From the ACLU blog:
Six days after the inauguration of President Obama, the U.S. is scheduled to begin the first trial of a child soldier accused of war crimes since World War II….
Here is some background to the trial set for January 26: Canadian citizen Omar Khadr was 15 years old when he was captured in Afghanistan in the midst of a firefight that seriously injured Khadr and resulted in the death of a U.S. solider. Khadr was sent to Guantánamo where he was been held for 7 years — one-third of his life. He was beaten, subject to painful stress position and even used as a “human mop” after he urinated on the floor during one interrogation. Under these conditions, the prosecution of Khadr raises grave concerns about the rule of law and underscores how unconstitutional the military commissions are. President Obama must end them as he has promised.
Doing so will spare ACLU client Mohammed Jawad from trial in an illegal system. Jawad was sent to Guantánamo after he was captured at about age 16 at the scene of a grenade attack in Afghanistan that injured two U.S. soldiers. Afghan authorities threatened Jawad with his death, and that of his family, if he didn’t confess to the attack. Based on the resulting false “confession” Jawad was transferred to U.S. custody, where he was further abused, and then to Guantánamo. Among other forms of cruel treatment he suffered at Guantánamo, Jawad was subjected to the so-called “frequent flyer” program, where he was moved every few hours — 112 times over two weeks — to deny him sleep. His trial date under the military commissions has not been set because the Bush administration has appealed the military judge’s decision to suppress torture-derived “confessions”. The appeals court decision is pending.
Earlier this week, Dick Cheney was interviewed by Jim Lehrer for PBS’ NewsHour:
…As we dig in and look at hundreds of cases, we may well find a few people who were not properly treated. You know, I ran the Pentagon. I know that you can’t absolutely guarantee, at all times, that everybody’s doing it the way they’re supposed to be doing it.
I can tell you what the policy was; I can tell you that we had all the legal authorization to do it, including the sign-off of the Justice Department….
Dick’s got no regrets. (YouTube)
How about the rest of us? Are we truly safer because of this conduct — or less safe?
I’d certainly like answers on how we are going to conduct ourselves going forward in terms of respecting the rule of law as a matter of official governmental policy.
Because, quite honestly, I’m not buying the "blame the lawyers, not me" method of passing the buck. Not. One. Bit. The lawyers bear their own share of the blame for knuckling under to conformity over constitution, but the onus lands squarely on Dick and George.
Froomkin has much more.
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Christy,
Although there are plenty of lawyers who have contributed far too much to the problems created in the last 8 years, I do think that the bulk of the blame has to go towards two non-lawyers – George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
After all, they were at the top and as they seem to forget when they quote Harry Truman, “The buck stops there”
Cheney flappin his jaws and most americans say “What’s that sound?” “Aw just Cheney lyin again- don’t pay any attention to it”.
the people responsible for these atrocities must be prosecuted if we are ever to wash this blood off of our collective hands.
thanks christy for not letting go of this one. just one question though, are you sure all the kids we’ve detained were actually soldiers? for example, hugh just added this bit to item #10 on his list:
Lest we forget. Thank you Christy!
To the Hague with the whole buch of them! “We have the legal Authority”. I don’t think just because you get some two bit hack of Lawyers to say it is OK that it is! Some Lawyer can’t just change the Laws just to suite his client!!
There is this from my scandals list:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..02511.html
LOL.
ignore me, hugh’s here.
You type faster than I do. I owe you a coke.
And re Jawad:
my typing speed is enhanced by laziness – no shift key and no proofreading. and one of the benefits of hosting your list is i get to read your updates as you make them. *g*
Dugg thanks to OliverWolcott!
OT..
Prime Minster Ehud Olmert on Saturday night announced that Israel’s government has voted in favor of a unilateral cease-fire in the Gaza Strip, which will come into effect at 2 A.M.
The announcement comes after three weeks of fighting in the coastal strip, as Israel launched a massive military offensive aimed at halting years of daily rocket fire on its southern communities. Palestinian sources say that more than 1,100 Gazans have been killed since the offensive began on December 27. Three Israeli civilians and 10 Israel Defense Forces have been killed during that period.
A strong hint of the cease-fire announcement came earlier Saturday, when Defense Minister Ehud Barak said that Israel was very close to meeting the objectives of its 22-day-old offensive in Gaza.
“After three weeks of Operation Cast Lead, we are very close to reaching the goals and securing them through diplomatic agreements,” Barak said during a visit to the south of the country, according to a statement from his office.
The decision means Israel has put an end to Operation Cast Lead without an agreement with Hamas, relying instead on the support of the United States and Egypt in battling arms smuggling into Gaza.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1056178.html
yes, but imo even more important is to make amends to the victims, some of whom we still have locked up. which reminds me, does anyone know what happened to KSM’s children?
What is so shocking about so many of these cases is that these people were detained for years under brutal conditions, and yet the US government knew from the outset, or certainly very early on, that they hadn’t done anything. And in the face of this, they not only continued to hold them but continued to torture them, for years.
That is standard BS. Olmert said much the same thing after the disaster in Lebanon. The Israelis go in, guns blazing, shoot up everything in sight, and when world pressure becomes to much, they declare Mission Accomplished, which I suppose is true if the point was to create massive destruction and many future enemies.
“Earlier this week, Dick Cheney was interviewed by Jim Lehrer for PBS’ NewsHour:
…As we dig in and look at hundreds of cases, we may well find a few people who were not properly treated. You know, I ran the Pentagon. I know that you can’t absolutely guarantee, at all times, that everybody’s doing it the way they’re supposed to be doing it.
I can tell you what the policy was; I can tell you that we had all the legal authorization to do it, including the sign-off of the Justice Department….
The Uniform Code of MIlitary Justice means when you take the oath and sign up for military duty you are resonsible for your conduct. Over looking violations is in itself a crime. Plenty of them looking over their shoulders.
Good afternoon, all.
Speaking of lawyers, if only as regards, George and Dick, I have just read earlofhuntingdon’s fine eulogy of Sir John Mortimer, barrister and creator of Rumpole of the Bailey.
Contrasting Mortimer with Addington and Yoo is an exercise in true perspective, and only adds to my appreciation for those attorneys and fine legal minds who gather here, to my great delight and educational advantage.
Hopefully this nation, and the people of the world, shall not have to rely on international law, alone, to begin the process of justice.
Without justice for wee Georgie and the big Dick, the law, in America, will be perceived as weak and easily knocked over, portending further and more dire catastrophe …
If the law does not apply, equally, to all, then it begets not merely respect, but, ultimately, distrust, suspician, and contributes to the utter breakdown, or collapse, of society.
‘Society’ is simply the way in which individual people treat others …
We know he is full of bullshit…he is a war monger. Right now, all I hope is that the bombing stops.
EOH’s eulogy is, of course, to be found at Oxdown.
Our American torturers are the slaveholders incarnate. We are still living with the hypocrisy of the genteel slaveholders life.
The UN should create hospitals for the tortured in safe nations worldwide. America should fund the operations.
From The Raw Story:
Bush-appointed U.S. attorneys refuse to leave Justice Dept.
Now this WILL be interesting… Obama has every right to just plain ass fire these *itches.
Oh, and meant to say “disrespect”, as in the Law begets …
Thanks, Christy!
Worse than this, perhaps, is what BushCo has done to the children of the people held in GITMO, Baghram, et al. There ought to be a full investigation of those incidents, as well. Unfortunately, I have only read allegations about what has taken place, but some of the allegations have come from credible (to me) sources.
Bob in HI
Book Salon a couple of flights upstairs Dave Zirin’s A People’s History of Sports in the United States
GUANTANAMO BAY, CUBA — Omar Khadr could not have possibly thrown the grenade that killed a U.S. soldier during a 2002 firefight because he was buried under the rubble of a collapsed roof, his lawyer argued in court Friday, pointing to photos from the firefight that show Mr. Khadr under so much debris that a U.S. soldier inadvertently stepped on him.
But Colonel Patrick Parrish, the judge in Mr. Khadr’s Guantanamo Bay military commissions hearing, banned Lieutenant-Commander Bill Kuebler from showing the photos in court, meaning the public did not get to see them.
“I don’t want things shown that may not be admitted [as evidence],” Col. Parrish told a clearly exasperated Cdr. Kuebler, who tried for several minutes to change the judge’s mind.
Asked afterward why the judge didn’t allow him to show the photos, Cdr. Kuebler told reporters: “Because they show he’s innocent.”
The U.S. government alleges Mr. Khadr threw a grenade during the fight that killed the soldier. A U.S. soldier present during the firefight previously testified that he saw Mr. Khadr sitting upright, facing away from him in such a position that he could have thrown the grenade over his shoulder. The soldier then shot Mr. Khadr twice in the back.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com…..ernational
Thanks bb.
Appalling. The ‘Law’ not only chooses to make a joke of itself, but, as in this case, an ass to boot.
DW
Anarchy or rule of law…that is the question…or is it Oligarchy?
Or does it merely auger a new and ‘improved’ Dark Age?
Time will tell …
I think he knows too much about what went on that day. A lot of rule bending has gone into charging him, and then appealing to recharge him. I would have to search, but I remember reading that he almost died from infection from being shot in the back because he wasn’t treated for his injuries right away.
Under the new 2006 Military Commissions Act, coerced testimony is allowed and no one subject to such trials “may invoke Geneva Conventions as a source of rights.”
In May 2007 Khadr fired his US military and civilian lawyers and asked to be represented by Canadian lawyers of his choice. However, the rules for the military commissions prevent foreign lawyers from being the lead attorneys in war crimes trials.
During a first arraignment before the Military Commission on 4 June 2007 a US military judge dismissed all charges against Khadr due to lack of jurisdiction to try Khadr.
The Judge ruled that Congress had created the military tribunals to try only so-called “unlawful” enemy combatants. The military panel that ruled on Khadr’s status designated him only as an “enemy combatant” in 2004. Only if Mr. Khadr were an “unlawful” combatant could his alleged acts be a war crime or murder.
Khadr will however not be released following this ruling. The Bush administration said he might be held as a prisoner until the end of hostilities in the so-called war on international terrorism.
On 29 June 2007 a US military judge declined to revive charges against Khadr.
On July 4 2007, Prosecutors filed an appeal in Khadr’s case with the Court of Military Commission Review.
On 24 September 2007 the US Court of Military Commission Review overruled the decision by the military judge and reinstated terrorism charges against Khadr.
The appeals court held that the distinction between ‘enemy combattant’ and ‘unlawful enemy combattant’ was purely semantic and that the military tribunal system still had the authority to try Khadr.
http://www.trial-ch.org/en/tri…..r_455.html
Canadians have been trying to force Harper to bring him home, but we all know that Harper does what Bush tells him to do.
In May 2008, the Supreme Court of Canada unanimously found that the conditions under which Omar was being detained “constituted a clear violation of fundamental human rights protected by international law,” and that Canada’s participation breached our own obligations under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Geneva Conventions.
Justice for Omar Khadr means ensuring his rights to a fair trial and to humane treatment. For six years, Omar has been denied that justice. Canada’s complicity in that denial betrays our values as Canadians, and implicates our country in gross violations of international law.
Enough is enough. It’s time for Canada to act. Repatriate Omar Khadr.
http://www.omarkhadrproject.com/
The actual manuals governing the treatment of men at Guantanamo are full of war crimes. Cheney and the rest of them can keep on lying on MSM, but the facts are there in black and white. I’d posted some at Oxdown earlier today; at danps/The Real Cost of Guantanamo. The first link does not show the page, but once you get to wikileaks..there are many links. The horror show is exposed for the whole world to read.
Is the level of political ‘consciousness’ (and conscience) in Canada such that you’ve some hope of success before another five or six years elapse?
Is Canadian ‘law’ suffering the same ‘constipation’ as its neighbor, the banana (or apple-pie) ‘republic’, to the south?
Have you any thoughts as to why Canada (and Austrailia, for that matter) have chosen to align themselves with the self-destructive Bu$h ideologies?
Beyond the cheap and easy appeal of neoconish-neoliberalism?
I had always thought folks in Canada had cooler heads, generally, than we, your Mr. Harper suggests that your Political Cla$$, at least, does not.
DW
Off to Oxdown, bb, thanks.
David
BBlue:
A wonderful explanation of BushCo Kabuki, cowboy law and what should be done. Thanx you made process clear meanwhile the punishment is ongoing without conviction. Will Obama deliver the goods?
thanks bluebutterfly … that’s an amazing summary of the legal dance macabre around Khadr.
the trouble in Canada is Harper who repeatedly only says: ”there is a legal process in the US and we must respect that legal process.” which is total fucking bullshit but the MCA gives him that cover which he choses to embrace.
Khadr is the only citizen of a western nation still in GitMo.
apparently the case is driven mainly by the anger and ”eye-witness testimony” of one soldier who lost and eye and a comrade in the battle where Khadr was captured. there is other evidence that contradicts this vendetta, accumulating as time goes on.
and the bottom line is it doesn’t matter what these boys have done, EVEN if they are guilty (and they are not), they are child soldiers and subject to treaties requiring compassionate treatment on those grounds alone, everything else not with standing.
instead they are being treated as if they are guilty adults. it’s obscene.
Senator (Retired CDN General) Romeo Dallaire (who led the abandoned UN peacekeeping forces in Rawanda during the genocide years ago) went down to Washington last week to speak with the Obama transition team about child soldiers and Khadr specifically. i sincerely hope he got a decent hearing. he is a hero who has suffered himself.
Harper is a neocon. Harper thinks that the US, Mexico, and Canada should become the North American Union. That fantasy utopia of corporations..’minimum wage slaves forever’ to be the motto of the working class. Same MSM problem up here as you have down there. The politicians are beholden to someone, somewhere, and the average citizen does not rank high on their priority list. Harper tries his games, but does get smacked down when he is caught. Our secret service recently got caught doing illegal wiretaps and got told to cease. We don’t appear to have as many bought off judges. I was rather pissed at one in BC where I live when he stopped a war crimes charge against Bush. The dumb f..k said that Bush had diplomatic immunity. Diplomatic immunity? So, we have some bought judges, for sure.
We have the internet users and the non internet users; same as you do. The average person has no idea of reality because they think they get the truth from MSM.
The fact that we have soldiers in Afghanistan is the source of rage with many of us. Those who don’t know, or care, that are soldiers are dying for a pipeline, are enraged that Harper has taken a surplus of billions and blown it on the war machine. We get rather annoyed up here when our government tries to take away programs that benefit us and use the money for war. Kind of have the idea that our tax money is to be spent on us..’g’.
We are part of SPP. Those of us who know about it, are less than pleased. Most people do not know about it because it is not discussed in the good old MSM. Canadians were shocked at the use of agent provocateurs in Montreal when Bush was there. When exposed, our courts usually put an end to government illegal games. Maher Arar is the best known example of that fact.
Harper bows to Israel and we do have a problem with AIPAC type groups trying to censor freedom of speech in regards to criticizing Israel. We take freedom of speech seriously in Canada. Most of us cannot tolerate Harper or his US inspired attempts at taking any freedom away. We are cool headed up here, but don’t like to be stepped on by our governments. Not at the local, provincial, or Federal level. We fight back; don’t always win, but we try.
Canada needs Harper to go. I can’t figure out why the hell the opposition parties can’t find someone with some charisma. Shit, with most of them we can’t understand what the heck they are saying. Someone with English as their first language would be a good step in the right direction. We so need a leader that will stand up to America. No sign of one on the horizon, yet. Our premier in BC just adores Bush..enough said.
Justice served would be Khadr and Harper trading places.
TORONTO — The U.S. military commission proceedings against Omar Khadr at its infamous Guantanamo Bay prison remained on life support Saturday after a military judge nixed a joint request by both defence and prosecution to delay hearings until incoming U.S. president Barack Obama takes office on Tuesday.
Colonel Patrick Parrish’s decision late Friday evening came despite the unusual joint plea to call off the military commission proceedings in the “interests of justice.”
Documents have revealed he was subject to severe abuse, such as sleep deprivation and being held in stress positions.
Another senior Pentagon official, Air Force Colonel Peter Masciola who is acting as the chief commission defence lawyer, called on Ms. Crawford to stop the proceedings and withdraw charges in the 14 cases facing the commission.
“The perception of pervasive torture now saddles the incoming administration and its efforts to set these proceedings on a just course,” Col. Masciola wrote on Friday.
“There is only one way to begin changing that perception, and also the reality, of fundamental injustice: Withdraw the referrals now.”
Lt.-Cmdr. Kuebler said that pressing ahead against Mr. Khadr on Monday with what he called a “failed” experiment made no sense.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com…..wkhadr0117
Thanks bb.
I appreciate the depth and breadth of your response, kindda figured as much.
Have you any notion as to the percentage of your fellow Canadians (iens?)
who share your perspectives?
This is the smoking gun…the push to convict Khadr appears to be because he witnessed a soldier killing a man. Shooting in cold blood at point blank range is an execution of a prisoner; not an act of defense. Khadr himself was shot in the back at point blank range. Khadr was not meant to live and become a witness to the crime of a US soldier.
Moazzam Begg recalls the suffering of Omar Khadr
22.7.08
Omar Khadr I don’t normally cross-post articles from other sites, but I was moved by this article, in which Moazzam Begg, author, former Guantánamo prisoner, and spokesman for the British human rights group Cageprisoners, recalls the time he spent with Omar Khadr in the US prison at Bagram airbase, Afghanistan, in 2002, when Omar, who was severely wounded, had just turned 16. The article first appeared on the Cageprisoners website.
I never really understood why, but our military police guards would always refer to Khadr as “Buckshot Bob” or simply “Buckshot.” His wounds didn’t seem to me as if they had been caused by the blast of a shotgun. They were much more horrific. Chunks of his chest and shoulder had been blown out — or so I’d assumed — and he was unable to see through one of his eyes because of the injuries he’d sustained, allegedly in a firefight with US troops. His chest looked like he’d just had a post mortem operation performed on him — whilst he was still alive.
He was emaciated, fragile and quiet. But the rumour spread around about Khadr claiming that he’d launched a grenade attack on unsuspecting US forces. Consequently, the military police units guarding us all treated Omar Khadr with open contempt and hostility. He was sometimes screamed at all night long; made to stack up crates of water bottles which were thrown down again; a hood placed over his head whilst his wrists were shackled to the ceiling.
But, three years after my release from Guantánamo, and five since I last saw Khadr, I have come to realise the logic behind the name “Buckshot.” Photographs released by the US military this year show Khadr when he was first captured. The missing chunks of flesh were exit wounds from shotgun rounds fired. It is now clear, based on statements by the soldiers who captured him, that Khadr had been shot in the back — at point-blank range.
Khadr and I shared a communal cell where walking, talking, standing or simply looking in the wrong direction would earn us a few hours with our hands chained above our heads to the cage door and a hood placed over our faces. Still, I managed some whispered conversations with Khadr, who, just like me, had begun to comprehend that his ordeal had only just started.
Omar’s treatment varied according to the perception various soldiers and interrogators had of him: most of it bad. But a handful of them, who actually got to know him and speak to him like a human being, told me how bad they felt about having a child like him in custody. I recall the last words Omar Khadr said to me before he was shipped off to Guantánamo: “You’re fortunate, people here care about you. No one cares about me.”
Omar was later accused of causing the death of a US Special Forces operative with a grenade. Yet a report given by the soldier who shot him says that not only was Mr. Khadr alive there, an adult man was also alive at the time he, the US soldier, rushed in shooting. This contradicts the testimony of another solider who said that only Mr. Khadr was alive at the time. Whatever the case may be, Omar is fast approaching the seventh year of his detention in Guantánamo. He is now twenty-one.
http://www.andyworthington.co……mar-khadr/
Hard to answer that with any degree of accuracy. I live in a city of around 65,000 and I swear that, judging by letters to our local newspapers that 59,000 aren’t too bright! One of our papers had a glowing letter to the editor recently as to how wonderful Israel is…arggg. On the plus side, those who know what is wrong in our country are determined and vocal. I say that from reading websites of organizations across Canada. Our biggest problem in the West is in our Canadian voting system. The big money boys and girls are centered back East. So, at election time, we don’t have enough of a population base to sway the Federal Elections. For many years people just did not vote on mass because it did no good. In recent years, that has changed considerably. The job situation has changed the numbers of people who live in BC and Alberta. The western provinces are becoming somewhat militant about the need for more equal representation from Ottawa and that is reflected in the amount of increased voters.
Again, bb, my thanks for taking the time to enlighten me regarding reality in the north lands.
I remember, years ago, a friend of mine, from BC (a superb violinist by the way, who once borrowed my hot-rodded Supro amp to play with Mick Jagger, one night) told me that the “provinces” felt very much under-represented …
DW
You are welcome…yes, definitely so..Ottawa wants our taxes and then we are to quietly go away..Didn’t you get to go with the amp?..’g’..