ is inconsistent with a judiciary which is philosophically only slightly to the right of Temujinn.
Yes, Sir! Be good to yourself as well.
Nite nite, SD. ;-)
Namaste, SD.
Nite SD:)
Siun ,thanks for keeping us informed on the situation in Gaza.
You sure won’t see this stuff on the MSM,their too busy acting as cheerleaders for the Israelis !
Later SD !
I so second that Siun. Thank you. There is no “time off” from what is happening elsewhere. I commend you, and I comment Guerilla Guides!!!
how is that much different than us? how many countries have we bombed? i’m not saying it’s ok, just that it’s hard to break from that path.
Actually I thought you were talking about the Israelis, LS, who had, as you said, personal or family experience at the hands of the Nazi regime.
But seem NOT to have learned. Or, perhaps, remembered?
And so it begins !
I wonder what’s in store for us now that a new President has taken over?
Will he be as good a leader as he is a speaker?
Can he get the job done,will congress work with him?
He’s made a lot of promises,and has a pretty bold agenda
I hope he can live up to all his promises, the country ,the world will be a much better place!
We are worse. We sell the bombs and poisons to kill others..for profit. We are much worse in that way. That is what follows from my comments. We sell this crappola…isn’t that bad enough??? Even worse, we sell it to people, we know are wounded emotionally and even in one’s wildest imagination…are incapable of handling it. It is like selling guns to people with serious mental incapacities. It is irresponsible and wrong from that aspect….Even worse..it is irresponsible to produce and sell this stuff to anyone in the world. Period.
Evening, billy;
The world was full of hope today.
Let it not be squandered or frittered away …
Nor ’sold off’ to the highest ‘bidder’.
With you one hundred percent, LS.
DW
Yes, I was.
i have no argument.
About the only thing that’d make me happy right now is announcement of a full-blown Marshall Plan for Gaza. Now that we presumably again have a competent and moral government, how about a no-holds-barred program to make Gaza fit for human habitation?
Why not try eliminating people’s reasons to fire rockets into Israel for a change, instead of amplifying them?
Couple that with a few choice elements of our navy stationed off the coast in case Israel tries to interfere. (No, I haven’t forgotten their preemptive attack on us in ‘67 when they thought we might interfere with them.)
A program like that is both within our capabilities (again: competent government), emphatically in our national interest, and consistent with our deepest values as a people. That would be Change worth cheering.
Not that it’ll happen…
I agree.
If I took people into my home or country and instead of gratitude I got betrayed, used, had my money stolen by them for the purpose of criminal acts,stealing land and genociding people, if they stole my identity and trashed my name and reputation…and if all they had to say in their defense was “well, someone did to us first”….then I would hunt them down and bring them to justice or blow them to hell…their choice.
just saying….
It is comments such as yours which cause me to ‘hope’, however audaciously, that Obama has someone who checks out this site, Mukei.
Eli is upstairs, pups!
Why Does Rush Limbaugh Hate America?
Ok where is the prosecution of Bush?
Now that he is out of power, they have nothing more to fear from him.
How long do you think it will take?
Stop recycling the soap and lampshade propaganda. Research..learn..just saying..
Heard today the Saudis are contributing one billion in aid to Gaza.
WASHINGTON – One of President Barack Obama’s first acts is to order federal agencies to halt all pending regulations until his administration can review them.
The order went out Tuesday afternoon, shortly after Obama was inaugurated president, in a memorandum signed by new White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..ulations_1
And if he does..here are some photos of actual chemical burns on Gaza victims..GRAPHIC. Photos of Al-Quds hospital..the surrounding buildings are untouched, so it was a deliberate strike.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/i…..209638852/
War Crimes?
War Crimes?
Or are these okay because it’s not Israelis doing it?
standbyus has removed the public feedback button..now only pro Israel comments are shown. The truth hurt, I guess.
http://standwithuscampus.com/?p=288
They seem to have no interest in doing anything but acting out the pathology over and over again.
Completely not the point, as you are well aware.
I remember a lot of shock and outrage when there was a story that Israel was keeping out the UNRWA trucks.. but now that Hamas is doing it, nothing but silence. Not a word on Hamas running amok and kneecapping Palestinians either. It’s enough to make me think that people aren’t interested in the plight of the Palestinian people so much, and maybe they just use them as a convenient club with which to beat Jews.
Helicopter gunships, WP, tanks, missiles used among a civilian population, a blockade of supplies to people under fire…
If you are going to draw equivalents, bring links and a scale.
And if you are trying to draw fire, no dice.
We all believe the story told by the anonymous official…yup..uh..huh..The whole world is condemning Israel for its war crimes..what is it about that you don’t comprehend? Israel is occupying land that belongs to Palestinine. Enact the UN Resolution 242. It makes ever so much sense that starving people would block food aid. Kenosha Kenosha..do you not have anything better to do?
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It calls for “the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles: (i) Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict”, “(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency” and respect for the right of every state in the area to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U…..lution_242
‘Hamas torturing Fatah members in Gaza’
Gunmen fire at IDF troops in 2 incident
Even without the helicopter gunships and tanks, Hamas is on a track to surpass the IDF.
Israel withdrew from the Sinai in 1979. Jordan gave up it’s claim to the West Bank in 1994. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005. And again, today. So are we only arguing about the Golan Heights?
First step: acknowledging that the partition plan never passed. The Security Council refused to pass it.
First step: acknowledging that (a) the Partition Plan passed, (b) it would have created a new Palestinian state in 1948, and (c) the other Arab countries (especially Jordan), by invading Israel and ultimately seizing and annexing the lion’s share of the territory meant for the Palestinian state (and holding it for 19 years, then claiming ownership even after Israel won it from them in 1967), are responsible for that state never having been established. {ProfJonathan}
(A) The partition plan failed. The General Assembly has no legal power. The Security Council, which does, refused to pass it. (B) The resolution failed because it was a bad idea to create a Jewish colony on land belonging to and populated mostly by non-Jews. (C) Arab armies attacked in defense of the local population when the Zionists, after illegally massacring and causing to flee hundreds of thousands of non-Jewish Palestinians, illegally declared themselves a Jewish state, and then proceeded to ethnically cleanse hundreds of thousands more non-Jewish people. The Arab armies, pathetic as they were, never entered any part of that territory which the Zionists claimed for their racist enterprise under the banner of the failed partition plan, though they ignored even the outlines of the proposed partition by seizing more land. Well, they would have taken all of Palestine but Ben-Gurion decided the timing wasn’t right, leaving future generations of Zionists the glorious task of cleansing and seizing the rest, which they have faithfully done. Ethnic cleansing, by the way, was not part of the partition plan. Recognition of the civil rights of all parties was.