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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/schip-needs-your-voice-before-upcoming-vote/#comment-1791590</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks so much for the update — he’s going on my list of people to keep an eye on as of this note.  Really appreciate it!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for the update — he’s going on my list of people to keep an eye on as of this note.  Really appreciate it!</p>
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		<title>By: Votus</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/schip-needs-your-voice-before-upcoming-vote/#comment-1791431</link>
		<dc:creator>Votus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very late to the party, but I did call my Rep. (Baird–WA 03–Bush Dog) and left a message that he support SCHIP.  When asked if he’s taken a position on this yet, his office assistant said he had not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This rat bastard was at a town hall meeting here in town over the weekend.  Mr. Votus asked him why he would not co-sponsor HR 676, healthcare for all, and he said that health care was an entitlement, not a right.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He sucks to the far corners of the earth, and I will support a good progressive to mop up the floor with him in 2010.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very late to the party, but I did call my Rep. (Baird–WA 03–Bush Dog) and left a message that he support SCHIP.  When asked if he’s taken a position on this yet, his office assistant said he had not.</p>
<p>This rat bastard was at a town hall meeting here in town over the weekend.  Mr. Votus asked him why he would not co-sponsor HR 676, healthcare for all, and he said that health care was an entitlement, not a right.  </p>
<p>He sucks to the far corners of the earth, and I will support a good progressive to mop up the floor with him in 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: BargainCountertenor</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/schip-needs-your-voice-before-upcoming-vote/#comment-1791297</link>
		<dc:creator>BargainCountertenor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Preventive health measures are in the moneyed class’s best interest.  Immunizing (practically) everyone creates herd immunity effects that slow the rates of disease transmission.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have an effective vaccine against measles (also covers mumps and rubella, a/k/a German Measles).  Measles proper is an incredibly contagious virus, back in the days before the vaccine it would spread through schools like wildfire.  The only kids who missed out were those who’d already had the disease.  We still see occasional measles outbreaks, but now they’ve moved to our colleges and universities.  Because the incidence is so much lower, we are not exposed to the virus annually and our immune system forgets that it needs to look for that thing.  Colleges were lax in enforcing immunization requirements, and we had some measles epidemics as a result.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why are preventive health measures in the monied class’s interest?  Because these diseases that inconvenience a child can kill or maim an adult.  Think polio.  Think measles encephalitis.  All of the bad sequelae are much more common in adults than children.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think sanitation.  There are no vaccines against cholera, there is one against typhoid.  But you don’t want to be drinking water with &lt;em&gt;S. typhii&lt;/em&gt; in it, even if you’re vaccinated.  These are both diseases that were commonplace in the 19th century, essentially eradicated in the US, Canada and Europe.  Why?  Sanitation facilities.  Keep clean water and dirty water separate. Treat dirty water before you dump it in the river/ocean/lake.  Treat clean water before you put it in the pipes.  None of it is cheap, but it does prevent disease.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s not just the morally correct thing to do, &lt;em&gt;it’s in their own interest&lt;/em&gt; to do it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preventive health measures are in the moneyed class’s best interest.  Immunizing (practically) everyone creates herd immunity effects that slow the rates of disease transmission.</p>
<p>We have an effective vaccine against measles (also covers mumps and rubella, a/k/a German Measles).  Measles proper is an incredibly contagious virus, back in the days before the vaccine it would spread through schools like wildfire.  The only kids who missed out were those who’d already had the disease.  We still see occasional measles outbreaks, but now they’ve moved to our colleges and universities.  Because the incidence is so much lower, we are not exposed to the virus annually and our immune system forgets that it needs to look for that thing.  Colleges were lax in enforcing immunization requirements, and we had some measles epidemics as a result.</p>
<p>Why are preventive health measures in the monied class’s interest?  Because these diseases that inconvenience a child can kill or maim an adult.  Think polio.  Think measles encephalitis.  All of the bad sequelae are much more common in adults than children.</p>
<p>Think sanitation.  There are no vaccines against cholera, there is one against typhoid.  But you don’t want to be drinking water with <em>S. typhii</em> in it, even if you’re vaccinated.  These are both diseases that were commonplace in the 19th century, essentially eradicated in the US, Canada and Europe.  Why?  Sanitation facilities.  Keep clean water and dirty water separate. Treat dirty water before you dump it in the river/ocean/lake.  Treat clean water before you put it in the pipes.  None of it is cheap, but it does prevent disease.</p>
<p>It’s not just the morally correct thing to do, <em>it’s in their own interest</em> to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Beerfart Liberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/schip-needs-your-voice-before-upcoming-vote/#comment-1791282</link>
		<dc:creator>Beerfart Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank god we got rid of our bonehead rep, Feeney, who used this bill to conjure up pictures of hordes of illegal brown people streaming into &lt;em&gt;OUR &lt;/em&gt;country to get free health benefits at &lt;em&gt;our&lt;/em&gt; expense.  Jerk.  And more importantly, loser.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god we got rid of our bonehead rep, Feeney, who used this bill to conjure up pictures of hordes of illegal brown people streaming into <em>OUR </em>country to get free health benefits at <em>our</em> expense.  Jerk.  And more importantly, loser.</p>
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		<title>By: Beerfart Liberal</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/schip-needs-your-voice-before-upcoming-vote/#comment-1791279</link>
		<dc:creator>Beerfart Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This one pissed me off even more than FISA last year.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one pissed me off even more than FISA last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Prairie Sunshine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/schip-needs-your-voice-before-upcoming-vote/#comment-1791241</link>
		<dc:creator>Prairie Sunshine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I look forward to the day when the words “fold” or “cave” are never again used in the same sentence with “Democrats.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to the day when the words “fold” or “cave” are never again used in the same sentence with “Democrats.”</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/schip-needs-your-voice-before-upcoming-vote/#comment-1791240</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;sounds like she has fans on the committee. but i would have like to ask some questions (under oath) on kosovo, iraq, indonesia, imf and the global south, etc….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;might switch over to one of the other hearings today. it’s hearingpalloza day.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sounds like she has fans on the committee. but i would have like to ask some questions (under oath) on kosovo, iraq, indonesia, imf and the global south, etc….</p>
<p>might switch over to one of the other hearings today. it’s hearingpalloza day.</p>
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		<title>By: Christy Hardin Smith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/schip-needs-your-voice-before-upcoming-vote/#comment-1791229</link>
		<dc:creator>Christy Hardin Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Same here — that’s the only questions I’ve heard about, and I hadn’t heard about any formalized effort to dig into that outside a few media and blog outlets.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same here — that’s the only questions I’ve heard about, and I hadn’t heard about any formalized effort to dig into that outside a few media and blog outlets.</p>
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		<title>By: katymine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/schip-needs-your-voice-before-upcoming-vote/#comment-1791228</link>
		<dc:creator>katymine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My father was a Wildlife Biologist, worked for and retired from the US Forest Service. When you are managing wildlife and forests there has to be planning not just for the next year but 5, 10, 20, and yes 100 years.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When you plan for the people of America, it should include the 20, 50 and 100 year plans.  How do you cut down crime and the prison population? You work on the 20 year plan for early education where the focus is to keep the kid in school….. 50 year plans work on the life and worklife to retirement of your population and the 100 year plan deals with the birth to grave quality of life.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our European neighbors have gotten that with all the benefits that are provided to their citizens.  I would like to see America to move to a Social Democracy where we create a strong solid foundation for everyone so that all can fly and do what they desire in life.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My father was a Wildlife Biologist, worked for and retired from the US Forest Service. When you are managing wildlife and forests there has to be planning not just for the next year but 5, 10, 20, and yes 100 years.  </p>
<p>When you plan for the people of America, it should include the 20, 50 and 100 year plans.  How do you cut down crime and the prison population? You work on the 20 year plan for early education where the focus is to keep the kid in school….. 50 year plans work on the life and worklife to retirement of your population and the 100 year plan deals with the birth to grave quality of life.  </p>
<p>Our European neighbors have gotten that with all the benefits that are provided to their citizens.  I would like to see America to move to a Social Democracy where we create a strong solid foundation for everyone so that all can fly and do what they desire in life.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2009/01/13/schip-needs-your-voice-before-upcoming-vote/#comment-1791224</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I haven’t heard about much of any opposition for Hillary Clinton, frankly. So this may not be too contentious a hearing today. Or for Susan Rice, for that matter. There have been some GOP comments here and there, but nothing that’s reached a substantive debate level that I’ve seen or heard. Anyone know differently on either? Let me know…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;only issue i’ve heard is the funding issue for bill clinton’s foundation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i don’t expect any contentious foreign policy questions though because there aren’t any progressives in the senate to ask them. :(&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I haven’t heard about much of any opposition for Hillary Clinton, frankly. So this may not be too contentious a hearing today. Or for Susan Rice, for that matter. There have been some GOP comments here and there, but nothing that’s reached a substantive debate level that I’ve seen or heard. Anyone know differently on either? Let me know…</p>
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<p>only issue i’ve heard is the funding issue for bill clinton’s foundation.</p>
<p>i don’t expect any contentious foreign policy questions though because there aren’t any progressives in the senate to ask them. :(</p>
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